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Just give me a coconut gun that goes P-THUNG
I think the big part of doing DK again in 3D has to be getting the roll and roll jump right. As much as I love DK 64 the roll move in that game is atrocious and slow. Thinking of all the country games, rolling and roll jumping through the level is quick, fluid and satisfying. I do think you can blend that with both platforming and combat, but time will tell
This was always the level I would show people who had never seen Tropical Freeze before to sell them on the game:Getting 3D mine cart levels that approach the spectacle and creativity of the Retro DKC titles would also be a major boon.
This was always the level I would show people who had never seen Tropical Freeze before to sell them on the game:
Something with this level of energy and atmosphere in full 3D would be unbelievable.
This was always the level I would show people who had never seen Tropical Freeze before to sell them on the game:
Something with this level of energy and atmosphere in full 3D would be unbelievable.
I think that one part of it may be that the game getting the axed is partly to do with Nintendo wanting to bring DK in house, and we obviously don't have an official announcement of EPDK yet, so if VV staf testify about this they would also be (indirectly) leaking one of Nintendos future products? That's my theory at least, besides the usual NDA stuff Nintendo tends to be airtight aboutIs there any fear of litigation from Nintendo if staff from VV or a journalist reports on this cancelled game? Wasn't there some copyright claims from Nintendo on DYKG's channel regarding the pitched Sheik game by Retro Studios?
Even though the cat's out of the bag and many people on this site and DK Vine know about this VV project, do you think journalists or VV staff fear Nintendo's lawyers and that could be why no one's reported on it yet?
I don't see it happening for MP4 but if TotK lives up to the hype and we get at least a DK then yeah it woul be my favorite too.Man, if we manage to get this year both DK and Metroid Prime 4, this year would immediately be my favorite for the Switch hands down.
That did cross my mind. Even though I have been doing a lot of research myself, and doing journalism as a hobby sometimes, I don’t have law expertise to be certain.Is there any fear of litigation from Nintendo if staff from VV or a journalist reports on this cancelled game? Wasn't there some copyright claims from Nintendo on DYKG's channel regarding the pitched Sheik game by Retro Studios?
Even though the cat's out of the bag and many people on this site and DK Vine know about this VV project, do you think journalists or VV staff fear Nintendo's lawyers and that could be why no one's reported on it yet?
Not on the Sheik game, no. On the Zelda Tactics game but that’s only because it had private internal documents in it.Is there any fear of litigation from Nintendo if staff from VV or a journalist reports on this cancelled game? Wasn't there some copyright claims from Nintendo on DYKG's channel regarding the pitched Sheik game by Retro Studios?
Even though the cat's out of the bag and many people on this site and DK Vine know about this VV project, do you think journalists or VV staff fear Nintendo's lawyers and that could be why no one's reported on it yet?
I'd like to imagine a lot will carry over. A lot of what VV was doing was at the behest of Nintendo.Is there any word on what exactly happened to the Vicarious Visions project? Was it completely cancelled or is it still being made in some form? From what it sounds like, it seems that Miyamoto was happy with what they were doing so it doesn't sound right that the whole thing could have been scrapped altogether.
does it fire in spurts?Just give me a coconut gun that goes P-THUNG
if he shoots ya...does it fire in spurts?
...it's gunna hurt.if he shoots ya...
Not wanting to derail the thread, but we need a next DK Speculation Official Thread. Or just rename this thread.
I think EPD will be doing their own thing, at best some very general ideas would cross over into EPDK. The idea of an open 3D game still seems like something we can see in the next DK to me. But Vine grinding? Eh, maybe. Playable Pauline? I really doubt it. She seems to have settled into the "Mario series" designation after Odyssey so I don't see her reappearing in a mainline DK anytime soon. Some of the more general Country elements like Diddy, Rambi and the kritters seem pretty likely though.Is there any word on what exactly happened to the Vicarious Visions project? Was it completely cancelled or is it still being made in some form? From what it sounds like, it seems that Miyamoto was happy with what they were doing so it doesn't sound right that the whole thing could have been scrapped altogether.
That would be extremely disappointing to me. I like Mario, but I don't want the series to absorb the DK franchise. When I'm playing DK, I want it to be him and his crew I'm playing around with. Mario can stay in his lane.Ever since the newest Mario movie trailer showed Donkey Kong getting a fire flower power up, it convinced me that the rumored "Donkey Kong" game from the Mario developers is just a new Mario 3D World where Donkey Kong will be playa me. Launching this fall. Bookmark this.
Thanks so much for the endorsementIf a new thread is needed, I think @KremlingKuthroat is the best user to create it. Kremling has the knowledge of the DK Vine discussions, so I think Kremling is most suited to summarise "THE STORY SO FAR" : p
I'm fairly confident the 2D hirings were for a 2D Mario game but could have been some overlapHow is everyone feeling about the DK game being this year vs next? I know we have 2 Nintendo teams that have been working on 2D games for at least 3+ years thanks to hiring calls. I feel DK will be this year and be pseudo 2D/3D.
Personally, I think a DK game will be released within the release window of the Donkey Kong expansion in Japan in 2024. The reason I italicized the word "a" is because it could either be the EPD game or a Returns remaster. Since the park is based on Returns, I strongly believe that Nintendo will want to rerelease that game to coincide with the park releasing, similar to how they handled the 3D World port releasing alongside the opening of Super Nintendo World in Japan.How is everyone feeling about the DK game being this year vs next? I know we have 2 Nintendo teams that have been working on 2D games for at least 3+ years thanks to hiring calls. I feel DK will be this year and be pseudo 2D/3D.
I'm not optimistic that it comes out this year if it exists. It might end up being a crossgen title at the current rate.How is everyone feeling about the DK game being this year vs next? I know we have 2 Nintendo teams that have been working on 2D games for at least 3+ years thanks to hiring calls. I feel DK will be this year and be pseudo 2D/3D.
I think it just honestly depends on what's Nintendo's strat when it comes to Metroid Prime 4, MonkEPD and whatever 2D Mario game is in store.How is everyone feeling about the DK game being this year vs next? I know we have 2 Nintendo teams that have been working on 2D games for at least 3+ years thanks to hiring calls. I feel DK will be this year and be pseudo 2D/3D.
I certainly hope so.Another interesting piece of evidence pointing against this DK game being 2D is the hiring calls for a 2D game were in 2020. By all accounts this DK game was started by EPD in late 2017-early 2018, basically immediately after Super Mario Odyssey released.
They could've been prototyping ideas for 2-3 years before deciding the game was going to be 2D and then made hiring calls in 2020, but I tend to think that the timing of those 2D hiring calls lines up better for a 2D Mario game since Mario Maker 2 and New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe both released in 2019 and work for the next 2D Mario began soon afterwards.
Another interesting piece of evidence pointing against this DK game being 2D is the hiring calls for a 2D game were in 2020. By all accounts this DK game was started by EPD in late 2017-early 2018, basically immediately after Super Mario Odyssey released.
They could've been prototyping ideas for 2-3 years before deciding the game was going to be 2D and then made hiring calls in 2020, but I tend to think that the timing of those 2D hiring calls lines up better for a 2D Mario game since Mario Maker 2 and New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe both released in 2019 and work for the next 2D Mario began soon afterwards.
Didn’t EPD 10 (the traditional 2D Mario team) put out similar hiring calls around the same time, though? Not necessarily saying the DK project is 2D; it could go either way, really. But it seems weird to me for EPD Tokyo not to be doing a 3D Mario project, since those tend to sell pretty well and Switch Redacted would undoubtedly benefit from something of that caliber. If EPD 10 is doing their own 2D project, it wouldn’t make much sense for Tokyo to be doing a 2D Mario IMO.Another interesting piece of evidence pointing against this DK game being 2D is the hiring calls for a 2D game were in 2020. By all accounts this DK game was started by EPD in late 2017-early 2018, basically immediately after Super Mario Odyssey released.
They could've been prototyping ideas for 2-3 years before deciding the game was going to be 2D and then made hiring calls in 2020, but I tend to think that the timing of those 2D hiring calls lines up better for a 2D Mario game since Mario Maker 2 and New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe both released in 2019 and work for the next 2D Mario began soon afterwards.
Didn’t EPD 10 (the traditional 2D Mario team) put out similar hiring calls around the same time, though? Not necessarily saying the DK project is 2D; it could go either way, really. But it seems weird to me for EPD Tokyo not to be doing a 3D Mario project, since those tend to sell pretty well and Switch Redacted would undoubtedly benefit from something of that caliber. If EPD 10 is doing their own 2D project, it wouldn’t make much sense for Tokyo to be doing a 2D Mario IMO.
That said, assuming the rumours about VV’s project and the new DK game starting development circa 2018-19 are true… might the 2D project be something else entirely? If the EPD DK team was formed from pre-existing members of EPD Tokyo, it would definitely make more sense for it to be 3D or hybrid 2D/3D (think those sidescrolling sections in Galaxy and Odyssey) than pure 2D. For all we know, Nintendo saw Antonblast and Pizza Tower and was like “shit, let’s greenlight a new Wario Land!” or something, and that’s what the 2D hiring call was for.
It could go either way imo. I'm personally satisfied with DK in 2023 with the Mario movie. I never thought I'd see Cranky Kong in a motion picture, and with how much screen time DK is getting, any other DK announcements is gravy for meI'm curious as to if you all think well be seeing a General Direct in the summer or not. Either way I think we'll get a September Direct but if there were, say, a big game coming out at the end of the year (like DK) they would need to announce it a few months in advance. DK is historically announced at E3 as well, but Nintendo won't be attending this year. Not to say DK needs to be announced in the summer for it to exist, but I think if we don't get a summer Direct we won't be seeing DK until next year. That ominous empty second half of Nintnedos year is just begging to be occupied by DK, though! It's a tough call if you ask me