Game Freak doesn't have time for that...they're gonna put voice work in the game, right...?
Game Freak doesn't have time for that...they're gonna put voice work in the game, right...?
this trailer presents a compelling case against putting voice acting in Pokémon games
I think for me, the thing is that Game Freak tries to tell stories in ways where voice acting would be beneficial or enhance the effect - long dialogue sequences, scenes like SwSh's Welcome to the World of Pokémon speech from Rose or Piers' concert - but they don't put in voice acting, so they feel hollow. They don't have to tell a story in that manner, but they do anyway, and rather than it looking like they're punching above their weight, it comes off like they wanted to do X, didn't have the time or budget, and went for it anyway. It feels kinda awkward.Myself, I've never gotten why people want VA in Pokémon.
There's of course the run-of-the-mill "Does every game need voice acting?" view.
But more importantly - and I say this as someone who loves them and their games - can people really imagine GF including voice acting in a Pokémon game that would add something to the experience and just not be extremely cringe?
Instead of assuming cringe, let them do it and see how it plays out. It was hard to watch the opening scene from Sword and Shield without voice acting.Myself, I've never gotten why people want VA in Pokémon.
There's of course the run-of-the-mill "Does every game need voice acting?" view.
But more importantly - and I say this as someone who loves them and their games - can people really imagine GF including voice acting in a Pokémon game that would add something to the experience and just not be extremely cringe?
I think for me, the thing is that Game Freak tries to tell stories in ways where voice acting would be beneficial or enhance the effect - long dialogue sequences, scenes like SwSh's Welcome to the World of Pokémon speech from Rose or Piers' concert - but they don't put in voice acting, so they feel hollow. They don't have to tell a story in that manner, but they do anyway, and rather than it looking like they're punching above their weight, it comes off like they wanted to do X, didn't have the time or budget, and went for it anyway. It feels kinda awkward.
Instead of assuming cringe, let them do it and see how it plays out. It was hard to watch the opening scene from Sword and Shield without voice acting.
I’d be fine with this. As much as I want VA in Pokémon, I don’t have faith GF can do it well. If it were only in Japanese, I wouldn’t be able to tell if the VA was bad! LolThis trailer made me think of something, imagine if Pokemon did put voice acting in, but it was Japanese only
Not playing JRPGs other than Pokémon and Dragon QuestAll you people that get cringe from this trailer where were you the past 10 years in JRPG land?
probably cringing on xenoblade and personaAll you people that get cringe from this trailer where were you the past 10 years in JRPG land?
Touché, that will workNot playing JRPGs other than Pokémon and Dragon Quest
Seriously, I'd settle for Zelda-like "Uhh! Heeeh? Huh! Ahh. Haah!" noises when a character speaks.
If you cannot have full voice acting, at least do that and voiced special cutscenes, please.
What if they spoke like Sims?Personally, I'd go for Animal Crossing voices.
More than settle, I think Zelda-like sounds would be ideal. I really don't trust Nintendo to get good voice acting, and in general, sounds of that sort can be amusing and iconic in their own way.Seriously, I'd settle for Zelda-like "Uhh! Heeeh? Huh! Ahh. Haah!" noises when a character speaks.
If you cannot have full voice acting, at least do that and voiced special cutscenes, please.
Also works, I'll take it. Tho personally I feel the 'gibberish' style suits more stylized looks, like Animal Crossing and Splatoon, better. With anime-looking characters, it'd feel a bit odd to hear them speak gibberish. That's just me thoPersonally, I'd go for Animal Crossing voices.
this is the boat I’m in. like I understand some people like VA more than others. but I personally don’t think I’d enjoy it here.Myself, I've never gotten why people want VA in Pokémon.
There's of course the run-of-the-mill "Does every game need voice acting?" view.
But more importantly - and I say this as someone who loves them and their games - can people really imagine GF including voice acting in a Pokémon game that would add something to the experience and just not be extremely cringe?
Then say "I cringed", don't say something "is cringe". That implies an objective description of the content itself, and somebody's going to respond if they disagree.An internet person telling me that the thing I cringed at isn't cringe doesn't stop it from being cringe, since I cringed.
Yeah, as long as the writing stays that bad and in some instances infantile i really dont want real people actiong out some of those lines.Myself, I've never gotten why people want VA in Pokémon.
There's of course the run-of-the-mill "Does every game need voice acting?" view.
But more importantly - and I say this as someone who loves them and their games - can people really imagine GF including voice acting in a Pokémon game that would add something to the experience and just not be extremely cringe?
and I don't see them not making these cutscenes. they would have to strip out damn near everything to make that work and people actually like the characters and shit. a "just functions" pokemon game wouldn't be popular, methinksmind you, i also dont want those cutscenes, where somebody is animated as if they talk while staying completly silent.
at leagt in the last 2 gens they had cutszenes that where directed as if there was actual voice acting
That's a very good point, the writing in Pokemon has always been weak, if not flat out terrible in many points, it's a bit easier to stomach if you're merely reading the bad dialogue instead of hearing it said out loud. Though by that point someone could simply argue ''then have audio AND an option to disable said audio'' and they would be correct anyway since a game that sells as well as Pokemon has no excuse for not having higher production values.Yeah, as long as the writing stays that bad and in some instances infantile i really dont want real people actiong out some of those lines.
mind you, i also dont want those cutscenes, where somebody is animated as if they talk while staying completly silent.
at leagt in the last 2 gens they had cutszenes that where directed as if there was actual voice acting
Same in german. She talked very casual and even used "hype-train" in her sentence.I liked it, and also as other people have mentioned she's an streamer rather than a vtuber, so it's not like she is going to look different in game.
Also something funny watching the english and latam subs (yes we got proper one this time, not from spain), is that the english one has less style, if I can call it that way. The latam subs add more flavor, for example in the intro when she greets everyone the english subs just adds greeting in multiple languages while in spanish they "japanish" it with "holichiwa" (hola + konnichiwa)
I hate this type of character and everything it represents but I love "holichiwa" so much lmaoI liked it, and also as other people have mentioned she's an streamer rather than a vtuber, so it's not like she is going to look different in game.
Also something funny watching the english and latam subs (yes we got proper one this time, not from spain), is that the english one has less style, if I can call it that way. The latam subs add more flavor, for example in the intro when she greets everyone the english subs just adds greeting in multiple languages while in spanish they "japanish" it with "holichiwa" (hola + konnichiwa)
and I don't see them not making these cutscenes. they would have to strip out damn near everything to make that work and people actually like the characters and shit. a "just functions" pokemon game wouldn't be popular, methinks
I mean probably better then now, nur thats essentially every game now (you usually can reduce the volume of voices to 0)That's a very good point, the writing in Pokemon has always been weak, if not flat out terrible in many points, it's a bit easier to stomach if you're merely reading the bad dialogue instead of hearing it said out loud. Though by that point someone could simply argue ''then have audio AND an option to disable said audio'' and they would be correct anyway since a game that sells as well as Pokemon has no excuse for not having higher production values.
I did say you were asking for that, just that a game that's designed around removing the parts people liked (the characters) would be akin to the shit we heard the PR people for Marvel vs Capcom Infinite say. "they're just functions". that didn't go over well for good reasonI dont argue for a just functions üokemon game.
I want a game that is child friendly without thinking its audience is stupid, the mechanics are to complex for 5 year olds so dont write if the audience is 5.
Or if you want to do that, and not have voice over, then at least dont direct scenes as if you have VO.
that's actually not an unpopular opinionUnpopular opinion I guess...
I love Iono! She's so cute! Her VA did a great job. I never thought Pokémon would add something like this in but I want more! >~<
I honestly dont think its an unpopular opinion, i can see how the design resonates.Unpopular opinion I guess...
I love Iono! She's so cute! Her VA did a great job. I never thought Pokémon would add something like this in but I want more! >~<
developing my theorem that the madder pokemon fans get over new pokemon games the more they sell
Just wait for a trailer where they can see the trees closer and it will be a hard stop for pre-orders lolPeople were way madder at Sword & Shield before release.
Because Sword & Shield also had much more things going against it. Scarlet & Violet seem to be way more interesting compared to SS.People were way madder at Sword & Shield before release.
and it still wound up nabbing the second place spot from GS. it would honestly be insane if SV winds up dethroning the original pokemon games.Because Sword & Shield also had much more things going against it. Scarlet & Violet seem to be way more interesting compared to SS.
I disagree that more people are more mad at SV pre-releaseand it still wound up nabbing the second place spot from GS. it would honestly be insane if SV winds up dethroning the original pokemon games.