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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

When will the next Direct air?

  • It's going to be in May! cHaOs!

    Votes: 11 4.3%

  • Patterns, man. 14th of June, 2022. The usual.

    Votes: 211 81.8%

  • Nintendo will be weird again, early July.

    Votes: 23 8.9%

  • Nintendo's Twitter Direct's will be the norm, Septermber 2022.

    Votes: 6 2.3%

  • Geoff the Summerman will add it to Summer Gamefest

    Votes: 7 2.7%
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    258
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MusicProposition said:
I‘m pretty sure nobody on here said „Third party games don’t count“. But they don’t need a dedicated Direct for them. They don’t necessarily need to know what 3rds are working on, because the Switch was never the most interesting platform for them and especially it’s not now with its very outdated hardware. So yes, Sony and Microsoft DO have third party and it’s definitely something different to get Elden Ring or Gotham Knights in comparison to a 540p version of Sniper Elite 4.
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Sniper Elite 4 on Switch is a very solid port. Runs at 1080p on dock, and 720p on portable mode, with a solid framerate.

in fact rebellion has given conferences explaining how they have achieved the switch port
 
MisterSpo said:
... and they will have new games out? I know Rabbids is Ubisoft but it's exclusive and uses the Mario license. Splatoon 3 in September is big, EPD, and new, and will sell through the holidays. Bayonetta 3 would be new and first-party. A 1 2 Switch sequel would be a new EPD title, too.

Plus, they'd have genre and brand variety. I agree, there's probably a bit more; but if they have those five or six games in a four month spell, it's in keeping with what they've done in the past, but not as aggressive as some years (cough, 2019, cough). Last year had five games in that window, for example.
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I don't think Nintendo views Mario + Rabbids in the same vein, though. This would be the first showcase Nintendo has ever had where they actually make an effort to market the crossover, every other time it's just been "it exists, here you go". At the very least, I'd say it's no more prominent than Shin Megami Tensei V in Nintendo's marketing plans. Splatoon 3 doesn't really apply here given that it's releasing outside the holiday window, and based on rumors, I doubt Nintendo is all that confident in the Smelly Stallion game either.

Again, it's not a matter of how many units Nintendo will move. Pokemon alone means Nintendo will dominate the holiday season, everything else beyond that is icing on the cake. But even when they are poised to dominate, they still make sure to have something of their own in that final period alongside Pokemon. It's been that way for over a decade. And while I don't think it's impossible for Bayonetta to fill that hole, that would leave a noticeable gap in their release schedule, and I doubt they'd let it to stay that way considering that they supposedly have multiple games more or less finished at this point in time.
 
What is the logic behind splitting up shows into a third-party focused one and one that may show first-party stuff releasing later this year to air at some later date? Surely anything this year is ready to have some sort of reveal. Especially if it's basically done.
 
I know I'm advocating for another major Nintendo release, but even if it doesn't happen I don't think the lineup for this year is bad in the slightest. If the remaining games can deliver, I'd probably put it as the 3rd best Switch year at the absolute worst, most likely 2nd best. People are taking the strong H1 for granted this year.
 
Pflaumenmus12 said:
The political side of Nintendo has to be especially shitty yeah looking at how they treat their contract workers and how people had to fight for the pride parade they organized. I am not gonna lie. I don't like the company.... I like their games and the developers pouring their heart into them. So yes... it feels really corporate like nowadays which really started to happen after Iwatas death imo.

Like I said I am not excusing their communication.
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Yeah, I get ya. I'm not having a go at you or anything; just expressing some really substantial frustrations I have with what Nintendo's been doing recently and how they've changed as a company.

And yeah - Nintendo is one of the only gaming companies who doesn't even make their logo a rainbow during pride month. It's like, yeah, that means jack-shit at the end of the day, but come on. There's doing the bare minimum and then there's... Nintendo. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get anything next week because of the current climate in America. However, I'm not naive enough to believe that Nintendo genuinely cares about said climate; they simply care about how that climate might affect the KPIs of their upcoming corporate-devised Partner Direct.
 
Plum said:
Yeah, I get ya. I'm not having a go at you or anything; just expressing some really substantial frustrations I have with what Nintendo's been doing recently and how they've changed as a company.

And yeah - Nintendo is one of the only gaming companies who doesn't even make their logo a rainbow during pride month. It's like, yeah, that means jack-shit at the end of the day, but come on. There's doing the bare minimum and then there's... Nintendo. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get anything next week because of the current climate in America. However, I'm not naive enough to believe that Nintendo genuinely cares about said climate; they simply care about how that climate might affect the KPIs of their upcoming corporate-devised Partner Direct.
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no worries dude, I was never offended. (y) don't want to sound condescending either. just stating my point of view.
 
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9-Volt said:
Actually it's pretty likely for AW to get dated in this Direct. Wayforward is probably done removing/editing out Olaf and Colin and the game should be ready for a second chance.
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Lmao. Poor Colin. "I... I j-just wanted to do my best, sir!" proceeds to absolutely wreck every other CO despite his insecurities because Power of Money is broken

Couldn't they just change their uniforms? Or redesign Blue Moon's units away from the WW2 Soviet aesthetic?
 
I’m in the mind now though that, specifically big 3rd party games from the PS4/XBO era, I would prefer the devs to make them exclusively for the next Switch console if that is indeed coming within the next 12-18 months. Would rather them have more powerful hardware to target and we get a better port with less cutbacks than target the OG model still.
 
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ShadowTails said:
Before the first partner showcase was announced multiple insiders were certain that it was gonna be a regular direct or a mini, like almost up to the announcement however none of them knew that they were starting a new brand of directs called partners back then for the year.
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And when I say multiple I mean multiple, Nate, Kelios, King zell, zippo, don’t remember if Zhuge said anything back then
 
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ShadowTails said:
Before the first partner showcase was announced multiple insiders were certain that it was gonna be a regular direct or a mini, like almost up to the announcement however none of them knew that they were starting a new brand of directs called partners back then for the year.
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Nate just addressed this though. Partners don't know what the branding of the direct is going to be, just that they're gonna be in one. That's where a lot of insider information is sourced from, so naturally it follows that insiders wouldn't know about the branding either.
 
feels kinda shitty to know that I will be 35 when the next Zelda after Botw 2 comes out or potentially even older. fuck time
 
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ElisaurusWrecks said:
Lmao. Poor Colin. "I... I j-just wanted to do my best, sir!" proceeds to absolutely wreck every other CO despite his insecurities because Power of Money is broken

Couldn't they just change their uniforms? Or redesign Blue Moon's units away from the WW2 Soviet aesthetic?
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Yeah I think they have changed the way they look instead of removing them altogether. Olaf is literally Stalin with a full beard and Colin is wearing a red army uniform. Should be easy giving them a brand new theme.
 
And now we have 1 person being Nate
Thunder84 said:
Nate just addressed this though. Partners don't know what the branding of the direct is going to be, just that they're gonna be in one. That's where a lot of insider information is sourced from, so naturally it follows that insiders wouldn't know about the branding either.
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If Nate doesn’t know the branding then why is he saying it’s a partner showcase? 🤔
 
Thunder84 said:
I know I'm advocating for another major Nintendo release, but even if it doesn't happen I don't think the lineup for this year is bad in the slightest. If the remaining games can deliver, I'd probably put it as the 3rd best Switch year at the absolute worst, most likely 2nd best. People are taking the strong H1 for granted this year.
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That’s how I see this year with what we know is minimum the third best year.
 
As I was saying 1 person that being Nate is saying Partners meanwhile another reliable insider saying an exact time and the next day but doesn’t know the brand. Again don’t know why Nate is saying a partner showcase when clearly insiders don’t know the branding.
 
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ShadowTails said:
And now we have 1 person being Nate

If Nate doesn’t know the branding then why is he saying it’s a partner showcase? 🤔
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Probably because he got new info? If I remember correctly, people were able to pinpoint that the July 2020 direct wasn't a normal one as we got closer to that too.

I'm not the guy, so don't ask me, but it's not a sign of anything that he's now able to confirm the branding. Hell, he was the first insider out there to stand by a late June direct in the first place, so it's pretty obvious to me that he's not making anything up here.
 
9-Volt said:
Yeah I think they have changed the way they look instead of removing them altogether. Olaf is literally Stalin with a full beard and Colin is wearing a red army uniform. Should be easy giving them a brand new theme.
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So long as the redesigns are reminiscent of the originals without being as evocative, I could accept that as a reasonable compromise. At this point I just really want the game.

My only fear is that they'll be super ugly.
 
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Hey, just one thing I need:
It's confirmed to NOT BE a general after ALL? Or there is still chance that It will be general one?
 
I will say I think it's silly for anyone to say what branding the direct is. It's clearly very obfuscated and not worth putting your neck out for. We know there's a direct coming, it'll have a third party focus, that's the important thing. What it will actually be called isn't all that important.
 
Thunder84 said:
Probably because he got new info? If I remember correctly, people were able to pinpoint that the July 2020 direct wasn't a normal one as we got closer to that too.

I'm not the guy, so don't ask me, but it's not a sign of anything that he's now able to confirm the branding. Hell, he was the first insider out there to stand by a late June direct in the first place, so it's pretty obvious to me that he's not making anything up here.
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Well yeah he was able to say late June cause nintendo didn’t want to be associated with SGF however he never said an exact date until Alanah said something and now we have another credible insider contradicting him. I personally don’t think he got new info on the branding and he’s saying partner cause that’s what he’s assuming based on the 3rd party source that told him
 
Dark Cloud said:
That’s how I see this year with what we know is minimum the third best year.
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the new Pokemon alone has the potential to make this year a top 3 contender. full co-op in an open world is huge for Pokemon.
 
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ShadowTails said:
Well yeah he was able to say late June cause nintendo didn’t want to be associated with SGF however he never said an exact date until Alanah said something and now we have another credible insider contradicting him. I personally don’t think he got new info on the branding and he’s saying partner cause that’s what he’s assuming based on the 3rd party source that told him
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He'd been hinting at the 28th well before Alanah had even brought up the 29th.
 
ShadowTails said:
Before the first partner showcase was announced multiple insiders were certain that it was gonna be a regular direct or a mini, like almost up to the announcement however none of them knew that they were starting a new brand of directs called partners back then for the year.
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I mean I get you are now more careful about inside information, but how could they have possibly know what format it would be. Nintendo has never done a Partner Direct before so no one didn't even questioned that it could be anything different than a General or a Mini.
 
Thunder84 said:
I think people are just caught up in the negativity at the moment. It's a lot easier to feel down on a year when there hasn't been anything new added to the lineup for a while.
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Right. I got 3D Kirby this year and I loved it! Pokémon Legends Arceus is one of my favorites in the series ever. Xenoblade 3 will probably be a top 10 switch game for me. This year will definitely look backed on as one of the the great years for Switch.
 
Neves said:
To me it seems like all of these insiders have heard of a handful of third party games and basically nothing first party and are just assuming there won't be any.
Maybe it's just copium, but what if Nintendo is keeping their cards close to their chest so they simply haven't leaked (yet).
Anyways, I really hope it's a General Direct - I don't think I can handle waiting until September.
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Maybe I'm on a copium high, but I still stand by what I said this morning before all of the articles and Nate's new messages.
 
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Plonk said:
The very short term communication of the occurrence and content of their Directs is the point causing the whole disappointment.

There is probably multiple factor explaining it.
Corporation culture: Nintendo is always rather secretive.
A new hardware: the security measure a big society can take when it revolves about a new product in a competitive environment can be massive (NDA, security guys with guns, giving only a fraction of the informations to subcontractors to the point they have difficulties doing their job). I have witnessed it in an other context.
The international coordination. Probably a logistics nightmare.

But I don't try to find excuse for the whole mess. Truth is, they could have announced the whole thing last week simultaneously with the Xeno3 Direct.

Nevertheless, it makes me think of something. Maybe they do have too much to communicate? The sweet spot for a general Direct is 40ish minutes. An entry Punchline, headlines, something new/big, headlines, a detailed presentation of the next big thing, headlines/reel and the on more thing. Concise, good pacing, the right amount of adds with something more exciting. That's why we love them.
The thing is, the 20-21 schedule has been messed up by COViD. A lot of games were probably planned for earlier. We know for a fact that Nintendonis literally siting on games right now (e.g. fire emblem, probably Metroid prime 1 HD). They have already announced games which must be presented (Splatoon 3, Bayo 3). We hear rumor of new ones since months (Donkey kong). And it is probably partly the same for third parties.

So it could be (these are only hypothesis but bear with me) that they decide to split in between a game specific, third-parties an nintendo focused Direct to not end with a 60-65 ish presentation which would be no fun to watch.

I would be okay with that.

Now why they wouldn't simply TALK ABOUT IT. Not a clue. I'm flabbergasted.
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Probably there was no point in talking about it when announcing the Xeno Direct. It’s not Nintendo’s fault nor should they respond to when people hype themselves off of rumour or speculation.
Plum said:
Forget I ever mentioned the leakers. I get it. I literally only mentioned them because Glio was implying that there was literally no reason to expect a General Direct. I didn't say "blame them for the disappointment," (though, really, qualitative leaks seem like they'll never be worthwhile to me) or anything. Please.

I get it.


Thing is, though - I don't believe that all of Nintendo's supposed woes are due to the pandemic. We know that they sit on games for months, if not years, because they need to find an "opportune," time for them to release. They've consistently drip-fed NSO titles throughout the entire generation. Certain types of games from are consistently bereft of content no matter when they release.

Like, yeah, the pandemic's a big thing and it's hit a lot of things; but I'm tired of pretending like it's an excuse for, say, staying almost completely silent on BotW2 until what is liable to be the absolute minute. Or choosing to a Partner Direct with no Treehouse despite doing a full E3 Direct with Treehouse last year. Or taking 7 years to port a bunch of Mario Kart Tour tracks to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

When I say it's hard to be a Nintendo fan, it's because Nintendo doesn't seem like a company who wants 'fans' anymore. They seem like a company who just wants to put out their products, have people buy them, and then disappear into the ether until it's time for next product. They want to dictate exactly what their "product" is at all times; to dictate that we must have things in exactly the way they want them to be. That "we can't have TPHD because BotW2 is scheduled for Q2 2023, and it represents a 0.5% potential decrease to BotW2's profit potential." They don't let developers on stage at The Game Awards; they don't mingle with the wider industry at large in any real way; they have systematically kicked out any unique voices from their marketing.

I mean, they're the only one of the main three whose entire 'production group' has stayed completely, deafeningly silent on the Roe vs. Wade repeal. Not even their American teams - one of which is literally based in Texas - have said anything. I 100% wouldn't be surprised if they have a gag clause preventing any of their companies from saying anything 'political.' I know that that and silly game reveals aren't the same thing, but I think it's a really good indication of the soullessness and ruthless dedication to marketing efficiency that is corporate Nintendo. If it doesn't serve to help their carefully-crafted marketing plan it does not exist to them.

It's just so frustrating and so tiring.
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Welcome to corporations whether you become a fan or not is entirely up to you based on the products they put out. All companies run on tight marketing schedules that they wanna control the narrative of for products they release. They all want you to buy the latest & greatest thing. Even with Iwata & Reggie there Nintendo has always been a ruthless soulless corporation like any other. Check the latest accusation against them recently in terms of worker abuse.

You can’t have TPHD because they don’t want to release it yet & has nothing to do with marginally impacting BoTW2. They don’t let their developers on stage for a variety of reasons & also because they don’t see the Game Awards as worthwhile. They do interact with the wider industry just through backroom deals. And, who have they systematically kicked out from their marketing; cause either the people left, died, or retired with people not wanting to replace.

And, yet Sony, for example, had a gag clause handed down from their CEO Jim Ryan forbidding talk about abortion when the repeal was leaked. Even going as far as take 3 whole paragraphs to talk about his dog. The fact that every single one of these reports has “broken silence” or an alternative to that says it all. Even Bungie spat in the face of that order. We saw what happened with ABK releasing their statement during the BLM protests. I just don’t trust companies words & want to see long proactive major actions from them instead of finding out a week later they are busting unions.
 
I don't buy the "well maybe they'll do something for first-party games later in the Summer" idea when they typically do a Direct in September before TGS. Why skip June only to space two first-party presentations closer together?

But of course, that's assuming that even the usual September Direct is a safe bet anymore, which it might not be since apparently were stuck in another 2020 Partner Presentation hellscape again

We're fucked until September, at minimum
 
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