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Yeah but Serif might be meaning the aesthetic of it.if it's sturdy enough it would be functionally identical, no?
Yeah but Serif might be meaning the aesthetic of it.if it's sturdy enough it would be functionally identical, no?
Yes but it's ugly, and that's what matters to meif it's sturdy enough it would be functionally identical, no?
within expectations. there's nothing really out of the ordinary to really discussBTW, the following was posted on Baidu, a Chinese forum, on July 7. What do you think?
今年不会有新机的【ns吧】_百度贴吧
今年不会有新机的..先说一下我知道的情报(信息来源烟台xx康)没有oled版lite,Lite和续航版作为低端线被保留,估计直到NS退役。新机是加强版,非换代。直接沿用Oled的面板和产品线,只做了芯片的升级。oled的tieba.baidu.com
Let me talk about the intelligence I know (source of information Yantai xx Kang)
There is no oled version of the lite, and the Lite and battery versions are retained as low-end lines, presumably until the NS is retired.
The new machine is an enhanced version, not a replacement. The panels and product lines of Oled are directly used, and only the chips are upgraded.
The assembly line of oled was only replaced with a new "enhanced version" in May. It took half a year to produce and distribute goods, and it was too late to launch this year.
In the first half of this year, two Oled version limited machines were produced to clear the stock of old chips. One has now been announced.
It's not clear why they'd want to be clearing stock of "old chips" if the other two models are still being produced.BTW, the following was posted on Baidu, a Chinese forum, on July 7. What do you think?
今年不会有新机的【ns吧】_百度贴吧
今年不会有新机的..先说一下我知道的情报(信息来源烟台xx康)没有oled版lite,Lite和续航版作为低端线被保留,估计直到NS退役。新机是加强版,非换代。直接沿用Oled的面板和产品线,只做了芯片的升级。oled的tieba.baidu.com
Let me talk about the intelligence I know (source of information Yantai xx Kang)
There is no oled version of the lite, and the Lite and battery versions are retained as low-end lines, presumably until the NS is retired.
The new machine is an enhanced version, not a replacement. The panels and product lines of Oled are directly used, and only the chips are upgraded.
The assembly line of oled was only replaced with a new "enhanced version" in May. It took half a year to produce and distribute goods, and it was too late to launch this year.
In the first half of this year, two Oled version limited machines were produced to clear the stock of old chips. One has now been announced.
ah yes, fair enoughYes but it's ugly, and that's what matters to me
Me too, but IIRC when the funcle began talking about the cutout kickstand a theory was floated that it was to have OLED-like sturdiness while allowing more room inside the shell (for stuff like extra cooling due to beefier hardware). So it might be necessary whether it's pretty or not.What's a cut-out kickstand? Like this?
... I think I might prefer the OLED one honestly.
Me too, but IIRC when the funcle began talking about the cutout kickstand a theory was floated that it was to have OLED-like sturdiness while allowing more room inside the shell (for stuff like extra cooling due to beefier hardware). So it might be necessary whether it's pretty or not.
That would be it. Though it’s a stretch, we’re very broadly interpreting a translated drop from someone, it’s not even entirely clear this is what they meanWhat's a cut-out kickstand? Like this?
... I think I might prefer the OLED one honestly.
Might be hard to grip when pulling in and out? I don’t have an opinion really.if it's sturdy enough it would be functionally identical, no?
BTW, the following was posted on Baidu, a Chinese forum, on July 7. What do you think?
今年不会有新机的【ns吧】_百度贴吧
今年不会有新机的..先说一下我知道的情报(信息来源烟台xx康)没有oled版lite,Lite和续航版作为低端线被保留,估计直到NS退役。新机是加强版,非换代。直接沿用Oled的面板和产品线,只做了芯片的升级。oled的tieba.baidu.com
That sounds gorgeousI'm sure it's necessary. I just have unrealistic demands for sleek hardware that defies physics and engineering. My endgame handheld is a Vita sized Switch Drake Lite with a near bezel+less OLED HDR display, hall effect sticks, lil ergonomic grips on the back, and rumble.
They would have to clear the inventory anyway so they can release the next iteration.It's not clear why they'd want to be clearing stock of "old chips" if the other two models are still being produced.
(This is based on DeepL Translator's translation below.)They would have to clear the inventory anyway so they can release the next iteration.
先说一下我知道的情报(信息来源烟台xx康)
没有oled版lite,Lite和续航版作为低端线被保留,估计直到NS退役。
新机是加强版,非换代。直接沿用Oled的面板和产品线,只做了芯片的升级。
oled的组装线是5月才换成“加强版”新机的,半年时间生产+铺货根本来不及今年上市。
今年上半年生产了两款Oled版限定机,清老芯片库存。现在已经公布了一款。
First of all, I know the information (information source Yantai xxcon)
No oled version lite, Lite and renewal version as the low-end line is retained, estimated until the NS retired.
The new machine is an enhanced version, not a replacement. Directly follow the Oled panel and product line, only the chip upgrade.
Oled assembly line is only in May to replace the "enhanced" version of the new machine, half a year production + stocking simply too late to market this year.
Two Oled versions of limited machines were produced in the first half of this year to clear the old chip inventory. One has now been announced.
Wasn't there also a rumor that Nvidia has stopped producing Tegra X1? Might be related to that.(This is based on DeepL Translator's translation below.)
The problem is the Chinese rumour mentioned that Nintendo's going to continue manufacturing the Nintendo Switch Lite until the Nintendo Switch's retired.
So assuming "old chip inventory" is referring to the SoCs, if Nintendo's trying to clear inventory of SoCs with the OLED model, then Nintendo also has to clear inventory of SoCs with the Nintendo Switch Lite, since the OLED model and the Nintendo Switch Lite use the Tegra X1+ for the SoC, which is contradictory with what the Chinese rumour said earlier.
Rumor about Nintendo: “we are going to keep selling the worst selling member of the family”
Also Rumor about Nintendo: “let’s cut the best sellers and get rid of stored chips.”
The Lite, V2 and OLED (SOC):
Must be a slow day in the forum rumor mill….
Yes.Wasn't there also a rumor that Nvidia has stopped producing Tegra X1? Might be related to that.
The weirdest model to still maintain in this modern day and age looking at just the sales figures is the V2 model, it is squished right between the OLED and the LITE. If someone wants a purely portable experience for cheaper, they get the LITE, if someone wants a superior portable experience, they’re better off with an OLED for just 50 dollars more and a better experience over all vs the V2.Im not saying it’s going to happen this way, but the OLED model may find itself as the least appealing / oddest product on the market when the premium segment now has the new hardware with an OLED screen.
There are sellers that marks the Jetson Nano as discontinued, though it's probably just a variant. https://www.dfrobot.com/product-2134.htmlYes.
But I don't think that rumour is accurate, considering the Jetson Nano, which is based on the Tegra X1, is available until January 2025. (I think the Jetson Nano is currently using a binned variant of the Tegra X1+, which is technically based on the Tegra X1 since the only difference between the Tegra X1 and the Tegra X1+ is the process node used for fabrication (TSMC's 20 nm** process node for the Tegra X1 and TSMC's 16 nm** process node for the Tegra X1+).)
** → a marketing nomenclature used by all foundry companies
Sounds plausible enough, but what do I know? (Nothing)BTW, the following was posted on Baidu, a Chinese forum, on July 7. What do you think?
今年不会有新机的【ns吧】_百度贴吧
今年不会有新机的..先说一下我知道的情报(信息来源烟台xx康)没有oled版lite,Lite和续航版作为低端线被保留,估计直到NS退役。新机是加强版,非换代。直接沿用Oled的面板和产品线,只做了芯片的升级。oled的tieba.baidu.com
Let me talk about the intelligence I know (source of information Yantai xx Kang)
There is no oled version of the lite, and the Lite and battery versions are retained as low-end lines, presumably until the NS is retired.
The new machine is an enhanced version, not a replacement. The panels and product lines of Oled are directly used, and only the chips are upgraded.
The assembly line of oled was only replaced with a new "enhanced version" in May. It took half a year to produce and distribute goods, and it was too late to launch this year.
In the first half of this year, two Oled version limited machines were produced to clear the stock of old chips. One has now been announced.
Rumor about Nintendo: “we are going to keep selling the worst selling member of the family”
Also Rumor about Nintendo: “let’s cut the best sellers and get rid of stored chips.”
The Lite, V2 and OLED (SOC):
Must be a slow day in the forum rumor mill….
There was a rumor, but if there was any veracity to it, it was just about the original TX1 (Erista) and not the TX1+ (Mariko) that Nintendo's been using since 2019.Wasn't there also a rumor that Nvidia has stopped producing Tegra X1? Might be related to that.
Started in May? that's way too early considering all the last models shipped in 3-4 months tops after being announced.Post
Don't spend too much mental time on it, we know that engineering samples for Drake were at the earliest released in April this year, there is no way they shipped engineering samples to production lines. It's a fake rumor.Started in May? that's way too early considering all the last models shipped in 3-4 months tops after being announced.
Actually, yeah I know it's a different situation here because we are talking about a product that hasn't been announced yet.
But I'm still speculative about how long would it take N to finish a first production batch and other ordeals to make the product public.
Well, we still have 3 months for an announcement. We'll see.
You'll even be able to see each and every one of the Pikmin hiding between the blades of grassIt just dawned on me why BOTW2 is the perfect showcase for Drake.
Imagine being in a hanglider or free fall thousands of feet above Hyrule, seeing the landscape below in crisp 4k and great draw distances. That's when 4K will truly shine.
Picori...You'll even be able to see each and every one of the Pikmin hiding between the blades of grass
Yeah that was kinda the joke.Picori...
This made me curious. So, worldwide shipments of all 3DS models from April 2017 - March 2019.After the launch of the Switch the only 3DS model in production was the New 2DS XL essentially as it reached the magic $99.99 barrier.
It only makes sense until you realize that the switch lite, the V2, and the OLED model all use the same chip. If the reason is getting rid of the remaining SoC, the Lite shouldn’t really continue because there is no more after that.I think it makes sense to be fair. When the next device rolls around it's expected that most of Nintendo's production lines will be moved to the next device (it happened for PS4 and XBO), and historically Nintendo kept a very cheap old-gen device SKU in production. After the launch of the Switch the only 3DS model in production was the New 2DS XL essentially as it reached the magic $99.99 barrier.
When the Switch 2 rolls around it would make sense to still leave the Switch Lite as a cheap entry point at $199.99 and then convert all the other lines for the new model (and we all expect it to start at a minimum $399.99).
Considering the sales of the Lite I wouldn’t be shocked if it was the first to go.It only makes sense until you realize that the switch lite, the V2, and the OLED model all use the same chip. If the reason is getting rid of the remaining SoC, the Lite shouldn’t really continue because there is no more after that.
For the record I do expect the Lite to remain for long term though.
But this “leak” doesn’t make sense when you factor the reasoning they gave.
given it's the cheapest entry to the Switch, it'll be the last one to go. the OLED has parts that can be reused in Drake and is the closest in price to it. shit's gonna get cutConsidering the sales of the Lite I wouldn’t be shocked if it was the first to go.
Considering sales trajectories of all the devices I think it may be the Lite even if it is the cheapest. OLED is still outpacing it in sales while V2 is still goin strong. If the Drake is hard to get for awhile then OLED may still exist even if it shares similar parts. If they do a small price drop as well then Lite is going first imo.given it's the cheapest entry to the Switch, it'll be the last one to go. the OLED has parts that can be reused in Drake and is the closest in price to it. shit's gonna get cut
The Lite doesn't exist purely to sell Lites. It allows them to say "Starting at 179.99", which gets you into the store, where you can be upsold from a refurbished Lite to a new OLED and walk out having paid 350.Considering sales trajectories of all the devices I think it may be the Lite even if it is the cheapest. OLED is still outpacing it in sales while V2 is still goin strong. If the Drake is hard to get for awhile then OLED may still exist even if it shares similar parts. If they do a small price drop as well then Lite is going first imo.
I expect 450USD minimum for Super Nintendo Switch. I just can't see it not having at least 100 dollars on the OLED. That or the rest of the line comes down in price (never say never, Europe has had two price cuts in the last 12 months, V2 from 330 to 300 and OLED from 365 to 350 per store.nintendo.ie ), in which case I could see 400USD Super, 300USD OLED, 250USD V2, 170 USD Lite, which I think makes a lot of sense.The V2 and OLED are definitely on their last legs if next Switch is within $400.
Looks like PSVR2 is starting production or has already started for a March launch.
Hopefully we get a similar article for Drake soon.
I do think $400 is possible for an entry level model. I can see Nintendo cease productions of the red box V2 and drop Switch lite to $270, OLED down to $300 (MAX) at the time of Drake's launch, if switch sales slow down enough. They could also release OLED models at a less discounted price or at $350 by bundling it with a game.The V2 and OLED are definitely on their last legs if next Switch is within $400.
PSVR is not that big when compared to a console though. I can't see Nintendo giving shorter than 3 months notice for a brand new console. I feel confident we'll hear something but end of January if it does get released with LoZ: TotKI guess they might do what Nintendo did and announce the price 2 months before it releases. Or it most likely will leak.
Mochizuki might still have nightmares over his drake articles lol
I wonder if a higher, unreasonable price will leak a few weeks before announcement of a lower, slightly more reasonable price is announced.I guess they might do what Nintendo did and announce the price 2 months before it releases. Or it most likely will leak.
Oh I dont mean console reveal, more like what Nintendo did with the switch price. The official reveal was Jan 13, 2 months before release. But yeah I agree with you on the Jan thing.PSVR is not that big when compared to a console though. I can't see Nintendo giving shorter than 3 months notice for a brand new console. I feel confident we'll hear something but end of January if it does get released with LoZ: TotK
Ohhh I can see that happening. Leak out a 550$ price, comes out at 425$, Sony PR wins.I wonder if a higher, unreasonable price will leak a few weeks before announcement of a lower, slightly more reasonable price is announced.
wHy WoN’t NiNtEnDo InVeSt In ThE vR fUtUrEI find the photo terrifying lol
I find the picture terrifying lol
Without the pandemic mask on it wouldn't look nearly so Freaky Cyber Ninja.wHy WoN’t NiNtEnDo InVeSt In ThE vR fUtUrE
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On the Intel side, there are many questions about whether or not Intel will cut spending on their capacity expansion as their business slows down significantly. This week, Dr. Randhir Thakur and Pat Gelsinger responded to these questions at the Intel Innovation conference.
This quote is in stark contrast to what they are telling some suppliers. We know suppliers who have already received cancellations in orders. Others have already received pushbacks in order delivery dates. These cuts pertain to both the Malaysia packaging facility build-out and wafer fabs in other geographies. While most media fawned over the prior quote as proof Intel will not waiver on spending, we want to draw special attention to this portion of that same response."When is the last time that a recession lasts for four or five years? Its impact on the industry may last several quarters like two, three or four quarters. You cannot be driven by near-term financials. We are investing for the long term. That's our strategy."
Pat Gelsinger, Intel CEO
Intel must manage its working capital very closely due to the implosion of the PC business and major share losses in servers. We believe the "short-term" business issues have affected their original buildout plans. Through multiple sources within the supply chain, SemiAnalysis can confirm that the recent significant demand decrease is causing Intel to undergo a review of all supplier purchase orders. Intel is at least partially driven by short-term working capital concerns."Yes, we need to manage our cash carefully."
Pat Gelsinger, Intel CEO
Moving onto the industry giant of TSMC, they are slowing their buildout due to an overcapacity of 7nm wafers in Q1 next year. The 3nm node is also having very slow uptake. The buildout plans for N3 are much more tepid versus what may have been planned previously. For reference, we expect TSMC to ramp up to 45,000 wafers per month for the N3 process family ~1 year after initial shipment. Compare this to the N5 and N7 buildouts, where wafer starts eclipsed 45,000 wafers per month within only ~6 months of initial shipment.
While 5nm buildouts are still going strong, despite Nvidia cuts, we believe other TSMC expansion projects will be slowed. The small Arizona fab was already behind schedule. In particular, we believe the buildout of giga-Fab 22 (28nm/7nm) in Kaohsiung Taiwan is slowing significantly on the 7nm capacity front.
We believe Samsung is cutting buildouts significantly as well. This pertains not only to memory. This is due to a major slowdown in mobile, share losses in foundry, and system LSI. In particular, we hear their expansions into equipment for Pyeongtaek's P fabs are slowing down. As a reminder, Samsung has no real flagship Exynos product for their 3nm node. As we reported in the past, even the 2024 flagship smartphone chip, Exynos 2400, is still based on their older 4nm class technology. Oddly Samsung is picking up on orders for wafer-level packaging equipment in a new Vietnam facility despite the packaging industry slowing much more significantly than the wafer-level fabrication industry.
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Fab post.
Yes.I am assuming when they say 7nm they mean 7nm family so would include TSMC 6nm as well?
Seems that the SoC won't be the bottle neck to Drake manufacture regardless of node.