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Pre-Release The Super Mario Bros. Movie Pre-Release Discussion Thread (Now releasing April 5th in the US)

Final Worldwide Box Office Predictions

  • Less than $300 million (Absolute Flop)

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • $300-450 million (in line with other video game adaptations)

    Votes: 4 3.2%

  • $450-700 million (best video game adaptation, in line with other recent animated films)

    Votes: 26 21.0%

  • $700 million-1 billion (higher tier for all but the biggest hits

    Votes: 43 34.7%

  • $1-1.3 billion (Top 10 highest grossing animated film of all time, Illumination’s biggest success)

    Votes: 34 27.4%

  • $1.3-1.6 billion (Frozen tier)

    Votes: 9 7.3%

  • 1.6 billion+ (unseats the Lion King remake as the most successful animated movie of all time)

    Votes: 6 4.8%
  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .
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Tye said:
The real problem with Pratt being cast as Mario isn’t the voice (though, clearly people still aren’t liking that, myself included—just look at the replies in this thread), but rather the fact that Pratt is a shitty person who shouldn’t have been given the role in the first place. Unfortunately, that detail is being overlooked by most, with most of the discourse only being about the voice instead of the issues with the actor himself.
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Are you suggesting the discussion should be revisited? Why?

Magic-Man said:
I understand that, although other than his church I don't know what else he has done? And like you said, most of the complaints are centered around his performance.
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What's this thing about his church?
 
BassForever said:
My expectation is the Mario Kart scene is the end of the film and not a major scene in the film.
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I mean, given how these films go, it's reasonably easy to guess that it's the final raid on bowsers castle and how they get there.

The biggest giveaway is that Luigi doesn't seem to be there, which he would be if it was for a post credits celebration thing, though it could be he was just edited out.
 
AxkilAvenger said:
I suspect Pratt is getting dumped on for other reasons than his acting abilities
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I for one can say I think he sounds bad even while ignoring that his name Chris Pratt. If the credits showed me the name "Chad Bratt" it would still be a pitiable performance.
 
This is not a good Mario. I'm not ready to condemn a movie I haven't seen based on the trailer, trailers for movies like this are notoriously bad, but what they're presenting of Mario himself is bad.

The whole take seems fundamentally wrong.

I asked Kondo-san at the time, "Then what kind of music would work with Mario?” He replied that "Mario is cool".
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Exactly. Mario jumps and bounces and loves being Mario. He's not arrogant about it, he gets smacked around, he gets scared sometimes, and surprised. But he loves being Super Mario, and I get why they want an origin story it just isn't fun to see Mario like this. That has nothing to do with Pratt's performance.

Pratt's performance itself does seem pretty uninspired? He gets knocked a lot for reasons that I think are more about the narrative around him than the work he's doing, but he's actually the only member of the cast who is an experienced voice actor. He's not an idiot - yet they seem to be going out of their way to hide his performance. Possibly because they know it will be combed over and critiqued, but also it seems like the lines don't fit in his mouth? Like, the lipsyncing on Mario might genuinely not be done.

Charlie Day and Jack Black are showing up. These are not what I expect to hear out of those characters, but they're making strong choices and they feel like they get the personality of who they are playing. The movie seems to get these character's personalities. I'm not sold on Peach, but Nintendo has never been sure what to do with her other than a Damsel or Strong Female Protagonist either, so I'm ready for whatever.

Just... Mario isn't working.
 
The generic „adorable“ Toad sounds really bad in German lol
And why do Luigi and „Captain“ Toad sound so similar in German…
 
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They also showed the japanese version of the trailer on the japanese stream.

Miyamoto is also bowing in japanese Direct and not anywhere else. Japanese Direct lore.
 
Chris Pratt's performance is okay i think (the others are better though, i like Peach's voice), i think the humor of this movie will be the biggest issue for me. It doesn't seem funny enough. On the other hand, the galaxies reference was exciting.
 
Same French voice actor :

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Pierre Tessier, remember his name.
 
bellydrum said:
What is it about his church in particular that set it apart from every other church in peoples' eyes
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That I'm not sure of. I don't really keep up with a lot of online discourse for my own mental health. For example, the only reason I found out about the JK Rowling stuff was due to the discussion around Hogwarts Legacy and the comparisons she gets to Rick Riordan (my favorite author).
 
The real truth is that everyone's voice acting, including Jack Black, is inferior to the voice of the Yellow Toad that says "Look at us, we're adorable!"
 
So I asked my parents about what they think of the movie and Chris Pratt's performance based on what we've heard so far and they really enjoyed it so I think the general audience likely doesn't care that Pratt isn't the perfect Mario in our own unique opinions - because he isn't. Either way, this movie is gonna be a lot of fun!
 
Pratt sounds fine I guess.

Luigi and Peach though? Awful. It’s just their regular voices.
 
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oldpuck said:
...I get why they want an origin story it just isn't fun to see Mario like this...
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I think it makes sense for the context, but I can see how some people would feel that way. Personally, I don't think trying to stick too close to the original material would work nearly as well in practice as it would on paper; this a different medium with different audience expectations. I think they made the right choice in terms of the direction they seem to be taking with the characters.

My issue with Mario (English) is his voice actor. Chris is just not doing it for me, setting aside the fact that he's problematic as a person, to put it charitably.
 
Linkstrikesback said:
I mean, given how these films go, it's reasonably easy to guess that it's the final raid on bowsers castle and how they get there.

The biggest giveaway is that Luigi doesn't seem to be there, which he would be if it was for a post credits celebration thing, though it could be he was just edited out.
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Fair enough, I thought I saw Bowser in the MK sequence but I didn't do a frame by frame analysis.
 
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Magic-Man said:
That I'm not sure of. I don't really keep up with a lot of online discourse
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It should be understandable that the fact Chris Pratt supports a church that is against gay marriage is enough for people to not want to support Chris Pratt
 
Yep, this is a confirmation. I DO want a feature length Donkey Kong movie. With all the possible kong characters, even the Diddy's gang.
 
LukasManak22 said:
I am just glad that it's not musical as rumored previously. That would piss me off so hard.
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Jack Black did mention that Bowser did have a bit of a musical side in October - though that might be just a scene of him rocking out or whatever.
 
Magic-Man said:
I understand that, although other than his church I don't know what else he has done? And like you said, most of the complaints are centered around his performance.
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It’s been brought up multiple times before on this forum:
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https://thebrag.com/chris-pratt-see...ing-white-supremacist-group-three-percenters/
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MondoMega said:
I dunno, he seems like a real nice fella. Here’s some exclusive proof only for Famiboards eyes:

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Unfortunately it’s been largely ignored because people would rather complain about his voice instead of more important matters.

bellydrum said:
Are you suggesting the discussion should be revisited? Why?
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I’m saying that it should absolutely be talked about more, yes—because, as clearly demonstrated in this very thread, not enough people know about Pratt being a shitty person, to the point that the discussion surrounding him being cast as Mario is 99% about how his voice sounds instead of the bigger issue with the casting. And, as a result, he doesn’t get any significant pushback on the stuff that matters, because people just aren’t aware and/or would rather endlessly complain about his voice (which I don’t like either, but that’s beside the point) than talk about the much more concerning issues like his support of a white supremacist group, etc. And unless people start talking about it more, it’s going to continue to be largely ignored and swept under the rug like it has been. I’m sure Pratt is probably relieved that most people are merely bitching about his performance as Mario rather than the kind of person he is, because the former is surely much easier to deal with than the latter.
 
Pratt's performance in that trailer is terrible even ignoring that he as a person is terrible; but after the previous thread for the first trailer i'm not convinced a lot of people on this forum are capable of reasonably discussing this subject, so i'm not getting into it again.
 
Tye said:
It’s been brought up multiple times before on this forum:


Unfortunately it’s been largely ignored because people would rather complain about his voice instead of more important matters.


I’m saying that it should absolutely be talked about more, yes—because, as clearly demonstrated in this very thread, not enough people know about Pratt being a shitty person, to the point that the discussion surrounding him being cast as Mario is 99% about how his voice sounds instead of the bigger issue with the casting. And, as a result, he doesn’t get any significant pushback on the stuff that matters, because people just aren’t aware and would rather endlessly complain about his voice (which I don’t like either, but that’s beside the point) than talk about the much more concerning issues like his support of a white supremacist group, etc. And unless people start talking about it more, it’s going to continue to be largely ignored and swept under the rug like it has been. I’m sure Pratt is probably relieved that most people are merely bitching about his performance as Mario rather than the kind of person he is, because the former is surely much easier to deal with than the latter.
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I'm sorry but no one is going to take down Pratt from being a millionarie by being aware that he is a jerk. We have decades of criticism-proof Hollywood folks to show that no matter how much you want to wish upon a star and hope that people finding out gossip about them is going to ruin their career it just... doesn't happen. It is melodramatic to act like Pratt's karma will only ever caught up to him and turn him into a homeless man licking the streets for lime if we stop saying his performance sucks and instead turn it into a thread about him. Why I would argue that this board, due to being filled with geeks that spend time on the Internet, likely already has more people that are aware of his demeanor than most other groups of folks across the world.
 
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Looks passable in the grand scheme of things but I personally didn't like the humor displayed and none the performances buy me, with the exception of Peach's. Chris Pratt is a lost cause, he just doesn't sound right for the character.
 
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I marked the coin sound effect out for Peach's combat armor being her bike racing suit.

Though it was cooler when I thought it was just a nod and not part of actual Mario Kart happening in the movie.
 
The movie is ripe with Nintendo Cinematic Universe possibilities:

Ending #1: Mario defeats Bowser by collapsing a bridge. Bowser falls into an abyss. After a celebration, the credits roll. Mid-credits: Dry Bowser emerges from the lava.

Ending #2: Mario and Luigi are rewarded with a castle in the Mushroom Kingdom as thanks for their part in defeating Bowser. Mid-credits scene: the brothers go on holiday, and a certain WAH is heard as someone breaks into the Mario castle.

Ending #3: An alliance between the Kong Kingdom and the Mushroom Kingdom saves the day against Bowser. The victorious allies part ways. Credits roll. Mid-credits: a large, crocodile shaped island rolls up off of the shores of Kong Island. A very, very large eye takes a good look at the Kong golden banana hoard through a telescope.

Ending #4: Mario & Luigi are awarded with a travel voucher for their role in saving the world. Their destination? The Beanbean Kingdom.

Ending #5: Mario tries to make it back to Brooklyn after saving the Mushroom Kingdom. In the post-credits scene, he gets lost in the woods, turned into a strange creature, and we hear Christopher Walken say: "You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
 
As I mentioned in the other thread, Pratt is just laying low and avoiding any controversy, especially after getting into a public argument with Elliot Page about his church being homophobic. He'll keep getting cast in movies where he puts in bad performances because Hollywood doesn't care about any of that stuff.
 
Skipper93653 said:
So I asked my parents about what they think of the movie and Chris Pratt's performance based on what we've heard so far and they really enjoyed it so I think the general audience likely doesn't care that Pratt isn't the perfect Mario in our own unique opinions - because he isn't. Either way, this movie is gonna be a lot of fun!
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we had.. 1 line in the first trailer, and a new one thats not even an hour old. Your parents are that up to date that you causally ask them and they are like "yeah, totally watched it, sounds great"?

I mean, sure, but its the wording that kinda gets me, on the one hand "general audience" on the one hand either a strong opinion on 1 line or seeing the trailer straight after the direct ... not sure if that's the general audience.

Trailer looks ... fine. about what i expected if somebody would have told me "they are making an western made contemporary 3D animation movie about Mario and its good".

Im really not the audience, but will probably look it up when its on streaming sometimes.

Remarks regarding content:
  • while the galaxy reference is cute, i already hate that its already setting up a multiverse with the trailer for the first movie. And i know, its just a "mario reference"... i don't buy it. Mario is an outsider that gets ikeskaid into the mushroom kingdom.
  • It already feels like its just going through the motion of showing as many recognizable elements as possible, and building the plot around those.
  • Peach: its fine. just does not seem like peach ... at least in the non sports games. has more of a warrior princess/strikers flair.
  • DK ... is the old one? that's a retcon ... in many ways. It was clear that cranky is the original, now that's weird.
  • Luigi has more character then a scardy cat, i hope they show that.
  • Toads being the minions was clear, but they feel even more like that then in the paper mario games, where they did seem more like... persons, not just comic relief.
  • The colors are poooopin. Feels like this will at least look great in Cinemas (or with a good OLED TV)
  • Jack black sounds great, luigi ... don't know yet. Peach, while im not a fan of her characterization, sounds great. Mario... shrug really nothing special, but at least not distracting (in regards to performance)
  • Not a huge fan of marios ... bumbling around. He always seemed competent and rather confident. Here they will play him as the bumbling fool (like so many animated movies) and have him magically get really good at being heroic for the last third.
  • Am i seeing correct, only 6 worlds? DK Land, Yoshi's Island, Mushroom Kingdom, The Desert, Penguin Land and the Lava / Koppa Land? (the 2 generic green islands seem to be filler)
 
Tye said:
Unfortunately it’s been largely ignored because people would rather complain about his voice instead of more important matters.
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Oh, no, I think more and more, people have been able to walk and chew bubblegum in a case like this.

It's just that for the sake of some people who would ALWAYS want to default to "Y U GOTTA BRING POLITICS/HIS PERSONAL BELIEFS INTO THIS?!", it's far easier to convey just how crappy his actual performance is. Then feel free to loop in the other stuff.
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DK ... is the old one? that's a retcon ... in many ways. It was clear that cranky is the original, now that's weird.
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Cranky was the Kong monarch sitting on his throne.



It's a change, but I'm getting to like it. I wouldn't mind this type of thing rolling over into the games. Especially if Kremlings are lurking around the corner as a rival "kingdom" for the Kongs!
 
Aether said:
we had.. 1 line in the first trailer, and a new one thats not even an hour old. Your parents are that up to date that you causally ask them and they are like "yeah, totally watched it, sounds great"?

I mean, sure, but its the wording that kinda gets me, on the one hand "general audience" on the one hand either a strong opinion on 1 line or seeing the trailer straight after the direct ... not sure if that's the general audience.
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I mean, I watched the trailer (and last month's) with my parents and are interested in this stuff and they liked both trailers. My irl friends also liked what they saw of the trailer last month and they aren't even that interested in Mario so Chris Pratt doesn't seem to be doing harm outside of inner video game and movie fan circles from what I can tell.
 
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