What's the point in making different EPD groups work together on the same game? To put it simply, that isn't how the internal groups work; they might provide minor development support to one another, but they each lead development on different games and franchises. Even without the DK Vine rumour, you'd have to ask which Nintendo franchise - especially 2D - is important enough to return to internal development. Donkey Kong, moreso than Wario or Yoshi, fits the bill. And, the last time DK was handled internally, it was in Tokyo by what was then EAD Tokyo.
Neither DK Vine nor Nate have stated what kind of perspective the new game will be in. All we know is that it exists. From the recent hirings, it is speculated to be 2D.
This argument of "which franchise is important enough to return to internal development" feels weird as
DKC hit the 9 to 10 million range with both the original and Returns. By way of comparison, the peak for Yoshi was Yoshi's Island on SNES, at 4 million sold. To put that in perspective, DKC 2 and 3, plus DK64, Diddy Kong Racing, and now the Switch version of Tropical Freeze have all sold more than 4 million copies (and in some cases hit the 5 million barrier). Tropical Freeze, as a barebones port, has sold over 1 million copies more than the latest Yoshi game, for example.
I'd say that Donkey Kong definitely has more importance to Nintendo than Yoshi. It's the next theme park in line for them, they've made sure the Kongs are featuring in the Mario film, and it's the original foundation of their videogame business. It has a cultural capital and reach that Yoshi lacks.
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What's a shame regarding Arzest/Artoon's take, is that they had SOMETHING with Yoshi's Topsy-Turvy. They should've stuck to making more super creative spin-offs, and not just "inferior copycats of Yoshi's Island". Such a shame. I hope we get a true Yoshi's Island 2 from EPD someday. Touch & Go felt like a small step towards that, but shamefully they didn't take on Yoshi's Island DS, giving that to Artoon instead. Was T&G by the Mario Advance team and then went to NSMB afterwards?
I doubt EPD 8 would be working on two DK projects at the same time, especially since this is their first time experimenting with the IP. Two DK games would be overkill.
Jungle Beat?
The Donkey Kong game they kinda want us to forget about now.
The Donkey Kong game they kinda want us to forget about now.
Paper Mario was their own technologies. that's about all we can surmise
Sorry, I meant that this could be the DK game they are developing... after all, nobody has claimed it is a Donkey Kong COUNTRY title and it would be more EPD-esque going down this particular route...
We'll have to wait for official information, but that's exactly what worries me about a release of TotK on current hardware only. The Wii U didn't get a brand new Zelda game or 3D Mario to help its launch. I can't imagine a situation where Nintendo would make the exact same mistake again. That would be absurd.
I could see 2D Mario even in April which is still a blank spot. Previous 2D Mario projects had an extremely short turnaround between reveal and release (U Deluxe and MM2), and it would be a dream to have 2D Mario in April and Zelda in May.
If I had to speculate, Heroes and Origami King were likely seen as the bigger priorities in 2016/17, which led to Koei being brought on. They had a stopgap title with SoV, so there probably wasn’t much to worry about. Even if the concept for Three Houses began in 2015, it didn’t enter full production until Early 2017.
Three Houses was managed by IS. THE duties were split because IS had other games to work on like Origami King. They were never not capable of modern development
I think you understood perfectly what I meant. IS shouldn't need a support studio to handle the majority of the development of one of its most important projects.
actually it’s the opposite I say. It shows how efficient and smart IS is when it comes to handling one of their most important series.
modern development practices and quantity of projects makes this a dumb mentality
Why shouldn’t they need a support studio?
Ask Alpha Dream if it's a dumb mentality to think it's beneficial and desirable to be able to take on HD development. If they still existed, I think their answer would be interesting and not really "dumb".
I've read this like three times and I still have absolutely no idea what you're saying or how it relates to ILikeFeet's response
That they need help is not my point. Zelda and Mario have help too. I would like to put the question another way: if Koei Tecmo is responding to modern development challenges and not IS, what is the viability of IS? I'm not saying that IS can't at all, that's not what I believe, I'll just be happy to find that they are if it turns out that they haven't needed Koei Tecmo so much for Engage.
I'm just saying that thinking it's important to be comfortable with HD development isn't "dumb". I hope it doesn't take you 4 readings to figure this out, but it does, I apologize sincerely.
Alpha Dream was mismanaged and extremely late to the hd development party. they took on debt to keep their lights on because they didn't have enough projects. their problems have no relation to Intelligent Systems
what does this have to do with Intelligent Systems, whom have already put out a number of HD games, including one of the best looking Switch games?
IS’ viability remains quite high. I imagine they used KT as an experienced HD game developer to help bridge the gap between 3DS & Switch. We’ll see if Engage is all Gust, a mix, or all IS. But, I don’t really think there are issues with IS using another studio to make their game.
you still haven't explained why it's not OK. this is the norm in the industry, especially when you have multiple projects to tackle.
It's not like they couldn't have handled Fire Emblem by themselves but something had to give with their current output. IS isn't a big company (below 200 people from what we know), the fact that they can be flexible and let Koei Tecmo do most of the development work on a critically and commercially acclaimed entry isn't a weakness as you're portraying here.
