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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

When will the next Direct air?

  • It's going to be in May! cHaOs!

    Votes: 11 4.3%
  • Patterns, man. 14th of June, 2022. The usual.

    Votes: 211 81.8%
  • Nintendo will be weird again, early July.

    Votes: 23 8.9%
  • Nintendo's Twitter Direct's will be the norm, Septermber 2022.

    Votes: 6 2.3%
  • Geoff the Summerman will add it to Summer Gamefest

    Votes: 7 2.7%

  • Total voters
    258
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It's a Partner Direct but it's all the third party support you hoped for these past 5 years condensed into one 30 minute presentation

-All Persona games including the Qs and the dancings announced for Switch. Shadow drop
-GTA V and Red Dead Redemption 2 coming to Switch
-Xenosaga Trilogy HD
-Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters and FF9 Remake announced
-New Resident Evil
-All Yakuza games coming to Switch. Nagoshi appears and publicly apologizes for lack of support until now.
-Harada commits Sudoku live on stream. He gets stuck on the puzzle only 30 seconds in
-Halo MCC coming to Switch
-Skies of Acardia 2 is a Switch exclusive
-Rockstar's The Agent is uncancelled
-Konami making a new Suikoden game
 
So I guess these things are that good, that earlier when you haven't been given a branding of the Direct you just though this is General. Is that right?
Yes. These things easily could have been in a General Direct. As was said back in 2020, the type of show is not given. Partners know they are in a Direct. That's it.

I said countless times I could not dismiss the possibility of a Mini/Partner back when the timing leaked. That was my official stance.
 
Rdr2 probably won't release on Switch, but that's not really because of technical limitations; if anything, the game is quite optimized on base PS4 and xbox1.
 
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Yes. These things easily could have been in a General Direct. As was said back in 2020, the type of show is not given. Partners know they are in a Direct. That's it.
I understand if you can't answer this, but are you talking about exclusive games or multi-platform games?
 
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It's exciting to hear there could be some pretty prominent stuff in the partner showcase. I'm going in not expecting anything for me, but if it makes others happy then that's great.
 
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Forget I ever mentioned the leakers. I get it. I literally only mentioned them because Glio was implying that there was literally no reason to expect a General Direct. I didn't say "blame them for the disappointment," (though, really, qualitative leaks seem like they'll never be worthwhile to me) or anything. Please.

I get it.

I know dude. I feel for you. Didn't want you to get the feeling that the things you care for aren't worth shit.
Because of course they do.

But at the end of the day we have also accept the truth that gaming companies as a whole still struggle with the pandemic. Game development was hard enough before Covid hot.

I am also no stranger to criticizing their communication. I just did last week because honestly they should say that they don't do a direct this month. They don't owe us shit but it shows that they aren't really aware what fans expect at this time of year and if they are they
don't give a shit about it.

Personally speaking I will wait for tuesday and see whats up with the direct.
Thing is, though - I don't believe that all of Nintendo's supposed woes are due to the pandemic. We know that they sit on games for months, if not years, because they need to find an "opportune," time for them to release. They've consistently drip-fed NSO titles throughout the entire generation. Certain types of games from are consistently bereft of content no matter when they release.

Like, yeah, the pandemic's a big thing and it's hit a lot of things; but I'm tired of pretending like it's an excuse for, say, staying almost completely silent on BotW2 until what is liable to be the absolute minute. Or choosing to a Partner Direct with no Treehouse despite doing a full E3 Direct with Treehouse last year. Or taking 7 years to port a bunch of Mario Kart Tour tracks to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

When I say it's hard to be a Nintendo fan, it's because Nintendo doesn't seem like a company who wants 'fans' anymore. They seem like a company who just wants to put out their products, have people buy them, and then disappear into the ether until it's time for next product. They want to dictate exactly what their "product" is at all times; to dictate that we must have things in exactly the way they want them to be. That "we can't have TPHD because BotW2 is scheduled for Q2 2023, and it represents a 0.5% potential decrease to BotW2's profit potential." They don't let developers on stage at The Game Awards; they don't mingle with the wider industry at large in any real way; they have systematically kicked out any unique voices from their marketing.

I mean, they're the only one of the main three whose entire 'production group' has stayed completely, deafeningly silent on the Roe vs. Wade repeal. Not even their American teams - one of which is literally based in Texas - have said anything. I 100% wouldn't be surprised if they have a gag clause preventing any of their companies from saying anything 'political.' I know that that and silly game reveals aren't the same thing, but I think it's a really good indication of the soullessness and ruthless dedication to marketing efficiency that is corporate Nintendo. If it doesn't serve to help their carefully-crafted marketing plan it does not exist to them.

It's just so frustrating and so tiring.
 
I'm not anticipating Fire Emblem Warriors DLC, at least not this early. The structure of the game does not lend itself well to a season pass at all.

If it does get any DLC, it'll be in the way of a story expansion, which would be a September direct thing most likely.
 
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Maybe Kit was right saying Nintendo wants to shakeup their Direct schedule. He said they’ve become so predictable. He would be wrong on saying there’d be no direct this month. A Partners Direct is shaking it up. And maybe we get a first party direct in July.

the idea of the timing of marketing events they want people to watch being "predictable" being a bad thing is just so baffling to me

edit: not a shot at you or Kit so much as the very idea of that in general
 
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Is it more like a 10 minute partner direct or more like a 30 minute Mini direct?

Focus on Third Parties isn't a bad thing for me. At least if it have a fuckton of announcements! We know a lot of first party stuff already. So give me some of this:

Alan Wake
Batman Arkham Trilogy
Bayonetta 3
Call of Duty
Darksiders 4
Dark Souls Trilogy
Dying Light 2
Elden Ring
Epic Mickey
Fallout
Final Fantasy 13 Collection
Final Fantasy Pixel Master
Golden Eye
Halo MCC Collection
Hollow Knight Silksong
Hogwarts Legacy
Kingdom Come: Deliverence
Mafia Trilogie
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Mass Effect Trilogy
Persona 5 Royal
Portal Collection
Red Dead Redemption 2
Resident Evil 2,3,7,8 Revelation 3
Street Fighter
Tactics Ogre Remaster
Tekken
Timesplitters
Tomb Raider Trilogy

Let's Go!!!
 
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It's just so fucking tiring having folks say "actually, that thing that made you really happy before doesn't count for shit. You're just entitled for wanting it to happen again; the corporate overlords know best." Like, we all talk about toxicity here, but maybe part of that is because some folks simply don't want to accept that disappointment can be a legitimate feeling. That list war rhetoric which spouts how "actually, Nintendo Co. LTD released 5 video game entertainment products this year. That means you are wrong. Anaemic sports titles are actually - in fact - the exact same as lengthy single-player adventures." helps no-one and does nothing.
Are the recent Multiplayer titles disappointing content wise? - definitely. Especially if you want Single Player Content they don't really offer much. And yes it is strange that it works for Nintendo to sell these titles for so much money, for example it would have been a much better idea to include Switch Sports in NSO + Expansion. I am disappointed at Mario Strikers and Switch Sports, but I never heard people saying the stuff you are "quoting". I have no problem if people enjoy these games or are happy to pay the money for it. Liking a game or being disappointed at it are subjective feelings. Yes there is absolutely no problem to criticize Nintendo and their decisions, but we can do that without antagonizing each other.

And towards Insiders: Even without them we were all expecting that Nintendo'll do a big fancy direct and by all those wishlist/prediction posts you can see that people were expecting way to much. In the end the disappointment about a "Partners" Direct will still be there, even if we wouldn't have known the date in advance.
 
I'm genuinely curious to find out what's in this Partner/Mini/Lieutenant Direct, what branding they go for and why.

2020 was weird in some ways because I think they could have easily had two relatively normal if somewhat middling Directs during their usual timeslots (June and September) with everything that was announced throughout the year (three Partner Directs, Mario anniversary Direct, Twitter drops).
 
You can’t really think from a commercial perspective though. Nintendo could scrap everything besides Pokémon ScarVi and be more than set between that, Pokémon Legends, and Mario Kart 8.

Even if they’re more than commercially set, they still like to have something new out in the holiday window. That’s just how they operate.
... and they will have new games out? I know Rabbids is Ubisoft but it's exclusive and uses the Mario license. Splatoon 3 in September is big, EPD, and new, and will sell through the holidays. Bayonetta 3 would be new and first-party. A 1 2 Switch sequel would be a new EPD title, too.

Plus, they'd have genre and brand variety. I agree, there's probably a bit more; but if they have those five or six games in a four month spell, it's in keeping with what they've done in the past, but not as aggressive as some years (cough, 2019, cough). Last year had five games in that window, for example.
 
Some third party games which have a chance of being shown:
  • Kingdom Come: Deliverance
  • Batman Arkham Collection
  • Alan Wake remake
  • Tactics Ogre: Reborn

Some third part games I wish they would show:
  • Inazuma Eleven: Ares (please, I need this)
  • Professor Layton Collection
  • Henry Hatsworth in a puzzling adventure 2
 
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Is it more like a 10 minute partner direct or more like a 30 minute Mini direct?

Focus on Third Parties isn't a bad thing for me. At least if it have a fuckton of announcements! We know a lot of first party stuff already. So give me some of this:

Alan Wake
Batman Arkham Trilogy
Bayonetta 3
Call of Duty
Darksiders 4
Dark Souls Trilogy
Dying Light 2
Elden Ring
Fallout
Final Fantasy Pixel Master
Golden Eye
Halo MCC Collection
Hollow Knight Silksong
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Mass Effect Trilogy
Persona 5 Royal
Portal Collection
Red Dead Redemption 2
Resident Evil 2,3,7,8 Revelation 3
Street Fighter
Tactics Ogre Remaster
Tekken
Timesplitters
Tomb Raider Trilogy

Let's Go!!!
Alan Wake is confirmed for Switch! It's coming this fall.
 
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This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't really care if Nintendo says anything about Roe v. Wade. If they announce employee coverage I'd applaud it, but I think these video game companies coming out to say "we think women should have rights" without actually doing anything really undermines the seriousness of the issue.
 
So is Zelda, but Hyrule Warriors was in a Partner Showcase.


Why not? Part Time UFO and Hyrule Warriors appeared in the last Partner Showcase.
Warriors stuff is a bit more nebulous, since they're published by Koei in Japan. Sorta similar with Part Time UFO, which was initially developed and published by HAL on mobile.

Kirby, on the other hand, is completely 1st party. Definitely a different situation.
 
I can't wait to see the vibe in this thread do a total 180 when Silksong is dated in the Partner Mini.
 
Forget I ever mentioned the leakers. I get it. I literally only mentioned them because Glio was implying that there was literally no reason to expect a General Direct. I didn't say "blame them for the disappointment," (though, really, qualitative leaks seem like they'll never be worthwhile to me) or anything. Please.

I get it.


Thing is, though - I don't believe that all of Nintendo's supposed woes are due to the pandemic. We know that they sit on games for months, if not years, because they need to find an "opportune," time for them to release. They've consistently drip-fed NSO titles throughout the entire generation. Certain types of games from are consistently bereft of content no matter when they release.

Like, yeah, the pandemic's a big thing and it's hit a lot of things; but I'm tired of pretending like it's an excuse for, say, staying almost completely silent on BotW2 until what is liable to be the absolute minute. Or choosing to a Partner Direct with no Treehouse despite doing a full E3 Direct with Treehouse last year. Or taking 7 years to port a bunch of Mario Kart Tour tracks to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

When I say it's hard to be a Nintendo fan, it's because Nintendo doesn't seem like a company who wants 'fans' anymore. They seem like a company who just wants to put out their products, have people buy them, and then disappear into the ether until it's time for next product. They want to dictate exactly what their "product" is at all times; to dictate that we must have things in exactly the way they want them to be. That "we can't have TPHD because BotW2 is scheduled for Q2 2023, and it represents a 0.5% potential decrease to BotW2's profit potential." They don't let developers on stage at The Game Awards; they don't mingle with the wider industry at large in any real way; they have systematically kicked out any unique voices from their marketing.

I mean, they're the only one of the main three whose entire 'production group' has stayed completely, deafeningly silent on the Roe vs. Wade repeal. Not even their American teams - one of which is literally based in Texas - have said anything. I 100% wouldn't be surprised if they have a gag clause preventing any of their companies from saying anything 'political.' I know that that and silly game reveals aren't the same thing, but I think it's a really good indication of the soullessness and ruthless dedication to marketing efficiency that is corporate Nintendo. If it doesn't serve to help their carefully-crafted marketing plan it does not exist to them.

It's just so frustrating and so tiring.
The political side of Nintendo has to be especially shitty yeah looking at how they treat their contract workers and how people had to fight for the pride parade they organized. I am not gonna lie. I don't like the company.... I like their games and the developers pouring their heart into them. So yes... it feels really corporate like nowadays which really started to happen after Iwatas death imo.

Like I said I am not excusing their communication.
 
Is there a reason why people are talking about RDR2 when RDR exists? A Red Dead game that would actually be possible to run on the platform lol?
RDR's coding is a complete and total dumpster fire, that's why it hasn't been natively ported to other consoles or remastered yet.
 
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Yes. These things easily could have been in a General Direct. As was said back in 2020, the type of show is not given. Partners know they are in a Direct. That's it.

I said countless times I could not dismiss the possibility of a Mini/Partner back when the timing leaked. That was my official stance.
So, is Bayo 3 in or not?😭
 
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This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't really care if Nintendo says anything about Roe v. Wade. If they announce employee coverage I'd applaud it, but I think these video game companies coming out to say "we think women should have rights" without actually doing anything really undermines the seriousness of the issue.
Why should Nintendo say anything? They don’t say anything on any social issues
 
Could Silk Song show at a partner direct?
The legendary (and it was dammit) Partner Direct of September 2020 dropped both Hades and Ori WoTW, two indie titles with about as much pedigree as Silksong

So I'd say it's not impossible
 
This is not the news I wanted to wake up to after working a 22-hour day where I, the head of development at the studio, somehow got roped into running point on our wrap party's logistics, setup, and maintenance yesterday, which means that I didn't even get to enjoy it after all my hard work on this movie. Not feeling so great rn
Hope you can get some relief
 
I'm genuinely curious to find out what's in this Partner/Mini/Lieutenant Direct, what branding they go for and why.

2020 was weird in some ways because I think they could have easily had two relatively normal if somewhat middling Directs during their usual timeslots (June and September) with everything that was announced throughout the year (three Partner Directs, Mario anniversary Direct, Twitter drops).
Hopefully it's on the lengthier side, like the March 2020 Mini. 25 to 30 minutes is plenty of time to show a variety of games. I'm not expecting that much, currently, but it doesn't need to be a bad showing.

And, like 2020, yeah I'm agreed it would still be more effective to just go ahead and have a 45 minute showing here with the first party news. Something else is going on, for whatever reason.
 
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't really care if Nintendo says anything about Roe v. Wade. If they announce employee coverage I'd applaud it, but I think these video game companies coming out to say "we think women should have rights" without actually doing anything really undermines the seriousness of the issue.
Its not about them not saying anything.... its about their employees wanting to say something but they can't in an organzied way. Nintendo is always so proud of their quote of female staff but never says anything about any political issue. Really bad look. Its really dystopian in a way.

"we wanna bring smiles on every consumers face.....!" Guess employees dont count.
 
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Idk how you can look at this list of 2022 games:

Pokemon Legends Arceus
Kirby and the Forgotten Lands
Nintendo Switch Sports
Mario Strikers Battle League
Advance Wars 1+2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Splatoon 3
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Bayonotta 3
Pokemon Scarlett/Violet

.. and think they NEED a direct this summer. Nothing on the level of BotW2 or Odyssey but it's still far from a terrible lineup. We've had similar lineups in past years. September is in 2 months and we'll probably have more substantial updates then, including about 2023.
Triangle Strategy too
 
Yes. These things easily could have been in a General Direct. As was said back in 2020, the type of show is not given. Partners know they are in a Direct. That's it.

I said countless times I could not dismiss the possibility of a Mini/Partner back when the timing leaked. That was my official stance.
I seriously doubt you know it’s a partner no offense but with the 2020 fiasco I’m very skeptical of you
 
Idk how you can look at this list of 2022 games:

Pokemon Legends Arceus
Kirby and the Forgotten Lands
Nintendo Switch Sports
Mario Strikers Battle League
Advance Wars 1+2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Splatoon 3
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Bayonotta 3
Pokemon Scarlett/Violet

.. and think they NEED a direct this summer. Nothing on the level of BotW2 or Odyssey but it's still far from a terrible lineup. We've had similar lineups in past years. September is in 2 months and we'll probably have more substantial updates then, including about 2023.
If you compared it against the full line up for other years you'd see why it makes sense to expect further announcements.
 
List of interesting things that appeared in the partner showcases to show what parameters we may be dealing with

  • Monster Hunter Rise
  • Monster Hunter Stories 2
  • Cadence of Hyrule
  • Shin Megami Tensei V
  • No More Heroes III
  • Bravely Default II
  • Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity (second trailer + demo)

So we’ve got third party games exclusive to switch, third party games using nintendo IP, and third party developed games published by Nintendo
 
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It won't happen for 1,278 reasons, but what if the big 2018 that is getting announced for the Switch is God of War....

The reactions would be something else.
 
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