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EvilChameleon said:
I wonder how they're gonna sell cross-gen games. Not from a marketing sense, but from a packaging sense. Especially since, if there's backwards compatibility, why buy the Switch 2 version when you can buy the Switch 1 version?
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I still think the answer would have been one of the cross-gen games being sold as one SKU, which plays in the current Switch console but is enhanced when played on whatever comes next:
Supreme Overlord said:
Nintendo wouldn't have sent Fami into this spiraling angst had they simply opted for the obvious Switch+ title line, where a game is released on Switch and plays in the NXtendo with improvements straight from the cartridge. They would have run a normal direct, and nobody would be the wiser, up until the NXtendo announcement, which adds that these previously announced titles are part of the Switch+ line. Fami hype would ensue, and the servers would crash.
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Basically, it would streamline production and supply lines, keep retail space from being gobbled up by competing copies of the same game, simplify customer decision-making, and solidify the idea of transition from one console to the next. There would be no need to choose between versions for the different consoles because they're the same package.

How those packages are indicated is another question, though. They might have a logo incorporating the logos for each console, perhaps coded in a color between those that delineate the consoles. They would play in either console, so confusion is, perhaps, a bit less of an issue than it might be otherwise, but the messaging would still have to be clear.

Nintendo can use, with the Switch --> NXT setup, the extra retail space left behind by Xbox.
 
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3dsboss said:
I had a quick question about expectations related to the Switch 2 reveal:

If the rumored Direct next week is a Partner Showcase, is the expectation that the console reveal will be bigger in terms of showing games off than the original Switch's reveal? Similar to a presentation? If this isn't the case, are we expecting it to be similar to the original Switch's reveal then?

I'm only asking because the news of a possible Partner does have me a little confused because I feel like even if the reveal is earlier in March than we expected, I don't think it would name or date games, with the expectation from me that something like that would happen in a Switch 2 Presentation. I'm not sure if this question makes sense but what I think I'm trying to say is I don't really know if having a General or Partner really would change the plans for the next console reveal as we, in theory, wouldn't know about the games that reveal shows (if it is a First Look) until the larger presentation? I feel like a General or Mini could still stand alone with Switch 1 reveals that'll be smaller and then three weeks to a month later, a Switch 2 reveal comes about confirming some games we have been speculating about? :)
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Personally, if it's a partner direct, I think my current expectations for how they handle rolling out info for the rest of the year are something like

  • partner direct next week
  • Pokemon Presents later this month. Might have a surprise spin-off coming in the next few months (we're probably due a Mystery Dungeon at this point), they'll presumably have some kind of Pokemon RPG coming this fall but Gamefreak's track record means it was always gonna be "Switch 1-only" so the Pokemon Company will be fine with showing it here
  • Switch 2 reveal early March; brief trailer with some teases and snippets for some new games alongside footage of current Switch games. Ends on a 2024 title card and the promise of more info in the future; some cursory information (including confirmation of backwards compatibility) is relayed via press release
  • TTYD and LM2 get dates and any relevant new info via Twitter drops; guessing April or May for Paper Mario and June or July for LM2; potentially 2 out of the first 6 months this year end up without retail Nintendo releases, a bit sparse for them but not exactly a drought
  • mid to late spring they do a (mini?) direct that's "mostly focused" on Switch 1 games and that's where we get things like FE4 remake and maybe Prime 2/3 to get them through the summer, and they really hammer home "these will all be playable on both Switch 1 and Switch 2"
  • A bit later they do the big "Switch 2 blowout infodump" event, whatever that looks like, that does a deeper dive and confirms things like pricing, release date, launch window lineup, etc
  • September direct leading into an early fall Switch 2 launch?
 
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BlackthornOrion said:
Personally, if it's a partner direct, I think my current expectations for how they handle rolling out info for the rest of the year are something like

  • partner direct next week
  • Pokemon Presents later this month. Might have a surprise spin-off coming in the next few months (we're probably due a Mystery Dungeon at this point), they'll presumably have some kind of Pokemon RPG coming this fall but Gamefreak's track record means it was always gonna be "Switch 1-only" so the Pokemon Company will be fine with showing it here
  • Switch 2 reveal early March; brief trailer with some teases and snippets for some new games alongside footage of current Switch games. Ends on a 2024 title card and the promise of more info in the future; some cursory information (including confirmation of backwards compatibility) is relayed via press release
  • TTYD and LM2 get dates and any relevant new info via Twitter drops; guessing April or May for Paper Mario and June or July for LM2; potentially 2 out of the first 6 months this year end up without retail Nintendo releases, a bit sparse for them but not exactly a drought
  • mid to late spring they do a (mini?) direct that's "mostly focused" on Switch 1 games and that's where we get things like FE4 remake and maybe Prime 2/3 to get them through the summer, and they really hammer home "these will all be playable on both Switch 1 and Switch 2"
  • A bit later they do the big "Switch 2 blowout infodump" event, whatever that looks like, that does a deeper dive and confirms things like pricing, release date, launch window lineup, etc
  • September direct leading into an early fall Switch 2 launch?
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Honestly... this sounds like a pretty sound plan overall and I think I'm mostly in agreement!! I do still hope there is a general this month because I think it would be fun BUT, if the Partner Direct does happen, I think there's a chance that we get a Kirby e-Shop game that could be in one of the months you mention that could be empty, similar to Dream Buffet in 2022! I think the Mini after the reveal but before a showcase is a good call! For a little while I was thinking maybe they could do a mini after the presentation for those that may not adopt immediately, showing that they'll still have some support for a little while longer but I think either direction works!!

I think September will also be around the time the console launches. I do think it'll be earlier because they probably want to get as much shipments of the console out this year for both launch and the holiday, so the earlier in the fall (which I think is the earliest reasonable time we could see it release) they get it on market, the more I think they could have on store shelves - as long as stock is ready! :)
 
Maybe a Partners Direct is good. Because that means this year's patterns are ruled out and it's a kind of a reassurance we are getting the succ announced earlier than we expected.
 
3dsboss said:
if the Partner Direct does happen, I think there's a chance that we get a Kirby e-Shop game that could be in one of the months you mention that could be empty, similar to Dream Buffet in 2022! I think the Mini after the reveal but before a showcase is a good call! For a little while I was thinking maybe they could do a mini after the presentation for those that may not adopt immediately, showing that they'll still have some support for a little while longer but I think either direction works!!
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A Kirby eshop game is a good shout; iirc Part-Time UFO showed up in a partner direct so I could totally see HAL having some smaller digital release up their sleeve to help fill their annual Kirby quota

And yeah, I went back and forth on whether "mini, then presentation" or "presentation, then mini" makes more sense. I landed on the mini coming first so they'd have a bit more time to market anything they have for summer (for instance FE4 remake feels like it could easily be a July/August game to me) before it potentially gets drowned out by next-gen hype. But there'd definitely be a solid argument for either order
 
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BlackthornOrion said:
A Kirby eshop game is a good shout; iirc Part-Time UFO showed up in a partner direct so I could totally see HAL having some smaller digital release up their sleeve to help fill their annual Kirby quota

And yeah, I went back and forth on whether "mini, then presentation" or "presentation, then mini" makes more sense. I landed on the mini coming first so they'd have a bit more time to market anything they have for summer (for instance FE4 remake feels like it could easily be a July/August game to me). But there'd definitely be a solid argument for either order
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I agree! I'm not sure if I think the Kirby game would appear in the Partner Showcase because that's Nintendo IP but I could totally, as you mentioned, see HAL having something in it (and maybe a smaller Kirby e-Shop game announced down the line in May or something)!

I think the direction of Mini and then Presentation works as well, especially with some of the rumored remakes we have like FE4! I guess it really does depend where they want the focus to be after they fully unveil the console and how they'd want to market everything. I was thinking about if we'd get a full Direct before the console launches? I think there's a good chance we do but I wonder how they balance talking about the Switch 1 and 2 games before it even comes out? :)
 
Games they could potentially show in a Partner Showcase:
  • DQ3 HD-2D
  • DQ10 Offline international release
  • Daemon X Machina 2
  • Hyrule/Fire Emblem/Xenoblade/etc Warriors
  • Buddy Mission Bond international release
  • Yakuza ports (this is on the list for Derachi specifically)
 
Mario Musou would make this the best Partner Direct ever

Not quite sure what other third party games could be shown at a Partner Direct that would be for the original Switch. What games have been rumoured/had ratings leaks recently? Beyond Good and Evil 20th anniversary Edition perhaps?
 
MissingNo. said:
Games they could potentially show in a Partner Showcase:
  • DQ3 HD-2D
  • DQ10 Offline international release
  • Daemon X Machina 2
  • Hyrule/Fire Emblem/Xenoblade/etc Warriors
  • Buddy Mission Bond international release
  • Yakuza ports (this is on the list for Derachi specifically)
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Also:
  • Sonic Dream Team
  • Another Eden
  • Fantasian
  • Silksong
  • Yes I know I'm dreaming with all these
  • Chrono Trigger
 
Take the Partner Showcase you're imagining. Now add the Side Order overview, Splatoon 3 and MKD8X tournament mentions, dates for LM2 and TTYD, NSO roadmap update, sizzle reel including MvDK and Showtime, and just one or two other rumored or announced first-party titles. Congratulations, your Partner Showcase has evolved into a general Nintendo Direct.
 
MissingNo. said:
Games they could potentially show in a Partner Showcase:
  • DQ3 HD-2D
  • DQ10 Offline international release
  • Daemon X Machina 2
  • Hyrule/Fire Emblem/Xenoblade/etc Warriors
  • Buddy Mission Bond international release
  • Yakuza ports (this is on the list for Derachi specifically)
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I do feel like people forget Nintendo will show collaborations that use 1st part IP in Partner Directs. Could easily see a new Warriors here.
 
If there's a new Warriors collaboration, it's almost certainly not a Switch 1 exclusive at this point! I wouldn't be expecting any 1st-party IPs in a Partner Showcase right now, given that it's so very easy to upgrade it into a General Direct.

I would, however, expect it to be good either way, reaaaal good.
 
I was just about to say that it feels like it's too early for a new Warriors game and that it was a year and a half between Age of Calamity and Three Hopes, but then I realized it's been longer than that since Three Hopes. What the fuck.
 
Magic-Man said:
I was just about to say that it feels like it's too early for a new Warriors game and that it was a year and a half between Age of Calamity and Three Hopes, but then I realized it's been longer than that since Three Hopes. What the fuck.
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"Time" is an illusion created to fill the gaps between episode transitions. I heard a rumour that some people believe it's February, can you even imagine?
 
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    • Here we are in the home stretch. As we enter our seventh and now seemingly all but assured final week of speculation, one last potential plot twist is upon us. The date has been confirmed by various insiders as February 15th, but just as of this morning new chatter has emerged that believes it to be a Partner Direct. Uh oh! Chaos! Sides are still forming as we speak. Do you believe it’s a Partner, a Mini, or a General? Not too much longer to know for sure!

    With the date set it’s time for our final weekly check in for thread business and our final weekly question. First is a reminder that if Pyoro leaks occur prior to the Direct announcement this thread becomes the spoiler thread which remains in place until the Direct finishes airing or shadowdrops. A non leak thread is encouraged to be made at that time for people who want to bail. Second, The Last Call Summon The Direct Event is currently planned to run for the three nights prior to the expected air date in the hopes to summon the announcement tweet / shadowdropped show. There will be all the info you need when it starts, but if you are unfamiliar from the last Speculation thread, the short version is basically we post and share songs off Youtube to countdown the last few hours to the potential announcement according the theme I choose each night. We all had a lot of fun last time so I’m excited to bring it back! Third, as for the Switch 2 badge challenge, whenever that gets announced I will go back and check the OP to see if anyone won that day so anyone with a prediction past this thread’s life and you win don’t worry I’ll make sure you get it! Finally then, here is our last weekly question!

    Week 7 - What do you most want to see from this Nintendo Direct both realistic and otherwise and why? Also, what games will shadowdrop if any?

    For my own answer, the main thing I want is really to know what games to look forward to and thus budget for up to the Switch 2 launch. Ideally this is a general Direct then so we can know the full line up, but even just third parties will largely cover this need. It’s kind of weird the whole industry just seemingly doesn’t want to talk or commit to anything after April so that’s something I hope this Direct changes. If possible, I’d love to see both Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong after both have been absent for so long. If it is a Partner show, I really hope a new Box Boy or Part Time UFO game pops up at least. As for shadowdrops, obviously Metroid Prime 2 would be most rad. Luigi’s Mansion is probably my second most wanted with Luigi’s Mansion 2 returning. If it’s a Partner, again Box Boy and Part Time UFO would be most cool. The actual shadow drop I expect most regardless of format is Penny’s Big Breakaway which I’m excited for. Just feels like that game is launching very soon.
     
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    Starphanluke said:
    I do feel like people forget Nintendo will show collaborations that use 1st part IP in Partner Directs. Could easily see a new Warriors here.
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    Yeah, new Warriors, or maybe something along the lines of Cadence of Hyrule is a strong possibility.
     
    xghost777 said:
    Here we are in the home stretch. As we enter our seventh and now seemingly all but assured final week of speculation, one last potential plot twist is upon us. The date has been confirmed by various insiders as February 15th, but just as of this morning new chatter has emerged that believes it to be a Partner Direct. Uh oh! Chaos! Sides are still forming as we speak. Do you believe it’s a Partner, a Mini, or a General? Not too much longer to know for sure!

    With the date set it’s time for our final weekly check in for thread business and our final weekly question. First is a reminder that if Pyoro leaks occur prior to the Direct announcement this thread becomes the spoiler thread which remains in place until the Direct finishes airing or shadowdrops. A non leak thread is encouraged to be made at that time for people who want to bail. Second, The Last Call Summon The Direct Event is currently planned to run for the three nights prior to the expected air date in the hopes to summon the announcement tweet / shadowdropped show. There will be all the info you need when it starts, but if you are unfamiliar from the last Speculation thread, the short version is basically we post and share songs off Youtube to countdown the last few hours to the potential announcement according the theme I choose each night. We all had a lot of fun last time so I’m excited to bring it back! Finally then, here is our last weekly question!

    Week 7 - What do you most want to see from this Nintendo Direct both realistic and otherwise and why? Also, what games will shadowdrop if any?

    For my own answer, the main thing I want is really to know what games to look forward to and thus budget for up to the Switch 2 launch. Ideally this is a general Direct then so we can know the full line up, but even just third parties will largely cover this need. It’s kind of weird the whole industry just seemingly doesn’t want to talk or commit to anything after April so that’s something I hope this Direct changes. If possible, I’d love to see both Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong after both have been absent for so long. If it is a Partner show, I really hope a new Box Boy or Part Time UFO game pops up at least. As for shadowdrops, obviously Metroid Prime 2 would be most rad. Luigi’s Mansion is probably my second most wanted with Luigi’s Mansion 2 returning. If it’s a Partner, again Box Boy and Part Time UFO would be most cool. The actual shadow drop I expect most regardless of format is Penny’s Big Breakaway which I’m excited for. Just feels like that game is launching very soon.
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    1. fire emblem genealogy of the holy war remake, metroid prime 1 and 2 remastered, zelda twilight princess hd, zelda the wind waker hd, nier replicant, tekken games 1 to 7 and surprise dlc for mario rabbids sparks of hope with playable rosalina
    2. shadowdrop of hollow knight silksong
     
    xghost777 said:
    Here we are in the home stretch. As we enter our seventh and now seemingly all but assured final week of speculation, one last potential plot twist is upon us. The date has been confirmed by various insiders as February 15th, but just as of this morning new chatter has emerged that believes it to be a Partner Direct. Uh oh! Chaos! Sides are still forming as we speak. Do you believe it’s a Partner, a Mini, or a General? Not too much longer to know for sure!

    With the date set it’s time for our final weekly check in for thread business and our final weekly question. First is a reminder that if Pyoro leaks occur prior to the Direct announcement this thread becomes the spoiler thread which remains in place until the Direct finishes airing or shadowdrops. A non leak thread is encouraged to be made at that time for people who want to bail. Second, The Last Call Summon The Direct Event is currently planned to run for the three nights prior to the expected air date in the hopes to summon the announcement tweet / shadowdropped show. There will be all the info you need when it starts, but if you are unfamiliar from the last Speculation thread, the short version is basically we post and share songs off Youtube to countdown the last few hours to the potential announcement according the theme I choose each night. We all had a lot of fun last time so I’m excited to bring it back! Finally then, here is our last weekly question!

    Week 7 - What do you most want to see from this Nintendo Direct both realistic and otherwise and why? Also, what games will shadowdrop if any?

    For my own answer, the main thing I want is really to know what games to look forward to and thus budget for up to the Switch 2 launch. Ideally this is a general Direct then so we can know the full line up, but even just third parties will largely cover this need. It’s kind of weird the whole industry just seemingly doesn’t want to talk or commit to anything after April so that’s something I hope this Direct changes. If possible, I’d love to see both Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong after both have been absent for so long. If it is a Partner show, I really hope a new Box Boy or Part Time UFO game pops up at least. As for shadowdrops, obviously Metroid Prime 2 would be most rad. Luigi’s Mansion is probably my second most wanted with Luigi’s Mansion 2 returning. If it’s a Partner, again Box Boy and Part Time UFO would be most cool. The actual shadow drop I expect most regardless of format is Penny’s Big Breakaway which I’m excited for. Just feels like that game is launching very soon.
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    Prime 4 is really the only thing if it's General, no need for anything else. Maybe Koizumi's drip too.
     
    xghost777 said:
    Week 7 - What do you most want to see from this Nintendo Direct both realistic and otherwise and why?
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    Realistic: Prime 4. I'm not necessarily super hyped for it, I just wanna see what they've been working on after all this time and speculation. It's the last remaining announced Switch game that we haven't seen anything of so it kinda feels like.. an ending? If that makes sense? Like, it's time.

    Unrealistic: 👇👇👇
    chocolate_supra said:
    • Sonic Dream Team
    • Another Eden
    • Fantasian
    • Silksong
    • Yes I know I'm dreaming with all these
    • Chrono Trigger
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    chocolate_supra said:
    Realistic: Prime 4. I'm not necessarily super hyped for it, I just wanna see what they've been working on after all this time and speculation. It's the last remaining announced Switch game that we haven't seen anything of so it kinda feels like.. an ending? If that makes sense? Like, it's time.

    Unrealistic: 👇👇👇
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    I’m not entirely sure if Chrono Trigger is unrealistic or not. Seems like a game destined to come back in some way perhaps even somewhat soon. I’m always thinking about the Twitter account name, the extra scene in Chrono Cross HD, and more recently there was that big celebration interview/talk thing. Hope so anyway!
     
    I'm assuming that Fire Emblem and Zelda Warriors are off the table, so hopefully it's finally time for Xenoblade Warriors! Either that or something crazy like Golden Sun Warriors.

    Could we still see stuff like a new Zelda game by Grezzo at a Partner Showcase? I'm not sure if that counts or not.
     
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    I see, more people are finally embracing an early March reveal for Switch 2.

    Good, that's the first step. Next you gotta embrace the reveal being a Switch January 2017-style event and the release isn't far off, and thus join Team H1 2024.
    And yes, we do have cookies.

    bixente said:
    If it is a partner showcase, with Unicorn Overload releasing soon, it'd be great to get some of their older releases too:

    Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
    Muramasa
    Dragon's Crown

    And some older Atlus stuff - SMTIV, Devil Survivor 1 and 2, Radiant Historia. I'd be all over that.
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    Wasn't Odin Sphere announced for Switch? I swear i have some partial memories about something like that.

    And Muramasa not being on any modern platform just makes me sad ... what was the reason again? Licencse problems or something?

    MissingNo. said:
    Games they could potentially show in a Partner Showcase:
    • DQ3 HD-2D
    • DQ10 Offline international release
    • Daemon X Machina 2
    • Hyrule/Fire Emblem/Xenoblade/etc Warriors
    • Buddy Mission Bond international release
    • Yakuza ports (this is on the list for Derachi specifically)
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    Yeeeahhh ... as much as i want to see DQ3 HD-2D ... i think it's best not to expect any DQ news, whatever type of Direct ends up happening next week.
     
    JorgenRaft said:
    If Nintendo Ambassadors are flying anywhere currently, it's probably just for Peach or some shit.
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    switch 2's reveal is rumored to be before the game developers conference and princess peach showtime's release day is march 22 after the game developers conference. its a 50/50 chance of switch 2 or princess peach showtime
     
    If you really think about it, Twilight Princess HD could show up in a Partner Showcase because it was developed by Tantalus Media. Yes, I'm high on hopium why do you ask.
     
    Do you know this hardware project that we have kept secret for years? Fuck it, let's show it to the YouTubers before revealing it to the world.

    Yep, its for Princess Peach previews
     
    @xghost777

    Some games I'd like to see
    Pizza Tower
    Videoverse
    Slay the Princess
    GTAIV
    Dark Souls 2 and 3
    Any Yakuza
    Mass Effect Trilogy
    Tomb Raider reboot
    Old Vanillaware games
    Radiant Historia
    SMTIV, Devil Survivor 1 and 2

    Bring on the ports

    @Bonejack sadly there's no current plans for a switch odin Sphere release
     
    Magic-Man said:
    If you really think about it, Twilight Princess HD could show up in a Partner Showcase because it was developed by Tantalus Media. Yes, I'm high on hopium why do you ask.
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    I mean, if you're already on that argument for whatever reasons, you can just go the logical next step and actually expect Fire Emblem there, because IS is a third party studio!

    Their only connection to Nintendo is basically developing exclusively for them and that all of their stuff is co-owned with Nintendo. ;D
     
    Bonejack said:
    I mean, if you're already on that argument for whatever reasons, you can just go the logical next step and actually expect Fire Emblem there, because IS is a third party studio!

    Their only connection to Nintendo is basically developing exclusively for them and that all of their stuff is co-owned with Nintendo. ;D
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    Do you know what game is from a third party studio? Astral chain 2

    giphy.webp
     
    Bonejack said:
    I mean, if you're already on that argument for whatever reasons, you can just go the logical next step and actually expect Fire Emblem there, because IS is a third party studio!

    Their only connection to Nintendo is basically developing exclusively for them and that all of their stuff is co-owned with Nintendo. ;D
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    I was today years old when I learned that IS isn't owned by Nintendo.

    YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS. FIRE EMBLEM 4 REMAKE IS BACK ON THE MENU.
     
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