lmao I thought they were an Italian dev, but they're actually Japanese xDArtePiazza.
This is great news because not only does SMRPG look great, it also means that everyone's top suspects for who was developing this (Grezzo, NDCube) must be working on other projects!ArtePiazza.
I guess that depends on how you define top suspects. NDCube was always fanciful given this type of game is far outside their wheelhouse.This is great news because not only does SMRPG look great, it also means that everyone's top suspects for who was developing this (Grezzo, NDCube) must be working on other projects!
I thought about ArtePiazza multiple times since announcement, but SMRPG just looked a bit higher budget than the stuff they've been making recently, so I just brushed them off.ArtePiazza is pretty obvious in hindsight, lol
On the other hand, I wonder if this is a litmus test of sorts. If this SMRPG remake does well, then perhaps SE and Nintendo now have a designated team to make more and new like it.The idea that a company behind tons of dragon quest remakes would be behind SMRPG remake makes a lot of sense. Kinda makes me think this is going to be a one off remake and nothing more, which honestly I’m okay with that considering I never even thought this was exist to begin with
No think bigger, Metal King GoombaClearly this means that the game's extra super secret hidden boss will be Metal King Slime
It's crazy that it achieved probably 1080p 60fps when docked, with better graphics than Pokemon BD/SP created with the same Unity.ArtePiazza.
I went with TOSE for the longest.It was always ridiculous people latched onto studios like NDCube because of the UI aesthetic, of all things.
BD/SP only had like a year in development. So it's not really Unity's fault to begin with.It's crazy that it achieved probably 1080p 60fps when docked, with better graphics than Pokemon BD/SP created with the same Unity.
I expected it to be the NintendoWare Bezel Engine used in Mario Party.
I certainly hope the ArtePiazza remake isn’t the only thing we get SMRPG related for them. Hopefully they make a sequel, and it’d be in Nintendo’s best interest to keep churning Mario content, what with the sequel to the Mario movie probably coming in three+ years
if this is a test, I'm gonna bet that SE won't have anything to do with a SMRPG2. maybe if Nintendo wants to bring Geno and Mallow back, but I can see Nintendo ditching them as far as importance goesOn the other hand, I wonder if this is a litmus test of sorts. If this SMRPG remake does well, then perhaps SE and Nintendo now have a designated team to make more and new like it.
After all, among other things, they may not be so needed for their older role with the DQ series, now that DQ3-HD provides a possibility for what the next wave of DQ game remakes will look like.
They could give it to Intelligent Systems and focus on a unique art style, maybe something like paper.if this is a test, I'm gonna bet that SE won't have anything to do with a SMRPG2. maybe if Nintendo wants to bring Geno and Mallow back, but I can see Nintendo ditching them as far as importance goes
What if they combined the RPG and paper series together? Paper Mario was originally Mario RPG 2 after allThey could give it to Intelligent Systems and focus on a unique art style, maybe something like paper.
Can we all please stop pretending that every remake is a dress rehearsal for the developer to become the new home of a franchise and will start churning out sequels?I certainly hope the ArtePiazza remake isn’t the only thing we get SMRPG related for them. Hopefully they make a sequel, and it’d be in Nintendo’s best interest to keep churning Mario content, what with the sequel to the Mario movie probably coming in three+ years
Advanced wars just came out, how would you know if we won’t get a continuation? And why would they even remake this game over the countless other Nintendo RPG’s if they didn’t have any potential plans for it in the future? I’m not saying this game is 100% getting a sequel or anything, but if the remake seels well why would they not make moreCan we all please stop pretending that every remake is a dress rehearsal for the developer to become the new home of a franchise and will start churning out sequels?
It wasn't the case for WayForward and Advance Wars, it's not the case for ArtePiazza and SMRPG.
1. WayForward moved on to other projects after work on AW wrapped before its extensive delay, Re-Boot Camp wasn't given a worldwide release, and the recent sales figures suggest Nintendo had either very limited expectations for it, or it tanked.Advanced wars just came out, how would you know if we won’t get a continuation? And why would they even remake this game over the countless other Nintendo RPG’s if they didn’t have any potential plans for it in the future? I’m not saying this game is 100% getting a sequel or anything, but if the remake seeks well why would they not make more
1. WayForward moved on to other projects after work on AW wrapped before its extensive delay, Re-Boot Camp wasn't given a worldwide release, and the recent sales figures suggest Nintendo had either very limited expectations for it, or it tanked.
2. Super Mario RPG is a remake of a 25+ year old game that a lot of people have nostalgia for, but didn't receive a worldwide release in its day. That's enough reason to remake it as a one-off project. Further, people involved in the creation of SMRPG on the SNES already went on to make the Mario & Luigi RPG series, which eventually ran itself into the ground.
if IS started make real Paper Mario games after the TTYD remake that'd work.if this is a test, I'm gonna bet that SE won't have anything to do with a SMRPG2. maybe if Nintendo wants to bring Geno and Mallow back, but I can see Nintendo ditching them as far as importance goes
if IS started make real Paper Mario games after the TTYD remake that'd work.
tok is a shadow of a paper mario game, even metacritic agrees all the modern sticker star games are worse than prior entries.Boy, it never stops with the hot takes with you.
They've already got a "real" paper mario game on switch, and it's great. It's stuff like this that makes me think things like having anticipation for the day if it so happens that Origami kings sales are more than TTYD.
They've already got a "real" paper mario game on switch, and it's great. It's stuff like this that makes me think things like having anticipation for the day if it so happens that Origami kings sales are more than TTYD.
tok is a shadow of a paper mario game, even metacritic agrees all the modern sticker star games are worse than prior entries.
Hopefully the sales of the SMRPG remake and TTYD are enough to convince Nintendo there's a need for a Mario RPG series.
Would you both stop bring "real" Paper Mario discourse in here?How is this anyone else's fault but your own? People are allowed not to like TOK. Deal with it.
Why would you not continue to work with SE/Artepiazza if the remake does well? Having 3rd parties make exclusives for you frees up your internal teams to work on other projects.if this is a test, I'm gonna bet that SE won't have anything to do with a SMRPG2. maybe if Nintendo wants to bring Geno and Mallow back, but I can see Nintendo ditching them as far as importance goes
Would you both stop bring "real" Paper Mario discourse in here?
It also means more games to churn out. If Nintendo internally can make, hypothetically, three games, Arte can add another oneWhy would you not continue to work with SE/Artepiazza if the remake does well? Having 3rd parties make exclusives for you frees up your internal teams to work on other projects.
ArtePiazza, sure. that's not the part I'm getting at. it's SE's connection. they're only here because all the OG characters are owned by SE. but we also know they're not needed to sell a Mario rpg. if there's anything to take from this game's inevitable success, it's that people still like traditional-ass Mario rpg, not "SE is a major aspect in selling the game"Why would you not continue to work with SE/Artepiazza if the remake does well? Having 3rd parties make exclusives for you frees up your internal teams to work on other projects.
I'd wait a bit for WayForward (Re-Boot Camp was released less than a year ago!), but I agree with your general sentiment -- especially since the ArtePiazza guys have only done (great) remakes.Can we all please stop pretending that every remake is a dress rehearsal for the developer to become the new home of a franchise and will start churning out sequels?
It wasn't the case for WayForward and Advance Wars, it's not the case for ArtePiazza and SMRPG.
I'd add:I do not understand the tone the thread is taking. Let’s all agree to disagree. Paper Mario stopped being what 64/TTYD were with Super. I’ve come to terms with that and have enjoyed Super, Sticker Star, Color Splash and Origami King.
Would I like a new Paper Mario game to take after 64/TTYD? Yes.
Will that happen?
I dunno.
Will I support next Paper Mario?
Depends if I like it.
It’s my personal belief that, with each passing Paper Mario game, the devs are somewhat closing in on the more older games. Color Splash and Origami felt like steps in the right direction.
I’m veeery excited for the TTYD Remake.
Does that mean that Intelligent System will base the newer games more on TTYD?
No necessarily, but it could happen.
Already, you could say that Origami is an extrapolated TTYD, with a battle mechanic change and elements from SS/CS
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It also means more games to churn out. If Nintendo internally can make, hypothetically, three games, Arte can add another one
once Paper Mario gets involved, it all goes to shitthread got suddenly toxic out of nowhere lol. I do wonder what a Mario RPG sequel would look like in this day and age
There's no reason to scorn SE here though. Working with them is clearly a positive for both companies as we've seen with quiet a few titles like Octopath Traveler and Live A Live. It would be like not working with Ubisoft off the success of the first Mario + Rabbids title since "Nintendo can make their own Mario strategy rpg without Ubisoft". Who knows what kind of cool things could happen if SE and Nintendo pooled together for a true Super Mario RPG 2.ArtePiazza, sure. that's not the part I'm getting at. it's SE's connection. they're only here because all the OG characters are owned by SE. but we also know they're not needed to sell a Mario rpg. if there's anything to take from this game's inevitable success, it's that people still like traditional-ass Mario rpg, not "SE is a major aspect in selling the game"
Games now available for preload (as in like, it's a week from release, so the game will actually download), and it looks like that means people can now check the intellection property information page from the home menualso how was this discovered btw? Did the game leak or something?