StarTopic Nintendo General Discussion |ST19 April 2023| A tradition unlike any other

[Josh5890]

John Rahm is your 2023 Masters Champion.

 

[ngpdrew]

John Rahm is your 2023 Masters Champion.

Do you think Nintendo's legal department did a spit take when Jim Nantz announced a "ROM" as the 2023 Masters Champion?

(Side Note: Rahm is OP)

 

[Mr_No_U]

what's this about a new Mario movie being out now? Like a new Mario Puzo movie? I loved The Godfather

 

[Brofield]

Good evening Fami, hope you all are having a brilliant day : )

I usually don’t do this, as I don’t like attention. And I hope even after this we will focus on the game, not me.

As some of you know, I do hobby journalism behind the scenes and research various things for fun. Some accurate Nintendo rumors that were reported by YouTubers and other sites in the past partially were based on my research. As I said, I don’t like attention and thus always asked everyone to keep me private, which I intend to continue remain private in those stories.

However, now I have something super excited that I’m aware of. Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door Remaster is finally happening and coming out soon!

I have been in touch with 3 sources with this. One of them redirected to me to the third source, who I hadn’t interacted before so it was just me cold messaging them on LinkedIn. Because this third source wouldn’t acknowledge the release date I had heard from the previous two sources, I’ll just leave it as “coming soon.”

I informed both @NintendoPrime and @NateDrake about this privately. There’s one more person I have informed, but they wish to remain anonymous.

I personally had always wished for TTYD remaster. I never played it on GCN so I’m over the moon excited to finally play it on Switch soon.

Thats-bullshit-but-i-believe-it.jpg

Coming soon as in releasing before the end of this calendar year?

Also also for the sake of keeping attention low I'd strongly recommend [reply] [/reply] tags just to keep it local to the thread if you don't want to draw too much attention to yourself

 

[Seven]

https://www.dualshockers.com/nintendo-games-are-boring/

Reading that article the only thing that stuck to my mind was the thought: did Kid Icarus Uprising use the gyroscope for the flying segments?

It's been a long while since I last played it so I'm not sure.

 

[curl-6]

Almost forgot, happy Easter fami folks, hope you have an Eggcellent day and that it's all it's Cracked up to be

 

[9-Volt]

Super Bomberman R 2 release date set for September

Konami has revealed a final Super Bomberman R 2 release date and has shared new details about the game.

nintendoeverything.com

FINALLY! One game I especially was waiting for, kinda depressed when its Nintendo page disappeared. I need Bomberman hooked into my veins all. The Time.

 

[Brofield]

Spoiler: Super Mario movie end credits music spoiler

 

[thoughthaver]

Reading that article the only thing that stuck to my mind was the thought: did Kid Icarus Uprising use the gyroscope for the flying segments?

It's been a long while since I last played it so I'm not sure.

im not seeing anything about uprising even having gyroscope functions so like with everything in that article im assuming its a "source: i made it the fuck up" moment

 

[Xaltmas]

I'm glad the Masters is over. I work at one of the most famous golf resorts in the world but don't watch or play the game so when people ask me what's going on or who's in the lead it's like I dunno.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

The debate is over. We finally know who is faster.

I haven’t seen it in over a decade. It’s not horrible, but they really should’ve dropped the FF branding from it just to keep expectations in check. It’s good for what it tries to do at a time. But a lot of people went in expecting chocobos and moogles and it ain’t that at all. And after seeing how Advent Children turned out I think that was 110% the right call. Just… they should’ve called it “Spirits Within” and left it at that.

Hell, not even "Final Fantasy" had chocobos and moogles. But things like a weird group of characters having to collect several bafmodads to save the day, arguments about the planet having a spirit, visitation from a remnant of an alien civilization, overly aggressive generals futilely using stupid large weapons--all felt pretty Sakaguchi Final Fantasy to me.

 

[Magic-Man]

Wouldn't a Paper Mario Thousand Year Door remaster go against all of the current Nintendo rules regarding the Mario IP? I doubt it happens for that reason.

 

[curl-6]

Wonder what happened to Saber. They're supposed to have 2 Switch ports but not a single word from them. It's like, as if, they're dead. In two months, there will be 2 years after the announcement of Kingdom Come Switch port...

I emailed them about this; Kingdom Come is still in development for Switch, it just saw a big delay because the team working on it is in Ukraine, so under the circumstances the fact it's still coming deserves massive props.

 

[xghost777]

Wouldn't a Paper Mario Thousand Year Door remaster go against all of the current Nintendo rules regarding the Mario IP? I doubt it happens for that reason.

I feel like if it ever happens, they’ll market it by pointing out how weirdly it goes against the rules. So to more answer your question, it’s grandfathered in weirdness and thus allowed.

Just replayed it last year and it’s absolutely the best one still so I hope it gets rereleased in some form eventually.

 

[chocolate_supra]

Wouldn't a Paper Mario Thousand Year Door remaster go against all of the current Nintendo rules regarding the Mario IP? I doubt it happens for that reason.

It would definitely line up with Nintendo's rule of making a lot of money.

 

[EvilChameleon]

The "Nintendo doesn't allow for creative characters" thing has entered the same territory as the "Daleks have to appear every year in Doctor Who or they lose the rights" thing. Neither has ever been confirmed by the powers that be, yet there's always just enough evidence to make you think they're true.

 

[Mr_No_U]

Now that the Mario movie is out I hope things get more interesting newswise

 

[xghost777]

We crossed 4,000 members!

 

[shoptroll]

Hell, not even "Final Fantasy" had chocobos and moogles. But things like a weird group of characters having to collect several bafmodads to save the day, arguments about the planet having a spirit, visitation from a remnant of an alien civilization, overly aggressive generals futilely using stupid large weapons--all felt pretty Sakaguchi Final Fantasy to me.

Yea, you can definitely tell it was penned in the late 90’s by Square. So many themes overlapping with Final Fantasy VII in particular. But that’s sort of the thing where I’m not entirely sure a lot of people come to the series for. Thematically everything is there. But the window dressing just isn’t.

 

[thoughthaver]

We crossed 4,000 members!

ban someone we need to go back to 3,999

 

[chocolate_supra]

ban someone we need to go back to 3,999

Do it to @Dark Cloud and we'll get the post-movie Direct some people are expecting.

 

[SammyJ9]

Now that the Mario movie is out I hope things get more interesting newswise

I hope so too. April may still be slow around the industry other than some more Zelda stuff, but at least we’ve got that and then into May the summer news will start to ramp up too.

 

[Brofield]

The "Nintendo doesn't allow for creative characters" thing has entered the same territory as the "Daleks have to appear every year in Doctor Who or they lose the rights" thing. Neither has ever been confirmed by the powers that be, yet there's always just enough evidence to make you think they're true.

I've never heard of the Dalek theory before but holy shit that is captivating

 

[meatbag]

We’ve been disparaging the Dualshockers article but turns out Sony has been up to similarly petty behavior in their patent applications since 2011:

 

[Gay Bowser]

We’ve been disparaging the Dualshockers article but turns out Sony has been up to similarly petty behavior in their patent applications since 2011:

Sony has always had a huge case of “not invented here” syndrome where everything that wasn’t the Sony Way was inferior. They thought SD was inferior to Memory Stick right up to the moment they were forced by the market to begrudgingly support it. They thought MP3 was inferior to their proprietary ATRAC format. Even when they were using a broader industry standard, they had to slap a Sony-specific brand on it. IEEE 1394, better known as FireWire, was always “i.Link” on Sony devices.

A lot of the time they were actually right, in a sense, and their internally developed format did have some notable advantages – but they repeatedly underestimated the value of the competing format being more broadly adopted and how fast that would drive it to improve and advance.

I always wonder why Sony, a brand that has its roots in sound, didn’t try to buy Sonos when that brand was in its infancy. It was clear that Wi-Fi based whole-home audio was going to be A Thing and Sonos was there before any of the established players. But, of course, Sony decided instead to try to market their own internally-developed alternative instead, the Sony Altus system, which quickly failed. And now we’re in this weird space where Sonos is a more relevant brand in home audio than Sony, which pretty much is just game consoles and cameras these days.

 

[Mekanos]

Just beat Castlevania 3. I've never been the biggest Castlevania guy, the games are good but they've never really excited me, but this I enjoyed quite a bit. The multiple characters add a fun dynamic and there's some really cool ideas and spritework here. That said towards the end there's some stuff that feels cheap - I fucking hate fighting Death no matter what game it is - but this is the first Castlevania game I beat and then ended up wanting to replay after to get better at. I'd still say Rondo is my favorite Classicvania (I've played 1/3/4/Rondo, and SOTN), but this is right behind it. Fantastic soundtrack too, as per usual.

 

[Party Sklar]

Just pre-ordered the Zelda OLED on Amazon (and got a standard Pro Controller also). I have been going back and forth for a few weeks now if I was going to make the move as we know new hardware will probably arrive in 2024ish... but I need Zelda and Metroid Prime Remastered and Pikmin.

Haven't had a Switch since mid 2019 (last game I got was Link's Awakening) as my Switch died. Time to research on what I missed in 2020, 2021 and 2022, any suggestions would help

Debating if I should sign up for a month of NSO to buy the vouchers before Zelda, no idea when those will end. I somehow still have $129.80 in my Nintendo Wallet lol

The vouchers are valid for 12 months! As for the games you would’ve missed in the last few years, I’d recommend (limiting the list to Switch exclusives so it’s not too long):

• Paper Mario: The Origami King (if you can forgive the fact that it’s not a RPG, just a very well-written and fun adventure game)
• No More Heroes III (the three games are on Switch if you want)
• Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore
• Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
• Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
• Shin Megami Tensei V
• Super Mario 3D World + Bowser’s Fury
• Metroid Dread
• Monster Hunter Rise
• Kirby and the Forgotten Land
• Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes
• Live A Live
• 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (the only port I’m putting in this list, just to say that if you haven’t played it it’s an incredible game and it runs better on Switch that on PS4)
• Bayonetta 3
• Pokémon Legends: Arceus
• Xenoblade Chronicles 3
• Triangle Strategy

 

[entut1]

The "Nintendo doesn't allow for creative characters" thing has entered the same territory as the "Daleks have to appear every year in Doctor Who or they lose the rights" thing. Neither has ever been confirmed by the powers that be, yet there's always just enough evidence to make you think they're true.

It's interesting to look at the movie at the light of this statement. Toads have very minor variations in designs. Kong designs can be very different. Koopa designs do not have major variations

Spoiler

(but you notably have a punk Koopa who's design looks straight out of early Paper Mario)

 

[Johnzyboi]

Why am I learning about Thousand Year Door rumors on Reddit?

 

[entut1]

Why am I learning about Thousand Year Door rumors on Reddit?

huh, I hadn't seen it but last page it seems. Hoping that's not the main Paper Mario project if so, would rather have a new title in the franchise

 

[MisterSpo]

This isn't the first time Paper Mario remaster rumours - Thousand Year Door specifically - have turned up on this forum, though I haven't had any coffee so don't expect me to remember when I heard about it or who posted what. If Paper Mario did come this year, it'd be slightly ahead of schedule (usually ever 4 years, and Origami King was 2020), but it'd make a degree of sense given we have no Mario title for this year and there's some not unreasonable expectation some heavy hitters will be held back for new hardware.

Be interesting to see if that and the F Zero GX rumours pan out for releases this year, because that's 3 GC remasters from Nintendo in one year plus Baten Kaitos from Bamco. If Paper Mario was coming out this year, I'd actually expect it pretty soon; maybe even late August or early September.

 

[entut1]

This isn't the first time Paper Mario remaster rumours - Thousand Year Door specifically - have turned up on this forum, though I haven't had any coffee so don't expect me to remember when I heard about it or who posted what. If Paper Mario did come this year, it'd be slightly ahead of schedule (usually ever 4 years, and Origami King was 2020), but it'd make a degree of sense given we have no Mario title for this year and there's some not unreasonable expectation some heavy hitters will be held back for new hardware.

Be interesting to see if that and the F Zero GX rumours pan out for releases this year, because that's 3 GC remasters from Nintendo in one year plus Baten Kaitos from Bamco. If Paper Mario was coming out this year, I'd actually expect it pretty soon; maybe even late August or early September.

I don't think IS would work on a remaster for 3 years, that's the thing. Unless this is a full-on remake.

 

[xghost777]

This isn't the first time Paper Mario remaster rumours - Thousand Year Door specifically - have turned up on this forum, though I haven't had any coffee so don't expect me to remember when I heard about it or who posted what. If Paper Mario did come this year, it'd be slightly ahead of schedule (usually ever 4 years, and Origami King was 2020), but it'd make a degree of sense given we have no Mario title for this year and there's some not unreasonable expectation some heavy hitters will be held back for new hardware.

Be interesting to see if that and the F Zero GX rumours pan out for releases this year, because that's 3 GC remasters from Nintendo in one year plus Baten Kaitos from Bamco. If Paper Mario was coming out this year, I'd actually expect it pretty soon; maybe even late August or early September.

It was in the third Nintendo Direct Speculation thread back in August / September. Paper Mario TTYD was never outright said, but heavily hinted at as being a possibility as part of the Nintendo is always looking to get games remastered and a lot of GameCube games specifically were on the way discussion.

 

[MisterSpo]

I don't think IS would work on a remaster for 3 years, that's the thing. Unless this is a full-on remake.

Intelligent Systems are always working on multiple projects, and we shouldn't assume they handle development themselves if this is true. They supervised WayForward's Advance Wars remakes, for example, and Nintendo have been willing to outsource remasters for more prestigious series like Zelda. I'd assume Intelligent Systems had some role in a potential remaster, but I wouldn't assume it was their main focus or that it was even a big focus for them.

It certainly wouldn't have occupied IS's entire workforce for the last 3 years, but there seems to be a slight trend whereby they've had their games done well ahead of release. WarioWare had an age rating 12 months or so before release, suggesting it was content complete in summer 2020 (launched September 2021). FE Engage also seemed to be largely complete well ahead of the eventual release; seemed to be content complete around summer 2021, nearly 18 months before it released. There's been some spare bandwidth at IS, so to speak, over the last 18 months, and we also had rumours the studio was working on a Genealogy of the Holy War remake. Whatever supervision role they had on Advance Wars also concluded some time ago now (at least 12 months ago, given the game's delay).

I don't really draw any definitive conclusions from that other than the obvious one: as always, Intelligent Systems will have multiple irons in the fire, and it makes sense one is Fire Emblem and one is Paper Mario.

 

[entut1]

Intelligent Systems are always working on multiple projects, and we shouldn't assume they handle development themselves if this is true. They supervised WayForward's Advance Wars remakes, for example, and Nintendo have been willing to outsource remasters for more prestigious series like Zelda. I'd assume Intelligent Systems had some role in a potential remaster, but I wouldn't assume it was their main focus or that it was even a big focus for them.

It certainly wouldn't have occupied IS's entire workforce for the last 3 years, but there seems to be a slight trend whereby they've had their games done well ahead of release. WarioWare had an age rating 12 months or so before release, suggesting it was content complete in summer 2020 (launched September 2021). FE Engage also seemed to be largely complete well ahead of the eventual release; seemed to be content complete around summer 2021, nearly 18 months before it released. There's been some spare bandwidth at IS, so to speak, over the last 18 months, and we also had rumours the studio was working on a Genealogy of the Holy War remake. Whatever supervision role they had on Advance Wars also concluded some time ago now (at least 12 months ago, given the game's delay).

I don't really draw any definitive conclusions from that other than the obvious one: as always, Intelligent Systems will have multiple irons in the fire, and it makes sense one is Fire Emblem and one is Paper Mario.

Thanks for explaining in detail. If there's a TTYD remaster, it would really be pretty mind-blowing. It would essentially destroy any conception about Nintendo having an embargo on heavily modified Mario characters nowadays (at least for remasters/remakes)

 

[Imitatio]

We’ve been disparaging the Dualshockers article but turns out Sony has been up to similarly petty behavior in their patent applications since 2011:

I just <3 Sony!

(What a bunch of losers. xD)

 

[Sadist]

We crossed 4,000 members!

Yay!

Now post you silly people

 

[juuso]

I have a vague memory that a TTYD remaster was rumored before the Origami King reveal. There's also been a lot of talk about Gamecube ports from people in the know for this year, and might be that this is a part of that. Or not, who knows, but I would love a remaster since I never played the game.

 

[Catalyst]

The existence of Superstar Saga 3DS probably means that Nintendo would permit Thousand Year Door to get a remaster even though it doesn’t follow their current rules for the Mario brand. Rereleases are treated differently from new games.

 

[ziggyrivers]

Although I would kill for a TTYD HD Remaster, I’ll see it to believe it. I think Nintendo would rather release it when they get into the GameCube part of the Online membership.

Then again, they could ride the Mario Movie wave and release it, digital only, and garner part of the Switch’s install base.

 

[Luneth]

Although I would kill for a TTYD HD Remaster, I’ll see it to believe it. I think Nintendo would rather release it when they get into the GameCube part of the Online membership.

Then again, they could ride the Mario Movie wave and release it, digital only, and garner part of the Switch’s install base.

I don't think we will be getting ever a GC on NSO. They can get money from remastering the games, like they did with sunshine or Primer remastered. And GC doesn't have so much first party games left, assuming WW and TP HD will come to switch eventually.

If the finally announce Paper Mario and F-Zero GX remaster, I would discard totally the possibility of GC NSO.

 

[GhostWriter]

Man, it's been a minute since I talked here. I see we have a new remaster rumour to go along with the others that have been going around for the last few months or so.

NGL, after the confirmation of Metroid Prime: Remastered, I've got a bit more faith in these rumours. Makes it seem likely that the other rumoured remasters (F-Zero GX, Kid Icarus: Uprising) are real.

 

[Sparkling Hootle]

Wondering if we will get a Zelda direct announced this week, as we’re two days away from being a month away. Similar thing happened with Animal Crossing, where we were nearing the day before launch by a month (and people thought the game was going to get delayed), and then Nintendo announced a direct for Feb 20th, a month from the March 20th release date.

Would be nice and exciting to see more of Zelda will it’s own direct, get a story teaser and more gameplay.

 

[Smaggledaggle]

Good evening Fami, hope you all are having a brilliant day : )

I usually don’t do this, as I don’t like attention. And I hope even after this we will focus on the game, not me.

As some of you know, I do hobby journalism behind the scenes and research various things for fun. Some accurate Nintendo rumors that were reported by YouTubers and other sites in the past partially were based on my research. As I said, I don’t like attention and thus always asked everyone to keep me private, which I intend to continue remain private in those stories.

However, now I have something super excited that I’m aware of. Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door Remaster is finally happening and coming out soon!

I have been in touch with 3 sources with this. One of them redirected to me to the third source, who I hadn’t interacted before so it was just me cold messaging them on LinkedIn. Because this third source wouldn’t acknowledge the release date I had heard from the previous two sources, I’ll just leave it as “coming soon.”

I informed both @NintendoPrime and @NateDrake about this privately. There’s one more person I have informed, but they wish to remain anonymous.

I personally had always wished for TTYD remaster. I never played it on GCN so I’m over the moon excited to finally play it on Switch soon.

Has a certain blue puppet been informed of this info?

 

[PixelKnight]

IIRC it also coincides with the release anniversary for Mario Bros.


I haven’t seen it in over a decade. It’s not horrible, but they really should’ve dropped the FF branding from it just to keep expectations in check. It’s good for what it tries to do at a time. But a lot of people went in expecting chocobos and moogles and it ain’t that at all. And after seeing how Advent Children turned out I think that was 110% the right call. Just… they should’ve called it “Spirits Within” and left it at that.

I feel like Spirits Within had a mix of general rpg/videogame tropes of ancient advanced races, large-scale warfare and the sins of the past, apocalyptic settings, environmentalism, spirits and technology side-by-side, that would fit perfectly into a Final Fantasy game, particularly FFVII and FFX. But yeah the film was a story of one character with a link through generic FF themes rather than anything to do with what it’s like being a FF party of adventurers.

Edit- sorry, just saw you said as much above!

 

[HockeyBird]

 

[LoneRanger]

I have 100% faith that F-Zero GX, Paper Mario TTYD and KI Uprising are getting sustancial remasters and planned to be launch between 2023 and 2024.

In addition, I think they will have a small release window or even shadowdropped like Prime 1 Remaster.

 

[Cucufate]

I've never heard of the Dalek theory before but holy shit that is captivating

Oh, boy, here I go, rambling about Doctor Who again...

The contractually-obligated Dalek theory is so prevalent that even Steven Moffat was asked about it during his time as showrunner (he said it wasn't true, by the way). Personally, I think it's just a combination of the Daleks being THE Doctor Who monster as well as the fact that the BBC apparently had to pay quite a sum of money for the rights to feature the Daleks in New Who, so they probably think they might as well use them whenever they feel like it.

Incidentally, had the BBC not managed to get the rights to use the Daleks, the Ninth Doctor episode "Dalek" wouldn't have happened (obviously) and it would have been replaced by another episode titled "Absence of the Daleks", which would have revealed that the Daleks had been exterminated (ba dum tss) by a Dalek killer race called the Toclafane.

This of course would have been bullshit, because only one being is worthy of the Dalek Killer title:

(the Doctor Who Expanded Universe is fucking wild, yo)

 

[Brofield]

Oh, boy, here I go, rambling about Doctor Who again...

The contractually-obligated Dalek theory is so prevalent that even Steven Moffat was asked about it during his time as showrunner (he said it wasn't true, by the way). Personally, I think it's just a combination of the Daleks being THE Doctor Who monster as well as the fact that the BBC apparently had to pay quite a sum of money for the rights to feature the Daleks in New Who, so they probably think they might as well use them whenever they feel like it.

Incidentally, had the BBC not managed to get the rights to use the Daleks, the Ninth Doctor episode "Dalek" wouldn't have happened (obviously) and it would have been replaced by another episode titled "Absence of the Daleks", which would have revealed that the Daleks had been exterminated (ba dum tss) by a Dalek killer race called the Toclafane.

This of course would have been bullshit, because only one being is worthy of the Dalek Killer title:

(the Doctor Who Expanded Universe is fucking wild, yo)

I have never heard of any of this (nor the DWEU), but holy shit I am invested.

 

[ziggyrivers]

I don't think we will be getting ever a GC on NSO. They can get money from remastering the games, like they did with sunshine or Primer remastered. And GC doesn't have so much first party games left, assuming WW and TP HD will come to switch eventually.

If the finally announce Paper Mario and F-Zero GX remaster, I would discard totally the possibility of GC NSO.

Good points.

Man, it's been a minute since I talked here. I see we have a new remaster rumour to go along with the others that have been going around for the last few months or so.

NGL, after the confirmation of Metroid Prime: Remastered, I've got a bit more faith in these rumours. Makes it seem likely that the other rumoured remasters (F-Zero GX, Kid Icarus: Uprising) are real.

I’d kill for Kid Icarus!

Wondering if we will get a Zelda direct announced this week, as we’re two days away from being a month away. Similar thing happened with Animal Crossing, where we were nearing the day before launch by a month (and people thought the game was going to get delayed), and then Nintendo announced a direct for Feb 20th, a month from the March 20th release date.

Would be nice and exciting to see more of Zelda will it’s own direct, get a story teaser and more gameplay.

I don’t think we’ll get a Zelda Direct. We’ll get more promo and stuff, but not a Direct. They went full with the gameplay presentation