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carbvan said:
Speaking of birds, Nate hasn't been around much the past 2 days has he? A bunch of stuff has happened too. At the very least I expect his disappointed reaction to the media picking up the NG Switch fake leak again.
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Nah, nothing at all really has happened. At best we've gotten a bit more corroboration about the T239 timeline that we already knew about.
 
carbvan said:
Speaking of birds, Nate hasn't been around much the past 2 days has he? A bunch of stuff has happened too. At the very least I expect his disappointed reaction to the media picking up the NG Switch fake leak again.
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Yeah, it's really picking up steam based on Twitter feed (you can use "switch 2" keyword in search, and sort by "Latest". Unfortunately, it will create a population that is firm in belief September 2024 is the release month, $400 and $450 price points, NG is the codename, etc. Even if those same websites/YTers correct themselves, the deed has been done.

It's okay, all that isn't going to matter once Switch 2 is announced, revealed, launched, bought, and is in our hands!

Skittzo said:
Nah, nothing at all really has happened. At best we've gotten a bit more corroboration about the T239 timeline that we already knew about.
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I thought it was narrowed/slimmed down (even if only slightly)? As in the actual dates of shipments (particularly entries with "Carpa X1" in text) were not known until recently. Mind you I am newer here so I don't know the full extent of what y'all know already here.

But yeah, other that that, I guess it's good that the T239 timeline received even more corroboration, strengthening it.
 
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ziggyrivers said:
Those September and November dates, plus the codename thing, all subtract credence from the rumor.

Versus speculation based on data found by P4blo.
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To be fair, while some of the findings are interesting, any conclusions made with that data should be taken with a grain of salt. Others here have already poked some holes in the data, some of which being Switch 1-related.
 
carbvan said:
Speaking of birds, Nate hasn't been around much the past 2 days has he? A bunch of stuff has happened too. At the very least I expect his disappointed reaction to the media picking up the NG Switch fake leak again.
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Nate, like many of us, is having trouble keeping up with the thread, and is keeping his head out when he doesn't have anything specific to add.
 
Giancarlo said:
i already saw some media/youtu be reporting in this rumor
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This is old-hat for most smaller/clickbait outlets. Try and find a niche source, leak, rumour or speculation, post it to the front page under an extreme headline and watch the money flow. Frankly, I'd be amazed if most of these outlets were in business if people didn't post stuff like this.
My fault for giving WCCF material ig... 😔
 
SoldierDelta said:
There is a certain kind of disappointment that comes with non-answers like that. Is a paragraph that hard?
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It's just really annoying. People shouldn't be able to waste page space with nothing statements for the sake of provocation and then go non-verbal whenever they have nothing else to troll about.
 
Giancarlo said:
i already saw some media/youtube reporting in this rumor
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Not surprising
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I’ve been away for quite a few pages, so many that I’m not even sure of the number.

However, what is this research that Pablo has supposedly done? Did I just read that it cost a huge amount to get access to it (hence it hasn’t been corroborated)?
 
Neoxon said:
So are they dismissing the dates because they aren’t Fridays or do they know the month Nintendo is launching the Switch 2 & it’s neither September nor November?
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According to the translation, Necro shared the thought that the day of the week that the rumour's date lines up with doesn't make sense. 24th of September being a Tuesday.

I don't believe Necro knows the precise date, but I think the current guesses for release month are either March-May or some time in September or November. Those are the current ones that I think people leak...
 
Neoxon said:
So are they dismissing the dates because they aren’t Fridays or do they know the month Nintendo is launching the Switch 2 & it’s neither September nor November?
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no, Necrolipe listed other reasons too. He also said nobody would know date that far in advance (a year later), not even Nintendo.

Listed those:

  • No one in their right mind would have so much launch information such as price, date and SKUs a year before
  • Dates do not match Nintendo hardware releases
  • The codename "NG" is fake
 
darthdiablo said:
no, Necrolipe listed other reasons too. He also said nobody would know date that far in advance (a year later), not even Nintendo.

Listed those:

  • No one in their right mind would have so much launch information such as price, date and SKUs a year before
  • Dates do not match Nintendo hardware releases
  • The codename "NG" is fake
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See, that’s understandable
 
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Josh5890 said:
I am so glad that Nintendo moved away from Sunday releases for games and consoles. Sometimes it was a pain if the store didn't put out their copies and I had to ask for help. Don't get me wrong, I have all the respect in the world for retail employees as I've done it, but the last thing some poor minimum wage kid needed from me in the middle of a busy Sunday morning was asking to look in the back for something.
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Jesus doesn't want you playing games on Sunday and Nintendo listened.
 
hologram said:
Here was my thought process over the last few minutes:
  • Hey we're approaching page 2000
  • I should ask if we're doing a party again
  • Hmm what was my wording last time
  • Look for post
  • Wait I can just quote it
So I guess like... five minutes?
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That is the weirdest version of the five stages of grief that I've seen in a long time...
 
I respect the fake leak for trying to at least put some tangible stuff out there like launch date, launch price, and planned skus. Stuff like that is far more interesting to discuss then Nintendo ordered extra speakers from a factory in China.
 
As far as I'm concerned, it's safest right now to dismiss all rumors, and use the best guess of sometime between March and November of 2024. As time goes on without an announcement, that pushes back March. I think once we hit Jan 1, March is out of the game.
 
SoldierDelta said:
. I get why developers and leakers hate journalists now, them mfers just straight lie sometimes.
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The term "journalists" is a stretch and overapplied to people and sites who just aggregate or post stuff carbon copied from somewhere else. Anybody can have a website these days, posting on one doesn't make them a journalist.
 
BassForever said:
I respect the fake leak for trying to at least put some tangible stuff out there like launch date, launch price, and planned skus. Stuff like that is far more interesting to discuss then Nintendo ordered extra speakers from a factory in China.
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I've got things to ponder about where I got the rumour from.

Regardless, that's mainly why I was happy to post about it. I was just kinda bored from the stagnation in "fun" discussion that's been in the industry for a while. That, and I wanted to check if there was literally any basis to it.

Then again, if I knew about the shipment leaks that would've also be a fine thing to discuss. Too many things happen at once sometimes huh...
 
bmfrosty said:
As far as I'm concerned, it's safest right now to dismiss all rumors, and use the best guess of sometime between March and November of 2024. As time goes on without an announcement, that pushes back March. I think once we hit Jan 1, March is out of the game.
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If the system is launching in March then we are going to have a reveal in the next 6ish weeks. Once you get to the week Thanksgiving I think we can dismiss any real chance of a hardware reveal and launch happening this fiscal year.
 
SoldierDelta said:
Just need to be careful about how my information spreads. I also need to double check in the future that WCCFTECH doesn't fucking crop the fact I said it's a rumour in the original post. I get why developers and leakers hate journalists now, them mfers just straight lie sometimes.
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And every YTuber is calling it a "leak" despite you framing it as a rumor. Rumor doesn't tend to bring as much attention, as rumor carries the connotation it may not be 100% accurate and one must prepare for the possibility of the info being wrong/false. "Leak" has people think it's 100% correct, thus brings in more attention.

The info has now been circulate and become a "truth" for many & will forever be part of the leak conversation. You could post an update saying, "I have doubts about this info now" and it wouldn't make a difference.
 
BassForever said:
I respect the fake leak for trying to at least put some tangible stuff out there like launch date, launch price, and planned skus. Stuff like that is far more interesting to discuss then Nintendo ordered extra speakers from a factory in China.
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Sorry but obviously fake rumors is not at all remotely interesting.

Real info/rumors rarely look "interesting" when they are first discovered. Like those nvidia github commits for example.

Usually to build a puzzle, it has to be collection of boring, mundane details that doesn't seem like much, but when combined with other bits.. it's the culmination of what we know so far that this thread has done a good job of (mostly that happened before I became a member here).
 
bmfrosty said:
As far as I'm concerned, it's safest right now to dismiss all rumors, and use the best guess of sometime between March and November of 2024. As time goes on without an announcement, that pushes back March. I think once we hit Jan 1, March is out of the game.
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Imo, if we get to January and we get no announcement, that honestly rules out a release date all the way until May. I don't remember any specifics, but doesn't mass-production take 5 months? Unless we get a solid leak about the Switch 2 starting that production scale, we cannot be certain about the release date. Frankly, if we don't get a teaser this month, we can almost throw March out the window.
 
Re: knowing price, SKU and release that far up:
• I presume we’ll know how many SKUs we’ll have once they start manufacturing the Switch 2 per se. Like how the iPhones and PS5 Slim leaked. That specific knowledge at this point in time would be veeeeery unlikely. I presume the only people briefed on this are Furukawa, executives and whatever small team of employees they have in Japan. So I doubt someone leaked inside Japan and then another person kept leaking until it reached international waters

• Price: This is easily something they can slap at the last minute, but will most certainly be decided by the time they open pre orders

• Release date will be decided once they’re sure how many units they can produce and when to start selling them

By the way, I would like to add that maybe there really will be two SKUs, but it could be the case of someone guessing what the second SKU is all about. Maybe it’ll be like the OG Switch: two colors
 
bmfrosty said:
As far as I'm concerned, it's safest right now to dismiss all rumors, and use the best guess of sometime between March and November of 2024. As time goes on without an announcement, that pushes back March. I think once we hit Jan 1, March is out of the game.
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January 1 is too late. By their earnings in the first week of November if there’s no announcement nothing is coming in March then.
 
BassForever said:
I respect the fake leak for trying to at least put some tangible stuff out there like launch date, launch price, and planned skus. Stuff like that is far more interesting to discuss then Nintendo ordered extra speakers from a factory in China.
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Not when you've read/skimmed through/eyes-glazed-scrolled-past hundreds of pages of discussions on those topics.

Give me shipping manifests to pick apart over that regurgitation.
 
NateDrake said:
And every YTuber is calling it a "leak" despite you framing it as a rumor. Rumor doesn't tend to bring as much attention, as rumor carries the connotation it may not be 100% accurate and one must prepare for the possibility of the info being wrong/false. "Leak" has people think it's 100% correct, thus brings in more attention.
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Gods teeth.

Welp, at least I learned a lesson there. That's what I get.
Maybe next time I should just randomly say "By the way, it's a rumour" between every other line of text, maybe that'll solve the issue. It won't, but at least there's a bigger piece of armour for people who actually care about leaks.

sigh
 
SoldierDelta said:
Gods teeth.

Welp, at least I learned a lesson there. That's what I get.
Maybe next time I should just randomly say "By the way, it's a rumour" between every other line of text, maybe that'll solve the issue. It won't, but at least there's a bigger piece of armour for people who actually care about leaks.

sigh
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We live in a numbers world. It’s a rat race. No matter what you say many will spin or frame how they want for money. It is what it is. Either people want to be a leaker or put rumors out there or don’t do it.
 
ziggyrivers said:
By the way, I would like to add that maybe there really will be two SKUs, but it could be the case of someone guessing what the second SKU is all about. Maybe it’ll be like the OG Switch: two colors
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For all intents and purposes, the rumour, as it was told to me, never said it like this. I can assume that, assuming they were being honest (Devil's Blind Advocate), they were "confident" in the digital/physical SKUs. However you're probably right about the multiple colours. I would wonder if the seperate SKUs would come with different colours (say pure black for the physical, white for the digital). Idk, fun to think about.
 
SoldierDelta said:
Gods teeth.

Welp, at least I learned a lesson there. That's what I get.
Maybe next time I should just randomly say "By the way, it's a rumour" between every other line of text, maybe that'll solve the issue. It won't, but at least there's a bigger piece of armour for people who actually care about leaks.

sigh
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In truth, if the info is questionable & you feel like it would add "fun" to a discussion, present it as speculation. While some clowns will cling to it and report it as a leak or rumor, most will note it being presented as speculation & treat it as such.

Otherwise, it's best to sit on the info, maybe try to verify the claims further or only discuss it amongst a small group of trusted people on the condition it isn't shared publicly.
 
No TGS leaks is a little disappointing.

RE cheaper digital model rumors

Yes, a model with no cart slot would save Nintendo almost no money or space.

Would they still launch it at $50 less? Actually yes. Nintendo does not want you to buy physical games. Losing $50 upfront and getting 6 more digital purchases might be worth it (especially if it leads those consumers to not buy physically moving forward
 
NateDrake said:
And every YTuber is calling it a "leak" despite you framing it as a rumor. Rumor doesn't tend to bring as much attention, as rumor carries the connotation it may not be 100% accurate and one must prepare for the possibility of the info being wrong/false. "Leak" has people think it's 100% correct, thus brings in more attention.

The info has now been circulate and become a "truth" for many & will forever be part of the leak conversation. You could post an update saying, "I have doubts about this info now" and it wouldn't make a difference.
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled.
 
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BassForever said:
If the system is launching in March then we are going to have a reveal in the next 6ish weeks. Once you get to the week Thanksgiving I think we can dismiss any real chance of a hardware reveal and launch happening this fiscal year.
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SoldierDelta said:
Imo, if we get to January and we get no announcement, that honestly rules out a release date all the way until May. I don't remember any specifics, but doesn't mass-production take 5 months? Unless we get a solid leak about the Switch 2 starting that production scale, we cannot be certain about the release date. Frankly, if we don't get a teaser this month, we can almost throw March out the window.
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Dark Cloud said:
January 1 is too late. By their earnings in the first week of November if there’s no announcement nothing is coming in March then.
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I'm not saying that January 1st will be reasonable. I'm saying that's when I knock out March. If you think that's when it knocks out April or May, that's reasonable too.

We're already at everyone knows it's coming. I'm thinking about when Target and Walmart know when it's coming.

So in my mind, I think a date in March becoming public knowledge in December is like the absolute latest. Honestly, if it's March, I'd expect to hear it before Thanksgiving. Probably this month though.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
No TGS leaks is a little disappointing.

RE cheaper digital model rumors

Yes, a model with no cart slot would save Nintendo almost no money or space.

Would they still launch it at $50 less? Actually yes. Nintendo does not want you to buy physical games.
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Nothing from TGS probably means there just wasn’t any new info.
 
NateDrake said:
In truth, if the info is questionable & you feel like it would add "fun" to a discussion, present it as speculation. While some clowns will cling to it and report it as a leak or rumor, most will note it being presented as speculation & treat it as such.

Otherwise, it's best to sit on the info, maybe try to verify the claims further or only discuss it amongst a small group of trusted people on the condition it isn't shared publicly.
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Good note for the future.

Granted, it'll likely mean vetting info a lot better and sitting on info until more people get a hold of it, but it's a sacrifice one should make.

Que sera sera.
 
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