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Pre-Release Pokémon Scarlet and Violet — Pre-release Discussion Thread (UPDATE: new trailer, see threadmarks)

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Sorry in order to resolve people's complaints about the character design a sacrifice had to be made

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Oh shit where did you find their second stages

Looking forward to the final stage where one is jacked, one is curvy, and one is skinny. It's Pokelaw now, apparently.
 
As long as Megas never return, I'm cool with whatever
I really want Megas back. Or well the Mega Pokémon themselves to be part of that Pokémon regular evolution and not locked behind that mechanic.

So many Pokémon without evolutions had so many great evos that I want back like Mawile,
 
Near useless Pokemon like Mawhile and Absol being given dope new forms only for them to be thrown in the trash is so fucking frustrating

SInce Game Freak refuses to squeeze them as proper evolutions, they really should bring back Megas. At least for the Pokemon that needed them
 
I am also a Mega hater, on account of most of them being mad ugly

They should just give Mawile a normal evolution, like Ursaluna.
 
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Oh shit where did you find their second stages

Looking forward to the final stage where one is jacked, one is curvy, and one is skinny. It's Pokelaw now, apparently.
Look, don't say you heard it from me

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i just wanted to see quaxly on machamp and had to round out the set
 


Floette is back?

Since the new region is based on Spain, which directly borders southern France, which Kalos is based on…I’ve been wondering if these games will have strong ties to Kalos somehow…

Will Mega Evolution will be back?!

Was this new region the country that went to war with Kalos 3,000 years ago?!

Is Scarlet/Violet going to expand more on the lore surrounding AZ and this ancient war?!


Will Eternal Flower Floette FINALLY be made available officially after all these years?!
 
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Finally saw the trailer. It definitely doesn't look great, but it looks better than Legends. It also doesn't have that drab look that Legends has at points. Textures are crap. There's no depth to them. However, it is early.

I'm excited for the gameplay and pokemon. That's how it should be for Pokemon games really.
 
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Tbh if SV looks like crap, then crap looks really beautiful and shows that 3 years isn't affecting that part at all.
 
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Okay, so I think I was gone for either a day or two days now.

And I come with good tidings.

There is apparently a Pokémon Gen 9 game known as Pokémon Scarlet/Violet.




I know. Big if true.
 
For all the negativity I'm seeing online, my impression of Scarlet/Violet is honestly a positive one.

Visually, it's a significant step up over Gamefreak's previous Switch games, the move to a fully open world is nice, the setting is appealing, and Gamefreak is clearly listening to feedback as they haven't rested on their laurels and just made Sword and Shield 2.0.

There's clear progress on display and that's nice to see. :)
 
Okay.

I've gotten confirmation from my sources.

There is indeed a Gen. 9 Pokémon game(s) known as Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet.

Rejoice! Wonder when we'll get a trailer...

I'm sooooo glad that I'm in the loop about all of this.
 
For all the negativity I'm seeing online, my impression of Scarlet/Violet is honestly a positive one.

Visually, it's a significant step up over Gamefreak's previous Switch games, the move to a fully open world is nice, the setting is appealing, and Gamefreak is clearly listening to feedback as they haven't rested on their laurels and just made Sword and Shield 2.0.

There's clear progress on display and that's nice to see. :)
For all that parts of the internet like to rage about them, GF has basically proven the "lazy devs" rhetoric wrong several times over during the course of the Switch era.

And props to them for it, they could've easily stuck with safe entries that would've still sold gangbusters, but instead they've been putting out content at a ridiculous pace (probably too ridiculous, they can definitely stand to tone it down) while continuously iterating on their formula.
 
So....why do you think they didn't give us the name of the region?
Because marketing is the one thing GameFreak hasn't been iterating successfully on

Or rather, they've been iterating on it in the direction of keeping everything under wraps for longer
 
Because marketing is the one thing GameFreak hasn't been iterating successfully on

Or rather, they've been iterating on it in the direction of keeping everything under wraps for longer
GameFreak is also a genuinely bad and incompetent developer that rides their own success from before.

But I expect a good Pokémon game after Legends Arceus.
 
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Okay, so I think I was gone for either a day or two days now.

And I come with good tidings.

There is apparently a Pokémon Gen 9 game known as Pokémon Scarlet/Violet.




I know. Big if true.

looks fanmade. I've seen better fake mon. not to mention looks like some marketplace assets in UE4
 
looks fanmade. I've seen better fake mon. not to mention looks like some marketplace assets in UE4
Looks like a mod of that fan-made game Legends Arceus.

I mean, come on, actual devs can do better than this:

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Cautiously optimistic! Was hoping for a 2023 release with more time, but honestly it doesn't look too bad. A bit rough in some areas, but like Legends I suspect the frame rate will at least be fixed up. Legends was the first Pokemon game in a long time that I really enjoyed playing, and the first Switch entry I was fine spending $60 on. Hearing that this is going for a more seamless open approach than Legends makes me excited. Only starter I like is Fuecoco, and I don't care for the logos but that's a super minor thing lol.

Guess we'll probably be waiting until June again like SwSh, but I'm pretty hopeful overall. Just hope there's plenty of singleplayer content there for me to enjoy and I'll be good to go 🤞
 
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I really want Megas back. Or well the Mega Pokémon themselves to be part of that Pokémon regular evolution and not locked behind that mechanic.

So many Pokémon without evolutions had so many great evos that I want back like Mawile.
I would love for some mega designs to return as regular evolutions too, but they won't. If Megas return, will be as Megas, and other pokemon will get new forms that will be lost in that limbo, so I'd just rather rip that bandaid off now and never have them again.
 
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I wonder if there’s any chance we get DLC for Arceus next year along with Gen 9 DLC
 
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For all the negativity I'm seeing online, my impression of Scarlet/Violet is honestly a positive one.

Visually, it's a significant step up over Gamefreak's previous Switch games, the move to a fully open world is nice, the setting is appealing, and Gamefreak is clearly listening to feedback as they haven't rested on their laurels and just made Sword and Shield 2.0.

There's clear progress on display and that's nice to see. :)
Eh, posters rushing in to be the among first 800 people to say the trees look terrible and call GameFreak lazy and incompetent is just the usual online Pokemon discourse. It never actually matters. The reverse circlejerk is very irrelevant to how the market actually feels about Pokemon games.
 
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Me too. Arceus plays so fluid and is fun to play. If the new game is back to old battle mechanics and you have to battle each Pokemon to catch it, I will probably not try Scarlet/Violet.

I really hope the combat and catching Pokemon is like Arceus. I cannot go back to the stale old combat.

And yet, I got shit on the other day for pointing out that the way arceus is set up is that ending up in a battle at all is a negative outcome /fail state for the player.

These people get why ever making it an option was a bad idea, now they can't even fathom actually having to battle Pokémon and that the sheer idea of actually having to engage with the combat system for wild battles (which is typically most of the battles!) that underpins the entire series prior to Arceus is enough to make them not want to buy the game.
 
I'm seeing tons of Sprigatito art...and a certain Snoop Dogg meme associated with it.

That said I think I will go with the Grass type as I've been a Bulbasaur mainer too.
 
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When people say they don't want to go back to the old battle mechanics after Arceus do they mean how you get into battles, the seamless transition to fights, how catching works etc or do you also want strong/agile style and how turn order in PLA works to stay? Because the latter is never happening. I also don't think catching will be quite as painless and fast as in PLA either.
 
When people say they don't want to go back to the old battle mechanics after Arceus do they mean how you get into battles, the seamless transition to fights, how catching works etc or do you also want strong/agile style and how turn order in PLA works to stay? Because the latter is never happening. I also don't think catching will be quite as painless and fast as in PLA either.
I'm one of those people. I want the seamless transition back and how catching works. The strong/agile style and the messed up turn order can go for good - that was not thought through...
 
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There's this italian site that roughly stated: "Pokemon's official website talks about engaging fights with wild mons and THEN catch them. If someone still had doubts, this confirms that the catching style seen on PLA won't come back"

This is pure speculation right?
Cuz if I can catch them like in arceus i'm so in
 
Since Game Freak refuses to squeeze them as proper evolutions, they really should bring back Megas.
Ugh, I hate Megas and it’s either because they’re 1) shilling for already popular Pokemon (Charizard X hurts me because now we’re less likely to get a separate blue-fire dark dragon Pokemon) or 2) forms that should have been regular evolutions. It’s a crime that the fantastic Mega designs for Alakazam, Mawile and Abomasnow are locked behind Mega Evolution.

Gigantamax is bad too for similar reasons, but it affects me less because most of the Max designs are just kinda alright.
 
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There's this italian site that roughly stated: "Pokemon's official website talks about engaging fights with wild mons and THEN catch them. If someone still had doubts, this confirms that the catching style seen on PLA won't come back"

This is pure speculation right?
Cuz if I can catch them like in arceus i'm so in
which one, if I may ask?

EDIT: Ok, the italian website does in fact states what this site report, but I think is pure speculation at this point, thus a reasonable one.
 
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which one, if I may ask?
Not sure if I can post links (Multiplayer btw)
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Le informazioni ufficiali si fermano qui, ma possiamo permetterci un piccolo appunto sul sistema di combattimento, che sarà quello dei capitoli classici, tanto per statistiche, quanto per meccaniche. Il sito ufficiale parla di "essenza dei giochi della serie Pokémon", dove affrontare "i Pokémon selvatici nelle lotte per poi catturarli": se qualcuno aveva dei dubbi sulla presenza di un sistema in stile Leggende Pokémon: Arceus, questa semplice frase dovrebbe dissiparli in maniera piuttosto definitiva.
 
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