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StarTopic Nintendo General Discussion |ST3 Dec. 2021| Topical Threes

When Should Raccoon’s New Nintendo Direct Speculation Thread Launch?

  • Monday, Dec. 27 • 12pm EST

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Leo said:
I love how, intentionally or not, the Fami snow falling varies in speed. Right now it's a damn blizzard for me lol
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I've noticed the speed and direction changes based on where my mouse cursor is on the screen. If it's right in the middle then it's a slow fall in the middle. If it's all the way to the right or left then it's way faster. Not sure about phones (if it's even on phones).
 
Dopply said:
If you tab away from the snow, it should freeze in place so that the script isn't running idly in the background. The effect is pretty CPU heavy so these sorts of things are taken into account.
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ah, fool that I am I did not

The lid was closed so it should have gone to sleep, but maybe something in my battery preferences was a little amiss. when I opened the snow was still on and present like it hadn’t stopped at any point

oh I probably did something weird with network access – I set up remote desktop to access my old computer last night and my computer is set to “wake for network access” when charging
 
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I’ve updated the “wtf actually happened” section of the OP again to report that nothing happened at the Game Awards

I would like to take a moment to reiterate something:

Suswave said:
brain mitzvah
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that is all, carry on
 
Here's a silly question, why can't you use Mii characters in Mario Party Superstars? Was it an arbitrary design choice or actual technical issue? Couldn't you use them in the other games without breaking compatibility in the minigames?
 
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Anyone has the Switch trailers at the game award? The Indie Showcase trailer,the "available now" trailer and the "coming 2022" trailer?
 
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Renmazuo said:
My thoughts are starting to go in this direction, particularly for xenoblade. Assuming everything we've heard from insiders is true, how is it possible that a game whose development has supposedly gone smoothly, could be delayed by a whole year, minimum? Are they saving it for a hardware revision or something? Either that or the smooth development thing is just straight up false, or it was never meant for this year at all, or something. Something has to give.
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But was the report that development was going smoothly? I mean...

This is what Imran wrote: "but has had a difficult time with pandemic development and optimizing the game for the Switch. The game is aiming for more character models on screen at once than any previous title, accounting for both playable characters and enemies."

(Source: https://www.fanbyte.com/news/xenoblade-new-game-true/ )

Doesn't sound "smooth" as far as I am concerned. We have to remember Covid hit Japanese devs harder than most because home office basically wasn't a thing there prior to the pandemic. They had to built the infrastructure for it from scratch.

Now, I am not 100% convinced a Dane will be coming in 2023 because chip shortages and everything. And if it does, it will be a hardware revision but nothing that has exclusive first party games for a while. We have been hearing about this thing and/or a Switch Pro for so long now, but literally nothing happened, I am not believing anything about it before I see it or Nintendo admits it.

That's part of the reason I honestly think the game just got delayed because covid and optimization. Maybe it is finished by now but once a game is off its original release schedule, you don't just willy-nilly put it out there just because you can, you always have to find the right timing for it in relation to all other games. And as such, it hasn't happened yet. That's regardless of new hardware or not.
 
Remember February 2019 Direct? Started with Maker 2, updates on existing games, ASTRAL CHAIN and Link's Awakening revealed at the end. If anything next Direct could start with Xeno 3 and end with next 3D Mario or something, or finally a game from EPD9 who knows. But it would be interesting to see if Mario will be holiday title (alongside the movie). 3D Mario could be September and Zelda mid November release.
 
Jafin said:
I've noticed the speed and direction changes based on where my mouse cursor is on the screen. If it's right in the middle then it's a slow fall in the middle. If it's all the way to the right or left then it's way faster. Not sure about phones (if it's even on phones).
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Can confirm this also happens on phones.
 
Amadeus said:
Tbh, I don't think 2022 Fire Emblem is a thing and I guess Xenoblade 3 will be a March 2023 game.
This lineup is already complete:
Pokémon Legends Arceus + DLC
Triangle Strategy (West)
Advance wars
Casual game
Kirby
Mario + Rabbids
Splatoon 3
Monster Hunter DLC (which would take the summer slot)
Metroid Prime HD
Bayonetta 3
Breath of the Wild 2

Fill it more with third party games and the year is already pretty stacked. Why would Nintendo release ALL of its big games in a single year and have nothing for 2023.

Even with what we already know we have the chance to experience one of the best year on the system, we shouldn't be too greedy.
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There is just one thing that doesn't add up here: Why would they announce almost all of these already then? What are they gonna announce next year? The early 2023 games won't be a topic until at least the September Direct, unless it's huge projects like BOTW2, those will probably hit E3.

So if we go by your list the only games that remain unannounced for 2022 would be the Prime Remake and what you labeled as Casual Game. If so, that's weird ass pacing for your announcements...
 
Wouldn’t feel 100% strange that 2022 and 2023 first party lineups feel “stacked”. It was just a consequence of not so amazing 2020 and 2021 years.

Enjoy future nintendo games
 
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Brofield said:
Maybe they'll do some localization and bring them over to the West like they did with Sin & Punishment 🙃 That worked out for them last time when trying to reintroduce an existing IP, right???


That NerdStreamFillRatio reads so funny to me as if they took the whining of Twitter's conscious and shoved it into the N64 emulator out of spite instead of fixing the fog lmao


Everything after italicized I read with the same syllables as Psycho Killer and now that's stuck in my head.

I did this to myself, but I still marginally blame you for using those eight words in that order 😋
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As much as I’d love to see that with custom Robo, I’m pretty sure one of those games alone has more text than most of Nintendos first party English n64 releases combined
 
LoneRanger said:
Wouldn’t feel 100% strange that 2022 and 2023 first party lineups feel “stacked”. It was just a consequence of not so amazing 2020 and 2021 years.

Enjoy future nintendo games
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It will also likely be the case that the number of Nintendo games released in each of those years is pretty similar; 2022 will just have more of the types of games that excite the online community and the games media.
 
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Is there a Gaming equivalent of the Razzies?

Not that I think this gaming hobby needs any more toxicity heaped onto it(and boy if something like this exists I bet it's TOXIC)... just curious.
 
Renmazuo said:
Frankly I didn't even remember what he said beyond plot details but this is what Emily had to say about it




Like I said, something has to give
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In my books "smoother than X" doesn't necessarily mean smooth. I mean development of FF7 Remake went "smoother" than the development of FF15. Yet it also had to re-start development once at one point, so it was probably far from smooth.

The game was delayed, so that in and of itself already shows there was some kind of issue, either with the game itself or because of covid. Otherwise it wouldn't have been delayed.

Alas, we will see sooner or later.
 
E.Gadd said:
Is there a Gaming equivalent of the Razzies?

Not that I think this gaming hobby needs any more toxicity heaped onto it(and boy if something like this exists I bet it's TOXIC)... just curious.
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Isn't that just the other 364 days of the year? 😎👉👉

But for serious I think that would require a fair amount of hyberbole being removed from the discourse to actually sus out what's the worst, and something tells me what capital-G Gamers find atrocious isn't exactly inline with the rest of the gaming population.
 
One reason 2022 is shaping up the way it is, is because of so many delays:

  • Splatoon 3 was originally targeting 2021 according to Imran
  • Xenoblade Chronicles 3 was also a 2021 release at one point
  • Bayonetta 3: who knows what the original release date was?
  • Zelda: see above
  • Advance Wars was also intended to launch in 2021

It'll also be the case that projects that once were intended for 2022 are also behind the original schedule. Similarly, some 2021 titles were likely subject to delays - Famicom Detective Club was officially delayed from 2020 to 2021, and I think, if I remember rightly, Metroid Dread was also targeting 2020 at some point (though that was obviously never official).

Maybe 2022 ends up unusually stacked, or the concentration of titles favours the types of software that excites vocal fans and the media; but that wasn't exactly plan A. Things are going the way they are because of unprecedented disruption.
 
Jannyish said:
In my books "smoother than X" doesn't necessarily mean smooth. I mean development of FF7 Remake went "smoother" than the development of FF15. Yet it also had to re-start development once at one point, so it was probably far from smooth.

The game was delayed, so that in and of itself already shows there was some kind of issue, either with the game itself or because of covid. Otherwise it wouldn't have been delayed.

Alas, we will see sooner or later.
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Well she said "development went much, much, smoother" and even wrote in past tense as if development was already done, you would think if the development were fucked she would have at least remarked that.

For the record I agree with you that it's more likely the game simply got delayed and that's it and that Emily's info was wrong.
 
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Brofield said:
Isn't that just the other 364 days of the year? 😎👉👉
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God yes lol :ROFLMAO:

Brofield said:
But for serious I think that would require a fair amount of hyberbole being removed from the discourse to actually sus out what's the worst, and something tells me what capital-G Gamers find atrocious isn't exactly inline with the rest of the gaming population.
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Yeah, this would definitely never work.
 
After catching up on threads here.

Nintendo, since the start of TGA, has never revealed any new 1st games for TGA. The last few years it’s been 3rd party exclusives and even then, only Bayo was given a huge spot light, granted it was also the reveal of the Bayo 1&2 for switch port.

I’ve seen many point to the Geoff and Reggie friendship. Which I’m sure helped, but it’s obvious that Japan runs the shows, when BOTW and Mario was shown off, it was Miyamoto and Anouma making appearances. In the Wii U era, they needed all the attention they could get, and did a bit more, and switch 1st year was the only time Nintendo made a huge appearance from
—BOTW staff accepting awards.
—Anouma sword dancing on stage.
—Koizumi making an appearance
—Bayo 1-3 for Switch.

Then. Switch started going places and TGA became something that Nintendo took a step back. Here’s what Reggie last years were for TGA before retirement

2018
-Joker reveal, a reveal that was planned to be at the game awards according to Sakurai interviews. Don’t think this was a Reggie getting it done honestly. Sakurai said that Nintendo asked him that they wanted to reveal that Joker was in development and at TGA which happen to be on the day Smash released or it was the day prior but it released digitally during the show was on.

2019
-BD2
-No More Heroes 3

And Three Houses won Fan Game of the year. After being snub according to lot of folks it had a 89 meta score and higher then some nominees lol. Which is why the Forza stuff this year was kinda funny. Like
It’s happen before why did everyone get mad this year lol

That’s it. 2 3rd party titles that is difficult to say if it was Nintendo’s call or Their respective devs. I would Nintendo had to have some hand in it but I couldn’t find anything. But I recall these 2 games being shown of in the pre-show or super early. After that Nintendo has nothing else. Smash was nominated for GOTY but Sakurai did not attend.

2020 (After Reggies retirement)

-the show kicked off with the biggest, well most talked about would be a better fit, announcement with Sephiroth for Smash. A character who was going to release that same month.
-Ghost & Goblins and Capcom arcade.


So all and all. I can’t say it’s really the Reggies and Geoff relationship that pushed Nintendo reveals or whatnot. I think Nintendo just isn’t really interested in showing their stuff here unless
It was smash, which, you have to admit, are the type of things you wanna show off to the folks who watch TGAs lol.

That’s my 2 cents. What y’all think?
 
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I can't believe it needs to be highlighted again but folks, there was a fucking pandemic in 2020. The pandemic is still going on. I would think the stories coming out of DICE, 343, etc. would tell you how disruptive the pandemic has been for game development. Because you all didn't get a Xenoblade 3 trailer at fucking Game Awards of all places is not an indication that there are development problems or that it's secretly being held back for a 4K Switch. Development can be "going smoothly" in that there is nothing fundamental flawed or broken with the game. It could mean that the team isn't crunched by Nintendo to make up for lost time. Development can be going relatively smoothly while still being affected by the pandemic. Even if a game wasn't impacted, there is a domino affect of other games getting delayed. If a 2020 planned game gets pushed to 2021, it likely to the spot in the schedule that was meant for another game. So that other game then gets pushed into a later spot which pushes other games out and so forth.

Frankly, gamers assuming the worst in development simply because aren't getting new info shoved up their assholes every few weeks has been a problem for years. There has been an assumption that if a game isn't frequently shown or a new trailer doesn't show up when internet nerds expect it to, then that game must be in development hell without evidence to support that conclusion. You're projecting that you see in the horror stories that came out of things like Anthem but I remind that Anthem's developments problems were revealed because of extensive reporting and testimonials by actual employees. Not getting trailer at TGAs is not equivalent to that. Game development is a difficult task and no game is without its development issues, setbacks, and obstacles. But until it is reported otherwise, I don't think it's fair to always assume each and every game is in development hell because of....whatever dumb reason you came up with a 3am in the morning. Maybe, just maybe the teams behind these games are just working hard make sure the final product is as good as it can be and things will be shown when they are ready.
 
Jannyish said:
There is just one thing that doesn't add up here: Why would they announce almost all of these already then? What are they gonna announce next year? The early 2023 games won't be a topic until at least the September Direct, unless it's huge projects like BOTW2, those will probably hit E3.

So if we go by your list the only games that remain unannounced for 2022 would be the Prime Remake and what you labeled as Casual Game. If so, that's weird ass pacing for your announcements...
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Splatoon 3 was announced in the February direct and it will release in 2022. Legends Arceus was announced in February for a January 2022 release. They don't have to wait for the September direct to announce 2023 games.

Bayonetta 3, Advance Wars, Kirby, BOTW2, Mario + Rabbids only get 1 trailer so they need time in the upcoming directs.
Sure, they will announce 2022 games like the casual game Emily leaked, Metroid Prime HD and maybe a Mario related game to celebrate the movie release plus some eshop games etc
The year is already full of big budget Nintendo games so I wonder why they would reveal even more games like Xenoblade 3 for 2022 for exemple.

But people can believe in what they want and I'm nobody to say what is the truth or not. I will mostly be in the false myself ahah. It's just that Nintendo make me more and more cautious when it comes to announcements and if the Dane is an early 2023 hardware then they will save games for it.
 
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Mandos said:
Yeah they had full rpg story modes like the gamecube one, maybe even a bit deeper
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Knowledge is a curse, pain knowing what I'm potentially missing out on when I can't read a lick of Japanese.

Hell I'm embarassed to admit that I only learned the β in German is a substitute for 'ss' and not a fancy B sound

(site devs, can we get a cursive font option for posts? I need me some Edwardian Script)
 
I heard their was an indie world sizzle reel at the Game Awards? We expecting that’s all we are getting in terms of indie presentations from Nintendo this month then?
 
MisterSpo said:
One reason 2022 is shaping up the way it is, is because of so many delays:

  • Splatoon 3 was originally targeting 2021 according to Imran
  • Xenoblade Chronicles 3 was also a 2021 release at one point
  • Bayonetta 3: who knows what the original release date was?
  • Zelda: see above
  • Advance Wars was also intended to launch in 2021

It'll also be the case that projects that once were intended for 2022 are also behind the original schedule. Similarly, some 2021 titles were likely subject to delays - Famicom Detective Club was officially delayed from 2020 to 2021, and I think, if I remember rightly, Metroid Dread was also targeting 2020 at some point (though that was obviously never official).

Maybe 2022 ends up unusually stacked, or the concentration of titles favours the types of software that excites vocal fans and the media; but that wasn't exactly plan A. Things are going the way they are because of unprecedented disruption.
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Just to add to this: Nate also said that Splatoon 3 was targeting 2021 release date with reveal in 2020.
 
shoptroll said:
Finally caught up on TGA trailers. With Kirby and Sonic seeming to be going open-world I feel safe in saying BotW is the new Super Mario 64
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Botw is the new Ocarina too, that game pretty much influenced most of the action adventure games going forward
 
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Amadeus said:
Is Kirby open world though ? It looks more like 3D World than odyssey to me
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This seems the most accurate. Think maybe more open than 3DW but definitely more than than an Ody situation. Granted we've not seen a ton of it so who really knows.

Remember what we knew about Ody with only 1 trailer?
 
wookiee said:
This seems the most accurate. Think maybe more open than 3DW but definitely more than than an Ody situation. Granted we've not seen a ton of it so who really knows.

Remember what we knew about Ody with only 1 trailer?
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What you are trying to say is:

Kirby and the Forgotten Land is an auto-runner.
 
I wonder if Kirby will be playable in coop.
Even if the setting looks interestin I hope we'll have some cool and different worlds. Star Allies has a lot of different levels even if its level design is quite simple.
 
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