To be frank, I doubt those Nvidia insiders know what they're talking about(funny I'm saying this bc I'm not that big into tech), as we would have definitely heard by now that Nintendo is overhauling it's SOC. And 8nm still hasn't been proven yet(neither has 4N but it has a stronger case).
To be realistic if any third party was looking at a shit year, having an additional userbase of several million to sell to while competing against Nintendo's own launch games isn't going to move the needle that much.You mean the ones that are mega pissed right now because they counted on switch 2 to help them through the shitty fiscal year incoming ?
No. John had thoughts on this in the Nate episode. This is not like going from the wii to wii u. Switch to switch 2 is not going to be this drastically different architecture. The tools should scale pretty well from a development point of view. Some of the engines will be probably the same with access to output at a higher Fidelity.
2023 was once stupid, 2024 once both stupid and trolling, and until very recently 2025 was outlandishly stupid trolling
the nature of the project is why Nvidia insiders wouldn't know. being a customer project, it gets sectioned off from the usual products. if it wasn't for the data theft, we'd be so in the dark
maybe they're still in the process of deciding whether it will even launch in the coming FY.
That's true, but I feel like a complete change from T239 would've made it out to the public somehow, since it's been taped since 2022, and the delay being pushed to 2025 doesn't indicate a change in the SOC.
more like the ghost of Polygon.
I've gotta hop on 2027 before it's cool.
we'd probably learn of that from third parties. "our dev kits were taken away" kinda deal
it's all about that smooth transition. it's so smooth you won't even feel it.
If it is a pure software delay, Shinya Takahashi will be in trouble.
Nothing. The answer will most likely be nothing. This is especially true if the transition turns out to be fine. Considering the board didn’t oust Iwata or his board during their WiiU tenure, I very much doubt they do it here due to an internal delay for a product that was never announced. At worst their approval goes down slightly.
Yes. I agree. Polish and scope, I guess which was mentioned in Op's post. And also based on how Nintendo goes about making games. Create compelling idea/mechanic, build game around it. So those kind of things I can see causing problems, especially now that they have to do it in a bigger splashier way, to convince people that switch 2 is the way.
due to Switch sucessor been delayed to 2025, only on next year, we gonna see Nintendo knowledge the console
Who knows, we recently got the news that March 2025 is now the earliest launch date. Maybe a year from now we will hear that Switch 2 will come out fall 2025 and the cycle continues.
I was listening to Nate’s podcast and didn’t think much of it (What MVG said). Now I’m starting to think there might be some sense to it. Furukawa is probably shaking in his boots to launch a new console. He knows that Nintendo has a history of flopping after a successful console generation. That’s why he‘s insistently dragging the switch life cycle as long as possible. Extending it as long as possible. He’s scared. The Switch was essentially handed to him. This man has not launched a new console. They’re trying to get everything right. And tbh, he’s just delaying the inevitable.
Would be very interesting to know why Nintendo, even though they merged their handheld-console development together still are unable to meet their original release plans, the merger was supposed to streamline development to such degree that these sort of delays would no longer happen. Something has gone seriously wrong. I can only guess that for Nintendo jumping from Switch to Switch 2 specs have been more challenging than they thought it would be.
octobre anouncement, january blowout, march/april launch
They should've fomulated a plan for the successor console as soon as the Switch launched.
the frustrating part is how by all accounts the hardware will be very capable & Nvidia has given them the ultimate lay-up. yet T239 is taped out in 2022 and it might be going on 3 years before they have a system using it.
What could have happened is that the Switch had so much better legs than Nintendo ever thought it would have had which led them to go down a route of pushing the Switch 2 more and more inte the backburner, until it turned out they pushed it too far back to get it ready when needed. That could explain all those cancelled Switch pro rumours from before, the Switch pro was something they originally planned to release but the great Switch sales made them think a pro was unneeded. But with the delay of the Switch 2 a pro would have been very much needed right now, to play Nintendo games at a better fps than we currently can play them.
Actually it can be logistic or hardware production problem. BTW I just having fun about those rumor, even march reveal is a rumor too
Nintendo havent announce anything yet.
It might sour relations between Nintendo and Nvidia a bit, unless Nintendo somehow manages to hit the jackpot with the Switch successor again.
In what way would it sour relations?
That’s not how that works lol, especially in a company with as many moving parts and employees like Nintendo. Their hardware teams absolutely began working on it the minute the Switch 1 was done, and if the delay is apparently software-related, their main teams have probably been working on games for the console since at least they finished their biggest titles on Switch 1.
Basically this, too many people thought that the rumors were something else... You can't "go crazy" now that a HYPOTHETICAL launch window (end of 2024) has been internally postponed by 4-5 months.
www.videogameschronicle.com
I remember being pretty excited hearing about it
Nvidia wants to make profit, preferably as soon as possible. So does Nintendo, but Nvidia probably wants to knock it out of the park since they designed a custom chip this time. Releasing in 2025(which we don't even know if March is a lock), means Nintendo will have to compete with a possible PS5 Pro, consumers that will want to buy a GTA6 PS5/Xbox bundle, or even other handhelds. And yes, I do believe Nintendo is competing with others in the video game industry and is not operating in some untouchable niche market.
It wouldn't lol.
if it's literally that software is behind schedule then a few months isn't much. just based on past examples there could easily be further delays. maybe Q1 2025 is their most optimistic scenario as to not piss-off third parties too much.
if only there was some big open world game in the last year that would massively benefit from running with better fidelity.
No thank you, waited long enough for that.
Delaying a console into a year that will be in a much more competitive market, which could possibly result in lower sales, could be a little disappointing to Nvidia. I'm not saying it's destroying all business ties between Nvidia and Nintendo, but it goes against Nvidia's expectations, especially since they really care about T239 as it is a custom chip for Nintendo. I doubt Nvidia is jumping for joy at the news of a console delay lol.
