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Pre-Release Splatoon 3 — Pre-release Discussion Thread
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I honestly have no idea why this board is so icy on Splatoon.
Xenoblade 3 doesn't have a different artstyle too. It's clearly a refined artstyle of Xenoblade 2, just like Splatoon 3 is to 2.
Splatoon 3 has new characters, outfits, weapons, and mechanics. Along with a brand new unique single player mode, along with an expanded Salmon run mode.
Xenoblade 3 doesn't have a different artstyle too. It's clearly a refined artstyle of Xenoblade 2, just like Splatoon 3 is to 2.
Mario Odyssey is clearly an auto runner.
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Just my two cents, but the game is still 5 1/2 months, or 20 weeks, out. There is still plenty of time for Nintendo to have a Splatoon Direct or talk about what the game will feature in other forms of media.
I am in no way ready to call this "glorified DLC" or Splatoon 2.5
I am in no way ready to call this "glorified DLC" or Splatoon 2.5
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You...you do remember that most of the new shit for Splatoon 2 was revealed like three months beforehand right?
I swear, the difference between grumpy boomers in this thread and other places that have younger audiences is like night and day. People are really pissed they failed to predict this franchise's success 7 years ago and really feel the need to mock, degrade, and underplay the fact that this game is more popular and has more staying power than insert video game franchise here
Splatoon and Splatoon 2 each had modes that weren't added until months after the game was out and revealed only weeks before release or not at all. Safe to say you're trolling.
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Just gonna say, Smash 4.5 was a thing.
Smash did get 2 30 minute presentations explaining how it wasn't 4.5 though. Once Splatoon gets that, I think people will ease up a bit.
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I mean it's just painfully apparent when the people posting drive-bys have never played, or even really seen, the previous Splatoon games. Like, using the "if they had something they would have shown it by now" argument is always extremely dumb, but in this case if you actually knew anything about Splatoon you'd realize how hilarious it is to suggest the only multiplayer mode is going to be Turf War.
Yes, that was extremely dumb from day one too. Let's not retroactively pretend people were justified for saying it.
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Nobody has said that Splatoon is less popular or important for Nintendo than the favorite franchises of the users itt, only thing people have complained about It’s the game feeling like it’s just the same/too similar as the previous entry .
I don’t think is a fair critique yet because not only we don’t know enough yet but also a lot of people ignore as mentioned by other posters the nature of online-focused games when it comes to new entries, but in any case critique that, not people underplaying Splatoon success because nobody has done that.
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Bayo or Zelda ports. Bayo could also work for October though.
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Probably gonna get this and Mario Strikers with a voucher this summer... Looking forward to get stuck in with turf wars again, it's been a minute!
Crossing my fingers for an improved single player mode this time around, a new mode??, maybe some more stages available at launch than in 2, and an overall snappier and quicker experience in getting into matches from bootup
Crossing my fingers for an improved single player mode this time around, a new mode??, maybe some more stages available at launch than in 2, and an overall snappier and quicker experience in getting into matches from bootup
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I'm a bit disappointed that the main gameplay seems barely different from Splatoon 2, but I love the style and flair they use for the victory screen. I'm hoping that come June or so they'll have one last substantial thing to show us to show why we should buy a new Splatoon instead of sticking with 2.
There’s at least twice the amount of posts complaining about “How Famiboards hates Splatoon and thinks all the games are identical”, than there are actual posts implying such a thing lol
As for my thoughts; the game does look too similar, but I’m not gonna make a definitive statement until we see what the single player is up to. Like with CoD the singleplayer is where the majority of the ‘new’ stuff lies (settings, mechanics, story-telling methods, etc) so I’m really hoping that this game’s SP isn’t just more of Splatoon 2’s (already quite similar to 1) SP. Though I definitely trust them more to do that now than I would in a world where the sublime Octo Expansion didn’t exist.
On the MP front I’m just hoping for some well-needed QoL improvements, and some better/less grindy progression. The trailer here looks promising in that regard, but this seems like something a big Direct feature will shed light on. At the very least I'd like a basic "pick your mode, all maps available" lobby system. I have never found any joy in being locked to a miniscule amount of maps and modes at any one time.
Also a tad annoyed at the release date. Xeno 3 was the one I wanted for September (gives me more time to catch up) and Splatoon 3 was the one I wanted for July lol
As for my thoughts; the game does look too similar, but I’m not gonna make a definitive statement until we see what the single player is up to. Like with CoD the singleplayer is where the majority of the ‘new’ stuff lies (settings, mechanics, story-telling methods, etc) so I’m really hoping that this game’s SP isn’t just more of Splatoon 2’s (already quite similar to 1) SP. Though I definitely trust them more to do that now than I would in a world where the sublime Octo Expansion didn’t exist.
On the MP front I’m just hoping for some well-needed QoL improvements, and some better/less grindy progression. The trailer here looks promising in that regard, but this seems like something a big Direct feature will shed light on. At the very least I'd like a basic "pick your mode, all maps available" lobby system. I have never found any joy in being locked to a miniscule amount of maps and modes at any one time.
Also a tad annoyed at the release date. Xeno 3 was the one I wanted for September (gives me more time to catch up) and Splatoon 3 was the one I wanted for July lol
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All of you crazy people posting "September 9th... that's still summer!" just led me down a interesting rabbit hole of the varying definitions of seasons (astronomical vs meteorological etc) , so cheers for that lol. I had never been aware that we weren't all operating on the same idea of when the seasons occur.
Here in Ireland summer is May to the end of July, apparently due to ancient Celtic beliefs. September 9th is literally 40 days outside of summer. I do agree that the June-August definition used by the UK is probably a better definition, but any that extends into September is crazy!
EDIT: As for the game, it does look far too similar, but I said the same thing about Splatoon 2 and was totally wrong. That game 100% earned its sequel status, it was brilliant.
The one thing I'm desperate for them to change is how the gear loadouts work. I'm not a stupid guy, but I could never, ever understand it in either Splatoon game, despite watching multiple guides on youtube. Seemed designed to frustrate and create busywork.
Here in Ireland summer is May to the end of July, apparently due to ancient Celtic beliefs. September 9th is literally 40 days outside of summer. I do agree that the June-August definition used by the UK is probably a better definition, but any that extends into September is crazy!
EDIT: As for the game, it does look far too similar, but I said the same thing about Splatoon 2 and was totally wrong. That game 100% earned its sequel status, it was brilliant.
The one thing I'm desperate for them to change is how the gear loadouts work. I'm not a stupid guy, but I could never, ever understand it in either Splatoon game, despite watching multiple guides on youtube. Seemed designed to frustrate and create busywork.
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Bayo in September at the end of the month to match with Splatoon would make sense
This wasn't true for Splatoon 2. Salmon Run contained more new story implications while Splatfest exclusive stages brought the fresh gameplay gimmicks. The singleplayer was, moreso than the multiplayer, a retread of what the first one did.
But, as you said, Octo Expansion is grounds for optimism, and showing off Mammalians already confirms there'll be lore developments in the campaign again.
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Excited for this, and it comes at a sensible interval after the summer splurge (though if Two Point Campus is good on Switch, I might get addicted to that).
Also wouldn't assume we've seen everything yet. The game is still 4 and a half months away from release, after all, and it'll have free content updates after launch.
Also wouldn't assume we've seen everything yet. The game is still 4 and a half months away from release, after all, and it'll have free content updates after launch.
That's what I was getting at there, yeah (with the "already quite similar to 1" part). Splatoon 2's base singleplayer was a sizeable disappointment because it was basically just a Splatoon 1 level pack, with the same story and even the same final boss. Splatoon 3 will, hopefully, not be that - Octo Expansion and the fact that they're not just doing "the Great Zapfish is stolen by the Octolings" again both have be very optimistic.
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Also I’m exactly wondering how much a unedited turf war match could be different from the last two games. The entire purpose is to show gameplay of a mode that has existed since Splatoon 1 to highlight differences. …and yeah there are a lot of differences compare to the past two games…but of course the base gameplay will be the same.
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I adore Splatoon and am not yet a Xenoblade fan (though I’ve promised myself to jump in before the end of the generation).
Xenoblade gets a new art style, characters and world with each new entry. Splatoon does not, and has been very consistent since the series introduction in 2015 seven years ago. That kind of “evolution” rather than reinvention is quite rare from Nintendo. Even Mario Kart always gets a new look and feel with every new entry. It’s not at all a problem, and is quite refreshing to see Nintendo invest so deeply into a new IP and online title, but I can understand why it’s causes split reactions in the Nintendo fan base. It’s different for Nintendo, and one can effectively point that out (and even go so far as disliking it) without implying that it’s a bad thing.
Personally, I can’t wait for this title but am still holding out hope that the Single Player blows my mind in some new way.
Xenoblade gets a new art style, characters and world with each new entry. Splatoon does not, and has been very consistent since the series introduction in 2015 seven years ago. That kind of “evolution” rather than reinvention is quite rare from Nintendo. Even Mario Kart always gets a new look and feel with every new entry. It’s not at all a problem, and is quite refreshing to see Nintendo invest so deeply into a new IP and online title, but I can understand why it’s causes split reactions in the Nintendo fan base. It’s different for Nintendo, and one can effectively point that out (and even go so far as disliking it) without implying that it’s a bad thing.
Personally, I can’t wait for this title but am still holding out hope that the Single Player blows my mind in some new way.
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This is really a poor comparison. Especially how both are revealed and shown.
And in reality, the fan based for these show different reactions.
I kinda wouldn't mind if DJ Octavio showed up as final boss with an even lamer remix of his first fight but then gets whacked by the actual big bad halfway through and the real campaign begins.
I kinda would be mad if it didn't happen, actually.
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Hoping that they’re just keeping their cards close on exciting features or whatever because it frankly looks more of the same outside of new weapons and movement options.
Also I’ve really not been vibing with how they’re marketing this game. Should have used one of the ranked modes as turf wars is hella boring.
Also I’ve really not been vibing with how they’re marketing this game. Should have used one of the ranked modes as turf wars is hella boring.
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A little bit more food for thought - like it or not, Splatoon is the closest Nintendo has come to aiming to support a competitive esports scene around one of their titles. With that in mind, the meta of the core multiplayer gameplay is not going to massively change from title to title, it will refine. You can see that transformation from 1 to 2, and the subsequent updates to 2 which continually focused on balance.
Now, we’re lucky that Nintendo is sure to create a balanced experience around that mode with new modes like Salmon Run, Single Player and world building, and a lot of that remains to be seen. My point is that it’s simply unfair to judge the game based off of what we’ve seen because it is the part least likely to massively change. Now, Salmon Run’s reveal on the other hand? Yeah, that one stung a little bit for me since it was more similar than I’d like and had more room to change. But who knows what else they have coming.
Also, this probably feels underwhelming specifically held up against XB3 because it received it’s classic “Nintendo Blowout” trailer just this week with it being so close to release. They’re not going to show their hand on a game releasing in September now.
Now, we’re lucky that Nintendo is sure to create a balanced experience around that mode with new modes like Salmon Run, Single Player and world building, and a lot of that remains to be seen. My point is that it’s simply unfair to judge the game based off of what we’ve seen because it is the part least likely to massively change. Now, Salmon Run’s reveal on the other hand? Yeah, that one stung a little bit for me since it was more similar than I’d like and had more room to change. But who knows what else they have coming.
Also, this probably feels underwhelming specifically held up against XB3 because it received it’s classic “Nintendo Blowout” trailer just this week with it being so close to release. They’re not going to show their hand on a game releasing in September now.
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Jesus that looks so good. But I don't think any trailer was as good as the reveal one. Xenoblade was really swapped lol. I suspect they wanted to release Splatoon 3 earlier in the summer but needed more time to polish.
Box art looks dope!!
Box art looks dope!!
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I agree with everything you say, and I really appreciate your post didn't have a passive-aggressive attitude towards people who atm aren't sold on the game.
At the same time, one wonders why they decided to show us Turf War 3.0 (which of course is more or less "the same"), instead of whatever new mode they are cooking. And yes, I'm pretty confident Splatoon 3 will have at least one new mode (like Splat2 did with Salmon Run) and a meaty multiplayer campaign, especially after Octo Expansion.
A little example. I think a Fortnite-like mode, or a mode where you have vehicles and use ink as fuel, would really suit Splatoon. Had they shown us this hypothetical new mode and then Turf War 3.0 and Salmon Run 2.0, I wouldn't have seen this game as a glorified DLC.
I'm positive about Splatoon 3 because I really trust the developers, but what they showed so far does really feel like Splatoon 2.5.
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I think it’s fair to say XC3 looks more different to previous games than Splatoon 3 at this point.
At the same time, Splatoon is a multiplayer game and as such, additions are likely to appear pretty minimal to more casual players.
I used to be a huge Gears of War player and I imagine game-changing additions probably looked pretty small to the wider audience.
Splatoon doesn’t get to throw away its characters, story, lore, world, music and combat with every new instalment. It’s more about refining and adding stuff.
It also doesn’t trade in those things, which is to say, it’s all about the gameplay.
Splatoon 2 was great and I’m sure this will be too. However, I must confess, the trailers haven’t done much for me so far.
At the same time, Splatoon is a multiplayer game and as such, additions are likely to appear pretty minimal to more casual players.
I used to be a huge Gears of War player and I imagine game-changing additions probably looked pretty small to the wider audience.
Splatoon doesn’t get to throw away its characters, story, lore, world, music and combat with every new instalment. It’s more about refining and adding stuff.
It also doesn’t trade in those things, which is to say, it’s all about the gameplay.
Splatoon 2 was great and I’m sure this will be too. However, I must confess, the trailers haven’t done much for me so far.
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My personal explanation for this is my final point in my original message – my belief, or hope, is that they are holding out on that final special something for the final blowout closer to release.
With or without that final “wow” moment I’ll be buying the game. But, I’m hopeful based off of how experimental they were willing to be with Octo Expansion. That felt like them saying “yeah, we had to get this game out early to have the series on Switch, but here’s what we would have explored with more time”. Luckily, Splatoon 2 had the advantage of the novelty of playing the game on new hardware / handheld for me and kept me pretty interested with that in mind, but I fell off of it faster than 1. So much so that I didn’t even end up getting Octo Expansion - more so due to what else was coming out at the time leaving it to fall into my middle-of-backlog-abyss. Today’s announcement of it being free for NSO+ has me smiling with that in mind.
This is me, I am not excited at all for this game. It just looks like splatoon 2
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New mode will likely be saved for a Direct rather than a random tweet. When it's time to push the game, we'll start to see the things that help differentiate it from 2.
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Just confirming local co-op really isn’t a thing for this right? My wife and I can’t play together off one switch console with two controllers?
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Smash wasn't availabe on Switch prior to Ultimate though. It had a reason to exist as a new, full-priced game becausse it was on a new system. Splatoon 3 doesn't have that luxury.
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I think the big thing we need to keep in mind is that this forum, being a spinoff of a spinoff that was already predominantly interested in hardcore oriented single player games...is, unsurprisingly, interested in hardcore oriented single player games. Some of the biggest threads focused on individual games, be they STs or prerelease discussion threads, are focused on single player games - Metroid, Legends Arceus, SMT V, and of course Xenoblade. Two of the biggest community threads are for RPGs and for the Xeno series. Hell, one of the reasons we even have this forum was due to a Xenoblade 2 joke gone awry. So yeah, I see people more excited for the big single player game with new characters and a new story and a big new world and less excited for the big multiplayer game that focuses more on weapons to differentiate itself over lots of big new mechanics, and yeah, I'm not surprised.
I say this as someone who, despite hesitation, will be getting Splatoon 3 and who has basically no interest in the Xenoblade series, and as someone who is not opposed to the slant so much as pointing it out. All of these games will sell well in the end, anyway.
I say this as someone who, despite hesitation, will be getting Splatoon 3 and who has basically no interest in the Xenoblade series, and as someone who is not opposed to the slant so much as pointing it out. All of these games will sell well in the end, anyway.
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You couldn't do that in previous games, but we still don't know about this one.
I'm not surprised either, but I'd say that's all the more reason to be mindful of one's own biases, isn't it?
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According to the eshop it's one player per console.
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All I needed to know thank you.
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Love how it's Splatoon one gun, Splatoon 2 guns, Splatoon 3.. arrows bow?
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so Nintendo basically saw Splatoon 2 sales slowing down, so they decided to release this entry to keep Splatoon relevant until the real sequel arrive on their next gen console
or at least that's the vibes am getting up until now
or at least that's the vibes am getting up until now
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I can’t decide: do I redownload Splatoon 2 and dabble so I don’t stink out loud by the time 3 rolls around, or do I wait until September and go in fresh? 
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What. Again, it's an unedited Turf War battle. It's for a bunch of people who play the game enough to notice how different the changes make the gameplay. Now it's not a "real sequel"?
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I don't know if it's just a colors but it looks a lot better for me as with every other Nintendo game before release, and we are still about 5 months from release.
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I don't know if it's just a colors but it looks a lot better for me as with every other Nintendo game before release, and we are still about 5 months from release.
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Mario Kart gets a new visual style + core mechanic refresh with every entry. This is quite different and more evolutionary.
Though I’m not supporting who you may be indirectly addressing – see my previous posts in this thread regarding why I don’t think that’s a bad thing whatsoever.
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Not a major Splatoon multiplayer person but it looks fun. I’m sure we’ll see a lot of the single player around E3 time.
Also I’m looking forward to the DLC now it’s on Online+ Something I always fancied but never got around to buying. I loved the Splatoon 2 single player mode.
Also what was the Xenoblade joke that went wrong on the other forum?
Also I’m looking forward to the DLC now it’s on Online+ Something I always fancied but never got around to buying. I loved the Splatoon 2 single player mode.
I’m going for Mario Rabbids 2 in October, 2D Donkey Kong by the Mario team in November and Bayonetta 3 in early December.
Also what was the Xenoblade joke that went wrong on the other forum?
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