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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST3| Speculate Chronicles 3

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Aether said:
Another SMT/Persona like, now that Persona has gone Multi Plat, and SMT reached Personal Graphics?
Yeah...no. No benefit except it being bound to nintendo (because of the FE IP) and costing simular amounts as SMT/Persona for a more limited audience and merch potential (since they would need to give money to nintendo on that merch)

What i can see: nintendo specific DLC in future SMT/Persona games...
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SMT (since IV) is already Nintendo-only anyways and it sells a lot. Not everything is supposed to sell like P5.
I don't think it costed near as much as Shin Megami Tensei V either. I think the series has potential to grow and become a good selling if they rely more on its crossover nature. It's also unique/its own thing separate from Persona/SMT.
On SMT/Persona having Nintendo specific DLC, I really really hope you're right!! I wish I could do something like summon Nahobino in P5R or Chrom from TMS.
 
Comic Obsessed said:
TMS had the best battle system of any Atlus game so yeah, a sequel would be appreciated.
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I still havent finished it. i loved the battle system, i had my gripes with other aspects of the game... so much pottential for SMT6 i would say.
Blue Monty said:
Nintendo funding is a big advantadge you are ignoring for some reason, Atlus doesnt have to care that much about making money with the title if Nintendo pays for it.
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Nope. I thought about that, but even with nintendo funding, there is a limit how much they can sell, compared to a multiplat release, and how much they earn on persona merch.

And before you say "do both"... they dont have limitless resources. with SMT moving from Handheld like graphics (SMT4) to way more involved. And seing how many developers struggled to up their teamsized without geting to expensive for their own good, i asume they wont force growth just for a niche title (and with the sales of the first one...yeah...)

(My opinion on the first one: the idol theme was to much for me. all i heard sounded good, but a JRPG where i dont like the story or the presentation (color palet, idol theming) was just not my jam. so call me biased if you will, but it really did not light the sales charts on fire.

Marce-chan said:
SMT (since IV) is already Nintendo-only anyways and it sells a lot. Not everything is supposed to sell like P5.
I don't think it costed near as much as Shin Megami Tensei V either. I think the series has potential to grow and become a good selling if they rely more on its crossover nature. It's also unique/its own thing separate from Persona/SMT.
On SMT/Persona having Nintendo specific DLC, I really really hope you're right!! I wish I could do something like summon Nahobino in P5R or Chrom from TMS.
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Im actually not a fan of those random inclusions of non canon characters in other properties, but to everybody their own. I also found the nintendo costume sin Bayonetta 2 really out of place. (but it wasnt forced to be used, so whatever)

In regards to SMT being nintendo... i would not count on that for to long. Seing how there where hints for a PC release of SMT5, i could see both series going multiplat, but htem starting first with the obviously more lucrative one.
 
Derachi said:
Last of the Nintendogs brought up Wind Waker HD/Twilight Princess HD in a way where it sounds like they’re locks for this year...

Sounds like they’re hard locks for the September 7th Direct
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I really really hope WW/TP HD don't release this year. I would love if they released in September or something but that ship has sailed. I really really won't like the months of "BotW 2 is 2024" if any of those released in December 😭😭😭😭.
 
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Wasn't the M64/Sunshine/Galaxy bundle announced very early September (2020) and then released around September 20th? Nintendo might do that again with WW/TP. They could release late September/early October, and still leave ~6 months between their release and BOTW2 release.
 
Weirdly, my big 2 games for the rest of the year are Nier and Pokemon...

this time last year i was shure it would be Silksong and BotW2...
 
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Aether said:
I still havent finished it. i loved the battle system, i had my gripes with other aspects of the game... so much pottential for SMT6 i would say.

Nope. I thought about that, but even with nintendo funding, there is a limit how much they can sell, compared to a multiplat release, and how much they earn on persona merch.

And before you say "do both"... they dont have limitless resources. with SMT moving from Handheld like graphics (SMT4) to way more involved. And seing how many developers struggled to up their teamsized without geting to expensive for their own good, i asume they wont force growth just for a niche title (and with the sales of the first one...yeah...)

(My opinion on the first one: the idol theme was to much for me. all i heard sounded good, but a JRPG where i dont like the story or the presentation (color palet, idol theming) was just not my jam. so call me biased if you will, but it really did not light the sales charts on fire.


Im actually not a fan of those random inclusions of non canon characters in other properties, but to everybody their own. I also found the nintendo costume sin Bayonetta 2 really out of place. (but it wasnt forced to be used, so whatever)

In regards to SMT being nintendo... i would not count on that for to long. Seing how there where hints for a PC release of SMT5, i could see both series going multiplat, but htem starting first with the obviously more lucrative one.
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Oh yeah, I just meant at the very least timed exclusive.
Contrary to Sony with Persona, we actually have Nintendo promoting the game and presumably funding a part of it.
Also, as pointed before, Nintendo would be funding anything TMS, which is already a win for Atlus.
Let's say, Soul Hackers 2 (which looks a lot like TMS): similar dev time/budget, and it's multiplat. Let's say it underperforms: Atlus doesn't profit/gets hit.
TMS on the other hand was funded by Nintendo, so if it sells, Atlus makes profit and isn't hit if it doesn't.
 
chocolate_supra said:
ZREO already did the work for them, hell.

Oh shit I just went to their YouTube page to link the album for anyone who may have not been aware and the whole album has been privated???? Goddammit, that was my favorite Zelda fan project.
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I recently collaborated with ZREO on my second Celtic album plug plug so know a little of what's going on. They restarted as ZREO: Second Quest last year after a long absence. Them privating their older stuff is because they want to release it legally in the future - the YouTube stuff existed in a legal grey area that they're not comfortable with anymore.
MisterSpo said:
Two Zelda titles in that timeframe deprives Nintendo of two Zelda titles to launch in the presumed 3 to 5 year gap before another new Zelda game comes along, and Nintendo treat Zelda as a prestige event. It's less of a prestige event if three of them come along in a 6 to 9 month period.
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My thoughts exactly. TP/WW are a great "rainy day fund" for an in-between year. I'm not sure if 2022 is genuinely an in-between year with BotW2 possibly being round the corner. But if TP or WW does appear next month, I'm gonna cry, because that'd suggest BotW2 being farther out in 2023.
 
Awesomegames23 said:
Wasn't the M64/Sunshine/Galaxy bundle announced very early September (2020) and then released around September 20th? Nintendo might do that again with WW/TP. They could release late September/early October, and still leave ~6 months between their release and BOTW2 release.
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I think that's the only case it would make sense, but it isn't 2020 and it's not a Super Mario anniversary for them to make things that crazy.

It sure could happen but i don't see it happening anymore. Of course, I would love to be wrong and them announcing the TP/WW ports while also dating BotW 2 for March.
 
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Marce-chan said:
Oh yeah, I just meant at the very least timed exclusive.
Contrary to Sony with Persona, we actually have Nintendo promoting the game and presumably funding a part of it.
Also, as pointed before, Nintendo would be funding anything TMS, which is already a win for Atlus.
Let's say, Soul Hackers 2 (which looks a lot like TMS): similar dev time/budget, and it's multiplat. Let's say it underperforms: Atlus doesn't profit/gets hit.
TMS on the other hand was funded by Nintendo, so if it sells, Atlus makes profit and isn't hit if it doesn't.
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I dont think nintendo paied much for the development. Probably more of a promotional help. Do we have infos that its more?
Yet still, with how split the JRPG base now is (PC became valid, nintendo came back strong and continued their Handheld JRPG legacy, Sony is still the Main AAA JRPG platform...) and how easy the porting is (using UE -> rund on every platform) im really not shure if a little support by nintendo is that much worth if they are not paying for the brunt of the development. And if so, then the game will stay Exclusive indefinitely.
Heck, look at Square. Octopath, Bravely Default... also came to Steam later.
And there nintendo for shure invested. So i dont know what the situation really is.
manfromthedam said:
My thoughts exactly. TP/WW are a great "rainy day fund" for an in-between year. I'm not sure if 2022 is genuinely an in-between year with BotW2 possibly being round the corner. But if TP or WW does appear next month, I'm gonna cry, because that'd suggest BotW2 being farther out in 2023.
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... I honestly dont even think that it would mean BotW is far out. I dont belive they will release them... but i could see it happening even if BotW comes this FY.They would be the Zelda game for This year, and BotW2 for next year. And i dont think they would reduce the BotW2 sales honestly...
 
As I'm already being bold by predicting a TMS sequel, I'm gonna get bold with other stuff too:
  • Monster Hunter Rise 2 comes in 2025 for Switch/Drake(yes, it's cross gen!!);
  • Luigi's Mansion 4 is also cross-gen and comes in either 2024 or 2025;
  • Switch timed exclusive Resident Evil is real and late 2023 or early 2024;
  • Animal Crossing New Horizons surprisingly gets back at receiving content and gets a new paid Expansion in 2023;
  • a new 2D Metroid will come as cross gen in either 2024 or 2025 - Prime 2/3 HD won't be as high effort as Prime 1 remake, think of the difference between Wind Waker HD/Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time HD and Twilight Princess HD and Skyward Sword HD. Those will come in either 2024/2025/2026 and will be cross gen too as they're remasters.
 
I still think September 7th simply because of p-p-p-patterns (week before tgs/It being the first full week of September) even though that week is getting super crowded. But I wouldn‘t say no to august 31th.
 
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I don't think they're doing a limited release for ww/tp like mario all star
That was pretty much something special that they do for the anniversary and zelda's important anniversary was last year. If they're releasing ww and tp they'll be here to stay.
Irene said:
Someone also made the point that maybe Nintendo considers Majora's Mask on NSO to suffice for this year's Zelda release. I wonder if that's the case.
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You know that might be it.
 
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Irene said:
Someone also made the point that maybe Nintendo considers Majora's Mask on NSO to suffice for this year's Zelda release. I wonder if that's the case.
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I dont think it is because they released last year SSHD and OoT, NSO seems to be it’s own thing for Nintendo schedule wise
 
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If September 1st Direct has 49 fans, I am one of them.
If September 1st Direct has 10 fans, I am one of them.
If September 1st Direct has 1 fan, I am the fan.
If September 1st Direct has no fans, that means I am no more on the Earth.
If the world is against the September 1st Direct, I am against the world.

edit: If Nate says that Direct is not happening on September 1st, I am still fan of September 1st.
 
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Derachi said:
You know what?

I abandon my post as champion of Team September 7.

@LukasManak22 I join you on Team September 1!
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LukasManak22 said:
This is how you do it! But we both know you got scared. Because my conviction is so big that gradually everyone will switch to our side. I am your leader now. And You are my followers.
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Let's all die on that hill together, Sept 1 FTW.
 
Marce-chan said:
As I'm already being bold by predicting a TMS sequel, I'm gonna get bold with other stuff too:
  • Monster Hunter Rise 2 comes in 2025 for Switch/Drake(yes, it's cross gen!!);
  • Luigi's Mansion 4 is also cross-gen and comes in either 2024 or 2025;
  • Switch timed exclusive Resident Evil is real and late 2023 or early 2024;
  • Animal Crossing New Horizons surprisingly gets back at receiving content and gets a new paid Expansion in 2023;
  • a new 2D Metroid will come as cross gen in either 2024 or 2025 - Prime 2/3 HD won't be as high effort as Prime 1 remake, think of the difference between Wind Waker HD/Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time HD and Twilight Princess HD and Skyward Sword HD. Those will come in either 2024/2025/2026 and will be cross gen too as they're remasters.
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These are nice predictions. I really can see all of them happening.
  • I can see Nintendo dumping craploads of cash to keep MH franchise Switch exclusive. There won't be MH6 on other platforms, next MH also will be on Switch.
  • NLG will do a one last Luigi's Mansion game before moving on. Maybe an open world styled game. Last game we had a hotel, this time we'll have a whole haunted town.
  • Not only there will be a Switch exclusive RE, I also predict all of the remaining RE game to appear on Drake.
  • I also agree that AC will get one final expansion. All of the content from past games will be in New Horizon.
  • There will be a Metroid 6 but I think MercurySteam will do different things for Nintendo too. A new IP, perhaps.

Here my additions:
  • Grezzo is doing Ever Oasis. A soft reboot, the new game will be much bigger than the first one.
  • New IP's from GoodFeel, IntSys, Vanpool and Dimps. Goodfeel's game is that Goemon style game, rebooted. Vanpool's new game again will feature cute animals.
  • Nintendo publishes & funds one of Media.Vision's secret projects.
  • Asano will return to Final Fantasy. Maybe FF5 in 2DHD. Published by Nintendo.
  • Golden Sun? No, a spiritual successor, from Camelot. 2025, maybe.
 
the worst thing that happens is that we're all wrong and at this stage in my life I just find that funny
 
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