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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

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Skittzo said:
March release makes way more sense than a reveal.

Why would Nintendo be telling tons of people when they plan to reveal it, 6 months before the fact?
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People in attendance would need to know how long they have to keep quiet etc.

Might have just been someone even asked 'when do you plan to reveal?' and Nintendo said 'around March next year'.
 
ILikeFeet said:
a march release would mean that a reveal is within a couple of months. if anything I don't think it'll happen before Mario Wonder's release
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I would guess it would be sometime in the middle of November.

That way, the can "grab" parts of the early holiday sales.
 
Interesting.
Now our technicians will analyze what Nate said word by word.

p.s. even a nice recap wouldn't hurt for clarity 😅
 
Alright, so instant load times and 4K/60s for BOTW in the meantime, roughly the expectations... Identical or superior raytracing for the Matrix though? Holy shit, I didn't expect less from an Nvidia SoC.
 
YolkFolk said:
People in attendance would need to know how long they have to keep quiet etc.

Might have just been someone even asked 'when do you plan to reveal?' and Nintendo said 'around March next year'.
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If you plan to have demos (if its a full on presentation and not just a 3 minute video), or even footage ready for announcement, you need to have your game ready to be at that point ahead of time, and we know planning for those types of builds (ie, e3 demos) takes a pretty decent amount of planning ahead of time.
 
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YolkFolk said:
People in attendance would need to know how long they have to keep quiet etc.

Might have just been someone even asked 'when do you plan to reveal?' and Nintendo said 'around March next year'.
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Developers wouldn't need to know that. That's something you tell to executives, or marketing departments so that they can prepare announcements or whatever.

I don't think that's something Nintendo would share to developers, if these were indeed developer focused presentations. Unless they have an in-person conference planned and people need to make travel plans? But I doubt that's the case, it will be a video reveal I'm sure.
 
IF it's going to be revealed this year I expect it to be after Mario RPG is out at least. Since that seems to be the last big release for them this year atm
 
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Lancelot said:
Alright, so instant load times and 4K/60s for BOTW in the meantime, roughly the expectations... Identical or superior raytracing for the Matrix though? Holy shit, I didn't expect less from an Nvidia SoC.
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Nintendo to nVidia: "Hey, remember how your fault enabled the most fucked-up pirating on the Switch? Yes? Anyway, we want something good, real good, and we want it for cheap."
 
ILikeFeet said:
This is definitely an important piece of context that we are missing. Was this native or BC, because the latter would be the important thing we're all waiting on confirmation on. Given that the leakers haven't spoken on whether or not it was Switch code or native code, I assume Nintendo said nothing about that and just wanted to focus on pixel pushing over the Switch
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Yeah, you’re right. It’s the game most people are familiar with ties to the switch, so it makes sense for them to show the differences with the new machine. It’s probably has nothing to do with BC. It’s still curious they decided to show BOTW with improved performance and graphics.
 
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Bonejack said:
Hudson will have a new travelling employee, but not for putting up signs, but telling you the load screen tips.
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I thought you meant, like Hudson Soft.

Because their rise to fame was in fact due to an employee, who traveled Japan to tell people gaming tips.

I just want Hudson Soft back...
 
Skittzo said:
Developers wouldn't need to know that. That's something you tell to executives, or marketing departments so that they can prepare announcements or whatever.

I don't think that's something Nintendo would share to developers, if these were indeed developer focused presentations. Unless they have an in-person conference planned and people need to make travel plans? But I doubt that's the case, it will be a video reveal I'm sure.
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Where do you think this March 2024 chat is coming from?

It's coming because it was discussed by Nintendo with developers in relation to a release or reveal.
 
Maybe March will be a conference, akin to the January 2017 conference. January 2024 reveal, March 2024 conference, May/June release?
 
Skittzo said:
Maybe March will be a conference, akin to the January 2017 conference. January 2024 reveal, March 2024 conference, May/June release?
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That's my guess.

No successor will come this FY, they don't need it and their financials don't allude to that in the slightest.

March reveal and June release would do great on the other hand.
 
Skittzo said:
... they would need to tell developers when it's launching because their games will need to be ready then.
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Are you sure you're not just thinking that because you really want it to launch in March 2024?

Not many (none) developers finding out about Switch 2 in September 2023 and going to have games ready for March 2024.

It sounds like Nate isn't sure if a release or reveal was clarified with regards to a launch month, so you cannot be so sure.

At this point Nintendo might not even know a launch date 100% but they will be near certain of a reveal period.
 
Lelouch0612 said:
That's my guess.

No successor will come this FY, they don't need it and their financials don't allude to that in the slightest.

March reveal and June release would do great on the other hand.
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Ah yes, the Sega Saturn.

The problem is Reveal would have to occur at latest right before Production start.

so March -> June would only be 3mos of production, and also have the major wrinkle of

"Oh yeah don't worry about us spending a fuckton of money right at the end of the FY without disclosing that we planned to, it's fine"

Same with April being a major uptick in spending with very little forwarning at the top of the FY if they start in April.

Trying to assume a Production Start in December/January runs into it being extremely odd/slow to start due to Holidays.

The most likely window for Production Start, ergo announcement, assuming 1H 2024, is This Fall.
 
Lugia667 said:
anyways do we believe botw is optimized BC or a whole new port of the game?
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Personally, I'm thinking somewhere in between. A port based on the Switch version that they're going to patch on retail systems rather than do a re-release.
 
YolkFolk said:
Are you sure you're not just thinking that because you really want it to launch in March 2024?

Not many (none) developers finding out about Switch 2 in September 2023 and going to have games ready for March 2024.

It sounds like Nate isn't sure if a release or reveal was clarified with regards to a launch month, so you cannot be so sure.

At this point Nintendo might not even know a launch date 100% but they will be near certain of a reveal period.
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I'm sorry but that last line makes no sense. That's not how this industry works, you don't reveal a product without knowing when you plan to launch it.

I don't care personally when it launches, and like I just said above I think May or June is pretty likely too. I'm saying that there is little logic behind the idea that Nintendo is telling developers when they plan to do a first reveal of the console.

I'd prefer it if you try not to ascribe personal expectations or desires to any of my arguments, I've made it abundantly clear in the past that I do my speculation based on data and evidence and not anything I personally want.
 
Multiverse said:
Yeah, you’re right. It’s the game most people are familiar with tied to the switch, so it makes sense for them to show the differences with the new machine. It’s probably has nothing to do with BC. It’s still curious they decided to show BOTW with improved performance and graphics.
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I don't think it's anything more than BotW was a completed and archived game. as you said, it's one people are familiar with, so folks can more easily recall aspects that Nintendo intends to compare. and EPD is right next to the hardware team, reducing chances of leaking
 
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Not sure what to think about the reveal/release date, but i'm guessing they're going to tease the Switch 2 this year still at something like the TGAs, with a full reveal on March 2024 and then a release later down the line, maybe towards Spring. Or they might just do the Switch route and reveal it this year, but i don't know how that would do for the games they've currently announced already.
 
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