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Hopefully the existence of a main racing series on Switch 2 means that it'll get analog triggers.

Controversial take: Unless it’s a Sim-based Racer, analog triggers aren’t needed.

Don’t get me wrong, I think analog triggers provide more flexibility and such, but if we’re talking about arcade style racers, and typical shooters, digital triggers work fine.
 
I remember because someone made false rumours that Splatoon and Smash weren’t going to be new games, people refused to accept they were in actuality, new games.

Ahh yes.

Splstoon 1.5, how could we forget.

But it seemed like there were people that hoped the Switch would fail. Some people at that time were still pushing the, "Nintendo should go third party" agenda.
 
I've rarely seen a comment steeped this much in sarcasm. It's quite obvious it was a joke from the beginning.
 
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I am addicted to reading these threads from the past, last Christmas's thread was very chaotic. I hope NS2 will be released in 2024.
 
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Ahh yes.

Splstoon 1.5, how could we forget.

But it seemed like there were people that hoped the Switch would fail. Some people at that time were still pushing the, "Nintendo should go third party" agenda.

Switch is my favorite console ever and 2017 was gorgeous but imho that January presentation was poorly managed. Too much spoiled from switch trailer announcement and Arms sold as a Wii sport. Luckily they ended the presentation with the BEST TRAILER EVAH.
 
Switch is my favorite console ever and 2017 was gorgeous but imho that January presentation was poorly managed. Too much spoiled from switch trailer announcement and Arms sold as a Wii sport. Luckily they ended the presentation with the BEST TRAILER EVAH.
all the more reason not to do a live show
 
I found this, it seems to be from a Taiwanese who already leaked the existence of MH Wilds on a forum there before it was presented.
Now it seems to bring new leaks about Switch 2.

"Ridge Racer 8 will be a launch title for Switch 2 and is financed by Nintendo. The soundtrack is already finished.

MHWs on Switch2
Announcement about a presentation in March
A78C 8 core
RDR2 Day1 on Switch2
UFS 3.1
FSR2/FSR3/DLSS for Switch2
RR8 Day1 on Switch2"


Has this already been talked about?
What can we get from here? Will be real?
Because he leaked MH Wilds before it was released I have suspicions that it could be real.
 
I found this, it seems to be from a Taiwanese who already leaked the existence of MH Wilds on a forum there before it was presented.
Now it seems to bring new leaks about Switch 2.

"Ridge Racer 8 will be a launch title for Switch 2 and is financed by Nintendo. The soundtrack is already finished.

MHWs on Switch2
Announcement about a presentation in March
A78C 8 core
RDR2 Day1 on Switch2
UFS 3.1
FSR2/FSR3/DLSS for Switch2
RR8 Day1 on Switch2"


Has this already been talked about?
What can we get from here? Will be real?
Because he leaked MH Wilds before it was released I have suspicions that it could be real.
This has as much weight as the leak that was discussed prior, which is zero. When someone claims to know about the software slate from two different companies and knows about the hardware specs, then that's when you know that something is fishy.
 
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I found this, it seems to be from a Taiwanese who already leaked the existence of MH Wilds on a forum there before it was presented.
Now it seems to bring new leaks about Switch 2.

"Ridge Racer 8 will be a launch title for Switch 2 and is financed by Nintendo. The soundtrack is already finished.

MHWs on Switch2
Announcement about a presentation in March
A78C 8 core
RDR2 Day1 on Switch2
UFS 3.1
FSR2/FSR3/DLSS for Switch2
RR8 Day1 on Switch2"


Has this already been talked about?
What can we get from here? Will be real?
Because he leaked MH Wilds before it was released I have suspicions that it could be real.

Betting this is fake. Seems to be some sort of the typical "i know something" leaks. Plus, each of the A78C cores being three times a PS4's sounds maybe a bit too much? Though the Jaguars in it aren't really a tech marvel no more, not sure i believe this one.
 
I found this, it seems to be from a Taiwanese who already leaked the existence of MH Wilds on a forum there before it was presented.
Now it seems to bring new leaks about Switch 2.

"Ridge Racer 8 will be a launch title for Switch 2 and is financed by Nintendo. The soundtrack is already finished.

MHWs on Switch2
Announcement about a presentation in March
A78C 8 core
RDR2 Day1 on Switch2
UFS 3.1
FSR2/FSR3/DLSS for Switch2
RR8 Day1 on Switch2"


Has this already been talked about?
What can we get from here? Will be real?
Because he leaked MH Wilds before it was released I have suspicions that it could be real.
I have an incredible feeling this is a influencer on that side of the world trying to click bait their audience. This influencer probably reads these forums or listen to the influencers over here.

And that's another thing that bothers me, why cheap out? Why take the low road and say you know this or that or steal from other leakers? If was an influencer I would use my time to illustrate my imagination of what future series would look like on future platform. To me that's just as fun or even more than the actual leaks. I have seen one guy did it but I think he ended be a jerk... idk.
 
I have an incredible feeling this is a influencer on that side of the world trying to click bait their audience. This influencer probably reads these forums or listen to the influencers over here.

And that's another thing that bothers me, why cheap out? Why take the low road and say you know this or that or steal from other leakers? If was an influencer I would use my time to illustrate my imagination of what future series would look like on future platform. To me that's just as fun or even more than the actual leaks. I have seen one guy did it but I think he ended be a jerk... idk.
credibility is built on "getting things right". what you got wrong doesn't matter as long as you got some dubs in the bank. speculation doesn't build credibility, that has come come afterwards
 
I went back to the Switch presentation 2017 thread to remember the reactions on GAF...Oh my lord, I forgot how bad it is.

"March 3rd?" Wow, that's sooner than expected!
"$299?" Wow, DOA I can't believe Nintendo already fucked up this bad, I could get a PS4 for cheaper. DOA
"Paid Online?" Wow. DOA confirmed, I can't believe Nintendo would do this
"Region Free" I guess the one good thing...But still, $299 and paid online
" 2.5-6h battery life? DOA!!!"
"Hurry Nintendo get to the good stuff! or DOA!"
"Wow, no launch games other than Zelda, DOA"

I remembered why I don't follow the threads live and just watch the presentation, the second the conference is at a slower point and/or says something not everyone loves it it gets so negative.
Yeah, I’m expecting reactions to be the same.


I never understand why in these generic "buy a Switch" commercials that they make multiple times every year, they always use the same like 5-6 games over and over. Like do they think those that saw it back in 2017/2018 are gonna look at them selling the game game for the 11th time in 2023 and be like "That looks good, let me buy it"?

I agree. They should build up their new releases, maybe make a "Here's the gigantic lineup of diverse games we have that you'll love" commercial instead of showing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe for the billionth time or Odyssey
I think they’re advertising their Evergreens to people that haven’t gotten a Switch yet. Especially their more “senior” Evergreens, like BOTW and Odyssey. And those Evergreens are also launch titles that came out during the console’s first year, so you easily associate those games with the Switch (plus they could also work as gateway games to push them into the brands: BOTW > Link’s Awakening, Warriors games, TOTK; Odyssey > rest of Mario games)
 
I found this, it seems to be from a Taiwanese who already leaked the existence of MH Wilds on a forum there before it was presented.
Now it seems to bring new leaks about Switch 2.

"Ridge Racer 8 will be a launch title for Switch 2 and is financed by Nintendo. The soundtrack is already finished.

MHWs on Switch2
Announcement about a presentation in March
A78C 8 core
RDR2 Day1 on Switch2
UFS 3.1
FSR2/FSR3/DLSS for Switch2
RR8 Day1 on Switch2"


Has this already been talked about?
What can we get from here? Will be real?
Because he leaked MH Wilds before it was released I have suspicions that it could be real.
It's already been discussed and it's probably false
 
I'm sure if Grubb was for real, we also heard from Pyoro. Also the wording made it sure for me it's a joke. Also, a Sunday announcement just before Christmas? Eeeeeeh, I really doubt that.
Although obviously Grubb tweet is bullshit, I don't necessarily think this would be something we would have heard from Pyoro if it was for real.

Pyoro seems to have early access to Directs, and that's the extent of his insider connection.

Something like an announcement from Nintendo, I don't think Pyoro would be privy to.

This has as much weight as the leak that was discussed prior,

Isn't it exactly the same (baseless) leak?
 
I think they’re advertising their Evergreens to people that haven’t gotten a Switch yet. Especially their more “senior” Evergreens, like BOTW and Odyssey. And those Evergreens are also launch titles that came out during the console’s first year, so you easily associate those games with the Switch (plus they could also work as gateway games to push them into the brands: BOTW > Link’s Awakening, Warriors games, TOTK; Odyssey > rest of Mario games)
the weird thing about the commercial is that it looks like it was made back in 2021 and hasn't been released until now. it's just odd for them to use it now
 
credibility is built on "getting things right". what you got wrong doesn't matter as long as you got some dubs in the bank. speculation doesn't build credibility, that has come come afterwards
No, what I mean is instead of focusing on using leaks that aren't even yours to grow your audience, do something different. Like there are a few youtubers who just talk about the leaks instead of you know.... have fun. I was just giving example of what would be fun content.
 
Yeah, I’m expecting reactions to be the same.

If people freak out that the Switch 2 were $300 than they are trolling lol.

I posted a thread on Era a couple of months ago asking peoples realistic expectations were for the Switch 2 price and a majority of people are expecting at least $399 and are okay with it.

This is a big change from people who were saying if the Switch isn't $199 or $249 than it's DOA.
 
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Switch 1 in 2017 for $300 felt like a pretty good deal honestly, I was always surprised by the reactions. A portable PS3/360++ with an HD screen, wireless controllers, charging station - slash - HDMI out all included. Just really felt like a forward thinking device.
 
No, what I mean is instead of focusing on using leaks that aren't even yours to grow your audience, do something different. Like there are a few youtubers who just talk about the leaks instead of you know.... have fun. I was just giving example of what would be fun content.
I get what you mean, but these folks want their 15 mins. regurgitating stuff is easier
 
Switch 1 in 2017 for $300 felt like a pretty good deal honestly, I was always surprised by the reactions. A portable PS3/360++ with an HD screen, wireless controllers, charging station - slash - HDMI out all included. Just really felt like a forward thinking device.
The detractors would explicitly mention the “ps3/360” level device as being the sore point. Insinuating or directly stating a portable device releasing at that time should be PS4/X1 levels of capable. (For 300$ lol)

It was never a logical argument imo, the switch was and still is a pretty amazing device to me, given its limitations (form, power, etc). I still hold it in high regard!
 
Switch 1 in 2017 for $300 felt like a pretty good deal honestly, I was always surprised by the reactions. A portable PS3/360++ with an HD screen, wireless controllers, charging station - slash - HDMI out all included. Just really felt like a forward thinking device.
So, let's see....

-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option

...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.

Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.

Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.

No.
 
So, let's see....

-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option

...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.

Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.

Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.

No.
Legendary
 
So, let's see....

-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option

...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.

Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.

Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.

No.
They went hard…
 
I found this, it seems to be from a Taiwanese who already leaked the existence of MH Wilds on a forum there before it was presented.
Now it seems to bring new leaks about Switch 2.

"Ridge Racer 8 will be a launch title for Switch 2 and is financed by Nintendo. The soundtrack is already finished.

MHWs on Switch2
Announcement about a presentation in March
A78C 8 core
RDR2 Day1 on Switch2
UFS 3.1
FSR2/FSR3/DLSS for Switch2
RR8 Day1 on Switch2"


Has this already been talked about?
What can we get from here? Will be real?
Because he leaked MH Wilds before it was released I have suspicions that it could be real.
Unless capcom has had a dev kit for longer than we thought, I dont see Monster Hunter Wilds being on switch 2 day 1, perhaps a year later, however it is very clear that the game still needs a bit of baking, so who knows, but I would believe they are prioritizing the consoles already out in the public hands
 
Unless capcom has had a dev kit for longer than we thought, I dont see Monster Hunter Wilds being on switch 2 day 1, perhaps a year later, however it is very clear that the game still needs a bit of baking, so who knows, but I would believe they are prioritizing the consoles already out in the public hands
This would depend on how hard it is to port the engine over to the Switch 2.
Given what we've seen of MHWilds, it doesn't seem to be pulling any fancy tricks. Even if they don't have a dev kit yet for some wild reason (unlikely if it's launching within a year), it shouldn't take them anywhere close to a year to port over.
 
So, let's see....

-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option

...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.

Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.

Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.

No.
60 dollar game pricing

Oh if only they knew back then that would be the cheap price lol
 
This would depend on how hard it is to port the engine over to the Switch 2.
Given what we've seen of MHWilds, it doesn't seem to be pulling any fancy tricks. Even if they don't have a dev kit yet for some wild reason (unlikely if it's launching within a year), it shouldn't take them anywhere close to a year to port over.

NVN is reputable for being easy to work with (and so I presume will be the same for NVN2)

Agreed about devkit - Capcom is a major publisher. I would be quite surprised if they do not have Switch 2 devkit already by now.
 
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looks like Qualcomm wasn't the only one to get Lumen running on mobile. Mediatek and ARM also have it running. which implies to me that Epic already has tools in place for more low end optimization or are going to roll in work from Qualcomm/Mediatek



this is such a trash-ass demo, goddamn



and for fun, more mobile RT, since people still seem to doubt its scalability for some reason


 

Lollll.

Let's be honest we all wish this was true.



Agreed, I think it will keep the simple look but they will make it look different enough from the Switch.
a Switch sucessor anounced tommorow? this dont make sense, why would Nintendo anounce it next console on cristmas eve
 
So, let's see....

-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option

...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.

Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.

Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.

No.
And then Bread arrived and obscured these valid points on launch and forever.
 
So, let's see....

-Performance clearly superior to a Raspberry Pi 3, probably.
-Built-in storage enough for installing as many as 1-2 games
-Voice comm requiring the use of an app on your cell phone
-Paid subscription online service feature list competitive with Heat.net
-Peripheral pricing so high and bizarrely lopsided with the initial hardware bundle that it makes buying a second Switch for parts a sensible option

...that's pretty dire, but it's still a much more compelling product than the Wii U at first reveal, simply by virtue of being a handheld. Might be somewhat more successful than the Wii U since it's not trying to leverage a poorly thought out archaic tablet as a unique selling point this time, but the cost of ownership is looking astronomically high. It's arguably higher than the major console competition, given the peripheral pricing, anemic built-in storage, low value paid online, etc., so it's abandoning a lot of the appeal that would otherwise come with being a handheld.

Handheld form factor and performance, but with $60 game pricing, paid online, tiny storage, and obscene peripheral costs. Worst of both worlds, arguably, and the mediocre mobile SoC isn't going to do it any favors when people hook it up to their living room setups. I seriously doubt I'll want to stretch out Switch games onto my 75" 4K HDR TV.

Not exactly situated to take the market by storm with all that and a very thin launch lineup. Not something that's easy to root for as a consumer, either, since Nintendo loaded up on anti-consumer business decisions here. It's telling that first shipment pre-orders are still available.

No.
Nintendoomed.

They should just release their games to PC, Breath of the Wild is a dud and is being held back by the WIiU and Switch's weaker than PS360 hardware and battery constraints. /s

Those are some serious memories and 2017 was a slightly less hard year than 2016 for me.
 
Although obviously Grubb tweet is bullshit, I don't necessarily think this would be something we would have heard from Pyoro if it was for real.

Pyoro seems to have early access to Directs, and that's the extent of his insider connection.

Something like an announcement from Nintendo, I don't think Pyoro would be privy to.
While that is true, on the other hand, he did leak the Another Code Demo, which was not a Direct thing.
And thus it's curious to me if he would have Switch 2 info.
 
Remasters on a backwards compatible console, that's historically not gone well. If anything this could see them double down on free upgrades, because as soon as someone jams this thing into their Switch 2, it phones home for the update, gets told it's a pirate cart, and bricks itself.
Well, PS4 to PS5 seem to have done ok.
 
I agree it’s not something like new hardware leaks but working flash carts for switch are kind of a big deal, no?

This thing skyrocketted ds sales, but sink software sales, in the last year of the switch this thing could really help keep selling the system. And put some speed to the new hardware release.
 
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