I doubt they'd make anything that level of difficult without it being side content/completely optional. I'm with you, I liked the difficulty of most of the game but I never really touched the God stuff, that's just too much.As much as I love Hollow Knight and am super hyped for Silksong, I do have one major reservation (that will likely be unpopular): the difficulty. I found it satisfying and the right level of hard through the majority of the game but towards the end it really pushed the limits of what I am capable of achieving and a lot of the later DLC just came off as masochistic to me. My worry is Team Cherry doubles down on this for the Silksong as it's extreme difficulty seems to be a large part of it's appeal and popularity with a large portion of the fanbase.
As far as I know they discussed difficulty in either the Edge Magazine interview or a blog post, and they stated that they want to make Silksong as accessible as possible in that regard. The game will probably be the same difficulty as Hollow Knight in the early game and will start cranking it up in the late game, with very difficult optional bosses similar to NGK and AbsradAs much as I love Hollow Knight and am super hyped for Silksong, I do have one major reservation (that will likely be unpopular): the difficulty. I found it satisfying and the right level of hard through the majority of the game but towards the end it really pushed the limits of what I am capable of achieving and a lot of the later DLC just came off as masochistic to me. My worry is Team Cherry doubles down on this for the Silksong as it's extreme difficulty seems to be a large part of it's appeal and popularity with a large portion of the fanbase.
they’re making a gameHonestly, WTF is going on. I get it taking time, but since the e3 demo there wasnt that much, most was reiterating what was shown and anouncements for more platforms.
They are keeping this game mlre to their chest then nintendo does with zelda.
I watched the Treehouse demo on Silksong from 2019 for the first time the other day and audibly lolled when the presenters claimed the developers were hard at work "wrapping up the game"
while the xbox account did confirm silksong being released within a year of their e3 show and then it was re-confirmed by someone close to team cherry on discord, i wouldn't be shocked if that just... doesn't happen. iirc starfield and forza were also confirmed for that window but it seems likely that they'll miss it, it wouldn't be super shocking if silksong also misses it.
Imagine if it doesn’t, though. All the countdowns, drawing-a-days, etc. will have been for nothing lol. I would be disappointed, but I imagine many in the community will take it a lot worse. At least I have Zelda in May and FFXVI in June. If we get to the end of the summer and we still haven’t heard anything, then I might get a little frustrated, but for now I’m trying to just go with the flow.while the xbox account did confirm silksong being released within a year of their e3 show and then it was re-confirmed by someone close to team cherry on discord, i wouldn't be shocked if that just... doesn't happen. iirc starfield and forza were also confirmed for that window but it seems likely that they'll miss it, it wouldn't be super shocking if silksong also misses it.
to be fair Team Cherry had never used the phrase “coming soon” and was surprised that those were the words Nintendo choseAfterall, we're soon 4 years out from this:
It'll be fantastic once it shows up though!
Agreed. The radio silence from TC themselves, while at the same time allowing xbox and playtesters to give release windows makes me think:to be fair Team Cherry had never used the phrase “coming soon” and was surprised that those were the words Nintendo chose
but yeah, it’ll be real once it’s real, and I won’t get caught up in a bunch before that!
I do truly think that if a release date hasn’t dropped by June, something in platform verification / testing has gone wrong — I believe that Team Cherry really truly intends to release it by June
Awesome to hear. My wife tried and had a great deal of difficulty as well. Eventually, instead of her giving up, we agreed that I would fight the bosses for her. She managed to do everything including the White Palace. I hope one day she'll try to do the bosses as well, but for now I'm just glad that she got to experience what she did.Agreed. The radio silence from TC themselves, while at the same time allowing xbox and playtesters to give release windows makes me think:
1. That they were like 95% sure they'd make that time frame, but didn't want to give a direct, full-throated confirmation (since schedules slipped multiple times for HK and makes sense with their development style of a kind of controlled "content creep"),
2. That they really are just trying to wrap up, polish and test the game asap
In the meantime, I managed to convince my wife to play Hollow Knight, as she knew it's among my favourite games. She never played games much until the Switch where she got into Animal Crossing, Odyssey, Splatoon & BotW (but mostly exploring with majoras mask on so she didn't have to fight). But she's still very much on the casual side.
Hollow Knight is by far the most difficult game she's played. Watching her struggle early on with platforming, early enemies, dying over and over to Gruz Mother, I wasn't sure how long she would last. I've been playing difficult games since I was little and I still really struggled with HK on my first playthrough. She became frustrated and felt like giving up at a few points saying "this game isn't for me". But she persevered, slowly learned the movement, how to pogo enemies and up-slash. And she has now beaten Soul Master, Dung Defender, Broken Vessel and is currently up to the Kingdom's Edge Hornet fight! It's been really awesome to watch! She is really enjoying the game and while still finds it difficult, feels very satisfied when she learns and overcomes a boss she thought was near impossible at first.
to be fair Team Cherry had never used the phrase “coming soon” and was surprised that those were the words Nintendo chose
but yeah, it’ll be real once it’s real, and I won’t get caught up in a bunch before that!
I do truly think that if a release date hasn’t dropped by June, something in platform verification / testing has gone wrong — I believe that Team Cherry really truly intends to release it by June
God I love stories like this, I'm glad your wife is enjoying the game <3Agreed. The radio silence from TC themselves, while at the same time allowing xbox and playtesters to give release windows makes me think:
1. That they were like 95% sure they'd make that time frame, but didn't want to give a direct, full-throated confirmation (since schedules slipped multiple times for HK and makes sense with their development style of a kind of controlled "content creep"),
2. That they really are just trying to wrap up, polish and test the game asap
In the meantime, I managed to convince my wife to play Hollow Knight, as she knew it's among my favourite games. She never played games much until the Switch where she got into Animal Crossing, Odyssey, Splatoon & BotW (but mostly exploring with majoras mask on so she didn't have to fight). But she's still very much on the casual side.
Hollow Knight is by far the most difficult game she's played. Watching her struggle early on with platforming, early enemies, dying over and over to Gruz Mother, I wasn't sure how long she would last. I've been playing difficult games since I was little and I still really struggled with HK on my first playthrough. She became frustrated and felt like giving up at a few points saying "this game isn't for me". But she persevered, slowly learned the movement, how to pogo enemies and up-slash. And she has now beaten Soul Master, Dung Defender, Broken Vessel and is currently up to the Kingdom's Edge Hornet fight! It's been really awesome to watch! She is really enjoying the game and while still finds it difficult, feels very satisfied when she learns and overcomes a boss she thought was near impossible at first.
Very nice! Funnily enough, the only parts my wife has asked me to do for her so far are some tricky platforming bits, so not sure how she'll find White PalaceAwesome to hear. My wife tried and had a great deal of difficulty as well. Eventually, instead of her giving up, we agreed that I would fight the bosses for her. She managed to do everything including the White Palace. I hope one day she'll try to do the bosses as well, but for now I'm just glad that she got to experience what she did.
I bought her a Hornet shirt for Xmas last year and she loves it.
Thanks! I'm really glad she is tooGod I love stories like this, I'm glad your wife is enjoying the game <3
I forget my exact sources on this but I’m confident that Team Cherry never planned on 2020Yeah the word soon is always bad to use, because it can be read in different ways and leaves a lot to the imagination.
However Silksong was in the official 'games coming in 2020' email from Nintendo, which I doubt they would add TC to if they didnt allow it - so at some point it was definitely coming in 2020, much like at some point Silksong was 100% coming in this next 12 months at Xbox's summer presentation last year.
My point was just - I'm not going to bank on a release frame/time until Team Cherry themselves says something hah.
Stuff can happen in development be it pandemic, change of scope, troubles with development or what not, especially when it's a small team.
I forget my exact sources on this but I’m confident that Team Cherry never planned on 2020
and I thought the email in question included it as a “maybe coming soon!” but I once again don’t recall
I have no doubt that Nintendo assumed that instead of having confirmation from Team Cherry, and that marketing emails can be all kinds of wrong with limited information. Believe me — I’ve DONE marketing emails that turned out wrong based on what a company said they thought was happening.
but yeah, I definitely don’t blame you for being cautious. we’ll see it when we see it and not a second sooner.
no worries! I’m pretty sure someone from Team Cherry said it in Discord but it’s impossible to keep track of that stuffNope the the newsletter was pretty specific about it being games coming in 2020, nothing vague like coming soon - some were dated, some werent but all were according to the newsletter slated for 2020 and every single one outside of Silksong hit 2020 which is why I am certain of that 2020 was the original plan.
For the infographic, heres a picture of it: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2...coming_to_switch_in_2020_with_new_infographic
But if there's a more reliablie source than Nintendo here claiming this was never the plan, I'll just take your word for it :>
no worries! I’m pretty sure someone from Team Cherry said it in Discord but it’s impossible to keep track of that stuff
my best bet here is that because Nintendo always has “coming soon” games set to the last day of the current year, it appeared to be “close enough” for marketing
it’s telling that the original placeholder date in Steam was June 2021 — which they picked arbitrarily as being exactly three years from their Switch release — so I don’t think they ever thought 2020 was on the table
but again, this is mostly conjecture and my memory is shit — so your understanding may turn out to be much closer than mine! mysteries we’ll someday know answers to…
for the record the new placeholder date is like 2027 / 2028 and they stated these were “very much only placeholders” and said something about the release window being true
idk now though, I’m questioning everything I thought I had a grip on
firm agree, I’m boundlessly excitedHopefully Team Cherry will spill some beans down the road, because game looked pretty damn good at treehouse in 2019. Another 4 years of dev time on top of that is kinda wild, wonder what they've been up to =)
I'm just super confident in the game turning out really really good so I'm just waiting for the good stuff to happen hehe
saw that earlier! bookmarked to watch laterOn the plus side, mossbag dropped a 56 minute long HK video today
Feb is out the table but we're getting cool games very soon and big announcements before the E3. Only 4 months folks, we can do this!February is probably off the table now, huh? I guess the most we can do is count down the days until June 12th and hope we'll get lucky and hear something before then.
I am tired.
It’s kind of become taboo in the community to say this, but I don’t think you’re wrong. I don’t think a blog post every six months would’ve been too much to ask.The communication from Team Cherry with Silksong has been absolutely terrible. Like I don't expect constant updates or anything, but some simple community engagement would be nice.
I see Starfield launching in June with a blowout trailer in marchwhile the xbox account did confirm silksong being released within a year of their e3 show and then it was re-confirmed by someone close to team cherry on discord, i wouldn't be shocked if that just... doesn't happen. iirc starfield and forza were also confirmed for that window but it seems likely that they'll miss it, it wouldn't be super shocking if silksong also misses it.