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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST6| It’s Prime Time For Some More Wonderful Speculation! (Spoiler Crowd, Remain In This Thread Until The Direct Ends!)

What Metroid Prime Games Are Showing Up At The Next Nintendo Direct?

  • Metroid Prime 4! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2 and 3! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2 and 4! I #trusttheprocess.

  • Metroid Prime 2, 3, and 4! I #trusttheprocess.

  • No Numbered Games, But Something New And / Or Cool! I #trusttheprocess.

  • I #trusttheprocess, but it will test us with nothing for now.

  • The process has forsaken us and I have forsaken it.

  • Only Metroid Prime Federation Force HD For Some Reason.

  • Just A Random JPEG Of Sylux In HD.

  • Nothing, Not Even Metroid Prime Pinball. Crocomire Is Still Dead. Just Endless Despair.

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Magic-Man said:
I trust Grove Street Games more than Arzest and that's saying something
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man you are gonna hate this direct...


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DJBass88 said:
Fair questions. As always, Lets go under the hood with... DATA.

2002 - MP - 3M
2004 - MP2 - 1.1M
2006 - Metroid Prime Hunters - 1M
2007 - MP3 - 1.4M
2010 - Metroid Other M - 1.36M
2017 - Metroid Samus Returns - 500K
2021 - Metroid Dread - 3M
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2023 - Fire Emblem Engage - 1.6M
2019 - Fire Emblem 3 houses - 4.1M
2017 - Fire Emblem Echoes - 900K
2016 - Fire Emblem Fates - 3M
2013 - Fire Emblem Awakening - 2.4M
2007 - Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn - 500K

First off, I may be wrong here regarding Fire emblem. Its sales were higher than I remember. Ill have to adjust my opinion/Analysis. Second, Obviously we do not have the financial records of Nintendo (Even though as a shareholder I could ask) so we need to do some educated guessing. From the data, We see Fire Emblem have major releases more often than Metroid so one could reasonably assume development time is much shorter and therefore with the roughly higher avg sales, comes out on top if we consider profit per IP.
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Any source that cites Other M being a million seller is dead wrong lol.

www.installbaseforum.com

Nintendo software and hardware sales data from 1983 to present

I'm going to keep this thread updated with new, more up to date info whenever is possible. UPDATED WITH DATA UNTIL DECEMBER 2023 独創 What does the following data represent? The data here presented is either financial data or shipment data provided by Nintendo itself directly from Nintendo's...
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(somewhat outdated because dread has passed 3 million now, but yeah)

We also don't know the exact sales of Samus Returns because it was not a million seller. Nintendo never officially reports those types of games.
 
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Dinoman96 said:
Any source that cites Other M being a million seller is dead wrong lol.

www.installbaseforum.com

Nintendo software and hardware sales data from 1983 to present

I'm going to keep this thread updated with new, more up to date info whenever is possible. UPDATED WITH DATA UNTIL DECEMBER 2023 独創 What does the following data represent? The data here presented is either financial data or shipment data provided by Nintendo itself directly from Nintendo's...
www.installbaseforum.com www.installbaseforum.com

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(somewhat oudated because dread has passed 3 million now, but yeah)

We also don't know the exact sales of Samus Returns because it was not a million seller. Nintendo never officially reports those types of games.
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AlwaysOnDeck said:
We are all pretty much aware that Prime 4 is releasing next year. I feel like the January Direct is the sweet spot to reveal it - start the year off with a bang. That, or Game Awards.
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I feel like showing in the September Direct already is the better way to start the hype for the game. Whether we get another trailer during The Geoffs or another trailer in February for a spring release is another question.
SpaceGodzilla said:
if Eurogamer's report is correct much sooner then june
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I mean it just says Nintendo would release it earlier if possible. But how much earlier? If they're now aiming to release the console in Q2, then sure.

CyberWolfJV said:
DLC for an existing game, they already marketed a whole bunch? sure.. Breath of the Wild also was just getting further footage/information through Geoff's events. But I don't think Nintendo will ever premiere such big thing on a TGA; Ultimately, it's for their benefit that the eyes are just on them in a Direct.

Their reveal trailers on TGA were always minor things like Bayonetta 3 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3.
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Yeah, I think it might get a second trailer at the TGA but definitely won't be revealed there. Nintendo ain't gonna want to compete for the spotlight with like tens of AAA games being shown there. They'll want to announce in their own terms and have all the lights on the game.
LuckyNumber69 said:
Wait wait wait wait... hold on. Since when does Fire Emblem have "lower in comparison" sales to Metroid?? Since when did Metroid have comparable sales to Zelda?

Also (addressing the second post): since when did FE cost "way less" to make than Metroid? I mean, first of all, how would you even be able to quantify that unless you work at Nintendo? Second, are you forgetting all the voice acting, CG cutscenes, etc. that FE games have?
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FE has comparable sales to Metroid. Metroid with the exception of GCN and NES has never been comparable to Zelda in sales, not even close to it.

I think FE can cost way less than Metroid due to the development cycles being shorter and usually having smaller development teams. Sure, Three Houses and Engage got their costs raised with all the voice acting and stuff, but games like Metroid Prime 4 are in for 5 year+ development cycles while TH had 2.5. I think it's not a super bold prediction to say that Metroid Dread and Prime 4 probably did cost more to make than Engage and Three Houses.
 
Moltres006 said:
i can see this being another mercury steam situation where they from making bad games like mirror of fate/Lords of shadows 2 to great games.
Though Nintendo is going to be on their asses to guarantee the games are great.
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yeah, I'm really glad this one went through
 
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AlwaysOnDeck said:
I thought digital sales weren't reported by NPD, but we're reported by Nintendo. Does this imply that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's 55 million is physical copies, only? Lol
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No, the numbers are retail + digital but it's only titles that also got a retail release so no stuff like Good Job and the likes.
 
I remember when all the persisting rumors of a Link's Awakening remake for the 3DS, was always attached to a Virtual Boy Wario Land remake...

Well.. we've got the LA Remake all these years after.. still no love for VB Wario Land :|
 
Moltres006 said:
i can see this being another mercury steam situation where they from making bad games like mirror of fate/Lords of shadows 2 to great games.
Though Nintendo is going to be on their asses to guarantee the games are great.
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I mean

That certainly didn't work out for Yoshi's Island DS, Yoshi's New Island, etc
 
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I swear we had this whole fe Metroid sales discussion before and subtracting outlier games like fe encore or federation force, the average sales per game were extremely close at like 1.5 mil or smth with Metroid maybe having a slight lead?

However I do also remember that metroids sales were largely concentrated in wonders like prime or dread while fe is far more consistent since awakening.

Additionally considering how quick fes can be churned out compared to a Metroid, the difference in design, and graphics if I had to bet it’s probably likely that fe has a higher profit margin.
Source: my ass I’m too lazy to find the thread with the data lmao
 
CyberWolfJV said:
I remember when all the persisting rumors of a Link's Awakening remake for the 3DS, was always attached to a Virtual Boy Wario Land remake...

Well.. we've got the LA Remake all these years after.. still no love for VB Wario Land :|
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Great game! Maybe not as polished or innovative as later Wario Lands, but a lot of fun nonetheless. Having played most of the American library, I can confidently say it's the best thing on the system. (Galactic Pinball is fun, but it's hard to mess up pinball.) Shame Nintendo didn't port it over on the 3DS.
 
neon said:
I swear we had this whole fe Metroid sales discussion before and subtracting outlier games like fe encore or federation force, the average sales per game were extremely close at like 1.5 mil or smth with Metroid maybe having a slight lead?

However I do also remember that metroids sales were largely concentrated in wonders like prime or dread while fe is far more consistent since awakening.

Additionally considering how quick fes can be churned out compared to a Metroid, the difference in design, and graphics if I had to bet it’s probably likely that fe has a higher profit margin.
Source: my ass I’m too lazy to find the thread with the data lmao
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FE has a super high franchise profit margin in that the games cross-promote through FE Heroes and that damn gacha stuff generated a billion dollars at the last count or something like that.
 
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Raccoon said:
yeahing not because I think this bewildering scenario is likely but because it would be super cool if it did
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Not sure it's that bewildering. If there is an expectation to release Metroid Prime 2 and 3, and F-Zero GX, then getting both Luigi's Mansion games is likely a higher priority - seeing that LM3 sold more than every game in either franchise, combined.
 
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fuck it, my three most wanted Direct items

  • Rusty's Very Real Baseball, for use with the LABO VR Kit
  • Virtual Boy NSO, including Bound High!, for use with the LABO VR Kit
  • new Wave Race with ray tracing for use with the Nintendo Switch 2
 
The most consistent pattern preceding Nintendo Directs is a not-insignificant percentage of the Famiboards community posting pictures of fast food and pizza
 
CyberWolfJV said:
I remember when all the persisting rumors of a Link's Awakening remake for the 3DS, was always attached to a Virtual Boy Wario Land remake...

Well.. we've got the LA Remake all these years after.. still no love for VB Wario Land :|
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I was thinking about this the other day. I don't think Nintendo would release it by itself these days though I'd love it as an unlockable in a full fat new Wario Land/World game. Maybe Wario can find a Virtual Boy looking relic that lets him play it lol.
 
soundchaser said:
Great game! Maybe not as polished or innovative as later Wario Lands, but a lot of fun nonetheless. Having played most of the American library, I can confidently say it's the best thing on the system. (Galactic Pinball is fun, but it's hard to mess up pinball.) Shame Nintendo didn't port it over on the 3DS.
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Nintendo not adding Virtual Boy games on 3DS Virtual Console was their biggest missed opportunity; But now on Switch.. they could potentially dump all their (feasible releasable) VB games at once on a NSO app.. even if won't be the same thing without the 3D effect.. oooor remake select games like Wario Land.
 
Blue Monty said:
vgc data is as accurate as me spinning a wheel to decide how many units a game has sold.
For Nintendo games always use https://www.installbaseforum.com/fo...hardware-sales-data-from-1983-to-present.170/ , if a game isnt here it means it has sold less than 1m or is digital only (they not share data for digital games in general to the public or CESA)
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I have a different set of data available to me as a member of Nikkei. VG chartz is close enough I've found. We can argue all day about plus, minus 100k or so but the points I've made in previous posts remain. All of this discussion borders subjective. There are no hardline facts in determining whats more important to Nintendo and what their future support for the IP will be.

Doesnt mean we cant have fun speculating however.
 
DJBass88 said:
I have a different set of data available to me as a member of Nikkei. VG chartz is close enough I've found. We can argue all day about plus, minus 100k or so but the points I've made in previous posts remain. All of this discussion borders subjective. There are no hardline facts in determining whats more important to Nintendo and what their future support for the IP will be.

Doesnt mean we cant have fun speculating however.
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Nikkei gives worldwide sales numbers?
 
Thread's been so wild I haven't even stopped to think through the fact that the next Direct is actually imminent
 
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