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When will the next general Direct (full or mini) be?

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Peleo said:
Just bear in mind the movie is dropping on the 21nd of December. Within that context do you think Nintendo would benefit from having a Mario game released before or after it?
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I don't even know, but I definitely see at least a 2D platformer at the end of the year. I'd kill for Xenoblade in september, DK in november and BoTW2 in december. But for sure i need BoTW2 this year, even if Xenoblade has to wait for early 2023. But from a commercial point of view, Xenoblade would benefit christmas more than BoTW2. So many questions, I hope for some answers in the next big Direct.
 
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January : Pokemon LA
Feb :
March : Triangle Strategy
April : Kirby and the forgotten land
May : AW
June : Splatoon 3
July : M+R
August : Bayonetta 3
September : F-Zero
October : new Mario game,either 3D or 2D
November : Metroid Prime
December : Xenoblade 3
 
Ibrahim said:
I think so. Otherwise i won't be positive about releasing it this year
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Coco98bisFR said:
Same as Ibrahim, if we don't see it at the next Direct (whenever it is), I won't be very hopeful for a release this holidays...
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Help me understand this. If BotW hadn't been announced yet, I could see them needing a reveal by early 2022 in order to start the 9-month hype cycle for a late 2022 release (like some are expecting them to do for Xenoblade 3). But we already have a reveal trailer and a gameplay trailer (short as it may be), so it's not like they're running out of time to start the hype cycle, we've already had 31-months of hype (and 11 more till November). I think a good E3 presence with a title drop should now be plenty.
 
Formula Zero said:
January : Pokemon LA
Feb :
March : Triangle Strategy
April : Kirby and the forgotten land
May : AW
June : Splatoon 3
July : M+R
August : Bayonetta 3
September : F-Zero
October : new Mario game,either 3D or 2D
November : Metroid Prime
December : Xenoblade 3
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Feb can have Twilight Princess and Majora’s Mask lol
 
If the next direct is in February and something gets shadowdropped, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the next 99/Battle Royale game. It seems that the core leads for Tetris 99 and Super Mario Bros. 35 were the same, whereas Pac-Man 99 was developed by a mostly different team within Arika and had no involvement from EPD. There's also some evidence to suggest that the Mario 35th Anniversary celebrations were meant to begin much earlier, so who knows how long they were sitting on Mario 35. The Pac-Man 99 credits have an "Arika 99 Team" section, so the series will probably continue in some form.

Going into random speculation, the most popular candidates seem to be Puzzle League/Panel de Pon 99 and WarioWare 99. If I had to choose between them, I think Puzzle League is more likely, as WarioWare just had a recent release with Get it Together. I definitely wouldn't rule out WarioWare 99 in the future, as Ryuichi Nakada has worked on Touched and Smooth Moves.
 
This is my bet:

january: kirby and the forgotten land release date via twitter (march)

february direct: open with FE 4 remake (may), big blowout of splatoon 2 (june) and finished with Xeno 3 (july) and zelda botw 2 trailers (still simple 2022 date)

late february: casual game is announced for late april

E3 direct: opens with a new 2d mario game (december), new trailers of bayo 3 (september) and mario + rabbids 2 (august). Finished with Zelda BOTW2 (november) and metroid prime remaster/4 trailers (october/2023).

august: style saavy 5 is announced for october.

september direct: finished with a new mario kart trailer (spring 2023).
 
chocolate_supra said:
This actually got me thinking. Xenoblade being overshadowed by BotW didn't happen in 2017 because BotW released in March, so XB2 had the spotlight that season. But back-to-back BotW and XB would probably hurt the latter's visibility... SO, I went back and checked, and it looks like Xenoblade games have historically released much earlier! 1 and DE in June, Torna in September, X in April. XB2 was the fluke, not the norm.

So since they're radically different games and likely won't bump too hard into each other, what would we think about Xenoblade 3 and Splatoon both being the big summer games, then BotW2 and Prime being the big holiday games? Both would be a pairing of open world(-ish) RPG(-ish)s and shooters that probably won't overshadow each other.
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I think Xenoblade 3 will be either later summer/early fall, or December if they feel like cramming it in this year. Just so it's well away from other big games that will be launching in November. That seems likely to me. And if that's the case then it definitely has to have its reveal in the Feb Direct, so I'm all for that!
 
If Nintendo is expecting a big year, Zelda / Splat 3 will be the anchor, but they will need more than the games being listed, a lot of them are smaller franchises. Kirby is a reliable seller and Bayo 3 has a strrong fanbase, but it's not going to blow the doors out. I'm not sure a new 2D Mario is enough either unless it's a brand new design and not another entry in the 'new' SMB series.
 
I just saw this and thought to myself "What kind of "big" stuff could they still have for this year?" And then I remembered XC3 and Metroid Prime (HD/remake call it what you will) are still supposed to be announced.
 
Dekuman said:
If Nintendo is expecting a big year, Zelda / Splat 3 will be the anchor, but they will need more than the games being listed, a lot of them are smaller franchises. Kirby is a reliable seller and Bayo 3 has a strrong fanbase, but it's not going to blow the doors out. I'm not sure a new 2D Mario is enough either unless it's a brand new design and not another entry in the 'new' SMB series.
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Ok, exactly what would you consider big enough franchises though? Seriously wondering.

Because 2017 was a pretty damn amazing year for the Switch and it had a Zelda and a Splatoon, adding to that a 3D Mario. Then the rest were either just games from fhe franchises being listed (Kirby, Xenoblade, Mario+Rabbids) or Wii U ports (Mario Kart, Pokken). Literally the only thing 2017 had on what people are projecting for 2022 is Mario Odyssey.

And arguably that is already being replaced as far as the relevance of the franchises goes by a Pokemon game (that 2017 didn't have), and one of the more ambitious ones of recent years to boot. No matter what we might think of the potential quality of the game, sales wise you already know it will carry (heck I don't even like what I am seeing myself but I can't deny that my opinion won't matter).

Add to that and Zelda/Splatoon a Xenoblade, Metroid Remake, Bayonetta, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Mario + Rabbids, whatever else people in this thread are talking about that I am missing right now...

So... genuine question: What would constitute a "big year" in your eyes?
 
SirShorse said:
I just saw this and thought to myself "What kind of "big" stuff could they still have for this year?" And then I remembered XC3 and Metroid Prime (HD/remake call it what you will) are still supposed to be announced.
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Also they don't currently have a Mario game scheduled for 2022 (a first party one) and I'm pretty sure they've never gone a year without releasing something with Mario in the title.
 
Skittzo said:
Also they don't currently have a Mario game scheduled for 2022 (a first party one) and I'm pretty sure they've never gone a year without releasing something with Mario in the title.
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I don't think it's a 3D game because supposedly EPD9 is working on DK and a 3D(?) Mario, with the DK game supposedly coming out this year unless EPD9 wants to release two games in the same year. If it's a 2D Mario, I don't know which team would take on that game to be fair.

We got a Paper Mario game in 2020, Sports & Party game last year, what's next in line for spin-offs? A new Mario Kart? Seems like 2023 at the earliest to me, don't know if they'd do a new Mario Kart this year.
 
SirShorse said:
I don't think it's a 3D game because supposedly EPD9 is working on DK and a 3D(?) Mario, with the DK game supposedly coming out this year unless EPD9 wants to release two games in the same year. If it's a 2D Mario, I don't know which team would take on that game to be fair.

We got a Paper Mario game in 2020, Sports & Party game last year, what's next in line for spin-offs? A new Mario Kart? Seems like 2023 at the earliest to me, don't know if they'd do a new Mario Kart this year.
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Yeah that's the question.

They have fewer Mario series now than usual due to Mario and Luigi being dead. Maybe we'll see the return of something like Mario Paint or a new remake/remaster of an old Mario game (SMB3 HD-2D anyone?)
 
Jannyish said:
Ok, exactly what would you consider big enough franchises though? Seriously wondering.

Because 2017 was a pretty damn amazing year for the Switch and it had a Zelda and a Splatoon, adding to that a 3D Mario. Then the rest were either just games from fhe franchises being listed (Kirby, Xenoblade, Mario+Rabbids) or Wii U ports (Mario Kart, Pokken). Literally the only thing 2017 had on what people are projecting for 2022 is Mario Odyssey.

And arguably that is already being replaced as far as the relevance of the franchises goes by a Pokemon game (that 2017 didn't have), and one of the more ambitious ones of recent years to boot. No matter what we might think of the potential quality of the game, sales wise you already know it will carry (heck I don't even like what I am seeing myself but I can't deny that my opinion won't matter).

Add to that and Zelda/Splatoon a Xenoblade, Metroid Remake, Bayonetta, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Mario + Rabbids, whatever else people in this thread are talking about that I am missing right now...

So... genuine question: What would constitute a "big year" in your eyes?
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The obvious pairing here is Mario Odyssey 2, but if they do that, what do they launch a potential new hardware with. Even if it's not coming in the next 12 months, they can't exactly just make a Mario or Zelda game on short notice as we probably expect new hardware by 2024, which won't be enough time. The line up in 2022 is vexing for this reason. Either it's really coming sooner than we think or the Marieo we get won't be the expected sequel and they are holding the main Mario game for the next hardware launch.

I understand this all comes down to 'patterns' and expectations, Nintendo may well decide on a different strategy, who knows.
 
SirShorse said:
I don't think it's a 3D game because supposedly EPD9 is working on DK and a 3D(?) Mario, with the DK game supposedly coming out this year unless EPD9 wants to release two games in the same year. If it's a 2D Mario, I don't know which team would take on that game to be fair.

We got a Paper Mario game in 2020, Sports & Party game last year, what's next in line for spin-offs? A new Mario Kart? Seems like 2023 at the earliest to me, don't know if they'd do a new Mario Kart this year.
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Wouldn't 2D Mario just come from the normal team? It'll be 3+ years after Mario Maker 2. It's a reasonable timeframe.

Other than that, it might be time for a new Mario franchise. My idea was to turn the Nintendoland concept into a bunch of Mario minigames, but I'm not sure if that'll be too close to Mario Party.
 
LonkFromPA said:
So, do you guys think we will see BotW2 at the Direct on February 9th?
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Maybe - but I don't think its absence would be indicative of a delay.
N75 said:
If the next direct is in February and something gets shadowdropped, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the next 99/Battle Royale game. It seems that the core leads for Tetris 99 and Super Mario Bros. 35 were the same, whereas Pac-Man 99 was developed by a mostly different team within Arika and had no involvement from EPD. There's also some evidence to suggest that the Mario 35th Anniversary celebrations were meant to begin much earlier, so who knows how long they were sitting on Mario 35. The Pac-Man 99 credits have an "Arika 99 Team" section, so the series will probably continue in some form.

Going into random speculation, the most popular candidates seem to be Puzzle League/Panel de Pon 99 and WarioWare 99. If I had to choose between them, I think Puzzle League is more likely, as WarioWare just had a recent release with Get it Together. I definitely wouldn't rule out WarioWare 99 in the future, as Ryuichi Nakada has worked on Touched and Smooth Moves.
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WarioWare 99 would be spectacular, but I still want F Zero 99.
Dekuman said:
If Nintendo is expecting a big year, Zelda / Splat 3 will be the anchor, but they will need more than the games being listed, a lot of them are smaller franchises. Kirby is a reliable seller and Bayo 3 has a strrong fanbase, but it's not going to blow the doors out. I'm not sure a new 2D Mario is enough either unless it's a brand new design and not another entry in the 'new' SMB series.
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Nintendo tend to have 3 or 4 titles which have a shot at crossing the 10 million mark each year on Switch:
2017: Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey
2018: Super Mario Party, Pokemon Let's Go, Smash Bros Ultimate
2019: New Super Mario Bros U DX, Luigi's Mansion 3, Pokemon Sword/Shield, Ring Fit Adventure [Super Mario Maker 2 may well have been a hoped-for 10 million seller, but obviously hasn't done it)
2020: Animal Crossing: New Horizons, Super Mario 3D All-Stars [AC really did the heavy lifting and then some]
2021: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, Mario Party Superstars, Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl
2022: Pokemon Legends Arceus, Splatoon 3, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel

Right now, everything else they're launching looks set to be ~ 3 million copies or fewer, including the rumoured titles, but that's business as usual for Nintendo, because they often provide a whole bunch of those types of game (in 2022 that club could include Advance Wars, Kirby, Triangle Strategy, Bayonetta 3 - Kirby could exceed 3 million in that club, I think + rumoured stuff like Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime HD should land at 3 million or less). Mario + Rabbids from Ubisoft gives Nintendo an exclusive that should hit 5 million plus, though, which certainly strengthens their hand, and it's not hard to see where another big hit could come from: EPD 8, EPD 9, and EPD 10 are all becoming due to launch games.

SirShorse said:
I just saw this and thought to myself "What kind of "big" stuff could they still have for this year?" And then I remembered XC3 and Metroid Prime (HD/remake call it what you will) are still supposed to be announced.
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See above. EPD 8, EPD 9, or EPD 10 could provide really commercially 'big' titles. Any out of Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and Metroid Prime would make a splash online.
SirShorse said:
I don't think it's a 3D game because supposedly EPD9 is working on DK and a 3D(?) Mario, with the DK game supposedly coming out this year unless EPD9 wants to release two games in the same year. If it's a 2D Mario, I don't know which team would take on that game to be fair.

We got a Paper Mario game in 2020, Sports & Party game last year, what's next in line for spin-offs? A new Mario Kart? Seems like 2023 at the earliest to me, don't know if they'd do a new Mario Kart this year.
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EPD 8 is the Tokyo production group which helms 3D Mario and which is supposedly working on Donkey Kong; no reliable source has indicated Donkey Kong is coming in 2022, though multiple sources have heard of DK being in the works (though not all even agree it's in the works at EPD 8). So I wouldn't assume that Donkey Kong is either a sure-fire thing or a 2022 title even if it is a sure-fire thing. EPD 9 is the Mario Kart group, based in the main EPD hub at Kyoto.

Going by their last projects, EPD 8 (3D Mario) and EPD 9 (Mario Kart) have gone the longest without launching a 'full' Switch title of their own, though both have launched other games since. EPD 10 shipped Super Mario Maker 2 in 2019. Really, though, it depends on how Nintendo have allocated staff within EPD, which teams have development support from elsewhere, how pandemic delays hit each project, which ones Nintendo see as a priority, and which games have gone smoothly even without Covid (maybe shifts in direction happened, who knows?).

Basically, my personal expectations are that Nintendo will have a major Mario launch besides M+R in 2022, but that it's very difficult to actually predict which one of the Really Big Three it could be (3D, 2D, Kart). I wrote my reasoning out in more detail here.
 
MisterSpo said:
EPD 8 is the Tokyo production group which helms 3D Mario and which is supposedly working on Donkey Kong; no reliable source has indicated Donkey Kong is coming in 2022, though multiple sources have heard of DK being in the works (though not all even agree it's in the works at EPD 8). So I wouldn't assume that Donkey Kong is either a sure-fire thing or a 2022 title even if it is a sure-fire thing. EPD 9 is the Mario Kart group, based in the main EPD hub at Kyoto.

Going by their last projects, EPD 8 (3D Mario) and EPD 9 (Mario Kart) have gone the longest without launching a 'full' Switch title of their own, though both have launched other games since. EPD 10 shipped Super Mario Maker 2 in 2019. Really, though, it depends on how Nintendo have allocated staff within EPD, which teams have development support from elsewhere, how pandemic delays hit each project, which ones Nintendo see as a priority, and which games have gone smoothly even without Covid (maybe shifts in direction happened, who knows?).

Basically, my personal expectations are that Nintendo will have a major Mario launch besides M+R in 2022, but that it's very difficult to actually predict which one of the Really Big Three it could be (3D, 2D, Kart). I wrote my reasoning out in more detail here.
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LMAO I got my EPD numbers wrong. Thanks for the correction!
 
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MisterSpo said:
EPD 8 is the Tokyo production group which helms 3D Mario and which is supposedly working on Donkey Kong; no reliable source has indicated Donkey Kong is coming in 2022, though multiple sources have heard of DK being in the works (though not all even agree it's in the works at EPD 8). So I wouldn't assume that Donkey Kong is either a sure-fire thing or a 2022 title even if it is a sure-fire thing. EPD 9 is the Mario Kart group, based in the main EPD hub at Kyoto.

Going by their last projects, EPD 8 (3D Mario) and EPD 9 (Mario Kart) have gone the longest without launching a 'full' Switch title of their own, though both have launched other games since. EPD 10 shipped Super Mario Maker 2 in 2019. Really, though, it depends on how Nintendo have allocated staff within EPD, which teams have development support from elsewhere, how pandemic delays hit each project, which ones Nintendo see as a priority, and which games have gone smoothly even without Covid (maybe shifts in direction happened, who knows?).

Basically, my personal expectations are that Nintendo will have a major Mario launch besides M+R in 2022, but that it's very difficult to actually predict which one of the Really Big Three it could be (3D, 2D, Kart). I wrote my reasoning out in more detail here.
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It's from my understanding the new DK is being handled by a completely new team at EPD dedicated in the development of the brand.
 
MisterSpo said:
Maybe - but I don't think its absence would be indicative of a delay.

WarioWare 99 would be spectacular, but I still want F Zero 99.

Nintendo tend to have 3 or 4 titles which have a shot at crossing the 10 million mark each year on Switch:
2017: Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey
2018: Super Mario Party, Pokemon Let's Go, Smash Bros Ultimate
2019: New Super Mario Bros U DX, Luigi's Mansion 3, Pokemon Sword/Shield, Ring Fit Adventure [Super Mario Maker 2 may well have been a hoped-for 10 million seller, but obviously hasn't done it)
2020: Animal Crossing: New Horizons, Super Mario 3D All-Stars [AC really did the heavy lifting and then some]
2021: Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, Mario Party Superstars, Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl
2022: Pokemon Legends Arceus, Splatoon 3, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel

Right now, everything else they're launching looks set to be ~ 3 million copies or fewer, including the rumoured titles, but that's business as usual for Nintendo, because they often provide a whole bunch of those types of game (in 2022 that club could include Advance Wars, Kirby, Triangle Strategy, Bayonetta 3 - Kirby could exceed 3 million in that club, I think + rumoured stuff like Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Metroid Prime HD should land at 3 million or less). Mario + Rabbids from Ubisoft gives Nintendo an exclusive that should hit 5 million plus, though, which certainly strengthens their hand, and it's not hard to see where another big hit could come from: EPD 8, EPD 9, and EPD 10 are all becoming due to launch games.


See above. EPD 8, EPD 9, or EPD 10 could provide really commercially 'big' titles. Any out of Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and Metroid Prime would make a splash online.

EPD 8 is the Tokyo production group which helms 3D Mario and which is supposedly working on Donkey Kong; no reliable source has indicated Donkey Kong is coming in 2022, though multiple sources have heard of DK being in the works (though not all even agree it's in the works at EPD 8). So I wouldn't assume that Donkey Kong is either a sure-fire thing or a 2022 title even if it is a sure-fire thing. EPD 9 is the Mario Kart group, based in the main EPD hub at Kyoto.

Going by their last projects, EPD 8 (3D Mario) and EPD 9 (Mario Kart) have gone the longest without launching a 'full' Switch title of their own, though both have launched other games since. EPD 10 shipped Super Mario Maker 2 in 2019. Really, though, it depends on how Nintendo have allocated staff within EPD, which teams have development support from elsewhere, how pandemic delays hit each project, which ones Nintendo see as a priority, and which games have gone smoothly even without Covid (maybe shifts in direction happened, who knows?).

Basically, my personal expectations are that Nintendo will have a major Mario launch besides M+R in 2022, but that it's very difficult to actually predict which one of the Really Big Three it could be (3D, 2D, Kart). I wrote my reasoning out in more detail here.
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I mean, both Kirby Star Allies and Three Houses already exceeded 3m copies tho, so it's safe to assume both will do the same in 2022. Kirby could even potentially do a lot better than Star Allies given it's a 3d game, and I think FE can do a lot better than its predecessor as well depending on what the game ends up being like imo.
 
Dekuman said:
The obvious pairing here is Mario Odyssey 2, but if they do that, what do they launch a potential new hardware with. Even if it's not coming in the next 12 months, they can't exactly just make a Mario or Zelda game on short notice as we probably expect new hardware by 2024, which won't be enough time. The line up in 2022 is vexing for this reason. Either it's really coming sooner than we think or the Marieo we get won't be the expected sequel and they are holding the main Mario game for the next hardware launch.

I understand this all comes down to 'patterns' and expectations, Nintendo may well decide on a different strategy, who knows.
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Yeah this is kinda why I'm still convinced the new model is coming this year. It feels like the right time for a big new mainline Mario or Mario Kart game considering the movie in December and I can't imagine that and BotW2 happening this year and any new hardware coming less than 3-4 years later.

So unless the big Mario game(s) is/are next year which is totally possible, new hardware feels like 2022 or else 2025-2026.
 
N75 said:
If the next direct is in February and something gets shadowdropped, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the next 99/Battle Royale game. It seems that the core leads for Tetris 99 and Super Mario Bros. 35 were the same, whereas Pac-Man 99 was developed by a mostly different team within Arika and had no involvement from EPD. There's also some evidence to suggest that the Mario 35th Anniversary celebrations were meant to begin much earlier, so who knows how long they were sitting on Mario 35. The Pac-Man 99 credits have an "Arika 99 Team" section, so the series will probably continue in some form.

Going into random speculation, the most popular candidates seem to be Puzzle League/Panel de Pon 99 and WarioWare 99. If I had to choose between them, I think Puzzle League is more likely, as WarioWare just had a recent release with Get it Together. I definitely wouldn't rule out WarioWare 99 in the future, as Ryuichi Nakada has worked on Touched and Smooth Moves.
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Man just give me Mario 35 back. It's a travesty it's not still available.
 
Branduil said:
Man just give me Mario 35 back. It's a travesty it's not still available.
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This this this.

I still don't understand why it was a "limited" release, as it was. Unless Mario 35 was a glorified beta test for a "Mario Megamix 99" that comprised the best of the original Mario quartet (and Lost Levels, too, I guess!), what was even the point?
 
Nice thread 😊 Direct hype and speculation are my favorite times of the year. I'm always ready for the ridiculously high expectations and disappointment.

As much as I want Xenoblade 3 to be announced and released this year, I have hard time figuring where it would fit in with all that's already announced and possibly more stuff to be seen. BotW 2 is probably going to get a very big marketing cycle, so I'm betting on that being November.

So I'm thinking...

January - Pokemon Legends: Arceus
February - Smaller unannounced title revealed in the Direct
March - Triangle Strategy
April - Kirby and the Forgotten Land
May - Advanced Wars 1+2
June - Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
July - Splatoon 3
August - Xenoblade 3? or unannounced game?
September - Xenoblade 3? or unannounced game?
October - Bayonetta 3
November - Breath of the Wild 2
December - DLC for something

I'm also #TeamJanuary because I'm tired of waiting. And I just want to see one actually happen in January for once.
 
TreIII said:
This this this.

I still don't understand why it was a "limited" release, as it was. Unless Mario 35 was a glorified beta test for a "Mario Megamix 99" that comprised the best of the original Mario quartet (and Lost Levels, too, I guess!), what was even the point?
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It was the only battle royale game I'm actually good at so of course it can't last forever.


 
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I still get the vibes everyone is wrong about 3D Mario

Like it just seems like one of those things that’s gonna happen and take us by surprise, because everyone is a little TOO convinced it’s not coming this year.

Like the clear unannounced Mario game this year, the fact that there’s a Mario movie, the time gap since odyssey - like when I separate myself from this forum and all the reasons people say it’s not coming, it just seems so obvious that it is lol.
 
Phendrift said:
I still get the vibes everyone is wrong about 3D Mario

Like it just seems like one of those things that’s gonna happen and take us by surprise, because everyone is a little TOO convinced it’s not coming this year.

Like the clear unannounced Mario game this year, the fact that there’s a Mario movie, the time gap since odyssey - like when I separate myself from this forum and all the reasons people say it’s not coming, it just seems so obvious that it is lol.
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For me it's also a matter of "too good to be true". I know it would be comparable to 2017, but when you add in a 3D Mario to the expected 2022 release, it reads like fan-fiction.
 
Peleo said:
For me it's also a matter of "too good to be true". I know it would be comparable to 2017, but when you add in a 3D Mario to the expected 2022 release, it reads like fan-fiction.
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I mean I feel like the release schedule has been lighter than we all expected for the past two years, plus covid pushing everything back, it all has to get dumped out at SOME point lol

One thing I can think of is that they don’t want to play the two trump cards of BotW2 and the next 3D Mario close to eachother, but 2017 did and they both were successful with the only downside being Odyssey was kinda buried by BotW at awards season but who knows , they probably don’t care much about that.
 
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Phendrift said:
I still get the vibes everyone is wrong about 3D Mario

Like it just seems like one of those things that’s gonna happen and take us by surprise, because everyone is a little TOO convinced it’s not coming this year.

Like the clear unannounced Mario game this year, the fact that there’s a Mario movie, the time gap since odyssey - like when I separate myself from this forum and all the reasons people say it’s not coming, it just seems so obvious that it is lol.
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There’s definitely a Mario platformer coming. I think the only question is if it is a 3D game, a 2D game, or something that mixes the two. You never put out an animated movie with nothing to sell.
 
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My heart says January, my mind says February. So, for the first time, let's start this new year in the good and wise direction... let's go, #TeamJanuary!

As for predictions, I'm 100% confident I'm gonna be wrong:

January: Pokémon Legends
Feb: Sports Story shadowdrop
Mar: Triangle Strategy, Kirby
Apr: Advance Wars, Nintendogs
May: Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope, e-shop game
June: Splatoon 3
July: Swiitch Sports
Aug: MHR Sunbreak, Mother remastered, Pokemon Legends DLC
Sept: Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Silksong
Oct: Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime HD
Nov: The sequel to the sequel to Skyward Sword
Dec: Mario Sunshine 2, Nintendogs DLC : Xenoblade Dogs


Also, @Raccoon, you're doing the right thing, without a doubt! You have made SO much for this community and I'm 100% sure everyone here is incredibly glad you take care of yourself. Rest all the time you need, stay happy, work in yourself and do not feel bad for a moment about this site or thread! Eventually, things will turn out rightlily... and we will still be here for you then!
 
LuckyNumber69 said:
I mean, both Kirby Star Allies and Three Houses already exceeded 3m copies tho, so it's safe to assume both will do the same in 2022. Kirby could even potentially do a lot better than Star Allies given it's a 3d game, and I think FE can do a lot better than its predecessor as well depending on what the game ends up being like imo.
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I used ~ to indicate around 3 million, mostly because every other game I listed is pretty much certainly coming in lower than that. Personally I'd be surprised if Fire Emblem gets much higher than that, but Kirby has a shot at doing better than Star Allies, for sure.
 
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Nathan Little said:
It's from my understanding the new DK is being handled by a completely new team at EPD dedicated in the development of the brand.
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That's the rumour from DK Vine yes, but it hasn't been corroborated by say, Emily or Nate, for example. It was also said that the 'new team' is part of EPD 8, which is what has caused some people to assume it's 3D Mario or DK and not both that could be in development - but some EPD groups have different teams working on different franchises, like EPD 5 being home to both Animal Crossing and Splatoon.
 
MissingNo. said:
I am kind of surprised to see people putting Bayo 3 towards the end of the year on their lists. I see that as more of a summer game. July, maybe August at the latest.
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The sequel to gaming's most quintessential Christmas title is going to be released in the Summer? For shame! :p

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Skittzo said:
Also they don't currently have a Mario game scheduled for 2022 (a first party one) and I'm pretty sure they've never gone a year without releasing something with Mario in the title.
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That and I can't imagine they'd have the Mario Movie out without some decently-big new Mario game to market alongside it.
 
Skittzo said:
Also they don't currently have a Mario game scheduled for 2022 (a first party one) and I'm pretty sure they've never gone a year without releasing something with Mario in the title.
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If you only count the the years that a game's initial release was in (i.e. Mario Kart 64 only as a 1996 game due to its Japanese release), I believe 1997 saw no Mario games.

Since then, yeah. Mario.
 
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