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Pre-Release Splatoon 3 — Pre-release Discussion Thread

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Just finished watching the presentation and I am super excited for next month. I think I’m going Team Sissors for the splatfest, I love Big Man!
 
Plum said:
Yeah it looks a little different but, seriously though, 5 maps looking a bit more run down than the other… 7 maps does not make for a ‘different look’ in my eyes.
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The I don't know what you want regarding the art direction. Something very different it seems. Not sure what to tell you.

The next city could take place at the city dump, but it will still be colorful and look like a cool place to hang out in. Cause that is Splatoon.
 
Plum said:
I watched the same Direct as you did lol

I’m just pointing out the absurdity of using a random card game mode to shut down people complaining that there are literally no new non-timed game modes for the main game. In terms of that, Splatoon 2 has 3 beat by a country mile seeing as it introduced a (relatively) big new co-op mode into the mix.

And, I mean, there’s 5 new maps, 2 new weapon types, and a few new specials. On the co-op side there’s likely one or two small, identical-looking new maps, and a few new bosses. The bulk of this game’s content is old, unchanged, content, something not true of even CoD games.
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You're saying timed like it automatically disqualifies the modes from existing. They're still there. And I actually like that they're timed, it turns them into events. They'll be permanently added once Splatfests go away.
 
Magic-Man said:
You're saying timed like it automatically disqualifies the modes from existing. They're still there. And I actually like that they're timed, it turns them into events. They'll be permanently added once Splatfests go away.
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Also Clam Blitz wasn't added till months after the game's launch, so I wouldn't agree that 2 somehow introduced more content at launch
 
Tazmin said:
Yeah well every major Nintendo title should appeal to every large and niche Nintendo franchise fandoms is the sentiment I’ve gathered online over the years
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If anyone unironically feels this way, then please, go outside. Take in the fresh air. Call a friend or loved one. Spend time enjoying yourself and your time.

I'll give myself as an example. I don't have any interest in Xenoblade or Fire Emblem or most turn based strategy stuff, and this year is filled with it. But I'm not gonna complain about it because that's not fair - I'll just stick with the dozens of things that interest me instead and spend my time discussing them instead. I think it's fair to be critical, don't get me wrong about that, but at some point for some people, it may be better to just...disengage and talk about the stuff you do like instead.
 
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THEY FIXED THE LOBBIES. That and the Splatana are enough for me.

Not as much as I would've liked to see on Story Mode. I hope it's more along the lines of Octo Expansion.

Really not a fan of Nintendo announcing big DLCs before the game is announced for every game except Mario Odyssey.
 
Magic-Man said:
I genuinely don't get what people want from this. Most of the complaints don't make sense to me. Why do people want some giant single player mode in a MULTIPLAYER game? Why are people saying there's no changes to the gameplay when there's a ton (new specials, movement, and weapons)? Why are people saying there's no new modes when we have the card game, 3 team battles, and Salmon Run invasion? Of course it looks like Splatoon 2, just like each COD plays like the last. If they changed the gameplay people would be pissed. It feels like some of y'all want a completely different game.
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But people aren't just complaining about the lack of a substantial SP, they're complaining about a lack of a substantial SP WHILE being offered no major evolutions to the MP, which is a worst-of-both-worlds scenario.

Which, again, begs the question, what is this game bringing to the table for S1/2 players? I own both, and the only things I'm excited for in S3 are: (some of) the new maps, the katana, the bow, and the new dodge mechanics. Otherwise it seems like more of the same.

Unlike the upcoming/newest games in Nintendo's other iterative series (New Horizons, Mario Kart 8, Scarlet and Violet, Smash Ultimate), I am nowhere near as hyped for Splatoon 3.
 
Clix said:
The I don't know what you want regarding the art direction. Something very different it seems. Not sure what to tell you.

The next city could take place at the city dump, but it will still be colorful and look like a cool place to hang out in. Cause that is Splatoon.
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I wanted it to look different, because right now it looks really similar in almost every area. If I play the game and I’m using Splatoon 2 weapons on a Splatoon 2 map with an outfit from Splatoon 2, then - aesthetically - I’m playing Splatoon 2.

Magic-Man said:
You're saying timed like it automatically disqualifies the modes from existing. They're still there. And I actually like that they're timed, it turns them into events. They'll be permanently added once Splatfests go away.
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I don’t like timed content, cause people have families, jobs, and schedules that may not work around the game’s arbitrary schedule. That and, really, Splatfests should be fun little diversions to increase player count - not the only way to access any meaningful new modes in the game you’ve paid £50 for.

RailWays said:
Also Clam Blitz wasn't added till months after the game's launch, so I wouldn't agree that 2 somehow introduced more content at launch
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What are you talking about lol

Splatoon 2 introduced a radically new co-op mode to the game. One that, whilst time limited, could be played regularly. Splatoon 3 introduces nothing like that.
 
For my money, I am excited for Splatoon 3 (see my signature for more info). There are a lot of new additions and updates to the franchise that I already love. A lot of these updates are stuff that I wish were originally in 2, but that game had a shorter development cycle. I will most likely be day 1 with this game.
 
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I genuinely don't get what people want from this. Most of the complaints don't make sense to me. Why do people want some giant single player mode in a MULTIPLAYER game? Why are people saying there's no changes to the gameplay when there's a ton (new specials, movement, and weapons)? Why are people saying there's no new modes when we have the card game, 3 team battles, and Salmon Run invasion? Of course it looks like Splatoon 2, just like each COD plays like the last. If they changed the gameplay people would be pissed. It feels like some of y'all want a completely different game.
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Unironically I do, but that's life, not every Nintendo game will suit my tastes. I'll forgive Nintendo for this personal slight if they announce a new Donkey Kong.
 
I just realize something. Splatfest right before BOTW 2 comes out.

Link, Zelda, Ganon

or

Courage, Wisdom, Power

It's so perfect so it's definitely not gonna happen.
 
Plum said:
I wanted it to look different, because right now it looks really similar in almost every area. If I play the game and I’m using Splatoon 2 weapons on a Splatoon 2 map with an outfit from Splatoon 2, then - aesthetically - I’m playing Splatoon 2.


I don’t like timed content, cause people have families, jobs, and schedules that may not work around the game’s arbitrary schedule. That and, really, Splatfests should be fun little diversions to increase player count - not the only way to access any meaningful new modes in the game you’ve paid £50 for.


What are you talking about lol

Splatoon 2 introduced a radically new co-op mode to the game. One that, whilst time limited, could be played regularly. Splatoon 3 introduces nothing like that.
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Then you can simply play the next time it's on. Splatfests happen like once every month or two lol, and they last for days. And once again, they'll be added permanently in time.
 
Plum said:
I wanted it to look different, because right now it looks really similar in almost every area. If I play the game and I’m using Splatoon 2 weapons on a Splatoon 2 map with an outfit from Splatoon 2, then - aesthetically - I’m playing Splatoon 2.


I don’t like timed content, cause people have families, jobs, and schedules that may not work around the game’s arbitrary schedule. That and, really, Splatfests should be fun little diversions to increase player count - not the only way to access any meaningful new modes in the game you’ve paid £50 for.


What are you talking about lol

Splatoon 2 introduced a radically new co-op mode to the game. One that, whilst time limited, could be played regularly. Splatoon 3 introduces nothing like that.
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It was an addendum about the first non-timed mode to be introduced in Splatoon 2 not being at launch, since that was a sticking point of discussion
 
Looking forward even more now. Hopefully we can get some Fami squads rolling when the game rolls out.

Also, stop teasing me Best Buy and let me pre-order that pro controller already.
 
Comic Obsessed said:
Reviews shouldn't be kind.
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Such a bizarre thing to write; if the reviews are good it is because the game is good.
Plum said:
No.

I used CoD as an example to show that, no, you don’t need to change a franchise’s entire identity to change how it looks and ‘feels’. Even in Splatoon itself, with the Octo Expansion, they’ve managed to create something that feels wholly unique whilst still feeling like it’s ‘Splatoon.’ They could have done that here but they decided to very slightly iterate on the exact same aesthetic they’ve had for 2 games now.
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The difference between CoD and Splatoon is that Splatoon isn't jumping through different eras. Five years in real time equates five years in the Splatoon world so it shouldn't be too surprising things don't change as drastically as you see between WW2 and modern day warfare.
Plum said:
Splatoon fans: “What do people WANT? Do they want the games to randomly turn into an RTS mode or something? Splatoon is a multiplayer shooter. Get used to it!”

Also Splatoon fans: “This card game they’ve randomly thrown in means people can’t complain about the lack of new multiplayer shooter content.”
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I see you're going back to your old "Some people disagree with me so I'll generalize the whole fandom" shtick.
 
Magic-Man said:
Then you can simply play the next time it's on. Splatfests happen like once every month or two lol, and they last for days. And once again, they'll be added permanently in time.
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“Just play it the next time Nintendo lets you” isn’t the glowing endorsement of timed content that you think it is.

As for it being added permanently… even if it is, that’s in 2 bloody years lol.
RailWays said:
It was an addendum about the first non-timed mode to be introduced, since that was a sticking point of discussion
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Either way, if Splatoon 3 does introduce a new non-timed mode somewhere down the line, it will have still introduced fewer non-timed modes than 2.
 
The sword weapon looks cool, and I'm glad there's a decent number of maps at launch, but beyond that I'm kinda disappointed in what they showed. I put a few hundred hours into Splatoons 1 and 2 combined and enjoy the core gameplay, but I was expecting a little more after five years. The new online features seem helpful, and I'll probably try to give the testdemo a go, but I think I'll wait a bit to see if I want to pick this up, maybe hold off for a sale/content updates. The save data bonus for Splatoon 2 is admittedly enticing, though.
 
Plum said:
Either way, if Splatoon 3 does introduce a new non-timed mode somewhere down the line, it will have still introduced fewer non-timed modes than 2.
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How so? Splatoon 2 only added Clam Blitz in December 2017. If Splatoon 3 adds one within the first 6 months, it will be exactly the same amount of introduced non-timed modes (excluding the card mode, since it isn't co-op).
 
Plum said:
“Just play it the next time Nintendo lets you” isn’t the glowing endorsement of timed content that you think it is.

As for it being added permanently… even if it is, that’s in 2 bloody years lol.

Either way, if Splatoon 3 does introduce a new non-timed mode somewhere down the line, it will have still introduced fewer non-timed modes than 2.
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Then complain about it being timed. Don't say there's no new modes when there is. Just because you don't like the format doesn't mean they're not there.
 
HockeyBird said:
I just realize something. Splatfest right before BOTW 2 comes out.

Link, Zelda, Ganon

or

Courage, Wisdom, Power

It's so perfect so it's definitely not gonna happen.
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Xenoblade DLC comes out
Mio + Noah, Eunie + Taion, Lanz + Sena

Pokémon Comes Out
Sprigatito, Feucoco, Quaxly

Fire Emblem 3 Houses
Edelgard, Dmitri, Claude

End of Season Splatfest
Squid Sisters, Off the Hook, or Big Man.
 
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Seven said:
The difference between CoD and Splatoon is that Splatoon isn't jumping through different eras. Five years in real time equates five years in the Splatoon world so it shouldn't be too surprising things don't change as drastically as you see between WW2 and modern day warfare.
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What? Splatoon is a series where a magical ethereal subway train filled with anthropomorphic blob fish can be randomly added in a DLC. Where GameCubes float in the sky like it’s nothing. Where characters can dress like Tupac and Biggie for no reason. Compared to CoD which has to at least try and adhere to real-life, Splatoon has hella artistic liberty.

That and, frankly, if something is ‘unsurprising’ then that is a negative lol. Salmon Run literally looking identical to the past game, and over half of the maps being direct rips of previous ones, may be ‘unsurprising’ lore-wise, but it’s not fun at all.

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I see you're going back to your old "Some people disagree with me so I'll generalize the whole fandom" shtick.
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Ah yes, cause it’s not like people aren’t generalising people disappointed with the game as “multiplayer haters who will never be pleased.”

Though I suppose this means you agree that Splatoon 3 doesn’t have any new non-timed shooter modes?
 
Sheldon said:
It means my goal of getting all X in a Splatoon game is once again out of reach. Splatoon 3 dropping Clam Blitz and me mainlining the three basic modes before a fourth can be released in an update down the road was my only hope.
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There are no references to having separate ranks for each mode anymore. I think there's only one.
 
Magic-Man said:
Then complain about it being timed. Don't say there's no new modes when there is. Just because you don't like the format doesn't mean they're not there.
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I’ve literally used the disclaimer “non-timed” in between every instance of me using the words “no new” and “game modes.” If you wanna sit there and claim that game modes which come in for two days once a month. - at best - are the same as permanent game modes available in the game at launch, then that’s on you. But they aren’t, and it’s frankly silly to suggest otherwise.

RailWays said:
How so? Splatoon 2 only added Clam Blitz in December 2017. If Splatoon 3 adds one within the first 6 months, it will be exactly the same amount of introduced non-timed modes (excluding the card mode, since it isn't co-op).
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Salmon Run????????
 
Plum said:
I’ve literally used the disclaimer “non-timed” in between every instance of me using the words “no new” and “game modes.” If you wanna sit there and claim that game modes which come in for two days once a month. - at best - are the same as permanent game modes available in the game at launch, then that’s on you. But they aren’t, and it’s frankly silly to suggest otherwise.


Salmon Run????????
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Salmon Run is timed. You specifically mentioned the introduction of non-timed modes compared to Splatoon 2.
 
I would encourage you all to avoid being bogged down in the specifics of this conversation

The people who feel that the game is inadequate will not be reasoned out of feeling that way
 
Plum said:
I’ve literally used the disclaimer “non-timed” in between every instance of me using the words “no new” and “game modes.” If you wanna sit there and claim that game modes which come in for two days once a month. - at best - are the same as permanent game modes available in the game at launch, then that’s on you. But they aren’t, and it’s frankly silly to suggest otherwise.


Salmon Run????????
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They are to me. Maybe that makes me dumb or something, but I really don't care. They're still in the game. Devs still worked on them. People can still play them. They're still new modes whether you like them or not. So that's three new modes in this game.
 
I mainly play Splatoon for the single player and it looked just as fun as Splatoon 2's single player portion.

Also, Splatoon TCG. Ill have fun with that probably lol
 
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Comic Obsessed said:
If only we could explore that world, story and characters.
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We can! Play the single player. The world building in the series is just really cool and the lore is amazing. Also, play Octo, which has an awesome story. Yes, it is not going to be edgy or dark or full of backstabbing twists, but that is not Splatoon. And the characters have tons of personality, especially Pearl and Marina if you played Octo Expansion.

Plum said:
I wanted it to look different, because right now it looks really similar in almost every area. If I play the game and I’m using Splatoon 2 weapons on a Splatoon 2 map with an outfit from Splatoon 2, then - aesthetically - I’m playing Splatoon 2.


I don’t like timed content, cause people have families, jobs, and schedules that may not work around the game’s arbitrary schedule. That and, really, Splatfests should be fun little diversions to increase player count - not the only way to access any meaningful new modes in the game you’ve paid £50 for.


What are you talking about lol

Splatoon 2 introduced a radically new co-op mode to the game. One that, whilst time limited, could be played regularly. Splatoon 3 introduces nothing like that.
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The time limit events would be an issue, except that except for at the very start, Salmon Run was practically on all the time. More like on all the time with a short break every once in a while of 6 hours.
 
Plum said:
What? Splatoon is a series where a magical ethereal subway train filled with anthropomorphic blob fish can be randomly added in a DLC. Where GameCubes float in the sky like it’s nothing. Where characters can dress like Tupac and Biggie for no reason. Compared to CoD which has to at least try and adhere to real-life, Splatoon has hella artistic liberty.

That and, frankly, if something is ‘unsurprising’ then that is a negative lol. Salmon Run literally looking identical to the past game, and over half of the maps being direct rips of previous ones, may be ‘unsurprising’ lore-wise, but it’s not fun at all.
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Your complaint was why Splatoon doesn't have as many aesthetic changes as you see in CoD games depicting WW2 and modern day warfare and I gave you the answer. Splatoon isn't jumping around different eras, it's all a linear timeline which means there won't be any drastic changes like you see in weapon and armor designs between WW2 and today. Instead the changes in Splatoon are more subtle such as the evolution of the various in-game "bands" where you see members change and create new groups which signify the changing times.
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Ah yes, cause it’s not like people aren’t generalising people disappointed with the game as “multiplayer haters who will never be pleased.”
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I mean when most complaints are about how Nintendo isn't showcasing the single player campaign or making any drastic changes to it then it does seem like most people are unhappy about how multiplayer-focused Splatoon is.
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Though I suppose this means you agree that Splatoon 3 doesn’t have any new non-timed shooter modes?
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Sure, I'll agree to that; but you could say the same thing about Splatoon 2 which initially launched with only the original three Ranked modes from OG Splatoon. Clam Blitz was introduced months later and Salmon Run apparently doesn't count since you're excluding timed modes.
 
bellydrum said:
No worries, sorry for singling you out
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No problem. Was not able to watch the direct live and only got my info from this thread and wario64 and didn’t see much buzz initially about the demo

I confused the testfire with splatfest demo so I didn’t realize. I hope that demo will let me test it on my internet but I’m not holding my breath
 
RailWays said:
Salmon run is timed. you specifically mentioned the introduction of non-timed modes compared to Splatoon 2.
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This is just being pedantic; Salmon Run was timed, but it was very regular with ample opportunities to play. Splatfests (of which only half is new) and infrequent Salmon Run events are… not that. They’re diversions for people who have the ability and desire to play the game on certain days and times.

Raccoon said:
I would encourage you all to avoid being bogged down in the specifics of this conversation

The people who feel that the game is inadequate will not be reasoned out of feeling that way
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Dude we’re just trying to say that we’re not 100% hyped about the game without being shut down by ad hominen and fallacious arguments.
Magic-Man said:
They are to me. Maybe that makes me dumb or something, but I really don't care. They're still in the game. Devs still worked on them. People can still play them. They're still new modes whether you like them or not. So that's three new modes in this game.
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If you’re excited for them, great. You seem to be quite a big fan so I’ve got no doubt that you’ll catch most of the Splatfests and Salmon Run events. But in the context of people wanting more from Splatoon, modes which aren’t going to be played - or played regularly - by the vast majority of players, are not the same thing at all as permanent (or highly-regular) modes that can be played from Day One.

And, I mean, a new card mode has nothing to do with the main gameplay. Hell, it’s not even unique anymore; tons of games have random card or board games thrown in, and they’re very rarely seen as anything more than just a side diversion. It’s a ‘new mode’, but it’s not a ‘new pillar’ of the game in the way Salmon Run was, because it’s not ‘part of the game’ you’re playing most of the time.

Either way, the fact that you need to be a fan of Splatoon, who is also a fan of card games, who can also tune in to every timed event, to get the most out of the ‘new’ modes in the game, is not a ringing endorsement to me.
 
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