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When will the next general Direct (full or mini) be?

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I still think it's stupid that they're apparently only remastering Prime 1. There are going to be so many people (myself included) who are going to play the remaster and then have to make the choice of playing the SD only Prime 2 and 3 or just skip those games and go to 4. Neither is a good option in the slightest.

I'd much rather just have simpler hd ports of the entire trilogy than a remastered 1 honestly. Especially since I'm one of those people who have been waiting years at this point to play the trilogy because of those rumours, which is my fault I know but still.
 
Raccoon said:
see I'm kind of a dipshit

all I'm hung up on is that 1 game < 3 game

1 game made pretty is for nostalgia havers, 3 games that look like shit would have been for uneducated zoomers like me
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Coming from a massive Prime 1 fan who will definitely buy the remakester, I definitely agree with 1 game < 3 games.

Because the thing is, they DONT look like shit. They’ve actually aged very well and I’d be perfectly fine with a simple upres if it means we get all three. It’s like a no brainer to me.

But I’m trying to stay positive, Retro had a reason for JUST doing this one, so I’ll see what they have in store.
 
bellydrum said:
I'm the one shitposting, I'm not implying you're driving by or anything. Where do you get your i formation on how much work went into the WW remaster? I haven't seen anything about it and I'd like to know.
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From memory there was a video or interview that Aonuma talked about how they were experimenting with lighting styles on Wind Waker when deciding what to do next with Zelda and found that it looked really good. The lack of asset changes was something people could observe.

Here’s an unofficial list of changes, visual and otherwise:
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The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD is a Wii U enhanced remaster of the Nintendo GameCube game, The Wind Waker. It was officially announced via a Nintendo Direct webcast on January 23, 2013. Further information on the game was revealed at E3 2013 and in subsequent Nintendo Directs. The Wind...
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karmitt said:
I only have your word to go by at the moment, and you used Wind Waker HD as the example. I don't want to trivialize development efforts, but Wind Waker HD was relatively basic, and no different from what we saw with SSHD and TPHD.

If Retro spent years to develop the game, and I'm to expect Wind Waker HD levels of improvements, I'm already not impressed. If we're also going to see them remaking enemy models (and boy to the Space Pirates need a glow up) and world geometry as well, then consider me excited. But that's not what WWHD was.
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I haven't seen the game. My contact used WWHD as an example but it could easily be closer to Halo MCC. It's all relative to their knowledge and point of reference for a comparison. They emphasized the project is ambitious and not a basic remaster due to the work put into it.

It blurs the line between remake and a remaster.
 
Phendrift said:
Coming from a massive Prime 1 fan who will definitely buy the remakester, I definitely agree with 1 game < 3 games.

Because the thing is, they DONT look like shit. They’ve actually aged very well and I’d be perfectly fine with a simple upres if it means we get all three. It’s like a no brainer to me.

But I’m trying to stay positive, Retro had a reason for JUST doing this one, so I’ll see what they have in store.
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The reason was they got MP4. Their original plan was the trilogy pre-MP4 assignment. They shopped around for external help soon after getting MP4. Whether MP2/3 come to Switch is TBD. I've heard yes but unsure when and in what form.
 
Normally I would agree that it would be better to have the trilogy in one package as opposed to paying for each game separately at full price, but I am really curious to see how Prime 1 HD is shown. Hopefully it is worth the extra effort involved.
 
Raccoon said:
see I'm kind of a dipshit

all I'm hung up on is that 1 game < 3 game

1 game made pretty is for nostalgia havers, 3 games that look like shit would have been for uneducated zoomers like me
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no, you're absolutely in the right to feel that way imo.

Metroid Prime is the game that got me into Metroid back in 2015 (though, it wasn't till 2020 that I finished another Metroid game). I've played a little bit of Prime 2, but not much and none of Prime 3.

Despite Metroid Prime being so good that I considered it tied for my favorite game of all time until relatively recently, I just don't think it's that exciting to get one Prime game versus three. Consumers have gotten a better value before, and a lot of people will want to have caught up by the time Prime 4 comes out. It just isn't as enticing.
 
NateDrake said:
I haven't seen the game. My contact used WWHD as an example but it could easily be closer to Halo MCC. It's all relative to their knowledge and point of reference for a comparison. They emphasized the project is ambitious and not a basic remaster due to the work put into it.

It blurs the line between remake and a remaster.
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Can we compare it to Xenoblade DE ?

The games its 1:1 (same cutscenes, scenarios, gameplay, enemy IA, controls, etc) but they redone most assets and characters models + QoL improvements. Its the blur line between remake and remaster.
 
NateDrake said:
The reason was they got MP4. Their original plan was the trilogy pre-MP4 assignment. They shopped around for external help soon after getting MP4. Whether MP2/3 come to Switch is TBD. I've heard yes but unsure when and in what form.
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Oh you’ve heard yes.
 
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LoneRanger said:
Can we compare it to Xenoblade DE ?

The games its 1:1 (same cutscenes, scenarios, gameplay, enemy IA, controls, etc) but they redone most assets and characters models + QoL improvements. Its the blur line between remake and remaster.
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y'know this is actually probably our best analog based on what's been said
 
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Random Metroid timeline speculation...

2021- Metroid V: Dread
2022- Metroid Prime 1 HD
2023- Metroid Prime 4 (finally)
2025- Metroid Prime 2 HD
2026- Metroid VI
2028- Metroid Prime 3 HD

Maybe seeing the old Prime games every three years is possible?
 
Raccoon said:
the direct will air on February 9 at 6 PM eastern (that's 11 PM GMT)
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I'm banking on 6pm ET on either 2/9 or 2/10 and am adjusting all my weekly meetings accordingly.

Also, Nate doing the lord's work with these last few posts. I'm dying to see this remakester for myself. Too bad we probably have to wait another 4 months but hopefully the anticipation is worth it.
 
Raccoon said:
I could've sworn it was 6 last year but I trust your memory over mine
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Unless I'm reverse daylight savings-ing, which is very possible, I believe 7am jst corresponds to 6pm edt which is 5pm est.

For the record, never, EVER trust my memory. It is complete and utter shit. In this case I'm just going by the pattern of famitsu weekly reports which are at 9am during daylight savings and 8am during the winter, so I assume the evening direct slot will follow that same pattern.
 
Skittzo said:
Unless I'm reverse daylight savings-ing, which is very possible, I believe 7am jst corresponds to 6pm edt which is 5pm est.

For the record, never, EVER trust my memory. It is complete and utter shit. In this case I'm just going by the pattern of famitsu weekly reports which are at 9am during daylight savings and 8am during the winter, so I assume the evening direct slot will follow that same pattern.
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fun cool fact, you can literally google "7 am japan to here" and google will handle the rest

it is, for the record, 5 pm. I think I remembered 6 because last year's was a fucking hour long
 
If WW HD ends up being a stand-alone title and not bundled with TP HD, I'm interested to see what work they put into it. It'd be nice to get an art style toggle between the original + Wii U, and perhaps some sort of multiplayer add-on like Tetra's Trackers or Four Swords
 
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I wonder why there is so much faith in next week (February 9th to be exact). Last year it was February 17th so why wouldn’t it be around the same time this year? I want it sooner than later like everybody, but later just seems more realistic.
 
DrDave said:
I wonder why there is so much faith in next week (February 9th to be exact). Last year it was February 17th so why wouldn’t it be around the same time this year? I want it sooner than later like everybody, but later just seems more realistic.
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last year followed 3D World by a little under a week, this one will follow arceus by a little over a week
 
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DrDave said:
I wonder why there is so much faith in next week (February 9th to be exact). Last year it was February 17th so why wouldn’t it be around the same time this year? I want it sooner than later like everybody, but later just seems more realistic.
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Blame @Skittzo 's jury duty, it wrote it in the stars for us months ago. Who are we to defy destiny?
 
Metroid Prime is older than OOT and Xenoblade were when they got a remaster. If those two are anything to go by, I think Prime will look really nice.
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remember, 2019 is our model this season for a bunch of reasons

  • late January megaton
  • platformer in March with date announced by Tweet in mid-January
  • no games past March dated

2019's was on the 13th, and the 9th is pretty close to that

all that said, it's just a week. it could go either way
 
The Prime 1 re-make/master might have been strategically chosen as an internal project at Retro as a good way to get the graphic artists and 3D modelers in the right creative and technical mindset before they began full production on Prime 4.
 
Raccoon said:
remember, 2019 is our model this season for a bunch of reasons

  • late January megaton
  • platformer in March with date announced by Tweet in mid-January
  • no games past March dated

2019's was on the 13th, and the 9th is pretty close to that

all that said, it's just a week. it could go either way
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But this time they also have Triangle Strategy to tweet lots about this month. I could see Kirbboi and TS getting all the focus right through to the March direct.
 
I am liking all the hints that we might see something Monolith when the February Direct inevitably happens.

I am not sure if I want it to happen next week or the week after. Next week is sooner, but I have a week off work the week after that which would give me more time for the hype.
 
I have still to finish Three Houses (only Claude’s route left). I hope the new FE will release in summer lmao, in this way I’ll be able to finish the previous game without problems
I think it will be my next jrpg (I’m playing Tales of Xillia on my ps3 atm)
 
Anyway if FE is really scheduled for this year then I think that I’ll wait for a sale to buy Triangle Strategy.
That game looks cool and I love Team Asano, but I didn’t like Octopath at all, so maybe it’s better to wait…

At the same time the thing that I didn’t like in OT was that the characters didn’t interact (I know that for someone is a minor thing but for me is a major problem. I can play a game with a shit story if the characters and their interactions are good but not the other way around. I bought the game wondering how they would have handled it just to discover that they didn’t handle it at all lmao)
But IMO that doesn’t seem the case with this game so I’m more curious about it…

We will see, I have tons of jrpgs in my backlog so I can always wait for a sale at this point :/


(Also am I the only one that want a BD2 dlc too?😭)
 
I imagine one reason Wind Waker HD is used as a reference point is because when you see that versus the original, it does look dramatically different side by side. Sure, that's because of the rather large lighting shift, but it's certainly more noticeable than the last two Zelda remasters, which are visually much more faithful in a side by side comparison.
SpookyTango said:
The Prime 1 re-make/master might have been strategically chosen as an internal project at Retro as a good way to get the graphic artists and 3D modelers in the right creative and technical mindset before they began full production on Prime 4.
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From what was said on this front, Retro were put on a Prime Trilogy remaster after cancelled projects while Prime 4 was beginning at Namco-Bandai. When Bamco's Prime 4 hit the rocks, Retro got Prime 4, and the Trilogy remaster was downsized to the first game because Prime 4 was now the priority; but it sounds like the remaster of the first game has taken a while and so perhaps it'll be a fairly notable modernisation, visually.
 
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Thinking about it, maybe it makes sense to announce Prime remaster at the February direct if they want to mainly focus on BOTW2 and another big holiday game this summer.
Maybe the correct strategy would be to announce games in February so that the announcements won't be overshadowed by megatons like BOTW2 and others in the summer ?

Nintendo only having 3 presentation in the year doesn't help when we're expecting a gangbuster year like 2022.
 
NateDrake said:
I think I'd use Wind Waker HD as a comparison.
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NateDrake said:
It's not basic, though. They are redoing texture work. They just aren't going to alter the gameplay in any significant way because they want to retain what the original was and keep it as it was. It has taken Retro years to develop this game. Not 18 months.
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Reading your other posts I understand why you used WWHD as a point of comparison but I'd just like to point out that Wind Waker HD was developed in a much shorter time than the Prime Remaster allegedly took.

www.siliconera.com

Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Remake Was Developed In Six Months Says Producer

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, the Wii U remake of the GameCube game, was developed in just about six months, says Zelda series producer Eiji Aonuma.
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What happened to those stupidly dumb yet entertaining 4chan direct leaks that would happen? I thought now would be a good time for them to surface.
 
RE: Metroid Prime 2/3 potentially coming, I wonder if they outsourced the work to someone like Panic Button or a similar studio to take the basis of what Retro has done with MP1 and copy that across the next 2?
 
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Amadeus said:
Thinking about it, maybe it makes sense to announce Prime remaster at the February direct if they want to mainly focus on BOTW2 and another big holiday game this summer.
Maybe the correct strategy would be to announce games in February so that the announcements won't be overshadowed by megatons like BOTW2 and others in the summer ?

Nintendo only having 3 presentation in the year doesn't help when we're expecting a gangbuster year like 2022.
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To be fair, they were willing to announce something like 6 or 7 games last February, and then another 5 at E3, I think, so they will go on sprees when it suits them.

The issue is that, coming in to 2022, we have a firmer idea of what to expect than we did this time last year because more games are confirmed for 2022. Right now we have Kirby, Advance Wars, and Splatoon 3 likely out by mid July at the latest. We have Zelda and Bayonetta 3 presumably in the second half.

This month, Nintendo could date Advance Wars and Splatoon, and announce just 2 or 3 - Everybody Switch and Fire Emblem, and a download title to drop after the presentation. Presumably that completes their line up until around July. They can then date Zelda and Bayonetta 3 in June, and announce whatever else is planned for the second half (Metroid Prime, Xenoblade, and more, presumably).

It's a slightly weird spot. They've got good options as to how they announce things.
 
The idea of seeing a new Retro project after all these years apparently so good it gave them Prime 4 is a lot more enticing to me than a port of the trilogy. I know 3 is a higher number than 1 but come on have a little imagination, it'll be like a playable Prime 4 teaser wrapped inside one of the best game ever made (with dual analog!).

We spent years theorizing what the hell Retro has been doing, and all of a sudden we're supposed to wish it was an uprezzed wii port you can already buy for 15 bucks on the Wii U?
 
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I'm looking forward to Prime, because it's a long time since I last played it. It is one of the all time greats.

I'd hope they give 2 and 3 similar treatment and to be honest I expect they will, especially if they're pleased with whichever external studio stepped in to help Retro. It'll give them a less resource intensive way of getting further games out, much like the Zelda remasters, and it's a while since the original releases.

Prime 2 is probably my favourite of the bunch, even if I think it has more flaws than Prime 1. A remaster could also look stunning. Prime 3 certainly has its strengths, but it felt like Samus's universe got a little too crowded. Prime 2 managed a slightly more overt narrative without creating that issue, and I liked that.
 
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LonkFromPA said:
I made my direct predictions, but I forgot to add something. I think they may announce Breath of the Wild Definitive Edition to celebrate it's 5th anniversary and it will include all the DLC on the cartridge.
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Skittzo said:
I don't think they'll release something like that until the 4k console is out. Then they can advertise it as a visual upgrade too.
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It actually has been already published! It's Japan exclusive, but they released both BOTW + DLC and Splatoon 2 + DLC packs last October.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2..._physical_releases_with_dlc_included_in_japan
 
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