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The delay is because they need more time working on the machine learning models for body tracking and positional tracking for the joy-cons
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Considering that today, almost everyone has aligned on Q1 2025, I believe that the hopes of availability for the 2024 Christmas holidays are now very small. Personally, whether the debut is October-November 2024 or March 2025 doesn't change me much, but there is certainly a bit of disappointment. Switch 1 was a fantastic console, but honestly, I think it gave everything it had to give. 2024 was supposed to be the year of the successor. However, let's see if Nintendo deems it appropriate to communicate something in the next few weeks, also because I think that nothing else will be talked about in the next few days. 🤔
 
www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo Is Telling Game Publishers Switch 2 Will Be Delayed

Nintendo Co. is advising game publishers that its next-generation console will be delayed until the early months of 2025, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
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Nintendo Co. is advising game publishers that its next-generation console will be delayed until the first quarter of 2025, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

The successor to the popular Switch was scheduled for release in late 2024, but several game publishers have been advised of delay by the company, according to the people, who asked not to be identified since the news hasn't been announced.

Nintendo's seven-year-old Switch has sold over 132 million units and is approaching the end of its life cycle. The company has been tight-lipped about any potential successor, but expectations had narrowed to this year's holiday period for the release of the next generation.

News of the delay was reported earlier by the Video Games Chronicle.

US representatives for Nintendo didn’t respond to requests for comment.
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Nathair said:
However, let's see if Nintendo deems it appropriate to communicate something in the next few weeks
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Doug Bowser: "We're listening and we hear you. We've been planning a business update event for next week, where we look forward to sharing more details with you about our vision for the future of Switch. Stay tuned."

<Proceeds to announce a podcast>
 
Truno said:


www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo Is Telling Game Publishers Switch 2 Will Be Delayed

Nintendo Co. is advising game publishers that its next-generation console will be delayed until the early months of 2025, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
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Nintendo is telling publishers that they’re delaying the next console to 2025 so that when they actually release during the 2024 holiday they’ll have it all for themselves and reach huge sales for their first party games
Clever move nintendo
 
necrolipe said:
As I've said on Pipeline Discord just now, unless my own sources says otherwise, I'm leaving the March reveal boat for now
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Honestly, I'd rather there be no hardware announcement if it meant silence until September/October. So I'll just live on any potential leaks for the rest of the year.
 
chocolate_supra said:
Iirc Nintendo were still calling Xenoblade 2 a "launch window" game, nine months later. I think it's just a nebulous marketing term they can stretch around to fit whatever they wanna do.
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I was thinking a window for getting your games ready so that they can be launch titles. I guess that isn't what was meant here.
 
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Btw, did Brazil say that everything would be clear in March? Saw someone mention that on Twitter. If so, it would be weird to just have Nintendo send out a tweet saying, "Oh yeah, a successor to the Switch is in the works". How likely are we to see an actual teaser for the hardware?
 
lattjeful said:
Y'know I was kinda thinking about that earlier. I think it was better for us to know in the end; the contributions from the likes of oldpuck, Thraktor, and LiC have been lovely and why I check this thread. But on the flip side, would us being in the dark about specs make for a more pleasant discussion overall? We wouldn't expect a release right around every corner because we'd have no expectations beyond what we've speculated, and the conversation around specs would be wilder. We'd have the lowest of the lows and the highest of the highs, though having 99% of the specsheet already hasn't stopped the doomers and the dreamers so ig not.
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I think we'd just have to put up with a lot more "this will be twice as powerful as Switch at max because Nintendo".
 
To me this feels like the release window was not known by these sources until now, and its difference from the "expected" 2024 is being taken as a delay. No report previously came out and said "Nintendo told publishers the launch would be X" like they are now. If this was something so easy for multiple outlets to report, then it shouldn't have ever been "expected" with an unclear late H2 window and comments of uncertainty regarding earlier or later 2024 possibilities.

It also feels like a tedious subject to discuss and a good reason to put this thread away for a while. Assuming the window is accurate (delayed or not), a little extra wait is a shame but no big deal from my perspective. No need to be dragged into a vortex of doom by people who think it is.
 
gnetc said:
I’m assuming this gets revealed in June/July for the summer showcase, maybe a mention about it in March or something who knows.
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Someone did note earlier that they basically have to address it by May because they need to outline the fiscal year.
 
Dakhil said:
www.bloomberg.com

Nintendo Is Telling Game Publishers Switch 2 Will Be Delayed

Nintendo Co. is advising game publishers that its next-generation console will be delayed until the early months of 2025, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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Just when everyone in this thread thought this time last week we were seeing light at the end of the tunnel, a hand yanks us back several months.
I'll probably ditch this board for a while probably. Come back when things get more interesting.
 
I’m probably going to disappear from this thread until October November for my mental health. Because it’s kinda over at this point, this might have been the worst possible news about the switch 2 that we could have gotten.
 
Slash said:
Monkey's Paw: Metroid Prime 4 releases this year and is Nintendo's big holiday game, but no Switch 2 until 2025.
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I mean...I do think that's likely at this point.

November 2024 would be 5.5 years since Metroid Prime 4 development was rebooted. By the time the Switch 2 comes out in March of next year it would be over 6 years.

With seemingly not much else on the release slate....it appears this holiday will be Metroid Prime 4 in October with Black/White remakes in November.
 
Well, we could demand they do it now and have Mario with glitches like scarlet and violet. Anyway, this new Mario game better be good. I want my super fast long backwards jump. I want to build up my speed to go to 16 parallel universe. All way up to the point we get shot into hyrule and into the unicorn fountain and get the triforce and then it teleports me behind a truck so I can capture mew. Then we fly to the moon catch clefairy. Then have clefairy use metronome to explode me behind a train so I can go freaking Super Sonic.
 
It is not reassuring when the only insiders confident about which node it will be are saying 8nm.

Shouldn't the sources talking to Nate, Necro, DF, Brazil, etc. know by now what the node of this thing is going to be?
 
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BreakAtmo said:
No, not "solely for enhanced BC". For enhanced BC at the time of purchase, and also for all the major exclusives that would still be revealed at the console's announcement and dated for, we're assuming, several months after launch. I also think it's flawed to assume the exclusives would all need to wait until March, they likely just don't want to release a console in January or February, so any exclusives that can't meet September or November but could meet December, January or February will now have to wait even longer. This could be especially the case if the theory that this whole delay is down to 3D Mario has any merit.

Also, think of all the third-party games, new and old, that would be coming to a portable console for the first time. They would probably be perfectly ready for a mid-late 2024 launch.
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What your describing here is different from what was said earlier.
I fully believe there are at least 10 million people willing to buy a Switch 2 early just for the enhanced BC - not enough for a whole console lifecycle, but more than enough for the first few months.
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In which case enhanced BC plays second fiddle to the exclusives announced as the main reason why people would wanna buy Redacted. Which enhanced BC would not even hold them for the first few months because there is actual software to play on their brand new expensive hardware. Which would make the comparison to OLED even stranger.

I never said they had to wait till March but if the presumption is that Nintendo is waiting for software then I would imagine they would like to have an actual product strategy; & not haphazardly throwing things against the wall since they released to early, & are currently panicking. If it is 3D Mario then then I would assume Nintendo would like to start off strong when it releases & follow that accordingly. While 3rd parties are nice they are not the main reason people buy Ninrendo systems thus they are relegated to supporting the main draws.
 
Slash said:
Monkey's Paw: Metroid Prime 4 releases this year and is Nintendo's big holiday game, but no Switch 2 until 2025.
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After Side Order and Unicorn Overlord I’m selling mine. I’m not playing another big core game on the system. I hope they opt to sacrifice Switch (1) sales - give it a discount and some remasters, but otherwise kick off Switch 2 advertising and leave the old system to rot. :]
 
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gnetc said:
I’m assuming this gets revealed in June/July for the summer showcase, maybe a mention about it in March or something who knows.
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I’m guessing:

March: Official announcement(no reveal)

March to July: Leaks/rumors galore

August/September: Official reveal/blowout

February/March: Launch
 
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necrolipe said:
My personal expectation is Unova game + spinoff

Regarding hardware, I guess that even delaying it's launch the mass production will still follow the prior plan (but is a speculation, course)
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Do any of your sources have info regarding the power node/consumption of the dev kits?
 
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Just came here to procrastinate my school work and see everybody here melting down, because I sure am. I was really hoping that they would carry their momentum going into Switch 2 this holiday without much of a gap in content, but here we are. I don't know, sure at the end of the day 5 months or so isn't that much longer. But I will say that I think they had an opportunity here to capitalize on the bad press from Sony and Microsoft, but more importantly, I've believed for the last two years that the longer they wait, the more outdated the hardware will be on launch day. Sure right now PS4 proish level seems impressive, but like Switch it will be releasing significantly less powerful than the other systems, and, in the long term, we will be with this thing during PS6's launch. Idk, in the grand scheme it probably doesn't matter, but it was nice to think they'd make it without a long gap in software. For a lot of us new hardware feels overdue, and we've been ready to put our Switches to rest for at least a year.
 
Sol said:
I mean...I do think that's likely at this point.

November 2024 would be 5.5 years since Metroid Prime 4 development was rebooted. By the time the Switch 2 comes out in March of next year it would be over 6 years.

With seemingly not much else on the release slate....it appears this holiday will be Metroid Prime 4 in October with Black/White remakes in November.
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Considering what Jeff said about May, I'm starting to think this, and I really don't know how to feel about it other than I hope there's a performance patch for next. It's like, nice to finally get that game, but at the same time, I would've loved seeing it be boosted from being in the launch window of the new console.
 
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casualreader said:
That games get delayed I understand too, but to delay a launch does that not mean that nothing is really ready and that lots of pieces have not yet fallen in the right place ? I think people are concerned because it gives a little of a wiiu vibe.
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I’d like to gently remind folks (or inform you, if you were unaware) that Switch itself was supposed to launch in Holiday 2016 and was pushed to March 2017 at almost exactly this time.

We just didn’t know that’s what was happening at the time, because it didn’t leak. It wasn’t until the gigaleak that we got the original timeline.

The reason for the delay was (probably) neither games nor hardware, but the Switch OS being behind schedule. So regardless of the nature of this delay (or even if you can call it that, see LiC's comment), I wouldn't let it give you a taste of the ol' Wii U. These things happen, and we only perceive them because of a leak. Not everything leaks which mean these things happen more often than we will ever know.
 
Sol said:
I mean...I do think that's likely at this point.

November 2024 would be 5.5 years since Metroid Prime 4 development was rebooted. By the time the Switch 2 comes out in March of next year it would be over 6 years.

With seemingly not much else on the release slate....it appears this holiday will be Metroid Prime 4 in October with Black/White remakes in November.
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This assumes Prime 4 was only rebooted once. At this point it seems possible that when they did their whole "Metroid Prime 4 is coming along nicely" update in the same direct they announced Dread, that was maybe their PR way of saying "shit is once again taking much longer than we had hoped/planned".
 
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