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Well thank you tonight I'll be less dumb than this morning. Did not know this funky word.
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Ditto. Just announcing the damn thing means companies can announce the multi-play games for it too, so we can have actual discussion again.
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this is not a question I should ask on this thread but it always bothers me so
who the fuck are all these people with giant TVs? where do they put them?
they sell a ton so they must exist but I literally do not understand
my 40-something tv is absolutely massive for my needs and takes up so much space. I donโt think a bigger tv would even fit in my apartment
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avoids eye contact
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I have to sit 15 feet away from my TV as itโs gated away to stop my 3 year old daughter from touching it or getting too close to it to stare at it.
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โฆgated? โฆhm
but like Iโm stil 10โ away from mine, Iโve certainly been in situations where Iโm 15โ away (past apartments)
I guess Iโm not really having trouble with the concept of distance since for me it seems like you would need to be a lot further away for the size differential to matter a ton.
like I get that itโs worse for video games when so many people only make tiny-ass interfaces but 15โ seems like the norm, no?
so you got a bigger tv to sit a little further away from it so you could gate it off because you donโt want your kid to touch the fancy big tv
alright, thatโsโฆ one answer at least
you
tell me
this isnโt a crusade I am literally just trying to understand
the answer can be โI wanted a tv the size of the moon because I thought itโd be cool and Iโm swimming in moneyโ โ Iโm just trying to imagine what these setups look like and how the fuck they work
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I'd be right there with you but quietly because I've spent like three years being insufferable about this thing and don't want to spend three more that wayI think I will join #team2026 when there is no new news on May 7th
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I wouldn't be surprised if modern TVs do now, I don't have any 24fps content to test with mine. But the classic solution for broadcast television was the 3:2 pulldown.
Which, I should say, is not actually as bad as it sounds (though it is bad) because remember, this was 480i, not 480p. I think folks have started to forget that the "p" actually means something
I grew up in the country, I live in the city. The poor people I grew up with have bigger TVs than rich people here, because even dilapidated trailers have more space to sit back from the TV and have it fill your viewing area like a theater, than condos do here.
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damn itโs time for me to remember all the wild digital / true film shit I once knew
I wonder if modern TV formats have true 24fps accounting
back in my day it almost always ended up at 23.98 in conversion or for digital-first formats
and most things for tv would convert one second of film (24 frames) to one second of 60fps tv with the 3:2 rule
first frame lasts 3 converted frames
second lasts 2 converted frames
third frame lasts 3 converted frames
fourth lasts 2 converted frames
and so on
itโs a wild fuckinโ world
my brother toppled a crt on him when he was a kid because he was fucking around with the shelf. I don't blame folks for doing things to keep kids away, lol
Digital Foundry does another dive into PC handhelds with top end titles (Avatar, Burning Shores, Alan Wake 2). 25W continues to be the sweet spot to run all the games well, but Drake would not have this kind of power consumption. but it will have bespoke ports
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Nintendo on May 7th:
For our dedicated video game platform business, Nintendo is currently developing a successor to Nintendo Switch console. This new platform will launch in March 2025 globally. Please look forward to more details in the future.
For our dedicated video game platform business, Nintendo is currently developing a successor to Nintendo Switch console. This new platform will launch in March 2025 globally. Please look forward to more details in the future.
that's all the water we need to survive the desert
Also Drake is a more power efficient design than those, so 1 watt of Drake power can definitely not be compared 1:1.
1. its arm
2. probably better node.
3. More cores with lower clocks is more efficient than fewer cores with higher.
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Tensor core for DLSS, too.
Soralink91
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I don't know if I would go that far, but if we get past that with no news at all than I'm thinking later in 2025.I think I will join #team2026 when there is no new news on May 7th
Darknut85
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I will never be #TeamH2, regardless of year.
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Oh yeah, that one. Thanks. Feels like forever ago lol
I think he doesnโt want his kid touching/hitting/pulling on a TV of any size. Seems sensible to me.
This comes off kinda rude tbh. Iโm sure that wasnโt your intention but just letting you know
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Im looking forward the release of Strix Point, a cutdown from it (Probably called Z2 Extreme) is going to be amazing for the next generation of handhelds.
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My Switch has been out of commission due to shipping problems with replacement controllers. Finally up to play some games, I decided it was time to play my first shooter since 1998 and finally try out Deathloop on my Steam Deck.
Consider this my dark horse candidate for the Switch 2 equivalent of Skyrim. On Deck the default settings aren't actually great. Everything is low, most effects are disabled, and it's still unstable in hitting 60fps. But the game has the best FSR 2 implementation I've seen on Deck. The 2x upscale looks great, near enough to native that I don't notice unless I'm looking for it, and the 4x upscale legitimately looks good, with only the turrets - which have ultra thin lasers that breakup into pixels in the middle distance - looking distracting.
4x upscaling allows me to hit 60fps+add some additional exterior lighting effects, and the game has RT ambient occlusion and the like as well in the PC version. It feels like an exceptionally attractive version of this game would be possible on Drake's hardware.
From a business perspective, this is Microsoft game that did well, but underperformed expectations a little, and for contractual reasons, launched on Playstation first. If I were Microsoft looking at ports that could go third party, I'd see a catalog title with zero negative impact to the brand. A game that plays in a genre that Nintendo doesn't really hit (Prime excepted, and even that's a stretch), that would sell well.
I don't think it's a layup, for lots of reasons, but seeing what FSR2 can do in a good implementation on something as small as the Steam Deck gets me more excited for what Drake could deliver. I didn't particularly care for how FSR/XeSS upscaling looking in Death Stranding, but this feels like free performance.
Consider this my dark horse candidate for the Switch 2 equivalent of Skyrim. On Deck the default settings aren't actually great. Everything is low, most effects are disabled, and it's still unstable in hitting 60fps. But the game has the best FSR 2 implementation I've seen on Deck. The 2x upscale looks great, near enough to native that I don't notice unless I'm looking for it, and the 4x upscale legitimately looks good, with only the turrets - which have ultra thin lasers that breakup into pixels in the middle distance - looking distracting.
4x upscaling allows me to hit 60fps+add some additional exterior lighting effects, and the game has RT ambient occlusion and the like as well in the PC version. It feels like an exceptionally attractive version of this game would be possible on Drake's hardware.
From a business perspective, this is Microsoft game that did well, but underperformed expectations a little, and for contractual reasons, launched on Playstation first. If I were Microsoft looking at ports that could go third party, I'd see a catalog title with zero negative impact to the brand. A game that plays in a genre that Nintendo doesn't really hit (Prime excepted, and even that's a stretch), that would sell well.
I don't think it's a layup, for lots of reasons, but seeing what FSR2 can do in a good implementation on something as small as the Steam Deck gets me more excited for what Drake could deliver. I didn't particularly care for how FSR/XeSS upscaling looking in Death Stranding, but this feels like free performance.
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My family tv is a 48" LG OLED and 4K content is frighteningly realistic (Baby Reindeer, anyone?). Our gaming rig is somewhat larger
.45-65W handheld?
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Strix Point shouldn't appear on handhelds, outside of some premium (=>$1000). Too big of a design for them.
PC Handhelds should get Kraken Point (4Z5 + 4Z5C + 4 RDNA 3.5 WGP) or Intel Lunar Lake.
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That is what I am expecting. Either that or "The Switch is still in the middle of its lifespan. Stop asking us questions."
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Wait we ve got a semi confirmation for March 2025 from an insider?
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I wouldn't say I'm swimming in money, but I live in the suburbs and our space is such that we have a long wall and can fit a sizable TV and speakers. I've had some form of Home Theater since I was in high school, so the calculus is always 'how much screen can I reasonably fit in this space?'
Also these big ol' TVs are one of the only things that has significantly beaten inflation over the years. It's not like 2005 when you had to pay $10+ grand for one.
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that tracks, so long as space allows. I guess most of my trailer experience is with smaller ones
though my bracket is definitely broke-end apartment rental in a fairly big city, so I do have the advantage of a tiny living space for my tiny huge tv these days
the biggest advantage of being broke as shit out here, though, is not having to live in a condo
okay maybe i should clarify here
I love being rude โ but Iโm not especially trying to be right now!
I think Iโm doing a classic โoverthink something that really doesnโt fucking matter and then phrase it poorly and consecutively until you donโt make any sense and everyone hates youโ loop
to be clear I totally fucking get not wanting televisions to fall on children, lmao. Iโm more of an anchors and brackets style securer but Iโm certainly not trying to fault anyone for a childproof gate
I think this kind of reveals what Iโm actually trying to ask here:
what the fuck are yโallโs floorplans
again not a judgment thing, just trying to conceptualize and Iโm a fiend about layout. the popularity of big flatscreens tells me a lot of people have a use case, and a layout that works for the use case
but since thatโs really far outside of the wheelhouse of me and just about everyone I know (granted thatโs like five and a half people on a humid day)
I want to know more
about how thatโs laid out to suit yโall
and what choices led you there
my primary hangup with the gate part (that probably amped up my tone and confusion) is where the damn gate goes and what it looks like, because everything I tried imagining seemed exceedingly weird and I realized I had fucked up bad at comprehension
and now Iโve written who knows how many paragraphs overexplaining my broken-ass head instead of just enjoying being caustic, incomprehensible, and bad for the vibe
hmm
I always feel like I end up in trouble when I post in this thread, lmao
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Nintendo on May 7th :
Introducing... Nintendo One.
Nintendo One is about to become the next watercooler.
TV. TV. Television. Television. Television. Nintendo One, open Netscape Navigator. Sports, Sports, Sports, Sports, Call of Duty, Call of Duty, Sports, Sports, EA, I named my own son Luigi, Television, Sports, TV, TV, TV, TV. An exclusive TV adaptation of Metroid on Paramount+ by the writers of the HALO TV show.
TV.
TV
TV !
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We ran Juile Uhrman's comments into an algorithm and this is what it said.
On another note.
I can actually comment on this specifically in regards to Deathloop on Steam Deck. I think it's a good 8/10 game with a terrible story but excellent gunplay (confidently the second-weakest Arkane game imo), but the more important thing to note is it as a demonstration of Switch 2 hardware. On Steam Deck specifically, I played it with medium settings preset and FSR enabled at 30fps and it ran pretty well overall. Not perfect, there was a fair few issues pertaining to it being Deathloop on a PC, but it was a good enough experience to the point that Microsoft would actually benefit from putting it on Switch 2. It's a good dark-horse option imo, especially as a technical showcase. I think Sea of Thieves and Hi-Fi Rush are the more likely two for obvious reasons, but I would be pretty happy about this.
That said, I do think there's a lot of other very strong titles in Xbox's back catalogue that would benefit from a Switch 2 port. There's the ever-obvious Xbox 360 titles that still aren't on Switch like Fallout 3 and New Vegas etc., but there's also Fallout 4, Dishonored 2, even Ghostwire there's a whole bunch of stuff that would be excellent on the device that still isn't. Deathloop would probably be the best pick, but I just think it's a bit of a shame that other Xbox titles from their non-Xbox Game Studios subsidiaries haven't made the jump to Switch.
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I mean in a sense
but inversely the โlow-cost functional tvโ range has blasted into incomprehensibility
like Iโm seeing โaffordable tvโ articles that start at $1000 and for the rest of us thatโs a massive shit flip
like you can still dig pretty far to snag a 30โ $200 tv if youโre willing to get a brand implied to burn out like a lightbulb
idk though
maybe I donโt fuckinโ know shit
you don't though. my 42" 4K tv was $250 and it was from a reputable brand (one of their lower end ones, but it comes with warranty)
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I mean, last Black Friday you could snag a 75" TV for between $500-700. That's not pocket change, but I place it in the same sort of 'shell out to upgrade every 6-8 years' category as, like, a game console.
But I realize everyone's got different priorities, desires, and means.
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I think of the "Skyrim slot" as much about "what third party port would Nintendo choose to feature in launch marketing." Skyrim wasn't just a good get, it helps sell the hybrid concept. Nintendo games on a Nintendo handheld, sure. "You will be playing Full Fat Open World RPGs on the plane" tells you what Nintendo was going for, in a way that first party games couldn't quite do.
I think everyone at this point sort of expects Nintendo's console to be "the best place to play last gen games" and the hybrid concept is no longer new. I don't know what Nintendo's pitch for this new console is, but (former) PS5 Exclusive says "this is a big upgrade" in a way that other ports don't.
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Cyberpunk or Elden Ring would be good Skyrim equivalents imo. Especially Elden Ring.
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Giant TVs aren't really that giant, I think. When I went from 1080p60 to 4K120 I also wanted to increase the field of view, and so went from 42" to 55" in a room that's less than 15' on each side. The extra ~foot of height and width didn't cause it to overlap with anything else. Especially with as thin as they are, they don't start taking up much real volume unless adding in speakers or other devices in the same vicinity.
Not exactly down to the inch, but here's my room's general layout. 14'x9' seems pretty close, so I put it into a 1400x900 image. A cramped place, but works for sleeping/gaming/PCing.
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"That third party port featured in marketing" can be filled by a lot of titles and I still believe it'll be filled by [THAT BLACKLISTED POLISH GAME]. It makes a lot of sense given it's technical aspects, it's use of RT, and Nvidia seems to like using it in marketing everywhere, including in ray reconstruction recently. Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 would be good games to showcase also, though there's a lot less to show off in each title.
There's other good technical showcases that might be a good for Nintendo specifically, like Marvel 1943 or Metal Gear Solid Delta, or they could just aim for "Very good games with a lot of content" like Metaphor: Refantazio (Yes I'm assuming the game will be good before launch, why do you ask?)
Regardless, Nintendo needs to show a modern game that's very liked and will sell a console just by being ported. Something like a big open world, a sandbox with a lot of potential for creativity, a highly replayable experience that anyone can enjoy..... so just tie it in with Minecraft, that'll sort it. /s
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I would say either Alan wake 2 or Baldur gate 3 would be good options, since those are highly acclaimed and NG exclusives.
But I think the best possible port to showcase what Nintendo is willing to do or even let itโs consumers know that their not fucking around with the third party would be GTA6, just with that you gain the trust and Awed of people from everywhere for the switch 2.
Like have that puppy be 1080/30 native, but upscale to 1440p would be nice and handheld mode might be 540p upscaled to 800-900p
Not with that attitude. I used to have a 55" TV in a tiny studio apartment. I just generally haven't been especially worried about putting a ton of space between me and the TV.
It's probably somewhat more reasonably sized for the room its in now, but chances are good I'll go bigger when it comes time to replace it (probably still a while off unless it breaks). Ideally I'd like to replace it with something like a micro LED display, which ironically tend to run large, but those aren't really available at sane prices (and sizes) yet.
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Those tv are so cheap it is because they constantly throw ads at you.
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Back in February, it was widely reported that Nintendo was letting third-parties know that they made the call to internally delay the system from its original target (sometime in H2, most likely November) to the end of the fiscal year in March. Assuming whatever caused the delay didn't get worse somehow, March 2025 is the expected release month that Nintendo will (hopefully) announce on the 7th.
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Hdr will be the bigger upgrade, not the resolution, Iโve played switch games in auto hdr and they are a treat and a half in HDR at higher resolution on my little $400 TCL R646. The problem is that 4K TVs that have good 1000 nits HDR and local dimming start at $500 and only come from TCL and Hisense, the cheapest Samsung TV that has good HDR isnโt that much cheaper than a S90C QD-OLED ($1100), same with Sony and LG. So yeah you will be missing out on the amazingly colorful bright HDR on Switch 2 but most people will unfortunately even on 4K โHDRโ sets.
I think we all would agree GTA6 would be the biggest possible get, but I question if Rockstar would move heaven and earth to make a port happen.
I think a port would benefit Nintendo a lot more than it would benefit Rockstar, so it would take some serious convincing/ concessions from Nintendos side. Not sure they would go that far.
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Iโm slightly hopeful since Nintendo have been hiring people to handle the third party developers and I guess convince them to port their games.
Plus, itโs a good reminder that GTA6 Wonโt be on PC (at launch) and rockstar best way to capitalise on the Asian market would be by having it on the switch 2, like a good example is Japan, since theyโre are now moving to Handheld and Pc market, presumably because of their busy schedule (I for one use my switch at work, when I have night shift)
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I had a feeling of what it is, but it is so hard to discuss, since it is banned. I mean it has everything that shows you it can outperform the PS4 in every way.
- Higher resolution and maybe a stable 30 fps
- Faster loading and texture streaming.
- Higher NPC density.
- Some form of ray tracing
So I am not the only one.
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My two thoughts here are:
4K60 on NG Switch is pretty much like 1080p60 on Switch, I wouldn't expect every game to hit it. But because upscaling has gotten better and it has hardware accelerated upscaling, I'd say we'll see "4K" more often on NG Switch than we did 1080p on Switch. I guess that would be the same idea, right, not "consistent" at hitting its max output? 1080p60 in TV mode on NG Switch will probably SING compared to the Switch and even last gen home consoles.
The other is oh gosh I am the Opposite TV User to you in a lot of ways. I like a big TV and I sit close to it, I use my 4K 50" TV as 4 1080p 25" monitors. When I'm playing a game or watching a movie I'll usually also sit back a bit, roll the chair or sit on the bed. Small space big TV, it fits into my life in a particular way.
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