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They would be stupid to not have a 4K patch for TotK (along with DLC maybe?) during the ReDraketed presentation.
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They would be stupid to not have a 4K patch for TotK (along with DLC maybe?) during the ReDraketed presentation.
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Nintendo doesn't do GOTY editions.
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That isn't true at all. I mean where to begin!
The device can get taller, wider, Joy-Con can get thicker, all without removing compatibility with existing Docks. On a very basic level, a 7.91" display could fit on a device with the SAME physical dimensions (length, width and thickness, but not the same shape) as OLED Model, and I would expect Nintendo to tend towards this, maybe a little wider for this or that reason.
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Interesting.Not to reignite the "winter" debut, this is from the Q1 financial results notes:
This what the Pokemon leak said:
What was the original post about Switch 2 again?
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This is interesting. Is there any way they would sell the console and the dock separately ? Better for packaging, the environment (less docks sold and reuse of old ones), and also can put a higher margin on the console itself (with the price looking more acceptable than with the dock increasing the price of the console by 10 bucks should be easier no?).
I know I m daydreaming, but we accumulate so much useless electronic items, that having two docks would really upset my environment-friendly fiber.
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I doubt they'd do that at launch, but it took only a few months for Nintendo to offer the system and dock seperately in Japan, so, maybe not so unlikely.
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Is there a worse term in gaming than 'GOTY edition'?
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There are contenders.
"AAA+" (or whatever the current one is).
Also, "franchise".
"GaaS"
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I've always hated how normal people use IP and SKU. Like who talks like that in real life about anything unless it's part of your work business?
"Hey, you tasted that new IP the Coca Cola company have introduced?"
"Hey guys, you seen that trailer for that new IP on Netflix?"
Can somebody do a mock up of an 8" version of this for uh...science?it is time
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So looks like Nintendo are sticking with their 15M sales forecast for 2023.
Intrigued to see how they handle the next 12-15 months leading up to the successor, surely we are to expect another 4 or 5 first party games to be revealed for the switch before the successor rolls around?
Intrigued to see how they handle the next 12-15 months leading up to the successor, surely we are to expect another 4 or 5 first party games to be revealed for the switch before the successor rolls around?
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September direct could see updates both for Luigi Mansion 2 and the Princess Peach game (with a namedrop hopefully) and prob a tease/trailer for another game or two (I'm thinking MP4 and/or an unannounced game).
Then an early 2024 direct will probably see some new announcements and updates up to june/july.
Among those new announcements I wouldn't be surprised if there's a remaster/remake in there as well.
Maybe we also get some TOTK DLC announcement at some point.
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Since when is 2023, or the 2023-2024 fiscal year, already over? Patience.
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Microtransaction.
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Completely agree!
Wrt "franchise" it's so corporate and soulless, a MacDonalds franchise, the Mario franchise - yuck.
Also "consuming media", I don't fcking consume media, I listen to music, I play games, I watch TV shows.
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There is confusion, in the environment of the fair that is held in Cologne there will be private meetings of companies where Nintendo will reach agreements and contracts for Switch 2 will be signed, but at this moment no presentation is scheduled.
THANK YOU. This is the reason I had barely any games for my PS4, so many seemed to veer into this territory and I honestly don't want a "game" that I spend more time watching than playing.
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I remember the first time I was able to hold a Wiimote in my hand in the trade visitor area at GamesConvention (predecessor to GamesCom) about four months before the console was released. The only thing I had to do was pretend to be an employee of a friend's company and register accordingly. And of course stand in line for two hours.
While I was there in line, many people with expensive suits and large briefcases disappeared behind closed doors in that very trade visitor area at Nintendo's booth, usually only for 30 or 45 minutes before the next troop of important suits showed up for their appointment. It's probably going to be very similar at GamesCom.
Nintendo calls them Deluxe and we can expect a few of them on the Switch 2 since the WiiU ports are drying up.
That said, I actually expect the TotK DLC to be unveiled during the Switch 2 presentation alongside an enhanced version of the game on day 1 for the system.
The games that could be deluxed imho are:
- Smash Bros Ultimate (if Sakurai doesn't want to make a new one)
- Breath of the Wild (3 or 4 years down the line, as a stop gap before the next mainline Zelda)
- Mario Galaxy (a collection of the two) or Sunshine (heavily remastered, with added content)
- Xenoblade X will be Definitive Editioned
Mario Kart imho will get a brand new game that shares no assets with 8 and that looks orders of magnitude better (8 looked amazing in 2014) with a slightly different artstyle and less content but one or two modes that aren't in 8. It will have a lot less content than Deluxe + all dlcs and I don't think that will make much of an impact, as long as the content that is in the game is varied and high quality
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Ya this was done to just show the size relationship of an 8in screen to the current Switch we know and love. Of course the body and the JoyCons are going to be redesigned.
Personally I got my fingers crossed for full-fat hall-effect sticks on bigger more ergonomic cons .
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Nash "emoji spam" Weedle making sure to cover their bases if they corroborated that story. Funny that we won't know if it's correct until a dev takes the risk to leak it
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With Nintendo selling almost 130 million switch consoles as of end of June and a new console seemingly imminent, how likely is it that the switch dethrones both the DS as the best selling handheld console of all time and the ps2 as the best selling console of all time?
My personal projection is that it may just be out of reach, I can see the switch stalling at around 150 million consoles sales total lifetime.
My reasoning is that once switch 2 is released I believe all manufacturing partners will be transitioned to manufacturing switch 2 over time, I anticipate switch 1 will cease manufacture within a year of switch twos release.
If Nintendo hits their current target, by end of March 2024 they will be at around 142 million consoles sold. It's around this time I expect the switch 2 to be revealed which will likely slow momentum. Therefore I think a prediction of 8 million switch units sold for FY2025 seems reasonable.
If we assume switch 2 releases around September - November 2024, it will have been on the Market for six months when FY2026 starts in April 2025 and manufacturing capacity, and thus availability will likely have ramped up by then stiffling switch 1 demand. Assuming they hit those aforementioned targets could they sell another 5 million switch units with switch 2 on the market? With some final price drops for that year, maybe, but it's going to be a struggle in my opinion.
Hence I think they may just about fall short.
My personal projection is that it may just be out of reach, I can see the switch stalling at around 150 million consoles sales total lifetime.
My reasoning is that once switch 2 is released I believe all manufacturing partners will be transitioned to manufacturing switch 2 over time, I anticipate switch 1 will cease manufacture within a year of switch twos release.
If Nintendo hits their current target, by end of March 2024 they will be at around 142 million consoles sold. It's around this time I expect the switch 2 to be revealed which will likely slow momentum. Therefore I think a prediction of 8 million switch units sold for FY2025 seems reasonable.
If we assume switch 2 releases around September - November 2024, it will have been on the Market for six months when FY2026 starts in April 2025 and manufacturing capacity, and thus availability will likely have ramped up by then stiffling switch 1 demand. Assuming they hit those aforementioned targets could they sell another 5 million switch units with switch 2 on the market? With some final price drops for that year, maybe, but it's going to be a struggle in my opinion.
Hence I think they may just about fall short.
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Per usual, there’s no conference call or Q&A session for Nintendo’s Q1 earnings release. I don’t know how, but Nikkei managed to get some Furukawa quotes, unrelated to hardware though:
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It was released 1993, eight years after the first game.Nikkei said:
KeijiKG
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Things ae moving ahead of schedule for the Indigo Disk, that's my takeaway.Not to reignite the "winter" debut, this is from the Q1 financial results notes:
This what the Pokemon leak said:
The previous game's DLC had Summer and late Fall releases but seems TPCi wants to wrap up S/V's content by 2023.
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Sorry to single you two out, but it's wild to me how quickly a conversation about silly gaming terms like "GOTY edition" turned to complaining about the direction of PlayStation lol
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I imagine and speculate the factors included a lot of stuff in the pre-production phase
-digging up Nintendo's vault for Kotabe's old sketches
-meetings with Illumination in between arduous development cycles, since the game side of things was struggling post-WiiU
-meticulously making sure they had the right writers onboard who "get" Mario and not just use Mario in passing (i.e. college humor tier writing, people who want fart jokes, etc)
-Miyamoto treating the production pipeline like his games, for better or worse
-Nakaue being tasked with concept art after the first script draft or planning phase so the production staff has a standard to live up to
-Constant meetings and a "do's and don'ts" list after seeing a few script drafts and storyboards.
-Not to mention squeezing in production in between Illumination's packed schedule
I'm sure the strings have tightened a bit for the next one to be just right, but Illumination seems pretty busy and Nakaue's drawing arm demands a cooldown period.
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If Nintendo wanted it, it could, we still haven't had any price cuts, we haven't had any big discount-focused bundles, no Nintendo Selects either, and I can imagine a niche market for a Switch TV or Switch Micro.
Oh I didn't meant that as a specific complaint about PlayStation, I apologise if it came across that way. It's just that PS4 was the first console where this kind of thing really hit me. I've also never owned any Xbox consoles, so PS4 is all I could speak about from personal experience. I have nothing against PlayStation or Sony or anything like that, I have every Sony home console since the PS2. I'm not one for console wars, I think it's dumb. Every console has its place in the market.
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I’ve been told the target is 3-6 hours?
I would love that OLED battery life, but it’s easy to imagine that if Nintendo had 5 hours of battery life that they’d rather push clocks a liiiitle further.
KeijiKG
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How DARE you insinuate anyone on this forum is normal.
ReyVGM
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If "GOTY edition" means a re-release that includes all the patches and content in one package, then Nintendo has kinda done that before.
Hyrule Warriors, Fire Emblem Warriors Xenoblade 1 have been re-released multiple times with everything included. You could even say Mario Kart 8 Deluxe falls into that category (until Nintendo started releasing new DLC for it that is).
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Wee bit off-topic, but looking at the financial updates... Tears of the Kingdom pulls over 18.5 million sales between May 12th and June 30th, Scarlet & Violet is reported to have sold 22.1m as of Q1 and now 22.6m as of Q2, barely a 0.5m increase which indicates it's perhaps close to its saturation point and unlikely to surpass Sword & Shield, even with the winter season approaching
If Pokémon's mainline entries are beginning to stagnate to the point they're routinely outsold by Zelda, which just a couple of generations ago could barely pull a fraction of Pokémon's numbers, then I hope this inspires some serious introspection on Game Freak's part, or encourages Nintendo to step in and demand better quality products for the console generations going forward while putting some pressure on for their own developers and other affiliates (Monolith Soft?) to be a bigger part of the development process
If Pokémon's mainline entries are beginning to stagnate to the point they're routinely outsold by Zelda, which just a couple of generations ago could barely pull a fraction of Pokémon's numbers, then I hope this inspires some serious introspection on Game Freak's part, or encourages Nintendo to step in and demand better quality products for the console generations going forward while putting some pressure on for their own developers and other affiliates (Monolith Soft?) to be a bigger part of the development process
You must be joking. Why are people constantly asking for them to be a support studio for everyone. Its already bad they waste time on zelda instead of working on xeno.
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"New project start! Looking for experienced action game developers! An ambitious project that differs from Monolith Soft's brand image. If you want to challenge yourself in a new environment, or if you want to make the most of your talents in a new title, please apply."
Game differs from their monolith soft brand image which means not zelda and not xenoblade. Unless they didn't consider zelda as a part of their "brand image" (they made skyward sword and breath of the wild by the time this was posted so they probably do) then this is a new game.
The art and job postings are still on their website 6 years later through multiple site updates. Could be a game, could be nothing but I'm leaning toward unannounced action game.
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I don‘t know like we are still talking about a game that makes huge numbers in a very short amount of time despite that they release new games every 2 years and that only in the main series.
In combination with the DLCs and cross media products like the anime, cards or merchandise Pokémon is still in another league compared to Zelda.
Also all Pokémon games are more front loaded in sales anyway and they actually sell better on Switch than the past few generations on 3DS (ignoring the expanded versions because of Switch games having DLCs instead of new rehashed games)
I don‘t think that they will suddenly sell way more if they fix the technical issues of their games.
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I just always have a feeling that Monlithsoft's medieval project is basically just Baten Kaitos 3.
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Because they have the resources, personnel, and the skill sets/talent to function as both a primary developer studio and a supporting studio, in addition to assisting with Zelda they've also provided support for the Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Pikmin and Smash franchises, there's a strong track record with their work on fantastic and widely-beloved releases, I think Pokémon could only benefit from theirs and EPD's increased involvement
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While I don't think they should be making those god awful pokemon games, they are not wasting time by doing zelda games lol. They have many developers ready to support many games. One of their literal functions is being a support studio and that will not change so they can make another xenoblade game that can't hit 5mil sales (i love xeno but it's true lol).
Anyway, I'd rather bandai namco help with a pokemon game considering how gorgeous snap and pokken look in comparison to mainline. If there was even a sprinkle of that magic for next gen pokemon would be so good
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While I hope so, I don't see any reason why they would. Botw and Totk took about 6 years to make and in the meantime (2011-2023) we got like 10 Pokémon game releases.
It at least seems for many that S/V was the last straw and the DLC hype is nowhere near the same of SwSh (this might just be my perception tho).
I think I'm gonna watch what they'll do with Gen 10 and decide if it's time to drop the series for good or not, there's just too many worthy games out there to keep hoping for Pokémon to reclaim its glory.
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Likely? It wouldn't turn on.
You can try yourself. You plug the known number of cores that T239 has in there (requires slightly hacking the Javascript), turn every clock down to the lowest level the sliders will go, well below Switch's current clocks, and you get 13W of power draw at low load. That's just the SOC - no power for the screen, the Joy-Cons, the WiFi, and any new control tech Nintendo is adding.
Which is not to say 8nm is impossible, just that it requires some level of battery saving technology that Nvidia isn't using elsewhere (like custom power curves) that make it hard to estimate. Hence my emphasis on likely.
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