Pre-Release Pokémon Scarlet and Violet — Pre-release Discussion Thread (UPDATE: new trailer, see threadmarks)

[Tye]

Only via Gigantamax Meowth


It's just a byproduct of the evolution data really. It's not something that's ever used for anything.

Yeah, I’m aware it’s not really used, but it’s still interesting information to me and I’m surprised it doesn’t seem to be noted anywhere online, not even as a trivia note in a wiki article! I also find it fascinating that it doesn’t match up exactly with evolution data, and that Legendary/Mythical Pokémon are essentially considered final evolutions by this internal stage value, which is neat. Also interesting how most Pokémon with no evolutions are stage 2, but then you have Qwilfish that’s only stage 1, for some reason (and this was before Overqwil, too). I’d love to be able to see this data for the rest of the Pokémon, too.

So I take it you’re not aware of any source that documents this value for all Pokémon, are you? Regardless, thanks for the reply!

 

[Akoig]

I'd love to get a new Eeveelution this time around, feels overdue to me (Dragon Eevee where are you?) Or introduce a variant/ similar working Pokemon that covers the physical types maybe base it on the iberian lynx?

 

[Bobdapeach]

I'd love to get a new Eeveelution this time around, feels overdue to me (Dragon Eevee where are you?) Or introduce a variant/ similar working Pokemon that covers the physical types maybe base it on the iberian lynx?

I've always felt that any hope for a new Eeveelution was pretty much done for. Sylveon always felt like it was just a fancy way of showing off the Fairy type, but people used it as "proof" that we always get a new Eeveelution every even generation (2nd, 4th, 6th), come Gen 8 we got nothing. Same as the Fire starter being based on the Chinese Zodiac; I mean, are Cyndaquil and Fennekin really based on a Rat and Dog? I don't think so, and now we have Fuecoco, a Crocodile and people are still clamouring that it's based off a snake and that the theory holds true lol
I'm sure we'll continue see Eevee love, as it's a mascot in a similar vein to Meowth - it got it's own Z-move, titled game, and Gigantamax form, but I don't really see another evolution happening. But it's Pokemon, literally anything could happen and I wouldn't be surprised if I was eating my words come November lol. If they were going to do it, I'd prefer like you suggested, a new Pokemon that had the same/similar gimmick, to fill in the other types Eevee hasn't covered, much like a counterpart.

 

[Clov]

I'd love to get a new Eeveelution this time around, feels overdue to me (Dragon Eevee where are you?) Or introduce a variant/ similar working Pokemon that covers the physical types maybe base it on the iberian lynx?

A dragon Eevee would be nice, but I'd love to see a steel type one! A robot Eevee.

 

[meatbag]

Same as the Fire starter being based on the Chinese Zodiac; I mean, are Cyndaquil and Fennekin really based on a Rat and Dog?

I’ve always disagreed with the zodiac theory for this reason. Cyndaquil is clearly an echidna and Fennekin is a fennec fox. Yes fennec foxes are canine but they’re a different genus from the domestic dogs.

A dragon Eevee would be nice, but I'd love to see a steel type one! A robot Eevee.

I’m personally into the idea of a Bug-type Eevee just to see how it would look like.

 

[mnk]

I've always felt that any hope for a new Eeveelution was pretty much done for. Sylveon always felt like it was just a fancy way of showing off the Fairy type, but people used it as "proof" that we always get a new Eeveelution every even generation (2nd, 4th, 6th), come Gen 8 we got nothing. Same as the Fire starter being based on the Chinese Zodiac; I mean, are Cyndaquil and Fennekin really based on a Rat and Dog? I don't think so, and now we have Fuecoco, a Crocodile and people are still clamouring that it's based off a snake and that the theory holds true lol
I'm sure we'll continue see Eevee love, as it's a mascot in a similar vein to Meowth - it got it's own Z-move, titled game, and Gigantamax form, but I don't really see another evolution happening. But it's Pokemon, literally anything could happen and I wouldn't be surprised if I was eating my words come November lol. If they were going to do it, I'd prefer like you suggested, a new Pokemon that had the same/similar gimmick, to fill in the other types Eevee hasn't covered, much like a counterpart.

lol yeah, there's nothing stopping them from changing their mind and just doing it one day. It seemed like they were over doing cross-gen evolutions at all, and then Sw/Sh happened. And then it seemed like it was only going to happen with regional variants, and then Legends Arceus happened. It's impossible to predict what or when they'll decide to do something, haha. They might even bring back Mega Evolution!

 

[Hauke_von_Arding]

I’ve always disagreed with the zodiac theory for this reason. Cyndaquil is clearly an echidna and Fennekin is a fennec fox. Yes fennec foxes are canine but they’re a different genus from the domestic dogs.


I’m personally into the idea of a Bug-type Eevee just to see how it would look like.

Look at the Japanese informations we have. Cyndaquil is called 'Nezumi' in his species name in Japanese. Which means mouse/rat in Japanese. So the devs CLEARLY count Cyndaquil as rat. There is nothing to deny.

Fennekin is more obscure, yes. But the "canine family" is simply called 'dog family' in japanese with the same kanji as 'dog'. 'inu'. It's a bigger maybe than cyndaquil, but still quiet plausible in Japanese.

 

[Aleh]

Look at the Japanese informations we have. Cyndaquil is called 'Nezumi' in his species name in Japanese. Which means mouse/rat in Japanese. So the devs CLEARLY count Cyndaquil as rat. There is nothing to deny.

Fennekin is more obscure, yes. But the "canine family" is simply called 'dog family' in japanese with the same kanji as 'dog'. 'inu'. It's a bigger maybe than cyndaquil, but still quiet plausible in Japanese.

Ok but the zodiac was never about the canine family

 

[Hauke_von_Arding]

Ok but the zodiac was never about the canine family

You see it from a western perspective. The Japanese "inu" means 'dog' AND 'canine' at the same time. Arai Hakuseki even suggested that the 'ne' in 'kitsune' is related to 'inu'. As I said... it's harder to justify, but there is clearly a base for the claim. It's not out of nothing and without any base.

 

[meatbag]

Look at the Japanese informations we have. Cyndaquil is called 'Nezumi' in his species name in Japanese. Which means mouse/rat in Japanese. So the devs CLEARLY count Cyndaquil as rat. There is nothing to deny.

Okay, sure, I can see this.

Fennekin is more obscure, yes. But the "canine family" is simply called 'dog family' in japanese with the same kanji as 'dog'. 'inu'. It's a bigger maybe than cyndaquil, but still quiet plausible in Japanese.

This I cannot agree with. Fennekin is a fox. “Inari” or “kitsune” in Japanese. It only makes sense if you for some reason count Fennekin as a dog rather than a fox.

And now we also have Fuecoco. Where does he fit into this?

 

[NabiscoFelt]

Okay, sure, I can see this.

This I cannot agree with. Fennekin is a fox. “Inari” or “kitsune” in Japanese. It only makes sense if you for some reason count Fennekin as a dog rather than a fox.

And now we also have Fuecoco. Where does he fit into this?

I feel like when you've made the leap of calling Fennekin a dog then you're probably fine with calling Fuecoco a snake

 

[SNP]

Okay, sure, I can see this.

This I cannot agree with. Fennekin is a fox. “Inari” or “kitsune” in Japanese. It only makes sense if you for some reason count Fennekin as a dog rather than a fox.

And now we also have Fuecoco. Where does he fit into this?

I mean, you can look at One Piece, the Nine-Tails fruit of Devon is called "Dog Dog Fruit: Model Nine-Tails Fox", like all the Dinosaur is count toward "Dragon". And I don't think most people (Japanese maybe) have a problem with that.

 

[meatbag]

I mean, you can look at One Piece, the Nine-Tails fruit of Devon is called "Dog Dog Fruit: Model Nine-Tails Fox", like all the Dinosaur is count toward "Dragon". And I don't think most people (Japanese maybe) have a problem with that.

As mentioned above “inu” is used to generally refer to canines, not just for dogs specifically. Asian culture tends to treat foxes and dogs as distinct animals.

I feel like when you've made the leap of calling Fennekin a dog then you're probably fine with calling Fuecoco a snake

Calling Fuecoco a snake is a bigger leap. Fennekin is a canine at least.

I just checked and Cyndaquil’s name is Hinoarashi which is a play on fire and porcupine. The Japanese name for porcupine literally translates to “needle mouse”, which I believe is where the English translation got “fire mouse” from. But it’s inaccurate. And I wouldn’t put much stock into the Fire Mouse thing anyway. We don’t think Blastoise is a shellfish, do we?

 

[Believe Mushrooms]

Cyndaquil's Japanese classification is Hinezumi, a mythological fire rat.

Fuecoco could still turn long down the line. Otherwise the zodiac theming is dead.

 

[snikdasnek]

Ah the period in between the initial reveal of the pokemon game and the start of the marketing cycle in May/June. A time ripe with fake leaks and Zodiac debates when applicable lol

 

[9-Volt]

Cyndaquil's Japanese classification is Hinezumi, a mythological fire rat.

Fuecoco could still turn long down the line. Otherwise the zodiac theming is dead.

It'll definitely turn into something unexpected. It's a croc with hooves and hair, for gods sake. It looks like anything but a croc.

 

[Leo]

It'll definitely turn into something unexpected. It's a croc with hooves and hair, for gods sake. It looks like anything but a croc.

Looks very much a cartoon croc to me, I'd be surprised if it turned into a snake.

 

[SpringwoodSlasher]

Hey team, I’ve been out of the loop with all Nintendo spec in the last couple of weeks.

Has there been any more discourse or informed speculation surrounding the capture mechanic in Scarlet and Violet? Has Kelios said anything? Hoping we get the same catch mechanics as Arceus but it’s not looking promising…

 

[Illucio]

I'd love to get a new Eeveelution this time around, feels overdue to me (Dragon Eevee where are you?) Or introduce a variant/ similar working Pokemon that covers the physical types maybe base it on the iberian lynx?

All Eevee's that have evolutions has always been based on the special attack category of Pokémon.

It's weird they've been holding off on the physical category for so long. Or if they will be going with a whole new Eevee-like Pokémon that evolves into all those other categories of Pokémon.

 

[Jafin]

I read a theory about a new Eeveelution the other day on Reddit actually. Take with a huge pinch of salt of course, but someone mentioned that in the current anime Chloe, the female companion, got an Eevee a while back from a lab that specialises in studying Eeveelutions and apparently this Eevee is unable to evolve using any of the currently known methods, so people are speculating it will evolve into some new Eeveelution that will make its game debut in SV. I haven't kept up with the anime since the Hoenn days so I'm very out of the loop on that front, but apparently every time there is a new Eeveelution it is showcased in the anime around the time the new form is released in games.

Again, take with a huge pinch of salt, it could mean absolutely nothing, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

 

[Illucio]

I read a theory about a new Eeveelution the other day on Reddit actually. Take with a huge pinch of salt of course, but someone mentioned that in the current anime Chloe, the female companion, got an Eevee a while back from a lab that specialises in studying Eeveelutions and apparently this Eevee is unable to evolve using any of the currently known methods, so people are speculating it will evolve into some new Eeveelution that will make its game debut in SV. I haven't kept up with the anime since the Hoenn days so I'm very out of the loop on that front, but apparently every time there is a new Eeveelution it is showcased in the anime around the time the new form is released in games.

Again, take with a huge pinch of salt, it could mean absolutely nothing, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.

I believe the Eevee is refusing to evolve much like S1EP40 "The Battling Eevee Brothers".

But people will keep theorizing.

 

[ILikeFeet]

I believe the Eevee is refusing to evolve much like S1EP40 "The Battling Eevee Brothers".

But people will keep theorizing.

until it is made an offer it can't refuse

 

[Mirev]

I believe the Eevee is refusing to evolve much like S1EP40 "The Battling Eevee Brothers".

But people will keep theorizing.

Is not refusing, Eevee and Chloe are exploring every eevolution before the evolution, and the Pokémon is ok with that

 

[Bobdapeach]

The thing with the Eevee anime-theory it just seems like people are trying to form a pattern when there's simply just a line. Eevee already has a tonne of evolutions as is, and none of them have been given the consistent development that Chloe's has had (other than Serene's). I think people are just trying to find a pattern when there simply isn't one. This might not make sense since I'm not good at explaining things without writing literal novels so here goes.

Chloe's Eevee has been given this huge arc spanning over a year about it's evolution (she caught it in December, 2020), I don't know, call me cynical, but I just don't think the anime would outright tease something like that for the upcoming generation over such a long period of time... Gary and Serena both got their Eevee's when we already knew Umbreon and Sylveon existed (Gary "caught" his during the last episode before the Johto arc started, and Serena caught hers during the Kalos arc), the only exception may be May (I'm not too sure when Glaceon was revealed), but if they really wanted to showcase Glaceon that early there's no reason they couldn't have evolved it earlier. Instead, it evolved off screen and debuted as a Glaceon more than 2 and a half years later and appeared in about 3 or 4 episodes. They could have spent that time teasing Eevee's future evolution into Glaceon, but they didn't. This would have been easy enough to do since the AG anime already showed off a tonne of Sinnoh Pokemon, including Brock's Bonsly, James' Mime Jr, which they all caught during the Hoenn anime, and lets not forget May's Munchlax, which she caught a year and a half before Diamond and Pearl even released.

The only time I can remember this happening with the Anime is with Ash's Rockruff. He caught it at the start of the SM anime and it evolved to show off the new Lycanroc form for USUM (I believe the episode aired the same day/day after they first revealed the Dusk Form, and the anime episode a week before teased it). Rockruff first appeared in November 2016, but Ash didn't catch it until February 2017, and it evolved in August 2017... Depending on how you time that, it's only a period of 6 or 9 months to tease a new evolution, not 1.5-2 years that Chloe's Eevee is getting! Not to mention, Rockruff never had an arc dedicated to it's evolution either.

If the theory was to hold true, I don't get why May wouldn't have received a Glaceon during the Hoenn anime since they'd already established a precedent with giving a lot of the main cast Sinnoh Pokemon. I don't know, I've always thought Chloe's Eevee was more a reference to Let's Go. I mean it even has the female tail gender difference which first appeared in those games. Plus, in SwSh, Eevee that can G-Max can't evolve, and we haven't seen a G-Max Eevee in the anime yet... Just seems like Chloe's Eevee is leading up to a reveal that it can G-Max, not that it's going to evolve into a brand new Pokemon

That's just my 2 cents worth. I don't want to stop people from speculating but I personally don't think it holds any merit.

 

[Deleted member 2]

The thing with the Eevee anime-theory it just seems like people are trying to form a pattern when there's simply just a line. Eevee already has a tonne of evolutions as is, and none of them have been given the consistent development that Chloe's has had (other than Serene's). I think people are just trying to find a pattern when there simply isn't one. This might not make sense since I'm not good at explaining things without writing literal novels so here goes.

Chloe's Eevee has been given this huge arc spanning over a year about it's evolution (she caught it in December, 2020), I don't know, call me cynical, but I just don't think the anime would outright tease something like that for the upcoming generation over such a long period of time... Gary and Serena both got their Eevee's when we already knew Umbreon and Sylveon existed (Gary "caught" his during the last episode before the Johto arc started, and Serena caught hers during the Kalos arc), the only exception may be May (I'm not too sure when Glaceon was revealed), but if they really wanted to showcase Glaceon that early there's no reason they couldn't have evolved it earlier. Instead, it evolved off screen and debuted as a Glaceon more than 2 and a half years later and appeared in about 3 or 4 episodes. They could have spent that time teasing Eevee's future evolution into Glaceon, but they didn't. This would have been easy enough to do since the AG anime already showed off a tonne of Sinnoh Pokemon, including Brock's Bonsly, James' Mime Jr, which they all caught during the Hoenn anime, and lets not forget May's Munchlax, which she caught a year and a half before Diamond and Pearl even released.

The only time I can remember this happening with the Anime is with Ash's Rockruff. He caught it at the start of the SM anime and it evolved to show off the new Lycanroc form for USUM (I believe the episode aired the same day/day after they first revealed the Dusk Form, and the anime episode a week before teased it). Rockruff first appeared in November 2016, but Ash didn't catch it until February 2017, and it evolved in August 2017... Depending on how you time that, it's only a period of 6 or 9 months to tease a new evolution, not 1.5-2 years that Chloe's Eevee is getting! Not to mention, Rockruff never had an arc dedicated to it's evolution either.

If the theory was to hold true, I don't get why May wouldn't have received a Glaceon during the Hoenn anime since they'd already established a precedent with giving a lot of the main cast Sinnoh Pokemon. I don't know, I've always thought Chloe's Eevee was more a reference to Let's Go. I mean it even has the female tail gender difference which first appeared in those games. Plus, in SwSh, Eevee that can G-Max can't evolve, and we haven't seen a G-Max Eevee in the anime yet... Just seems like Chloe's Eevee is leading up to a reveal that it can G-Max, not that it's going to evolve into a brand new Pokemon

That's just my 2 cents worth. I don't want to stop people from speculating but I personally don't think it holds any merit.

It's just speculation.

You're wasting effort to disprove it. Speculation, in the first place, is conjecture without firm evidence.

 

[Bobdapeach]

It's just speculation.

You're wasting effort to disprove it. Speculation, in the first place, is conjecture without firm evidence.

Yup! That's why I added "I don't want to stop people from speculating but I personally don't think it holds any merit" onto the end of my post. People are free to speculate all they want

 

[Jafin]

Ty for the people above for some of the clarifications since I don't follow the anime very closely. I didn't realise Chloe had the Eevee since the end of 2020. I thought it was far more recent from what I had read in the original theory. (Although maybe the person who posted the theory was going off the English localisation - I'm not sure what the time gap between Japanese and English release for the anime is these days) Also I didn't even realise that G-Max Eevee can't evolve in SwSh lol. They could definitely just be keeping her Eevee as a future G-Max in that case.

 

[Deleted member 2]

Yup! That's why I added "I don't want to stop people from speculating but I personally don't think it holds any merit" onto the end of my post. People are free to speculate all they want

No I meant you're wasting your time! That's all I was saying, and I'm confused why people do this in speculation threads...

 

[Hauke_von_Arding]

The thing with the Eevee anime-theory it just seems like people are trying to form a pattern when there's simply just a line. Eevee already has a tonne of evolutions as is, and none of them have been given the consistent development that Chloe's has had (other than Serene's). I think people are just trying to find a pattern when there simply isn't one. This might not make sense since I'm not good at explaining things without writing literal novels so here goes.

Chloe's Eevee has been given this huge arc spanning over a year about it's evolution (she caught it in December, 2020), I don't know, call me cynical, but I just don't think the anime would outright tease something like that for the upcoming generation over such a long period of time... Gary and Serena both got their Eevee's when we already knew Umbreon and Sylveon existed (Gary "caught" his during the last episode before the Johto arc started, and Serena caught hers during the Kalos arc), the only exception may be May (I'm not too sure when Glaceon was revealed), but if they really wanted to showcase Glaceon that early there's no reason they couldn't have evolved it earlier. Instead, it evolved off screen and debuted as a Glaceon more than 2 and a half years later and appeared in about 3 or 4 episodes. They could have spent that time teasing Eevee's future evolution into Glaceon, but they didn't. This would have been easy enough to do since the AG anime already showed off a tonne of Sinnoh Pokemon, including Brock's Bonsly, James' Mime Jr, which they all caught during the Hoenn anime, and lets not forget May's Munchlax, which she caught a year and a half before Diamond and Pearl even released.

The only time I can remember this happening with the Anime is with Ash's Rockruff. He caught it at the start of the SM anime and it evolved to show off the new Lycanroc form for USUM (I believe the episode aired the same day/day after they first revealed the Dusk Form, and the anime episode a week before teased it). Rockruff first appeared in November 2016, but Ash didn't catch it until February 2017, and it evolved in August 2017... Depending on how you time that, it's only a period of 6 or 9 months to tease a new evolution, not 1.5-2 years that Chloe's Eevee is getting! Not to mention, Rockruff never had an arc dedicated to it's evolution either.

If the theory was to hold true, I don't get why May wouldn't have received a Glaceon during the Hoenn anime since they'd already established a precedent with giving a lot of the main cast Sinnoh Pokemon. I don't know, I've always thought Chloe's Eevee was more a reference to Let's Go. I mean it even has the female tail gender difference which first appeared in those games. Plus, in SwSh, Eevee that can G-Max can't evolve, and we haven't seen a G-Max Eevee in the anime yet... Just seems like Chloe's Eevee is leading up to a reveal that it can G-Max, not that it's going to evolve into a brand new Pokemon

That's just my 2 cents worth. I don't want to stop people from speculating but I personally don't think it holds any merit.

I mean... do you remember Togepi in the anime? It was teased over a year before Gold Silver was released.They got the egg in the anime in May 1998 (JP) and Gold Silver was released November 1999.

 

[Blue Monty]

I mean... do you remember Togepi in the anime? It was teased over a year before Gold Silver was released.They got the egg in the anime in May 1998 (JP) and Gold Silver was released November 1999.

To add to this Pokemon has always showed next gen Pokemons before showing the next gen games for a while. It was more common in past gens (gen I-IV) but they still do it gen 5 we got zorua/zoroark movie , gen 6 Sylveon in the anime , gen 7 magerna movie and gen 8 is the only time this hasn't happened but Melmetal/Metan appear both in Lets Go/Pokemon Go before appearing in the next Main games (main=traditional games I don't mean mainline ik Lets Go is a mainline game)

 

[Akoig]

All Eevee's that have evolutions has always been based on the special attack category of Pokémon.

It's weird they've been holding off on the physical category for so long. Or if they will be going with a whole new Eevee-like Pokémon that evolves into all those other categories of Pokémon.

Correct! Which would mean we are only missing Dragon from the special category. I wouldn't mind to have a counterpart Pokemon for the Physical types, but it does bother me the counterpart for Sylveon hasn't shown up yet, like, they always came in contrasting pairs (minus the first 3) and Sylveon had this all " dragon killer" thing going on in the marketing for Gen 6, so it is odd.

 

[ILikeFeet]

the fact that Sylveon came after the phys/spec split was always weird.

 

[snikdasnek]

Man I wish Pokemon company would break their normal marketing schedule for once and release some more info this month instead. Its not likely, but I can dream

 

[DoofTroop]

Man I wish Pokemon company would break their normal marketing schedule for once and release some more info this month instead. Its not likely, but I can dream

Same...Starving for Pokémon news over here...

We be dreamers.

 

[Illucio]

Correct! Which would mean we are only missing Dragon from the special category. I wouldn't mind to have a counterpart Pokemon for the Physical types, but it does bother me the counterpart for Sylveon hasn't shown up yet, like, they always came in contrasting pairs (minus the first 3) and Sylveon had this all " dragon killer" thing going on in the marketing for Gen 6, so it is odd.

It is weird they've held off on Dragon for so long, especially with the introduction of Gen 6. (Then again that is the smallest generation of Pokemon that only introduced 72 new Pokemon, so there must had been a lot of cuts for that gen alone).

 

[snikdasnek]

All pokemon company international accounts have updated the news and pokemon scarlet and violet playlists today, trailer potentially incoming

 

[GoGoDezmo]

See, as far as Eeveelutions, go, I thought during the pre-release era of Sword and Shield that a Dragon and Steel type would be perfect for Galar. Knights in Shining Armor vs Dragons, y'know?

 

[Mirev]

All pokemon company international accounts have updated the news and pokemon scarlet and violet playlists today, trailer potentially incoming

I see just the US one

 

[zumaddy]

There's a 'leak' going around 4chan of apparently the concept art of the fire starter evolution, as always take with a huge grain of salt. There's no current credibility to it as a source. It is fun to look at though ¯\(ツ)/¯

Spoiler

 

[snikdasnek]

There's a 'leak' going around 4chan of apparently the concept art of the fire starter evolution, as always take with a huge grain of salt. There's no current credibility to it as a source. It is fun to look at though ¯\(ツ)/¯

Spoiler

I mean you can see the cursor under the foot on the top right lmao, but it looks cool

 

[zumaddy]

I mean you can see the cursor under the foot on the top right lmao, but it looks cool

Well the apparent explanation is that the 4channer got that image from someone else and it's their cursor in the image, not the leaker's....
but its a convenient excuse so who knows

 

[Deleted member 2739]

There's a 'leak' going around 4chan of apparently the concept art of the fire starter evolution, as always take with a huge grain of salt. There's no current credibility to it as a source. It is fun to look at though ¯\(ツ)/¯

Grain of salt 100 percent. I saw someone translate it on Twitter

 

[Raccoon]

Grain of salt 100 percent. I saw someone translate it on Twitter

I don't imagine this is real, but it looks superb

I for one am very excited to see how the duck evolves

 

[winstein]

It will be interesting to compare the rumours throughout the months to the final game, and I am still impressed that Sword/Shield managed to have a good record of keeping most unrevealed stuff secret (save for one anonymous post that mentioned Raboot and Inteleon (misspelt Intelleon)) until the physical game got leaked.

I wonder if footage of the starters will be revealed in the 24th April broadcast, since we never really seen footage of them until now, only the official art.

Thank you for reading.

 

[Deleted member 2]

It's good to be skeptical, but remember that the Gen 7 starter evos leaked exactly like this... through concept art that was translated and deemed as "pretty realistic"

 

[Thorakai]

Grain of salt 100 percent. I saw someone translate it on Twitter

If this is a fakemon it’s a really good fakemon. It advances a lot of the design flairs hinted in the first form very nicely with enough restraint to take things further in a final evo. Love it.

 

[frog]

Grain of salt 100 percent. I saw someone translate it on Twitter

If this is real and Quaxly's final evo is too humanoid then I would probably switch teams

 

[snikdasnek]

It's good to be skeptical, but remember that the Gen 7 starter evos leaked exactly like this... through concept art that was translated and deemed as "pretty realistic"

I mean the thing is that leak had Mallow on it, and it also didn't have someone posting it on 2chan and promising a follow up on the info alongside promising a trailer and box art reveal soon. I think the reactions to it are a bit mixed and people think GF can do something like this so people are just slotting it in as being real. Remember that the initial leaks were anime concept arts, which this does not read as

 

[Deleted member 2739]

Still not sure yet on this. I'll remain a bit on the fence till we finally see the evos for ourselves.

 

[VolcanicDynamo]

Grain of salt 100 percent. I saw someone translate it on Twitter

I'm gonna be kinda sad if this isn't real because this is a great design. Showed it to some friends and we speculated that it could be a Fire/Fairy type, and I would love one of those.