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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST5| Uncharted Territory: Drake's Deception

When is the next general full-length Direct?

  • June

    Votes: 130 38.0%

  • July

    Votes: 40 11.7%

  • August

    Votes: 15 4.4%

  • September

    Votes: 129 37.7%

  • October

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • November

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • December

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • January

    Votes: 13 3.8%

  • February

    Votes: 1 0.3%

  • Never

    Votes: 11 3.2%
  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Nakapol said:
countdown until when direct is suppose to announce

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I’m scared!!!!!!!!
 
If there are Mario 2D and a Full Remake of the of Mario RPG are this year, then almost for sure is TTYD Is not 2023, more probable that F-Zero is this quarter
 
1 page in 2 hours, we’re slipping a bit here. Still plenty of time to hit page 230 though. Let’s get some posts going with Europe waking up!
 
GamerJM said:
I didn't know you were European (I kinda assume most people on sites like here are in North America since I thought Europe had their own forums). I'm now relistening to your old posts (in my head) wherein you were so sure of things with a catty British accent .
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I don't think there are European forums, unless you mean local like French, German etc. I have been in gaf, era and now fami cause I view them as global communities with way more people than I could ever find on a greek forum (which are mostly dead now anyway).
 
GamerJM said:
I didn't know you were European (I kinda assume most people on sites like here are in North America since I thought Europe had their own forums). I'm now relistening to your old posts (in my head) wherein you were so sure of things with a catty British accent .
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Plenty of peeps from Europe on here as well! Maybe slightly more Americans still, but it seems to be a pretty global community
 
xghost777 said:
In the interest of kickstarting discussion, what game / announcement are you most excited about for the seemingly happening Nintendo Direct this week. This is not necessarily the announcement you most believe will be there, but one you want to see most that you do think has a good enough shot of being there.

For me, it’s 100% Metroid Prime 4. It has been six years since it was announced and all we have really is some Facebook art. It’s time to see it and at least get some sense what it is about as it is the next “big” Switch game with Zelda out.
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Fossil Fighters for sure this time! Right? ...Right?

Actually though, I feel like we'll get a new Nintendogs here. I can't explain it, but my gut is just saying that we'll get one and there will be a Switch Lite bundle with it and cute little pawprints on the shell as part of a holiday push.
 
Raccoon said:
Alright everyone, I've just updated the OP for what I expect to be the penultimate time. I'd like to close out my time as OP with some introspective remarks.

I've spent much of this year's hype cycles stewing in resentment of the regularity of the Nintendo news cycle and the precision with which some can now predict it. My mentality was one of chaos worship as I longed for the uncertain times for Nintendo news of years past. In addition to 2020, which I see as the height of these threads despite the lack of an actual Direct that year, Direct hype as we've come to understand it began in a very uncertain time for news about Nintendo Switch: the start of 2018. The first new year for Nintendo Switch brought with it great intrigue, as we didn't yet understand how the software composition of the platform would look in the years to come.

However, the past several days have brought me to the conclusion that my yearning for this feeling is misguided. What we all see embodied in @LukasManak22 is the maturation of Direct speculation: a robust commitment to facts, reason, and understanding of why Nintendo will do what and when. Yes, he knew exactly when the February Direct would be, as did many others, based on precedent alone. This week however will be a triumph for simple reasoning: there are no Nintendo games after Pikmin, and they need to have them announced by the financial briefing on Friday. It was cognizance of Nintendo that brought us here, not just a passive deference to patterns. I, for one, am very satisfied by how this story ends, though I wouldn't have said so mere weeks ago.

As I said before, Direct speculation has matured, both fundamentally and superficially. Our improved understanding of how Nintendo markets games represents a fundamental maturation of this endeavor, while the simple fact that we are now on-topic more than not represents immense superficial improvement. Indeed, the community finding a home has created a superior environment for both casual discussions and enthusiast ones like this. While the circumstances that led to its creation were obviously distinct from this, I have to thank @bellydrum for improving the activity of this community in an effort merely to save it.

As an aside, the third discussion topic that I previously alluded to felt unneeded and outright counterproductive as the thread gained momentum. While I consider the guided discussions great appetizers and their creation a success, this thread no longer has use for any guidance at all. Where we're going we don't need rails.

I hope that every last one of you gets something out of this week's Nintendo Direct. For the first time in a few years, I'm feeling excited myself.
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Thanks for running the thread compadre, and I'm glad to see excitement return. It'll be a noble day for terminally online nutjobs such as myself to see a new 2D Mario announced this week, thus altering the space-time continuum enough that we may well avoid the Dringest Timeline.
Derachi said:
Unreal Engine, huh?
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kirbyfan407 said:
Those are some cool screenshots, but is this also confirming Pikmin 4 was built in Unreal Engine? I see an Unreal Engine logo. EDIT: In another world, I'd have seen Derachi's post and just Yeah'd it.

One of those screenshots is giving me strong Chibi-Robo!! vibes. 🫶
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This is a really interesting spot, and somebody else has already pointed out what I was thinking:
mariodk18 said:
Makes sense that it's Pikmin 4 because I recall Miyamoto was the one himself who said Nintendo had "mastered" the use of UE4 and/or Unity years back ( might've even been Switch launch).
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Miyamoto did indeed say this! At the time, he seemed like he was talking about how EPD had familiarised itself with external game engines and he specifically mentioned Unreal 4. It's interesting that this is being used for Pikmin 4 when many EPD projects have moved to a shared internally built engine.
coolcam52 said:
I'm leaning towards the rest of Nintendo's 2023 looking something like this atm

June - Everybody 1-2-Switch, MK8 DLC
July - Pikmin 4
August - Nothing
September - SMRPG Remake, Pokemon DLC
October - F-Zero GX HD, MK8 DLC
November - 2D Mario
December - Pokemon DLC

I think in this scenario the direct would open with 2D Mario and probably end with a Prime 4 reveal with a vague 2024 date, with Pikmin 4, SMRPG and Pokemon DLC getting dedicated sections in the middle to break up the headlines.
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This seems pretty reasonable. Wildcards for me are things like eShop only games (HAL pls?), a potential Pokemon spin-off, potential Zelda DLC, and perhaps a budget title like Rhythm Heaven.
 
DenkeyKong said:
Either Prime 4 or 2D Mario for me. Extremely curious to see what they've come up with for the latter
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Ofc I'm still the most excited for Pikmin 4 no doubt about it, but I'll probably try and look away during the direct segment. I was already sold during the reveal screenshots back in September
 
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the main reason i think prime 4 is gonna be here is because i think nintendo will want to talk about it at gamescom, would be odd to come back after 4 years just to push 2D mario to the core gaming audience
 
MisterSpo said:
This seems pretty reasonable. Wildcards for me are things like eShop only games (HAL pls?), a potential Pokemon spin-off, potential Zelda DLC, and perhaps a budget title like Rhythm Heaven.
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oh man i desperately hope we get a new Rhythm Heaven, i definitely feel like theres another game or two that could fit into the schedule but all that was coming to mind was mario and i cant see 3 mario games in 3 or 4 months. more smaller stuff in the vein of boxboy or even intsys or gamefreak coming back with something like pushmo or harmoknight would be awesome too.

im not feeling zelda dlc, at least not so soon. it sounds like base totk went gold close to launch, pretty sure botws only came so fast because the final delay was done just to push it to switch
 
Raccoon said:
Alright everyone, I've just updated the OP for what I expect to be the penultimate time. I'd like to close out my time as OP with some introspective remarks.

I've spent much of this year's hype cycles stewing in resentment of the regularity of the Nintendo news cycle and the precision with which some can now predict it. My mentality was one of chaos worship as I longed for the uncertain times for Nintendo news of years past. In addition to 2020, which I see as the height of these threads despite the lack of an actual Direct that year, Direct hype as we've come to understand it began in a very uncertain time for news about Nintendo Switch: the start of 2018. The first new year for Nintendo Switch brought with it great intrigue, as we didn't yet understand how the software composition of the platform would look in the years to come.

However, the past several days have brought me to the conclusion that my yearning for this feeling is misguided. What we all see embodied in @LukasManak22 is the maturation of Direct speculation: a robust commitment to facts, reason, and understanding of why Nintendo will do what and when. Yes, he knew exactly when the February Direct would be, as did many others, based on precedent alone. This week however will be a triumph for simple reasoning: there are no Nintendo games after Pikmin, and they need to have them announced by the financial briefing on Friday. It was cognizance of Nintendo that brought us here, not just a passive deference to patterns. I, for one, am very satisfied by how this story ends, though I wouldn't have said so mere weeks ago.

As I said before, Direct speculation has matured, both fundamentally and superficially. Our improved understanding of how Nintendo markets games represents a fundamental maturation of this endeavor, while the simple fact that we are now on-topic more than not represents immense superficial improvement. Indeed, the community finding a home has created a superior environment for both casual discussions and enthusiast ones like this. While the circumstances that led to its creation were obviously distinct from this, I have to thank @bellydrum for improving the activity of this community in an effort merely to save it.

As an aside, the third discussion topic that I previously alluded to felt unneeded and outright counterproductive as the thread gained momentum. While I consider the guided discussions great appetizers and their creation a success, this thread no longer has use for any guidance at all. Where we're going we don't need rails.

I hope that every last one of you gets something out of this week's Nintendo Direct. For the first time in a few years, I'm feeling excited myself.
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I'm so Grateful for your presence here on Fami, thanks for this thread my friend.
 
coolcam52 said:
I'm leaning towards the rest of Nintendo's 2023 looking something like this atm

June - Everybody 1-2-Switch, MK8 DLC
July - Pikmin 4
August - Nothing
September - SMRPG Remake, Pokemon DLC
October - F-Zero GX HD, MK8 DLC
November - 2D Mario
December - Pokemon DLC

I think in this scenario the direct would open with 2D Mario and probably end with a Prime 4 reveal with a vague 2024 date, with Pikmin 4, SMRPG and Pokemon DLC getting dedicated sections in the middle to break up the headlines.
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Pokemon dlc is probably Oct-Nov for 1st, Jan-Feb for 2nd imo. I don't think they'd release it on December.
 
xghost777 said:
In the interest of kickstarting discussion, what game / announcement are you most excited about for the seemingly happening Nintendo Direct this week. This is not necessarily the announcement you most believe will be there, but one you want to see most that you do think has a good enough shot of being there.

For me, it’s 100% Metroid Prime 4. It has been six years since it was announced and all we have really is some Facebook art. It’s time to see it and at least get some sense what it is about as it is the next “big” Switch game with Zelda out.
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Super Mario RPG Remake.

If that is real - I will simply lose my mind!
 
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coolcam52 said:
the main reason i think prime 4 is gonna be here is because i think nintendo will want to talk about it at gamescom, would be odd to come back after 4 years just to push 2D mario to the core gaming audience
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You say core, but everybody plays Mario, especially the 2D variety. And speaking for myself, I'm hungry for a new mainline SMB game after a decade gap since NSMBU.
 
NintendoPrime said:
Pokémon Presents began in 2013. Pokémon has been in directs since then and no, not just NSO stuff. In March of 2020, sword and shield
Expansion pass information was in a Nintendo Direct Mini. Pokémon Snap was in the September 21’ direct. In fact, Pokémon is a regular in the September directs, and occasionally in the June ones (though typically based around E3), and often contains new news on the games.

You’re simply incorrect stating Pokémon news doesn’t happen in directs anymore. It’s actually quite common. They just don’t typically announce NEW Pokémon games in a direct anymore.
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Pokémon Presents began in June 2020. Before that, they were Pokémon Directs, and Pokémon information would be mixed in to normal Directs.

Since the switch the the Pokémon Presents brand, Pokémon announcements have been entirely absent from Directs. The only things that even approach being exceptions are being an incidental part of the NSO lineup announcements, but that's obviously very different from talking about current games. If a Pokémon game on NSO were to ever actually intersect with the current games, we'd probably hear about it in a Pokémon Presents.
 
Yeah I feel like, if Pokemon stuff is coming soon, a dedicated Pokemon Presents would happen. Especially if spin offs need announcing. There's nothing to say the marketing for the series can't change, but the introduction of the Presents branding in 2020 does seem to have created a pretty clear demarcation.
 
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mariodk18 said:
You say core, but everybody plays Mario, especially the 2D variety. And speaking for myself, I'm hungry for a new mainline SMB game after a decade gap since NSMBU.
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oh yeah same here, didnt mean to disparage 2D mario. i just dont think gamescom is a venue youd spend the time and money to attend to advertise it
 
coolcam52 said:
the main reason i think prime 4 is gonna be here is because i think nintendo will want to talk about it at gamescom, would be odd to come back after 4 years just to push 2D mario to the core gaming audience
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I'd imagine Nintendo would only showcase games releasing in 2023, in the Direct or at Gamescom, with maybe one exception for the Direct.

Expecting MP4 to be shown would, IMO, imply expectation that it would release no later than early/mid 2024. I think it's possible.

MP4 was initially announced for Switch in 2017. But since its reboot in 2019, even releasing for Switch is up the air. Considering the high-profile hiring they've been doing, I'd imagine they're shooting for a bigger scope. 4-5 years of development (+1 of polishing like TotK) may be a little short in that case.

I wouldn't expect MP4 to be shown before a hardware reveal.
 
Cybergatuno said:
I'd imagine Nintendo would only showcase games releasing in 2023, in the Direct or at Gamescom, with maybe one exception for the Direct.

Expecting MP4 to be shown would, IMO, imply expectation that it would release no later than early/mid 2024. I think it's possible.

MP4 was initially announced for Switch in 2017. But since its reboot in 2019, even releasing for Switch is up the air. Considering the high-profile hiring they've been doing, I'd imagine they're shooting for a bigger scope. 4-5 years of development (+1 of polishing like TotK) may be a little short in that case.

I wouldn't expect MP4 to be shown before a hardware reveal.
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thats fair, i just think nintendo is attending gamescom this year for a reason and i dont think that reason is 2d mario
 
SketchaMPM said:
Don’t do that to yourself.

Isn’t the only person claiming that CT is real just Zippo? Or have I missed an update?
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I’m not feeding off of anything that liar Zippo dishes out. It’s just a game that makes complete sense to me to get the HD-2D treatment.

It’s looking more-than-likely to be a Super Mario RPG remake anyway, which would also be really cool. Hopefully even closer to the concept art.
 
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It'll be really fun if, this week, we go from "no Mario games in 2023" to "3 Mario games in 5 months" (2D, RPG, Olympics).

Makes me wonder if RPG isn't till 2024, but there's talk of a Paper Mario remaster, too, and I'd expect there to be some distance between them.
 
Tendou said:
Headlines start rolling:
Direct Narrator Voice: “Microsoft’s coming to…get Jiggy with it?!?!”

Phil Spencer: Hey, Nintendo fans. Phil Spencer from Xbox.

Four years ago, we worked with our incredible partners at Nintendo to put Banjo-Kazooie into Super Smash Brothers Ultimate as download content.

Last year, we also saw the return of the original Nintendo 64 release come back to Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack.

The iconic duo turns 25 years old next week, so we are pleased to share with you, on this Nintendo Direct, the next look into the newest entry in the Banjo franchise.”

I’ll stop there I can’t lmao BUT WHAT IF
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Considering that I have this in my room should tell you that my reaction would be astronomical.
 
Bonejack said:
Okay what the heck happened after i left work yesterday? I was at page .. dunno 200?
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Basically, some new insder info appeared on Twitter, talking about 2D Mario and some SNES Remakes, also Ubisoft leaked something, so we're now full steam ahead :D
 
MisterSpo said:
It'll be really fun if, this week, we go from "no Mario games in 2023" to "3 Mario games in 5 months" (2D, RPG, Olympics).

Makes me wonder if RPG isn't till 2024, but there's talk of a Paper Mario remaster, too, and I'd expect there to be some distance between them.
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agree, a 2D Mario with 2/3 more "lighter" game is more than enough to fill the back half of the year.

I think that FE4 Remake and Metroid will be the highlights of September Direct, but is SMRPG is 2024 I would bet on early 2024 at this point, given how Nintendo is managing new games annoucements this days.
 
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jdh96 said:
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Considering that I have this in my room should tell you that my reaction would be astronomical.
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That’s awesome! I would be over the moon — and, I mean - with the Smash reveal, it felt like my soul left my body. I remember thinking ‘ I…am awake, right?’ - my body transformed the shock into a feeling of disbelief and more. What a wild announcement for me personally haha, so I would drop over for a Banjo game announcement no doubt!
 
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I have serious doubts that IS would release the Holy War remake this "close" to Engage.

They might announce it, but this one feels like a January/Feb 2024 game to fill in some gaps.
 
Bonejack said:
I have serious doubts that IS would release the Holy War remake this "close" to Engage.

They might announce it, but this one feels like a January/Feb 2024 game to fill in some gaps.
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Same, FE G is a 2024 game probably a the september direct with games like Prime 4

Also for people that talks about Prime 4 being tied at an hardware revea of the 2 one, guys they will highlight games made for the console, not Prime 4 that has been developed for Switch for 4 years that is going to be a modern Prime 1
 
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coolcam52 said:
thats fair, i just think nintendo is attending gamescom this year for a reason and i dont think that reason is 2d mario
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Indeed. Showing only a 2D Mario would be disappointing.

But I'm reticent in attributing any relevance to Gamescom. Nintendo could showcase DLCs, evergreen titles and a couple of new games and call it a day. Their presence could be a mere generic marketing push for the whole brand, in preparation for the next years, and not for specific titles. If the alleged 2D Mario has fresh ideas and is a multiplayer party mayhem, it could be enough.

I'm expecting a September Direct, so they can't blow their full load right now. Gamescom, being late August, would always be limited in scope.
 
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