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belief is not tangible. A little risky to put that in a story from a journalistic matter.


and it does make sense especially if Nintendo is gonna be talking successor at GDC. That will leak. It'd be wise to get out ahead of leaks.
True, but if switch 2 is march 2025, then a reveal in march 2024 seems a little odd, unless it is just a general statement.
 
Well that's what stood out to me too. Do these 2 devs/sources not know when the system is coming out? It seems that way.
If a bunch of devs working against a 2024 release date, got told by Nintendo their games couldn't release before early 2025 maybe it's the natural conclusion to draw.
 
I'm not pointing any fingers but there are a few individuals in this thread that are desperately in need of a cookie, juicebox and a well-timed nap.

A rational person would not overreact or jump to conclusions over unsubstantiated rumors.

Back on topic:
2025 makes absolutely no sense given what little we do know. And it makes even less sense to reveal it in March 2024 only to wait a whole year to release the thing. Team 2025 will never be cool.
 
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i am so tired

if it truly is 2025 then everything about this damn successor's launch just screams nintendo playing scared, even when the market itself (i.e the fucking entirety of H2 2024 lmfao) is prime for them to strike while the iron is hot.
The market feels perfectly aligned for an extremely lucrative launch for Nintendo’s next generation hardware! Nintendo’s competitors are in a partial drought considering first party software, so I agree wholeheartedly.
 
The T239 is older now than what The TX was during the Switch launch
T239 is not a pre-existing chip like the TX1 was when the Switch began development. A 1:1 comparison here doesn't really work.


Eurogamer has heard similar whispers from industry sources this week, though has not been able to concretely substantiate them.
 
I will say that if we get a full reveal next month after this, it's going to be a sight to behold. Like getting pulled from the Mariana Trench to fucking K-2.
 
I think you bring up an excellently articulated point. The lack of deconfirmation seems peculiar if there was truly no plans to launch hardware this year. A last minute delay this late is not unrealistic, but severely unlikely given the magnitude of such an action carries.

My guess is that the news is currently experiencing a snowball effect. An individual, who was also a source, might have heard that there was issues with the launch, and interpreted in the worst way possible.

Imagine how hilarious it would be if there has been a misinterpretation on first 3 months of FY2025 (April, May, June 2024), vs first 3 months of CY2025 (January, February, March 2025).

That aside, I'm still concerned though there's nothing shooting this down yet. The "Partner Showcase" Direct we have next week no longer makes sense, what titles will carry 2024 for Switch 1 other than Princess Peach Showtime and a bunch of remakes/remasters?
 
Imagine how hilarious it would be if there has been a misinterpretation on first 3 months of FY2025 (April, May, June 2024), vs first 3 months of CY2025 (January, February, March 2025).

That aside, I'm still concerned though there's nothing shooting this down yet. The "Partner Showcase" Direct we have next week no longer makes sense, what titles will carry 2024 for Switch 1 other than Princess Peach Showtime and a bunch of remakes/remasters?
Prime 4
 
Imagine how hilarious it would be if there has been a misinterpretation on first 3 months of FY2025 (April, May, June 2024), vs first 3 months of CY2025 (January, February, March 2025).

That aside, I'm still concerned though there's nothing shooting this down yet. The "Partner Showcase" Direct we have next week no longer makes sense, what titles will carry 2024 for Switch 1 other than Princess Peach Showtime and a bunch of remakes/remasters?
Maybe metroid prime 4? Thats one of the last big games that havent release on the switch
 
Furukawa-san, I just want you to know this isn’t a very nice prank.

I'm sure he is just chuckling heartily while reading the past few threads.

"They're kneejerk reacting to Another rumor!"

Anyway I don't really buy this Q1 2025 talk. Doesn't make sense. It seems someone is being fed incorrect info and running with it.
 
I genuinely think Nintendo, if "software isn't ready" is the reason, would be better off just releasing the thing and playing catch-up than delaying it outright, if in fact they don't already have a sufficient software buffer to make it through this year healthily.

(And I know there are theoretical releases for this year that could fill in the gaps, but those are theoretical. It's just as likely some of those releases are also waiting on the Switch 2 release, or weren't going to be ready this year anyway, or any number of other scenarios).

Maybe metroid prime 4? Thats one of the last big games that havent release on the switch
They'd be pretty brave to bank this hard on MP4. Metroid Prime is bigger than mainline 'Troid, I think, but Metroid as a series is still only a moderate seller.
 
Maybe metroid prime 4? Thats one of the last big games that havent release on the switch
Sure that will tide us over for some of 2024 (I'm excited for that one), but I'm talking about the usual cadence of February Directs in the past setting the tone for the rest of the year.

But let's say Partner Showcase next week is real. And Switch launch in 2025 is real. When do we think we'll get that Direct where it'll reveal to us how the first half of 2024 will go, as far as 1st party content go?

Beyond Princess Peach Showtime and bunch of remakes/remasters, of course.
 
I genuinely think Nintendo, if "software isn't ready" is the reason, would be better off just releasing the thing and playing catch-up than delaying it outright, if in fact they don't already have a sufficient software buffer to make it through this year healthily.

(And I know there are theoretical releases for this year that could fill in the gaps, but those are theoretical. It's just as likely some of those releases are also waiting on the Switch 2 release, or weren't going to be ready this year anyway, or any number of other scenarios).


They'd be pretty brave to bank this hard on MP4. Metroid Prime is bigger than mainline 'Troid, I think, but Metroid as a series is still only a moderate seller.
I know, i mean metroid could launch in the middle of the year, announce the new device in h2 and banking the holidays with a new pokemon game just for the system to release early next year, is possible at the very least
 
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Sure that will tide us over for some of 2024 (I'm excited for that one), but I'm talking about the usual cadence of February Directs in the past setting the tone for the rest of the year.

But let's say Partner Showcase next week is real. And Switch launch in 2025 is real. When do we think we'll get that Direct where it'll reveal to us how the first half of 2024 will go, as far as 1st party content go?
2024 will be barren, with the one exception being prime 4 is my prediction.
 
I genuinely think Nintendo, if "software isn't ready" is the reason, would be better off just releasing the thing and playing catch-up than delaying it outright, if in fact they don't already have a sufficient software buffer to make it through this year healthily.

(And I know there are theoretical releases for this year that could fill in the gaps, but those are theoretical. It's just as likely some of those releases are also waiting on the Switch 2 release, or weren't going to be ready this year anyway, or any number of other scenarios).


They'd be pretty brave to bank this hard on MP4. Metroid Prime is bigger than mainline 'Troid, I think, but Metroid as a series is still only a moderate seller.
I think the difference is that Nintendo is terrified to release a new console without a good list of launch titles. Sony are more Ok to release hardware and then let software drip out later but Nintendo have PTSD over slow starts to a new console gen so could be ready to delay a console launch for software reasons.
 
2024 is looking like an absolute DIRE year for gaming. We are barely 2 months in and we have record layoffs and game project cancellations, for the first time ever Sony has come forth and essentially stated no major first party titles for this fiscal year, etc. This would have been the absolutely BEST time for Nintendo to come in with a new console and some big games. They would have came off like heroes.
 
Now that more Rumors has accrued about the Switch 2 now Releasing in Q1 of 2025, maybe Nintendo wants to Set the Things right by Announcing a Nintendo Podcast titled „Updates on the Hardware Future from Nintendo“ any Day now!
Featuring Nintendo heads Phil Bowser, Shuntaro Booty, Shigeru Bond--
 
Well, I say always look at the bright side. We have no marvel movies besides Deadpool. No new Firsts party games besides Indiana Jones. We have time to catch up on our backlog and that's across all media.
 
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I swear this next system has been nothing but "slipped to next year" rumors. I'm honestly exhausted.

It might sound silly, but the Switch 2 has sort of been a bright spot to look forward to for this year and if it doesn't come I'll just be bummed out more than is probably reasonable for hardware speculation. 2024 is looking grim.

If Nintendo's next console isn't revealed next month for a 2024 release, I'll delete my account.

Bring it on.
 
2024 is looking like an absolute DIRE year for gaming. We are barely 2 months in and we have record layoffs and game project cancellations, for the first time ever Sony has come forth and essentially stated no major first party titles for this fiscal year, etc. This would have been the absolutely BEST time for Nintendo to come in with a new console and some big games. They would have came off like heroes.

It's clear that those games aren't ready. Perhaps Nintendo is struggling with next gen development
 
2024 is looking like an absolute DIRE year for gaming. We are barely 2 months in and we have record layoffs and game project cancellations, for the first time ever Sony has come forth and essentially stated no major first party titles for this fiscal year, etc. This would have been the absolutely BEST time for Nintendo to come in with a new console and some big games. They would have came off like heroes.
It's certainly possible, though I think they should maybe be a little more afraid of how their bottom line is going to look after a fiscal year that was supposed to have a console launch and suddenly doesn't.
 
I think the difference is that Nintendo is terrified to release a new console without a good list of launch titles. Sony are more Ok to release hardware and then let software drip out later but Nintendo have PTSD over slow starts to a new console gen so could be ready to delay a console launch for software reasons.
Yep, their list of hardware with killer launch software is certainly more succesful than the one without. One of the reasons I'm excited to see NG Mario 3d
 
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I'm not gonna lie, this feels more like Nintendo PsyOp than actual news. Yes games targetting Q1 2025 is fairly significant... but that just means the furthest along timeframe. Games that are targeting the Switch's launch would obviously be far more under-wraps than games that are further out.

Literally the only thing this tells me are "Nintendo Switch 2 has games" and "Q1 2025 is the latest the device will launch".

It also directly contradicts the weird circumstances of the Partner direct and Nate's earlier comments.

I'm not dooming on this one, this is legit worthless information imo.

"Nintendo PsyOp" is crazyyyy hahahaha.

agreed, though.

nintendo out-PsyOping the CIA.
nintendo, the new government

/s
 
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I genuinely think Nintendo, if "software isn't ready" is the reason, would be better off just releasing the thing and playing catch-up than delaying it outright, if in fact they don't already have a sufficient software buffer to make it through this year healthily.
I would think there is at least one big title at launch for sufficient readiness. Switch only launched with BotW as the big first party title and that was the reason Nintendo delayed it from Holiday '16. Other titles like MK8 Deluxe, ARMS, Mario Odyssey released month(s) later.

For Switch 2 I would assume they would want those Holiday '24 sales, and have a few Switch 2 exclusives at launch along with taking advantage of backwards compatibility which the Switch 1 could not enjoy. Other big Switch 2 exclusives could come later in 2025.

My complete guess is that the Mario team has been cooking up a 3D Mario for launch at the end of this year with Switch 2, and Prime 4 is a cross-gen game. Combined with some third-party titles and Switch 1 BC and that's a fairly nice launch lineup for the end of this year. Then Q1 2025 can bring out more heavy hitters from both first and third party.
 
I’m wonder if is Q1 2025 if there is some new chip

At this rate the T239 chip that has been rumored for many years will start looking outdated by the time the Switch 2 actually launches. I remember thinking how amazing this chip sounded years ago but we kept waiting year after year and now we got a lot of other beefy handhelds on the market and the Switch 2 just never came. Even Microsoft and Sony are rumored to have new portables coming.
 
I can’t see Nintendo announcing the new console in March 2024 for a 2025 release.

If that was the case, I can’t then see Nintendo not having a General Direct in February 2024 considering we only have Princess Peach Showtime in March, two remakes with a vague 2024 date, and Metroid Prime 4 missing in action.

2025 would be disastrous. I’m begging March to put us out of our misery either way.
To play the advocate. What if the Nintendo Switch 2 would be announced in March 2024. But with just a simple codename. Like NX2 Launching in March 2025, like they did in April 2016. This also makes sure the investors would shut up.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Brazil's launch period estimate still fit within FY 2025?
It does, yeah, but at the tail end. I'm not sure how good a strategy it is to barely eke by for the vast majority of the FY and then bank hard on console sales at the very end.
 
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