Officially speaking, nobody knows the capabilities of T239's Optical Flow Accelerator (OFA).
I'm not as optimistic as you are, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that the new technology will definitely not support Ampere either
That is not quite true, Switch is the dominant platform in Japan but the vast majority of the projects from the Japanese third party are still specced for PS4 and PS5 respectively. Until further support, this doesn't seem likely to change in the short to medium term for Switch 2. As well, Nvidia has no obligation to keep supporting Switch 2 in any real way directly, they're providing the API and chip but it's not doing anything that the desktop Ampere architecture isn't already doing, if we didn't see frame gen due to the lack of an 40 series OFA, we likely won't see the rest of it (barring upscaler improvements which will arrive to all architectures regardless).
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IMHO very few Swtich games would even need it. Talking about games made for Switch, not downports.
At the end of the day, people will see the results on the screen rather than the tech behind it. Nintendo can have all the latest technology and still look like Uncharted 4 or Last of Us. That won't make the system any less impressive to people
The same amount of work as DLSS
That is a clear answer. Thank you.
If that screenshot is not taking when in motion, then I suggest you take one when in motion. It's easy for DLSS to work on what amounts to a freeze-frame with its slightly jitter to accumulate good results. Also, the purpose of DLSS is to obtain a higher frame rate. As mentioned before, DLSS is a temporal upscaler, using the set of previous frames to construct the current frame. At lower frame rates, the changes between frames are larger, and results won't be as good. In the case you presented, if 1440p30 is obtained from 720p30, but 540p60 can be had, then use that instead, and upscale to 1440p60. It's certainly a bigger jump in resolution, but the changes between frames will be lessened, allowing the construction of the upscale to be more accurate.
Works great, no artifacts or tearing visible when steering, you still see flickering mainly on some of the high frequency textures, nothing else is a problem.
I mean, neither Uncharted4 nor TLOU2 have ray tracing.But I personally believe that first party games on switch2 will indeed reach the amount of geometry found in TLOU2.
Ray tracing raises the ceiling, but doesn't automatically make the floor higher.
Why was the question about "Nintendo Switch" not "Nintendo console in general" though...
Why are you telling people which games they can use in their hypotheticals of Switch 2 level games? That's such a weird thing to do. You are aware a decent amount of PS4 games will probably get ported to the system, right? It's totally valid since many people would still consider a lot of PS4 games good looking.
The games from the end of the 8th generation look okay, however it's also true that they lacked the standards of more modern graphical technology.
They're just saying it's a low bar, a rather low one at that. High end PS4 games are much more representative.
It's important to note that many of the titles from the end of the eighth generation, i.e. after 2019, to the pre-ninth generation, i.e. before roughly 2023, are actually cross-generational in nature, and again, they can be thought of as high-end eighth-generation games.
All that information really says its that the Orin OFA is driver compatible with the Drake OFA. That doesn't mean they are exactly the same.
Best case scenario is the same resolution, or perhaps better - Not a false hope because there are a host of variables to consider. We don’t know what version of UE5 each version showcased. We don’t know if other versions were showed natively, BUT we might presume they were because the AMD-powered systems preferred to showcase raw power, and that’s been on brand for PS/XBox. None of those have dedicated hardware on chip, so, they’re taxing their CPUs and GPUs harder to get the results they’re getting, and that’s why the extra grunt is needed for them. S2NS has the more modern architecture as well as dedicated hardware on chip, making it more versatile, so, it has at least three significant hardware-specific advantages over PS5/XSS/XSX (there are more…). Now, the word in those Gamescom reports was “comparable”, so, your mileage may vary, but at a surface level, that could mean anything from a little less (let’s say 720p or 900p at a similar frame rate), to near 1-for-1 parity ((Dynamic) 1080p with a similar frame rate), to better (higher resolution and more stable frame rate). That’s without accounting for the consensus view that Nvidia RT is better than AMD’s RT. In the best case scenario, one might imagine that the use of DLSS played a role to get better results, if not just “comparable” - In that regard, I don’t think we can underestimate the disruptive potential of S2NS, and that’s why I’ve been saying that “smarter engineering, NOT raw power will ultimately prevail”.
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Very disputable, IMO, as that’s not an RT card, and I come back to the point that RT would not be on chip if there was no intention to use it.
considering this was about Alan Wake 2, it's important to note that AW2 on consoles don't use HW RT. or much RT at all. it's tracing SDF for low quality reflections on console (and seemingly none on Series S)
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Presentation | SIGGRAPH 2024
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at Siggraph later this month, a team from Nanjing University will present a ML-based upscaler. the trailer shows off a 16x (270p > 1080p) upscale
Yes, though none of them super interesting. To summarize:
This.Regarding how Nintendo is pricing the switch2 in Japan, due to the depreciating yen, it's possible they'll bring Japanese pricing closer to North America, if North America is $449, Japanese pricing could be lower but close to that.
Presentation | SIGGRAPH 2024
The Premier Conference & Exhibition on Computer Graphics & Interactive Techniques. 51 years of SIGGRAPH and join us in Denver or online starting 28 July.
at Siggraph later this month, a team from Nanjing University will present a ML-based upscaler. the trailer shows off a 16x (270p > 1080p) upscale
Great point...like the 2 examples I have in mind when a point like this is made is The Last of Us II and Red Dead Redemption 2...
That and let's remember that the Playstation 4 gave us games that look like this. If you told me this was a game released this past year on the PS5 and not on a console eight years ago, I'd believe you.
Even if the Switch 2 really was only as good as a Playstation 4, I don't think anyone can bemoan the power of a PS4 portably in your hands - and we know we're getting effectively a PS4 at minimum.
This is why I say things like "this is the final frontier". On some level, it doesn't matter how good the Switch 2 is compared to a PS4, PS4 Pro, or Xbox Series S. It's going to be capable of pulling this off and without lots of duct tape and glue like Mortal Kombat was on the current Switch.
Once you get to this level, there really isn't anywhere left to go. Sony and Microsoft have been here for a long while, but Nintendo is finally joining the party. Whether we see games mostly in 2k or 4k (I'm betting the former), or if Nathan Drake is missing a few polygons in his hair, I'm hyped to see what Nintendo does with their 9th gen console because where is there really left to go from here?
That and let's remember that the Playstation 4 gave us games that look like this. If you told me this was a game released this past year on the PS5 and not on a console eight years ago, I'd believe you.
Even if the Switch 2 really was only as good as a Playstation 4, I don't think anyone can bemoan the power of a PS4 portably in your hands - and we know we're getting effectively a PS4 at minimum.
This is why I say things like "this is the final frontier". On some level, it doesn't matter how good the Switch 2 is compared to a PS4, PS4 Pro, or Xbox Series S. It's going to be capable of pulling this off and without lots of duct tape and glue like Mortal Kombat was on the current Switch.
Once you get to this level, there really isn't anywhere left to go. Sony and Microsoft have been here for a long while, but Nintendo is finally joining the party. Whether we see games mostly in 2k or 4k (I'm betting the former), or if Nathan Drake is missing a few polygons in his hair, I'm hyped to see what Nintendo does with their 9th gen console because where is there really left to go from here?
You guys talking about Ps4 like it's good be that kind of power. But, the truth is that it's not.
the PS4 can't achieve that because it's lacking in CPU power and features. not so much raw gpu strength. the point of the Uncharted comparisons is that setting the minimums in aesthetic, not what how much better Drake can theoretically look.
posts like this really put into perspective for me how good we're gonna be eating with this device in terms of visuals alone. the wait and sparse communication from nintendo has made me admittedly very cynical as time has gone on, but through and through i am really excited to see what nintendo's incredibly talented artists and developers do with this monumental bump in power.
It reportedly happened at a closed door event at Gamescom. Multiple sources corroborated it, but it was not confirmed by Nintendo or Epic (obviously).
I would personally say it’s pretty much confirmed, since how many people collaborated.
This is a pure fan theory, but I would say that there's at least a possibility Epic had a hand in convincing Nvidia/ Nintendo to integrate the FDE in Drake.
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so are you implying/sugesting the next 3D Mario could have a visual quality similar to Ratchet e Clank(2016)? is this real?is difficult to imagine Nintendo putting games with this such quality, they rely on cartoony stylized art style for most of it franchises, Metroid maybe, since is more of a stylized realism.
That and let's remember that the Playstation 4 gave us games that look like this. If you told me this was a game released this past year on the PS5 and not on a console eight years ago, I'd believe you.
Even if the Switch 2 really was only as good as a Playstation 4, I don't think anyone can bemoan the power of a PS4 portably in your hands - and we know we're getting effectively a PS4 at minimum.
This is why I say things like "this is the final frontier". On some level, it doesn't matter how good the Switch 2 is compared to a PS4, PS4 Pro, or Xbox Series S. It's going to be capable of pulling this off and without lots of duct tape and glue like Mortal Kombat was on the current Switch.
Once you get to this level, there really isn't anywhere left to go. Sony and Microsoft have been here for a long while, but Nintendo is finally joining the party. Whether we see games mostly in 2k or 4k (I'm betting the former), or if Nathan Drake is missing a few polygons in his hair, I'm hyped to see what Nintendo does with their 9th gen console because where is there really left to go from here?
will Switch successor struggle, if a PS6 game is ported to the console? or not.
Visual quality? Yes, probably even better. Artstyle maybe not.
It doesn’t really make sense to compare the Switch 2 with a console we know nothing about that’s still years off
