Hundreds of people have died. This is a really weird comment.It will only take several days for Russia to finish the operation, let’s hope that not many people will die or suffer. All major cities and most soldiers will surrender quite fast because everything else would be stupid.
Hundreds are dead. Possibly thousands by now. Think before you type please.It will only take several days for Russia to finish the operation, let’s hope that not many people will die or suffer. All major cities and most soldiers will surrender quite fast because everything else would be stupid.
The length of time is not the issue here. Is this supposed to be reassuring?It will only take several days for Russia to finish the operation,
Hundreds of people have already been killed by Putin's orders.let’s hope that not many people will die or suffer.
They have said they want to fight for their safety, and you should respect that they want to do that.All major cities and most soldiers will surrender quite fast because everything else would be stupid.
This here sounds extremely concerning. I hope to god that it has nothing to do with Russia, but...
I‘m also against this war as someone from a small neutral country in Europe (Austria) and it’s clear to me that quite a few people have died during the first wave which is a tragedy.They have said they want to fight for their safety, and you should respect that they want to do that.
Western Ukraine will never surrender and will fight to the death if they feel the need. There is a lot of historic reason for this. I’m not sure this area will be directly targeted but they have very strong pro-Ukraine mentality. I think this sentiment is probably much stronger in most places east of the Donbas now after 2014.I‘m also against this war as someone from a small neutral country in Europe (Austria) and it’s clear to me that quite a few people have died during the first wave which is a tragedy.
The best thing to do is a fast surrender, because the worst thing that could happen to a captured soldier is a short prison sentence before beeing released. There is absolutely no way Ukraine can win this.
I‘m also against this war as someone from a small neutral country in Europe (Austria) and it’s clear to me that quite a few people have died during the first wave which is a tragedy.
The best thing to do is a fast surrender, because the worst thing that could happen to a captured soldier is a short prison sentence before beeing released. There is absolutely no way Ukraine can win this.
This is not going to happen. Right now it's definitely possible that Putin is basically aiming at ending Ukraine as a country. Also, Austria is not a neutral country in this conflict.I‘m also against this war as someone from a small neutral country in Europe (Austria) and it’s clear to me that quite a few people have died during the first wave which is a tragedy.
The best thing to do is a fast surrender, because the worst thing that could happen to a captured soldier is a short prison sentence before beeing released. There is absolutely no way Ukraine can win this.
Austria is no NATO member and we are neutral besides our EU membership. We have put sanctions on Russia because this invasion is a clear violation of international law which is a fact and should be punished.This is not going to happen. Right now it's definitely possible that Putin is basically aiming at ending Ukraine as a country. Also, Austria is not a neutral country in this conflict.
I'm watching CNN and their reporter in Kyiv is saying that russian and belarusian are both attacking ukrainian forces at the border. I must have missed the belarusian's declaration of war on Ukraine
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Are you a descendant of Neville Chamberlain?I‘m also against this war as someone from a small neutral country in Europe (Austria) and it’s clear to me that quite a few people have died during the first wave which is a tragedy.
The best thing to do is a fast surrender, because the worst thing that could happen to a captured soldier is a short prison sentence before beeing released. There is absolutely no way Ukraine can win this.
I strongly disagree actually. Comparing a European country to a middle eastern one is geopolitically nonsensical. The historical and cultural variables are very crucial too. Putin is not a shortsighted or foolish person. I hope you're right, obviously. I can tell you too that Finland hopes you're right as well because they aren't NATO and Putin laments their independence as well. Who is gonna protect Finland?This is gonna be Putin’s Iraq. Incredibly shortsighted, foolish, and cruel. Insanity, this war over nothing. People are going to die for nothing.
Look at Belarus. Who do you think runs Belarus? Lukashenko or Putin? He doesn't need to occupy all of Ukraine. He just needs to control it. This is done in numerous ways. Destabilization will be crucial here.Well, I was wrong, I wasn't expecting Putin/Russia to actually initiate full-scale conflict against Ukraine. I don't see how this is going to end up long-term because I don't even know what their goals are, they aren't going to be able to occupy all of Ukraine.
What does she mean by that? There's more countries Putin is going to invade
Hopefully Putin isn't actually that fucking dumb. He doesn't have the manpower. The only reason nobody else is getting involved is because he has nukes, Russia would lose the war in hours if he didn't have them.Yes. Nobody takes this kind of military action without serious expansionist plans, and he made a huge speech declaring those plans.
Europe is likely about to get thrown in to massive continent spanning conflict while the previous time is just about in living memory. Fuck
I mean in terms of the rhetoric we are seeing from Russian officials regarding the conflict and the ability of Russia to hold a country the size and population of Ukraine. They are going to have an insurgency on their hands that would be difficult to manage. Occupation seems impossible.Are you a descendant of Neville Chamberlain?
I strongly disagree actually. Comparing a European country to a middle eastern one is geopolitically nonsensical. The historical and cultural variables are very crucial too. Putin is not a shortsighted or foolish person. I hope you're right, obviously. I can tell you too that Finland hopes you're right as well because they aren't NATO and Putin laments their independence as well. Who is gonna protect Finland?
Look at Belarus. Who do you think runs Belarus? Lukashenko or Putin? He doesn't need to occupy all of Ukraine. He just needs to control it. This is done in numerous ways. Destabilization will be crucial here.
Fair enough. I do think there will be insurgency but that could get into shaky waters. Who arms this insurgency? Us? Europe? It could lead to another area of issues.I mean in terms of the rhetoric we are seeing from Russian officials regarding the conflict and the ability of Russia to hold a country the size and population of Ukraine. They are going to have an insurgency on their hands that would be difficult to manage. Occupation seems impossible.
Obviously Iraq and Ukraine are very different countries.
Well the US has been arming Ukraine for a while now, I wouldn’t be surprised if that continuedFair enough. I do think there will be insurgency but that could get into shaky waters. Who arms this insurgency? Us? Europe? It could lead to another area of issues.
What I mean is that Russia can argue we are arming terrorists if that were to happen. They've tried to make these assertions with Syria but it held no ground. Post this invasion, if successful, it would.Well the US has been arming Ukraine for a while now, I wouldn’t be surprised if that continued
on the other hand. isnt it putin who is using the reluctance of the west to expand their territory? they started 2014 with crimea. sanctions were imposed which hurt russia but ultimately not enough. now they are attacking the rest of ukraine and may even gain more than the dombass. what comes next? poland?I highly doubt anybody is going to instigate World War 3 over this situation
they did exactly that before 2014 and the ukrain citizens said no. its doubtful that ukraines will accept another janukovicThey don't even have to fully occupy Ukraine. They will do what the US have done countless times and make one of Putin's puppets Ukrainian President and support him with troops and equipment.
Putin has done everything to continue to destabilise Ukraine since Maidan. Annexation of Crimea, support of separatists in eastern Ukraine. Now Russia is attacking strategic locations all over Ukraine. They will absolutely go for it. Whether it will ultimately be successful or not is beside the point when blood is being shed regardless.they did exactly that before 2014 and the ukrain citizens said no. its doubtful that ukraines will accept another janukovic
Russian apologists should not have a place on this forum.
Oh, I have no doubt about that. The Russian government has been tolerant of cyber crime for ages, seeing how Russian hacking groups - many with alledged ties to Russian intelligence agencies such as GRU - have been credibly accused with ransomware incidents like WannaCry and NotPetya as well as the Bundestag hack of 2015.I think it's fairly clear that cyber attacks are the work of Russia; their plan is to attack communication infrastructure while they invade to try and hamper Ukraine's response, as well as banks and other day to day infrastructure.
Who are you referring to?Russian apologists should not have a place on this forum.
Holy shit he's hitting western Ukraine as well, way past any lines needed to get water to Crimea. North of Moldova it's that far from the "disputed" regions.
This might be a full invasion of the entire nation.
There's no way Poland is taking any sort of offer from Russia regarding Ukraine. They would be instantly kicked out of the EU, and find themselves getting sanctioned alongside Russia.So he absorbs Belarus, and offers Poland part of what was Ukraine in return for land leading to Kaliningrad? Or does he just invade Poland or Lithuania to link up?
I know which is the worrying part. if he did all this for Crimea then what's he going to do to get there.There's no way Poland is taking any sort of offer from Russia regarding Ukraine. They would be instantly kicked out of the EU, and find themselves getting sanctioned alongside Russia.
It is a blanket statement.Who are you referring to?
Could you expand on it?It is a blanket statement.