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xghost777 said:
Also yeah, if you haven’t played Remake yet, they do an awesome job respecting the original and maintaining what made the original special down to some of the most lovably weird stuff like Hell House.
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Yeah I haven't played it yet. As soon as I found out they were splitting it into multiple games (and that it'd probably eventually bleed onto PS5) I had a strong desire to just wait for the whole thing to be out and play it all in one go, on one system. And sure enough, they made a PS5 version of VII-R shortly after release 😅 and they at least confirmed it'll only be a trilogy, so not much longer to wait from here.

Although I'm kinda blown away that it's three games, the first of which only covers the first, like, 10-15% of the original story. The rest of this trilogy is either gonna speedrun the rest of the story or change it so drastically that it doesn't even compare. Guess we'll see.

(and hopefully used PS5s will be super cheap by the time VII-R3 is out)
 
3dsboss said:
I'm not sure if this is a question for here or another thread so I apologize in advance but I've been thinking about this question in relation to the possibility of the upcoming Nintendo Direct.

With the next Nintendo Direct possiblity revealing a lot of what we can expect for the Nintendo Switch for the year, I was wondering how far into the next console's generation that you all think the Nintendo Switch will get first-party support? I know there's been a lot of speculation related to how long the Switch would receive first-party support from Nintendo and, so, it's been something I've been thinking about in relation to what I think we'll see in this Nintendo Direct as well. I'm not very familiar with how long into each generation Nintendo keeps first party support for their consoles, but I feel like the range is usually around eight years (possibly outside of the GameBoy, GameBoy Color, and GameBoy Advance generations)?

The only generations I can remember off the top of my head are the DS and 3DS ones where I feel like they both were also around eight years with first-party support? I know a lot of people have talked about there being some time where Nintendo releases games for both the Nintendo Switch and their next generation console, with Metroid Prime 4 probably being the most commonly talked about example as a cross-generation game, and I also feel like their backwards compatibility plans also probably have a hand in whatever they decide. I just know the Nintendo Switch will be eight years old in March of 2025 so it's made me think a lot more about how long I personally think it would receive support after the next console releases.

I'm sorry for the really long post here and I apologize deeply once again if this isn't the proper thread to ask this question on. I am really interested into seeing what you all do have to say and/or the insight you all could provide as I don't feel like I also know a lot on this topic in general outside of more recent generations. For me, I'm really excited for the upcoming Nintendo Direct and it's been really great reading through this thread and seeing all your thoughts, hopes, and predictions as we (hopefully) come up to it very soon!! :)
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This is definitely a good question for the thread :)

Given how successful Switch 1 was, I could easily see another two years of support from Nintendo after the Switch 2 launches. Remakes / Remasters / and ports will definitely be a good chunk of it, but also I think we’ll get a good handful of cross gen games as a lot of Nintendo franchises, the platformers especially, don’t really need too much power. I imagine Pokemon will stick around for two years as well with cross gen games because it will take a while for the install base of Switch 2 to build up.
 
xghost777 said:
This is definitely a good question for the thread :)

Given how successful Switch 1 was, I could easily see another two years of support from Nintendo after the Switch 2 launches. Remakes / Remasters / and ports will definitely be a good chunk of it, but also I think we’ll get a good handful of cross gen games as a lot of Nintendo franchises, the platformers especially, don’t really need too much power. I imagine Pokemon will stick around for two years as well with cross gen games because it will take a while for the install base of Switch 2 to build up.
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We’ll be getting Switch games in 2026 and possibly 2027 almost for certain. Nintendo supported the 3DS with new games until 2019 and only stopped producing them because of the pandemic.
 
xghost777 said:
This is definitely a good question for the thread :)

Given how successful Switch 1 was, I could easily see another two years of support from Nintendo after the Switch 2 launches. Remakes / Remasters / and ports will definitely be a good chunk of it, but also I think we’ll get a good handful of cross gen games as a lot of Nintendo franchises, the platformers especially, don’t really need too much power. I imagine Pokemon will stick around for two years as well with cross gen games because it will take a while for the install base of Switch 2 to build up.
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It seems that Nintendo has already confirmed that the switch 1 will still be supported by new releases in the next fiscal year. This means support until at least March 2025, and they will probably go on for one more year after that.

However, I’m not sure it goes well beyond that date. Especially because the long transition period of the current consoles was the result of shortages that Nintendo seems to want to avoid. And Nintendo has every interest in pushing its switch 2 to the maximum.

There are a good dozen games that look like obvious in cross gen output. Obviously, Metroid Prime 4. Most likely the next Pokémon remake and possibly the next spin-off as well. The latest Wii U ports like Zelda or Yoshi. Some 3DS titles that deserve a new exhibition like Kid icarus, Todomachi or the remake of Metroid 2. Some GameCube/ Wii titles that fill obvious gaps in the current game library of the switch like Star Fox, Donkey Kong Country returns, Luigi’s Mansion 1.
 
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3dsboss said:
I'm not sure if this is a question for here or another thread so I apologize in advance but I've been thinking about this question in relation to the possibility of the upcoming Nintendo Direct.

With the next Nintendo Direct possiblity revealing a lot of what we can expect for the Nintendo Switch for the year, I was wondering how far into the next console's generation that you all think the Nintendo Switch will get first-party support? I know there's been a lot of speculation related to how long the Switch would receive first-party support from Nintendo and, so, it's been something I've been thinking about in relation to what I think we'll see in this Nintendo Direct as well. I'm not very familiar with how long into each generation Nintendo keeps first party support for their consoles, but I feel like the range is usually around eight years (possibly outside of the GameBoy, GameBoy Color, and GameBoy Advance generations)?

The only generations I can remember off the top of my head are the DS and 3DS ones where I feel like they both were also around eight years with first-party support? I know a lot of people have talked about there being some time where Nintendo releases games for both the Nintendo Switch and their next generation console, with Metroid Prime 4 probably being the most commonly talked about example as a cross-generation game, and I also feel like their backwards compatibility plans also probably have a hand in whatever they decide. I just know the Nintendo Switch will be eight years old in March of 2025 so it's made me think a lot more about how long I personally think it would receive support after the next console releases.

I'm sorry for the really long post here and I apologize deeply once again if this isn't the proper thread to ask this question on. I am really interested into seeing what you all do have to say and/or the insight you all could provide as I don't feel like I also know a lot on this topic in general outside of more recent generations. For me, I'm really excited for the upcoming Nintendo Direct and it's been really great reading through this thread and seeing all your thoughts, hopes, and predictions as we (hopefully) come up to it very soon!! :)
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i believe Nintendo will suport Nintendo Switch for 2/3 more years, but with small scale games, ports, remakes, remasters and some cross-gen games, and in that period Nintendo will gradualy drop it focus on Switch and fully focus on the successor, kinda like Sony did with PS4 to PS5.
 
boodream said:
It seems that Nintendo has already confirmed that the switch 1 will still be supported by new releases in the next fiscal year. This means support until at least March 2025.

However, I’m not sure it goes well beyond that date. Especially because the long transition period of the current consoles was the result of shortages that Nintendo seems to want to avoid. And Nintendo has every interest in pushing its switch 2 to the maximum.

There are a good dozen games that look like evidences in cross gen output. Obviously, Metroid Prime 4. Most likely the next Pokémon remake and possibly the next spin-off as well. The latest Wii U ports like Zelda or Yoshi. Some 3DS titles that deserve a new exhibition like Kid icarus, Todomachi or the remake of Metroid 2. Some GameCube/ Wii titles that fill obvious gaps in the current game library of the switch like Star Fox, Donkey Kong Country returns, Luigi’s Mansion 1.
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It‘s a bit pedantic but he said “…Fiscalyear ending March 2025…“. They only had to release one game in that fiscalyear for Switch to stay true to the statement. Of course Switch‘ll get more games, just saying.
 
LukasManak22 said:
Is this a serious question? I will never betray. Last June it was similar story, Nate said he haven't heard anything on a June Direct yet, Grubb said that too and said he heard something about July. I lot of people laughted straight to my face. Few days came by and everyone started saying that they heard about a Direct, I was even brough up on the SpawnCast as "Who the fuck is that?" Then June Direct happened and I was laughting once again. The cycle is always the same.
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This story should be told to our childrens and it should be part of the curriculum

What a Legend
 
I definitely think we see Switch software support for the next couple of years but I don't think it's going to be anything huge, beyond this year's inevitable Pokemon title. Even some remaining Wii U ports - especially Xenoblade X and perhaps even the Zelda HD titles - might well get optimised for new hardware, given those are core franchises for enthusiast fans, exactly the type likely to migrate to new hardware first. If Nintendo want to bring over NES Remix and Yoshi's Woolly World, though, then I think they'd make sense as cross-gen titles. And cross-gen here isn't really defined yet - does it just mean available on Switch 1 after Switch 2 launches, or do we get discrete versions of the same game for each format? Nintendo experimented with the latter approach on 3DS/Switch, but obviously backwards compatibility wasn't an option there.

The points made earlier about Mario Party are valid, too. While I'd once considered that to be easy cross-gen material, we've had two successive titles on Switch break the 10 million mark. Super Mario Party has managed to sell over 20 million by being available for the bulk of the Switch's lifecycle. I'd expect Nintendo to want similar returns - and similar selling power - for their next-gen system. Party has entered that tier of franchises which deliver seriously big numbers and those are the titles you'd expect Nintendo to want paced out on a new system. In the absence of Splatoon and new open world Zelda in the successor's first 12 months, I think titles like Animal Crossing and Mario Party will be a next-gen priority for the second Christmas (2025).

All that's irrelevant for next week's Direct, unless Nintendo pull my pants down and are like "Mario Party Megastars coming to Nintendo Switch this year choo fucking chooooo!!!!"
 
Also, about Paper Mario TTYD. Please, please make Ms. Mowz BETTER.
Maybe give us a Boss Rush mode or something like that.
New badges? I'm in.
I really don't think we will get Luigi's side story, Sorry.
 
MisterSpo said:
I definitely think we see Switch software support for the next couple of years but I don't think it's going to be anything huge, beyond this year's inevitable Pokemon title. Even some remaining Wii U ports - especially Xenoblade X and perhaps even the Zelda HD titles - might well get optimised for new hardware, given those are core franchises for enthusiast fans, exactly the type likely to migrate to new hardware first. If Nintendo want to bring over NES Remix and Yoshi's Woolly World, though, then I think they'd make sense as cross-gen titles. And cross-gen here isn't really defined yet - does it just mean available on Switch 1 after Switch 2 launches, or do we get discrete versions of the same game for each format? Nintendo experimented with the latter approach on 3DS/Switch, but obviously backwards compatibility wasn't an option there.

The points made earlier about Mario Party are valid, too. While I'd once considered that to be easy cross-gen material, we've had two successive titles on Switch break the 10 million mark. Super Mario Party has managed to sell over 20 million by being available for the bulk of the Switch's lifecycle. I'd expect Nintendo to want similar returns - and similar selling power - for their next-gen system. Party has entered that tier of franchises which deliver seriously big numbers and those are the titles you'd expect Nintendo to want paced out on a new system. In the absence of Splatoon and new open world Zelda in the successor's first 12 months, I think titles like Animal Crossing and Mario Party will be a next-gen priority for the second Christmas (2025).

All that's irrelevant for next week's Direct, unless Nintendo pull my pants down and are like "Mario Party Megastars coming to Nintendo Switch this year choo fucking chooooo!!!!"
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I think Mario Kart will be the big priority for 2025 Holiday (and will have a long running expansion pass of new characters/tracks) - basically taking the place of Smash as the early gen MP "live service" with multiple DLC passes, bc Smash probably won't be ready til way later in the gen (and perhaps they think like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe they can get by with just a port for this gen). Animal Crossing will probably be 2/3 years in, but I could see there being a Mario Party for holiday this year (Switch 1/BC)
 
aus89 said:
I think Mario Kart will be the big priority for 2025 Holiday (and will have a long running expansion pass of new characters/tracks) - basically taking the place of Smash as the early gen MP "live service" with multiple DLC passes, bc Smash probably won't be ready til way later in the gen (and perhaps they think like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe they can get by with just a port for this gen). Animal Crossing will probably be 2/3 years in, but I could see there being a Mario Party for holiday this year (Switch 1/BC)
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I'm personally guessing Mario Kart is either in the launch window for the first Christmas or (more likely I think) is in spring/summer 2025 to keep sales powering along. Spreading their system sellers is Nitnendo's best bet. Years 2/3 I'd guess is when you see Smash, Splatoon, Switch Sports/Ring Fit, and if we're lucky, the very end of year 3 might bring open world Zelda.

If Pokemon's sticking to a 3 year development cycle for each generation (which I hope they don't), then we'd also be due for the next generation of Pokemon titles in 2025, too, so that gives Nintendo more options (e.g. move another system seller like Animal Crossing to spring 2026). Mario Party does seem due this year, but I am wondering if it is now too "important" commercially to put on Switch in late 2024 when it could become an important long-term seller on new hardware next year.

While some people see the lack of Zelda as a big problem, the first 3 years of a successor system should see 3D Mario, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, a new Pokemon generation, Splatoon, Smash Bros, Luigi's Mansion, the next 3D Kirby and stuff from EPD 4 like follow ups to Switch Sports and Ring Fit (not to mention potential new IP or third party collaborations). There's the potential for new Tomodachi and Donkey Kong titles to be big hits on new hardware, having seemingly skipped new entries on Switch. The big question is how they pace that stuff.
 
Honestly it sucks to admit but I think that if they pull a switch only direct while still playing the "nothing to comment" about next hardware, I will be bored to death and, I should say, mildly pissed off.
This whole situation has lasted long enough.
 
xghost777 said:
Here we are at the start of Week 6 of Nintendo Direct Speculation! Is this our last week of the thread as a majority have been guessing? It makes so much sense and yet the smoke has been minimal so far. It could be the quiet before the Direct storm or we could be waiting a little longer. We’ll see! If we do start getting Pyoro leaks in particular in the next few days, I do want to remind everyone the plan is for this thread to become the spoiler thread and it will run until the end of the Direct airing. Please keep all Direct spoilers in this thread to keep the nonspoiler crowd safe. If this is the last week and it drops on the 7th in particular, we won’t be getting the last planned weekly question, so just in case I do want to thank everyone who has been answering these! Y’all have really made the thread lively and opened up more excellent discussion :) Let’s roll into our next question now!

Week 6 - What new content do you expect to see and what would you like to see from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door? Are there any other upcoming remaster / remakes you hope will get some brand new content?

For my own answer, there’s so much potential here! I’m most expecting some kind of new epilogue adventure though who it will star and how long it will be exactly I’m not so sure. I think I’d most love to see another small adventure with Mario reuniting with his friends, so I’m going to hope for that most. A few new Super Bosses like Mario RPG would be very cool to have as well. Also, we need more Flavio. That’s important!

As for the other part of the question, I’m really looking forward to Final Fantasy VII Rebirth which sort of straddles the line between new game and remake. In the original game there’s a sequence where Cloud rides a dolphin a hundred feet in the air to continue his journey. That scene needs to be there and we also need a full new minigame revolving around the party riding dolphins for more goofy fun.
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1. luigi campaign with daisy's role at this new story. will be a great way for nintendo to capitalise on the daisy hype from super mario bros wonder
2. massive copium for drakengard 1 + 2 + 3 games with additional endings
 
I’m totally unconvinced we’ll get a Direct before a Switch 2 reveal, but the Lukas rule is so strong that I’m on team February. You just can’t fight it.
 
Lukas needs to use his power to will the Switch 2 announcement and a H1 2024 release into existence.

He has the responsibility, because he has the power.
 
xghost777 said:
Here we are at the start of Week 6 of Nintendo Direct Speculation! Is this our last week of the thread as a majority have been guessing? It makes so much sense and yet the smoke has been minimal so far. It could be the quiet before the Direct storm or we could be waiting a little longer. We’ll see! If we do start getting Pyoro leaks in particular in the next few days, I do want to remind everyone the plan is for this thread to become the spoiler thread and it will run until the end of the Direct airing. Please keep all Direct spoilers in this thread to keep the nonspoiler crowd safe. If this is the last week and it drops on the 7th in particular, we won’t be getting the last planned weekly question, so just in case I do want to thank everyone who has been answering these! Y’all have really made the thread lively and opened up more excellent discussion :) Let’s roll into our next question now!

Week 6 - What new content do you expect to see and what would you like to see from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door? Are there any other upcoming remaster / remakes you hope will get some brand new content?

For my own answer, there’s so much potential here! I’m most expecting some kind of new epilogue adventure though who it will star and how long it will be exactly I’m not so sure. I think I’d most love to see another small adventure with Mario reuniting with his friends, so I’m going to hope for that most. A few new Super Bosses like Mario RPG would be very cool to have as well. Also, we need more Flavio. That’s important!

As for the other part of the question, I’m really looking forward to Final Fantasy VII Rebirth which sort of straddles the line between new game and remake. In the original game there’s a sequence where Cloud rides a dolphin a hundred feet in the air to continue his journey. That scene needs to be there and we also need a full new minigame revolving around the party riding dolphins for more goofy fun.
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I would like some stuff for new players like me who have never played it before. I can’t wait to try it for the first time

Also, @chocolate_supra ff7r is amazing. Can’t stress how great it is and I’m so excited for rebirth.
 
xghost777 said:
Week 6 - What new content do you expect to see and what would you like to see from Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door? Are there any other upcoming remaster / remakes you hope will get some brand new content?

For my own answer, there’s so much potential here! I’m most expecting some kind of new epilogue adventure though who it will star and how long it will be exactly I’m not so sure. I think I’d most love to see another small adventure with Mario reuniting with his friends, so I’m going to hope for that most. A few new Super Bosses like Mario RPG would be very cool to have as well. Also, we need more Flavio. That’s important!
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Honestly, I'd be pretty happy if they just had Mario reconnect with the characters from PM64, which were the best part of that game. It could come in the form of an epilogue, yeah.
 
Darknut85 said:
It‘s a bit pedantic but he said “…Fiscalyear ending March 2025…“. They only had to release one game in that fiscalyear for Switch to stay true to the statement. Of course Switch‘ll get more games, just saying.
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Anyway, yes, it will go beyond that, but my point was that I don't think there will be a long cross-gen period. I think the Switch will probably be supported for a full year after the Switch 2 sirtue, but no longer. If only because even less technically demanding games would be held back by staying on Switch 1. The developers of Wonder, for example, explained that it would not have been possible to make the same game without the improvements brought by the Switch.

I'm very curious to see how they will position the remasters/remakes. Wii U ports helped enormously to fuel the Switch 1 release schedule, and even being cross-gen, remasters will be important for the Switch 2 lifecycle.

They don't have a huge number of them available anymore, and there aren't many potential top-selling games left, so Nintendo will have to make good use of them.
 
boodream said:
Anyway, yes, it will go beyond that, but my point was that I don't think there will be a long cross-gen period. I think the Switch will probably be supported for a full year after the Switch 2 sirtue, but no longer. If only because even less technically demanding games would be held back by staying on Switch 1. The developers of Wonder, for example, explained that it would not have been possible to make the same game without the improvements brought by the Switch.

I'm very curious to see how they will position the remasters/remakes. Wii U ports helped enormously to fuel the Switch 1 release schedule, and even being cross-gen, remasters will be important for the Switch 2 lifecycle.

They don't have a huge number of them available anymore, and there aren't many potential top-selling games left, so Nintendo will have to make good use of them.
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Agree, I also don‘t think they‘ll have a extended crossgen.
 
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I hope we get a Direct next week, but at least we should know before the big sale on the eShop is over. If we don't hear anything it at least gives me time to buy a cheap game to hold me over for another week or two.
 
carbvan said:
The 3DS eshop has been down for months and there hasn't been news. If that had any bearing on Pokemon games being put on Switch, we'd have seen the results by now. I'm expecting them to sell the games for serious cash at some point, or even make a Pokemon tier of NSO because why not? They can get away with it after all.
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Ah, I meant the online functionalities l. My bad :D.
 
Don’t really know why I did the 6:00 AM Twitter refresh today, but it’s new Splatfest theme day.

 
We’re in February fully with our first tweet of the day, #TeamJanuary had a good run. Time to watch for smoke, leaks, and insiders. Hope next week is our week.
 
Cerlinho said:
Also, about Paper Mario TTYD. Please, please make Ms. Mowz BETTER.
Maybe give us a Boss Rush mode or something like that.
New badges? I'm in.
I really don't think we will get Luigi's side story, Sorry.
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Or even a New game + would be the dream although I find it very unlikely.

I’d also take another Pit of 100 trials.
 
Being honest, i would be fine with no Direct in Feb in favor for a Switch 2 announcement.

I just can't get excited for another Switch-only Direct (that's not a Mini or Partner Showcase) ... imo they've mostly started to scrape the barrel with the last one, despite having new announcements.

And the pessimist (or realist?) in me thinks that they might hold the Prime 4 unveiling back for the Switch 2 announcement, being a cross-gen game. Like wanting to show the game at it's best, while casually mentioning it's still coming to Switch 1 in the same sentence.
 
chocolate_supra said:
GIVE IT UP FOR JANUARY 32ND!!!
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You're right. Team January should give up

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3dsboss said:
I'm not sure if this is a question for here or another thread so I apologize in advance but I've been thinking about this question in relation to the possibility of the upcoming Nintendo Direct.

With the next Nintendo Direct possiblity revealing a lot of what we can expect for the Nintendo Switch for the year, I was wondering how far into the next console's generation that you all think the Nintendo Switch will get first-party support? I know there's been a lot of speculation related to how long the Switch would receive first-party support from Nintendo and, so, it's been something I've been thinking about in relation to what I think we'll see in this Nintendo Direct as well. I'm not very familiar with how long into each generation Nintendo keeps first party support for their consoles, but I feel like the range is usually around eight years (possibly outside of the GameBoy, GameBoy Color, and GameBoy Advance generations)?

The only generations I can remember off the top of my head are the DS and 3DS ones where I feel like they both were also around eight years with first-party support? I know a lot of people have talked about there being some time where Nintendo releases games for both the Nintendo Switch and their next generation console, with Metroid Prime 4 probably being the most commonly talked about example as a cross-generation game, and I also feel like their backwards compatibility plans also probably have a hand in whatever they decide. I just know the Nintendo Switch will be eight years old in March of 2025 so it's made me think a lot more about how long I personally think it would receive support after the next console releases.

I'm sorry for the really long post here and I apologize deeply once again if this isn't the proper thread to ask this question on. I am really interested into seeing what you all do have to say and/or the insight you all could provide as I don't feel like I also know a lot on this topic in general outside of more recent generations. For me, I'm really excited for the upcoming Nintendo Direct and it's been really great reading through this thread and seeing all your thoughts, hopes, and predictions as we (hopefully) come up to it very soon!! :)
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Well it's contingent on the success of the next thing and the commercial performance of the software that remains on the Switch.

If the next thing performs strongly (not necessarily Switch levels, but strong nonetheless) I imagine fairly regular releases in 2025 (though mostly of remakes/remasters) and then a dwindling in 2026. Nine years seems pretty good for a successful platform, and it would be more or less in line with those "halfway through" comments iirc. However, once the Switch 2 releases, I don't imagine any of these games will receive nearly as much marketing as the games on the current platform.

And people seem to be ascribing many potential titles to cross-releases, but I think they're overestimating how many will actually end up like that. Switch has been very successful, so I could see a few more than normal releasing, but cross-gen is typically uncommon for Nintendo, and I think that trend will continue even with Switch's success. I think each receiving first-party exclusives with fairly low crossover is likelier than a largely shared initial library.

Along with marketing that is very Switch 2-dominant, I think they'll want to establish a strong opening foothold for the system rather than a gradual migration, and that will entail limiting their own cross-releases, so as to incentivize the new thing.
 
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Cerlinho said:
I really don't think we will get Luigi's side story, Sorry.
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I'm not sure why people thought this was on the table in the first place. It's a really elaborate joke about Luigi being kind of a loser that ends up with him fighting a 10HP enemy as final boss. It'd have to be something entirely different for it to be anything worthwhile.
 
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