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Style saavy has been on these era/boards lists for the past two years, idk if it’s gonna happen manoctober: style saavy 5, zelda botw 2
Yeah I know, its rare that +5 year has passes since last style savvy 3DS was released and nothing about a new entry for switch. The only thing that can be happening is that Nintendo wanted to wait until there is a bigger female audience on the console.Style saavy has been on these era/boards lists for the past two years, idk if it’s gonna happen man
It's more likely that "we don't need it, let's save it for 2023" applies to whatever people think would replace BOTW 2 as the Big Holiday Game (3D Mario I assume for most)So... just a couple of thoughts.
I don't get all those "calendar is full, BOTW2 2023 for sure" takes. Like, Nintendo revealed the date like six months ago? They knew for sure what their next calendar year releases would be. It's not like they weren't sure if Splatoon or Metroid or Fire Emblem would be ready and they said "you know... let's make an official announcement for our most expected game, the same game is sorrounded by secrets and which we haven't talked about in two years... yes, that game, let's make an announcement and if next week IS emails us telling FE will be ready we will publicly delay the game". Like, not in a million years Nintendo would make it. If it gets delayed, it'll be because real issues within development or because they decide to push it farther to tie it with a new hardware that should have been get much more seriously impacted than forecasted because even delays are taken in to account when dating products. So, yeah, the whole "Nintendo doesn't need it" it's an objective true that doesn't impact at all the release date of BOTW 2.
Besides that... it's time for 3D Mario, for sure, but it's even more time for 2D Mario. We haven't had a bran new, full 2D Mario in like, what, nine years? Sure, we had SMM2, but we also had Bowser's Fury. I think that, even though Nintendo can totally release a 3D Mario to side with the movie, they can, for sure, decide to launch a 2D Mario instead. The effect (1-2 punch) would be the same, 2D Mario tend to sell even better than 3D counterparts, and EPD 10 is one of the teams that manage to pull an anual release (and their last two games, Pikmin 3 Deluxe and Brain Age, has been mostly co-developed externally). So, if that's the case, I'd say there's even less overlapping with other releases (XC3 and 2D Mario on November/December? That can totally be it).
Lastly... Ring Fit Adventure 2 this year? EPD 4 is the other team with a yearly output and given the massive hit RFA was it'd be a crime to not continue with another game that uses the Ring-Con.
So... just a couple of thoughts.
I don't get all those "calendar is full, BOTW2 2023 for sure" takes. Like, Nintendo revealed the date like six months ago? They knew for sure what their next calendar year releases would be.
Who says it would need to be delayed for that to happen?If it was up to me, I would delay BotW2 to come with the next system at launch. That or Prime 4.
I don't get all those "calendar is full, BOTW2 2023 for sure" takes.
I voted February because I simply think that's most likely but honestly Team January has my heart.I’m too late to vote, but #teamfebruary has my heart!
jesus christ that's good2 Wild 2 Breathe*
* official title, take it to the bank
That's going into my permanent vocabulary, next to SwOLED. Thanks internets!2 Wild 2 Breathe
I did notice that there was a conspicuous lack of any new hardware talk in Nate’s podcast… then again they’re probably tired of talking about it so much with very little new infoWho says it would need to be delayed for that to happen?
Agreed. With all due respect to MVG and Nate (I've got endless amounts of respect for Nate's patience in online discourse), but listening to the podcast I'm once again having trouble seeing the logic behind their reasoning.zelda getting reiterated as 2022 all last year only to be bumped in favor of something not announced yet would be the biggest leapfrog of all time
Agreed. With all due respect to MVG and Nate (I've got endless amounts of respect for Nate's patience in online discourse), but listening to the podcast I'm once again having trouble seeing the logic behind their reasoning.
Last month Nintendo reiterated Zelda for 2022. Why would they then delay it for games that haven't been announced at all yet - hypothetical Mario, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade games that have been completely invisible up until now? I don't see the logic. If anything, Zelda still being planned in 2022 during the Geoffs - at a point where 2022 was probably completely clear for Nintendo from a release schedule point of view - would rather imply that the year is planned around Zelda.
February 9th.So when are we thinking this will happen?
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Maybe. Still it doesn't make sense for anyone to know about a Zelda delay when it was still actively announced for 2022 as of last month . A more logical way of thinking would be that, because the year seems to be ridiculously stacked, unannounced stuff will stay unannounced for a while longer.* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *
I see what you're saying and I've thought that myself in the past. That being said, in this instance, I think it's more the history of the series that's informing the prediction.* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *
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Less than a month to go!February 9th.
I was more thinking along the lines of September the 31st.Breath of the Wild 2's September 30th 2022 release sure is going to take people by surprise.
I did listen to Nate’s podcast this week. I interpreted it more as - Zelda games are often delayed and COVID presents even more challenges. So if it slips into next year they’ll still have plenty for this year.Agreed. With all due respect to MVG and Nate (I've got endless amounts of respect for Nate's patience in online discourse), but listening to the podcast I'm once again having trouble seeing the logic behind their reasoning.
True. I think it is clear when he speculates and when he got some info. And even then things can change quite a bit along the way.Nate has been wrong in the past about things he has said in his podcast and that's okay, I don't take everything he's saying as absolutely truth, sometimes he's just guessing like us.
If you have a Mario, you don’t need Zelda, and vice versa. Whatever we get this year, will push the other to early next year.What are people's thoughts on Pokemon this Q4?
Personally, I'm not counting on Game Freak having another RPG ready in 2022 after Legends. I thought Legends would have DLC, and that might follow the traditional patterns: 1) announced in a Pokemon Day Presentation 2) launches in 2 stages, first part in summer, second in November.
Without Pokemon, Nintendo are short of a solid 15 to 20 million seller late in the year (apart from Zelda). Mario movie aside, I'd expect a major Mario title late this year to complement Zelda. It's also another reason I expect Nintendo to push to have Zelda out in 2022, and why I think this could be a big year for EPD. There isn't really another studio Nintendo can lean on to produce that kind of hit. I know Next Level had a big late year hit with Luigi's Mansion 3 in 2019, but I wouldn't expect them to have something new just yet. And Mario Party, which has exploded on Switch, has just had a new release.
Something I've speculated on before is that EPD 10 is working on a new (non-NSMB) 2d Mario for later this year to complement the movie. Makes sense to me given it has been nearly 3 years since Mario Maker 2. This way they can keep the next big 3d Mario for Switch 2 since they clearly won't have a new 3d Zelda ready in time lolWhat are people's thoughts on Pokemon this Q4?
Personally, I'm not counting on Game Freak having another RPG ready in 2022 after Legends. I thought Legends would have DLC, and that might follow the traditional patterns: 1) announced in a Pokemon Day Presentation 2) launches in 2 stages, first part in summer, second in November.
Without Pokemon, Nintendo are short of a solid 15 to 20 million seller late in the year (apart from Zelda). Mario movie aside, I'd expect a major Mario title late this year to complement Zelda. It's also another reason I expect Nintendo to push to have Zelda out in 2022, and why I think this could be a big year for EPD. There isn't really another studio Nintendo can lean on to produce that kind of hit. I know Next Level had a big late year hit with Luigi's Mansion 3 in 2019, but I wouldn't expect them to have something new just yet. And Mario Party, which has exploded on Switch, has just had a new release.
Difficult to say without knowing how big Arceus really is but I also don't expect them to have the resources for a completely new one this holiday and I don't see them release remakes two years in a row (watch someone pull up receipts about how they've already done that or something).What are people's thoughts on Pokemon this Q4?
Personally, I'm not counting on Game Freak having another RPG ready in 2022 after Legends. I thought Legends would have DLC, and that might follow the traditional patterns: 1) announced in a Pokemon Day Presentation 2) launches in 2 stages, first part in summer, second in November.
Without Pokemon, Nintendo are short of a solid 15 to 20 million seller late in the year (apart from Zelda). Mario movie aside, I'd expect a major Mario title late this year to complement Zelda. It's also another reason I expect Nintendo to push to have Zelda out in 2022, and why I think this could be a big year for EPD. There isn't really another studio Nintendo can lean on to produce that kind of hit. I know Next Level had a big late year hit with Luigi's Mansion 3 in 2019, but I wouldn't expect them to have something new just yet. And Mario Party, which has exploded on Switch, has just had a new release.
With that logic you could easily argue that, if you have Pokemon, you don't need Smash Bros, and yet 2018 had them both plus Mario Party in successive months. 2019 had Pokemon, Luigi's Mansion 3, Ring Fit Adventure in Q4, and a Zelda remake just before the final quarter. Nintendo aren't shy of packing multiple big games into the same holiday period.If you have a Mario, you don’t need Zelda, and vice versa. Whatever we get this year, will push the other to early next year.
My issue with 2D Mario is that Nintendo have had less time to prep a new 2D Mario than they've had for 3D Mario. It's absolutely possible, but support for Mario Maker 2 only wrapped up in early 2020 and there is the pandemic to factor into things. We're in the unusual position whereby the 3 biggest Mario games - Kart, 2D, and 3D - are all sort of due new entries. Obviously, they're not all going to appear at the same time, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see all three over the next 2 years.Something I've speculated on before is that EPD 10 is working on a new (non-NSMB) 2d Mario for later this year to complement the movie. Makes sense to me given it has been nearly 3 years since Mario Maker 2. This way they can keep the next big 3d Mario for Switch 2 since they clearly won't have a new 3d Zelda ready in time lol
I think Pokemon Gen 9 is Holiday 2023
Right. My assumption is Legends has been a big effort, given it's a notable change of direction for the series. But it's absolutely true we really still don't know enough yet to know how this alters Pokemon going forward.Difficult to say without knowing how big Arceus really is but I also don't expect them to have the resources for a completely new one this holiday and I don't see them release remakes two years in a row (watch someone pull up receipts about how they've already done that or something).
I think Pokemon this year is Legends, Legends DLC, and spin-offs. Maybe Detective Pikachu 2 + a new Mystery Dungeon?What are people's thoughts on Pokemon this Q4?
Personally, I'm not counting on Game Freak having another RPG ready in 2022 after Legends. I thought Legends would have DLC, and that might follow the traditional patterns: 1) announced in a Pokemon Day Presentation 2) launches in 2 stages, first part in summer, second in November.
Without Pokemon, Nintendo are short of a solid 15 to 20 million seller late in the year (apart from Zelda). Mario movie aside, I'd expect a major Mario title late this year to complement Zelda. It's also another reason I expect Nintendo to push to have Zelda out in 2022, and why I think this could be a big year for EPD. There isn't really another studio Nintendo can lean on to produce that kind of hit. I know Next Level had a big late year hit with Luigi's Mansion 3 in 2019, but I wouldn't expect them to have something new just yet. And Mario Party, which has exploded on Switch, has just had a new release.
I think 2D Mario is definitely possible - as are the Pokemon spin offs.I think Pokemon this year is Legends, Legends DLC, and spin-offs. Maybe Detective Pikachu 2 + a new Mystery Dungeon?
I'm thinking there could be a 2D Mario title in Q4, but I dunno. I'm bad at speculation.
Yep. I mean, it's early days in 2022, so lots can change... but it being early in 2022 also means Nintendo (and Platinum) have plenty of time to get that stuff sorted.Until Nintendo says otherwise, I'm going to assume BOTW2 and Bayonetta 3 are still scheduled for this year.
That's true, and something I've considered. As a matter of fact though, the unusualness of the long wait between new 3D Mario entries is actually kinda what prompted me to speculate on 2d Mario releasing to have synergy between the film and a huge new Mario release. Given the early adopters of new hardware tend to be more "hardcore" or whatever, and assuming Switch 2 is like, late 2023 or early 2024, and given that Nintendo is already committed to releasing another new 3D Zelda as late as they are on the Switch 1, I figure 3D Mario is the next best "core" crowd-pleaser single-player franchise they could keep for the Switch 2 launch or soon after. Kart is obviously something that seems 99.9% locked as a Switch 2 launch window game given how huge MK8D is and how late we presumably are in the Switch's life.My issue with 2D Mario is that Nintendo have had less time to prep a new 2D Mario than they've had for 3D Mario. It's absolutely possible, but support for Mario Maker 2 only wrapped up in early 2020 and there is the pandemic to factor into things. We're in the unusual position whereby the 3 biggest Mario games - Kart, 2D, and 3D - are all sort of due new entries. Obviously, they're not all going to appear at the same time, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see all three over the next 2 years.