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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST6| It’s Prime Time For Some More Wonderful Speculation! (Spoiler Crowd, Remain In This Thread Until The Direct Ends!)

What Metroid Prime Games Are Showing Up At The Next Nintendo Direct?

  • Metroid Prime 4! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2 and 3! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2 and 4! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2, 3, and 4! I #trusttheprocess.

  • No Numbered Games, But Something New And / Or Cool! I #trusttheprocess.

  • I #trusttheprocess, but it will test us with nothing for now.

  • The process has forsaken us and I have forsaken it.

  • Only Metroid Prime Federation Force HD For Some Reason.

  • Just A Random JPEG Of Sylux In HD.

  • Nothing, Not Even Metroid Prime Pinball. Crocomire Is Still Dead. Just Endless Despair.

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AlwaysOnDeck said:
The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises, and under 2 million for even more, isn't exactly something that would boost confidence.

Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Metroid
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Literally not a single one of those is under 3 million. And the rest you listed are hypothetical Switch games. That's an amazing comment.
 
ghostboltz said:
Xenoblade should die so Golden Sun can return
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AngryAlchemist said:
Literally not a single one of those is under 3 million. And the rest you listed are hypothetical Switch games. That's an amazing comment.
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Pikmin 3, Metroid Dread, and Fire Emblem 3 Houses are all either JUST over 3 million, or at 3 million (i believe Three Houses sold 4, even, actually), which LITERALLY equates to slightly over 2% of Switch owners.

To my knowledge, Pikmin 4 hasn't sold 3 million yet, and I don't think Fire Emblem Engage did 2 million. Metroid Prime Remastered DEFINITELY didn't do 3 million.

I get that you want things you like to succeed, but you can't go around making numbers up and then acting like they are accurate.
 
AlwaysOnDeck said:
The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises, and under 2 million for even more, isn't exactly something that would boost confidence.

Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Metroid, and theoretically Star Fox and F-Zero, are still very much niche franchises that haven't caught on (and won't catch on) with more than 2% of Switch owners.
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Pikmin 4 is tracking pretty well so far, especially in Japan (which should help carry it quite a bit). It’ll at least easily surpass 3 Deluxe as the series best seller when we get numbers in November. Some series have ceilings and that’s alright, expectations will also vary for these series. Maybe Engage is a disappointment for dropping relative to Three Houses (which has passed 4m), but that’s just one example.

Before last year Kirby would be batched in with these series, the original written off as a one-time outlier, but a jump to 3D broke through that ceiling.
 
AlwaysOnDeck said:
Pikmin 3, Metroid Dread, and Fire Emblem 3 Houses are all either JUST over 3 million, or at 3 million, which LITERALLY equates to slightly over 2% of Switch owners.

To my knowledge, Pikmin 4 hasn't sold 3 million yet, and I don't think Fire Emblem Engage did 2 million.
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You said "The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises, and under 2 million for even more" and then listed not a single franchise from the Switch where its record sales are under 3 million, let alone 2 million. "Record sales" don't meant the second best selling game on a console in a series(FE Engage/MPR/Pikmin 3 etc), it means its record sales. There's no way to spin this - you're just wrong.
 
MondoMega said:
Pikmin 4 is tracking pretty well so far, especially in Japan (which should help carry it quite a bit). It’ll at least easily surpass 3 Deluxe as the series best seller when we get numbers in November. Some series have ceilings and that’s alright, expectations will also vary for these series. Maybe Engage is a disappointment for dropping relative to Three Houses (which has passed 4m), but that’s just one example.

Before last year Kirby would be batched in with these series, the original written off as a one-time outlier, but a jump to 3D broke through that ceiling.
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I remembered 3 Houses did 4, immediately after sending, and edited. Thank you for confirming.
 
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AngryAlchemist said:
You said "The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises, and under 2 million for even more" and then listed not a single franchise from the Switch where its record sales are under 3 million, let alone 2 million. "Record sales" don't meant the second best selling game on a console in a series(FE Engage/MPR/Pikmin 3 etc), it means its record sales. There's no way to spin this - you're just wrong.
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The link with the Nintendo first-party sales numbers was going around earlier. The list of games UNDER 2 million was A LOT longer than the list of ANY OTHER number.

That LITERALLY means ""record sales remaining under 3 million for many franchises and under 2 million for even more."
 
AlwaysOnDeck said:
The link with the Nintendo first-party sales numbers was going around earlier. The lost of games UNDER 2 million was A LOT longer than the list of ANY OTHER number.

That LITERALLY means ""record sales remaining under 3 million for many franchises and under 2 million for even more."
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No, it doesn't.

Record sales mean the highest selling sales for a franchise in a given context. You even acknowledge this in your own comment:
"The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises"

Record sales for Metroid and Fire Emblem, two franchises you listed, are above 3m+ on Switch, and Pikmin 4 is going to vastly outsell 3D which was already at 2.3 million. It would be disingenuous at this point to even list Pikmin.

Again - there's no way to spin this. You are just wrong. If you want to say the follow up sales have been disappointing for titles like Engage or MPR, fine, say that. But the record sales definitely aren't below 3M.
 
AngryAlchemist said:
No, it doesn't.

Record sales mean the highest selling sales for a franchise in a given context. You even acknowledge this in your own comment:
"The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises"

Record sales for Metroid and Fire Emblem, two franchises you listed, are above 3m+ on Switch, and Pikmin 4 is going to vastly outsell 3D which was already at 2.3 million. It would be disingenuous at this point to even list Pikmin.

Again - there's no way to spin this. You are just wrong. If you want to say the follow up sales have been disappointing for titles like Engage or MPR, fine, say that. But the record sales definitely aren't below 3M.
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I'm not arguing semantics on a message board. What you are writing does not negate what I wrote. Have a good night.

3 million = just over 2% of Switch owners, "no matter how you try to spin it" lol
 
ghostboltz said:
Like Nintendo cares :(

This is a joke people, no one come for me lol
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Oh, I know. I've been wanting more Golden Sun, since I first played in 2015. But we ain't sacrificing my baby for that!!!!! 😭

Seriously, though, I think we might see it again sooner rather than later. Camelot has (hopefully) fulfilled their Mario sports quota for the Switch and we don't know what they're working on, right now. This may sound like massive copium, but I feel certain about this.
 
D36 said:
Oh, I know. I've been wanting more Golden Sun, since I first played in 2015. But we ain't sacrificing my baby for that!!!!! 😭

Seriously, though, I think we might see it again sooner rather than later. Camelot has (hopefully) fulfilled their Mario sports quota for the Switch and we don't know what they're working on, right now. This may sound like massive copium, but I feel certain about this.
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I LOVE Xenoblade by the way guys! Golden Sun could be amazing again... Did that New IP by Grezzo get revealed yet? The one in the job posts on their website?
 
Meh, I wouldn't really call a franchise like FE doing 4m+ (or even 3m+ in Metroid's case) "niche", much less compare them to freaking Star Fox and F-Zero of all things lol.

And even mega sellers like Mario Kart and Animal Crossing technically don't sell to the majority of the Switch install base, so even if FE is proportionally small compared to the entire Switch install base, I don't think it's fair to call it "niche". I mean, what if the Switch install base was something crazy like 2.5 billion? Then Mario Kart and AC would only equal two percent of the install base, yet calling these 50 million seller IP's "niche" because of that would be ridiculous.
 
Raccoon said:
Pikmin is like 18 months from being the second most mainstream Nintendo franchise worldwide
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Over Animal Crossing and Splatoon? OVER ZELDA???? Well, the entire Pikmin series (sans Hey! Pikmin, but meh) on Switch and I definitely see it breaking records, but still.
 
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I feel like they need to move on from Xenoblade franchise. It's not gonna be a big name ever. It keeps locking them to this specific idea too. It's not gonna be a final fantasy. Just do something else. Do a big rpg spinoff for nintendo or an action rpg. If we have to keep Xenoblade, do an action rpg.
 
MondoMega said:
Pikmin 4 is tracking pretty well so far, especially in Japan (which should help carry it quite a bit). It’ll at least easily surpass 3 Deluxe as the series best seller when we get numbers in November. Some series have ceilings and that’s alright, expectations will also vary for these series.
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AlwaysOnDeck said:
I'm not arguing semantics on a message board. What you are writing does not negate what I wrote. Have a good night.

3 million = just over 2% of Switch owners, "no matter how you try to spin it" lol
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Why did you edit your comment if you aren't going to argue semantics? (It doesn't show you edited it because you did it quickly, but you clearly did).

You can't have it both ways - am I arguing semantics or are you literally right? Because those ideas contradict each other.

Your own comments says that lists Fire Emblem and Metroid as examples, which is just wrong, and Pikmin which is soon to be wrong. All those have or will hit 3m+. You used "not more than 2%" dude, not me. So the fact that you're wrong on both figures, both of which you picked, is not my problem. I really wouldn't have had a problem if you just said sales weren't impressive in general, or that the follow ups declines are bad. I'm just saying, you are literally wrong.
 
Tyrien said:
I feel like they need to move on from Xenoblade franchise. It's not gonna be a big name ever. It keeps locking them to this specific idea too. It's not gonna be a final fantasy. Just do something else. Do a big rpg spinoff for nintendo or an action rpg. If we have to keep Xenoblade, do an action rpg.
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Your right to an opinion has been revoked...
 
Tyrien said:
I feel like they need to move on from Xenoblade franchise. It's not gonna be a big name ever. It keeps locking them to this specific idea too. It's not gonna be a final fantasy. Just do something else. Do a big rpg spinoff for nintendo or an action rpg. If we have to keep Xenoblade, do an action rpg.
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Xenoblade has consistently sold over a million units, since 2 and Monolith Soft have more plans for the series going forward. It's not going anywhere and it doesn't need to be a Final Fantasy.
 
AlwaysOnDeck said:
The fact that "record sales" remains under 3 million for many franchises, and under 2 million for even more, isn't exactly something that would boost confidence.

Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Metroid, and theoretically Star Fox and F-Zero, are still very much niche franchises that haven't caught on (and won't catch on) with more than 2% of Switch owners.
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I think people can forget that, while many of Nintendo's biggest franchises routinely sell 10-20 million and can even not-infrequently hit 40-50 million ... 1-to-3 million sales is still nothing to sneeze at (especially for full-priced $60 exclusives that will never see bargain bin price drops). Not everything can do, or needs to do, Luigi's Mansion 3 numbers.

Many non-Nintendo games we think of as big and iconic would kill to sell in the 1-to-3 million range as easily and as consistently as some of Nintendo's B- and C-listers can. Heck, managing to hit 5 million can often be outright "break out the champagne and put out a press release bragging about it" numbers for a lot of series.
 
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Brofield said:
Honestly, if Golden Sun fans can believe their game franchise can return, I don't see how Custom Robo's return is any less possible.
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Please give a new Custom Robo nintendo. Armored Core 6 has shown that there's a big interest in the premise, at least.
 
BlackthornOrion said:
I think people can forget that, while many of Nintendo's biggest franchises routinely sell 10-20 million and can even not-infrequently hit 40-50 million ... 1-to-3 million sales is still nothing to sneeze (especially for full-priced $60 exclusives that will never see bargain bin price drops). Not everything can do, or needs to do, Luigi's Mansion 3 numbers.

Many non-Nintendo games we think of as big and iconic would kill to sell in the 1-to-3 million range as easily and as consistently as some of Nintendo's B- and C-listers can. Heck, managing to hit 5 million can often be outright "break out the champagne and put out a press release bragging about it" numbers for a lot of series.
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I don't think there are any big or iconic non-Nintendo games that

1. Still have games made
2. Sell less than 2m copies

Mega Man has never broken 2m I think... But Mega Man is also a mostly dead franchise for that reason, lol.

If Monolith Soft wants to go bigger and bigger with the scope of their games and the amount of art assets, they'll have to start doing more than 2m or so. It will probably be pretty hard for Xenoblade so it depends on what their scope is for the future.
 
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For me, I’m currently huffing hopium that the reason why we haven’t seem the switch version of P3R is that the switch version will be an exclusive Female Main Character route and that it will outsell the other versions combined. I’m also hoping Miyamoto reaches through the screen and gives me my own Yoshi. (But damnit I WILL manifest this FeMC in P3:R through sheer willpower)
 
xaszatm said:
For me, I’m currently huffing hopium that the reason why we haven’t seem the switch version of P3R is that the switch version will be an exclusive Female Main Character route and that it will outsell the other versions combined. I’m also hoping Miyamoto reaches through the screen and gives me my own Yoshi. (But damnit I WILL manifest this FeMC in P3:R through sheer willpower)
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the Yoshi one might be more realistic at this point
 
xaszatm said:
For me, I’m currently huffing hopium that the reason why we haven’t seem the switch version of P3R is that the switch version will be an exclusive Female Main Character route and that it will outsell the other versions combined. I’m also hoping Miyamoto reaches through the screen and gives me my own Yoshi. (But damnit I WILL manifest this FeMC in P3:R through sheer willpower)
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That doesn't make sense and that sounds like a horrible idea. I'm expecting FeMC to be DLC down the line for people who want to replay the game, like how it was suggested in Portable. I'm expecting the same with The Answer.
 
D36 said:
That doesn't make sense and that sounds like a horrible idea. I'm expecting FeMC to be DLC down the line for people who want to replay the game, like how it was suggested in Portable. I'm expecting the same with The Answer.
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I just want to play FeMC and I don’t think they’re gonna do the re-release down the road. I think this is it and we move straight into P6, especially given the comments that this is supposed to be the “ultimate” version of the game.
 
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OctoSplattack said:
I still remember my double-take when I learned that Mega Man 11 is the best-selling game in the entire franchise at 1.6 million copies.
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Yeah, that's bonkers to me. Like, half a dozen different sub-series and a bajillion games going back like 30+ years and not a single one cracked 2 million? Just wild stuff.

Especially wild that, apparently the Battle Network Collection is at like 1.3 million or something, so a collection of GBA games is probably gonna be the best-selling entry soon (if it isn't already).
 
xaszatm said:
For me, I’m currently huffing hopium that the reason why we haven’t seem the switch version of P3R is that the switch version will be an exclusive Female Main Character route and that it will outsell the other versions combined. I’m also hoping Miyamoto reaches through the screen and gives me my own Yoshi. (But damnit I WILL manifest this FeMC in P3:R through sheer willpower)
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She is just so different, but such fun of a character which makes her all the more tragic.

I don't want to see another half finished Mario sports game made by Camelot.
 
xaszatm said:
I just want to play FeMC and I don’t think they’re gonna do the re-release down the road. I think this is it and we move straight into P6, especially given the comments that this is supposed to be the “ultimate” version of the game.
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I don't know. I think Atlus and P-Team understands how important FeMC and especially The Answer are for Persona 3, so I'm not sure if Reload will simply one and done. Perhaps I'm putting too much faith in a company that announces a remake 5 months after release a port of an older version that has its own share of issues, but eh.
 
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