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News Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes announced, launching June 24 (UPDATE: new "Leicester Alliance" trailer, see threadmarks)

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storres said:
Why do we need to hold people accountable? Nate ended up being right in the end.
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Did he though?

I'm not hating on him. I think his wires got crossed up. Nothing about what he said the FE game is Warriors. However, he did say he could see an FE game around the same time Three Houses came out. It's completely possible his source heard about both a warriors game (particularly a release date) and a new mainline game and didn't know.

Either way, the discussion over FE really soured my view on this announcement lmfao.
 
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I feel for anyone disappointed by this announcement. Rumors definitely set expectations too high. The next game will come though, I’m thinking next year.

Even though they should be for me, I still haven’t gotten hooked by a proper Fire Emblem, but I did like Warriors and I’m excited to play this.
 
So doubling down on FEW1’s roster issue of recency bias. Well hopefully at least all the classes and races will actually get repped here
 
While a main Fire Emblem series release would have been preferable, I've actually been finding myself surprised how much I ended up enjoying the Nintendo IP and Musou mashups. Probably not a day one sort of title for me, but they can be excellent supplementary titles for their mainline games and it is interesting to see the ways they apply the formula to each setting.
 
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storres said:
Why do we need to hold people accountable? Nate ended up being right in the end.
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Listening to his prediction stream, there was nothing about a musou game and he said that the game was by the 3 houses team using the 3 houses engine. In any case, I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing out inaccurate predictions from so called insiders, but neither should we hold them "accountable", that's just silly imo.
 
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I want this more than a new FE. I'm one of the weird few who didn't care for Three Houses (though I did play it through with the DLC).
 
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KC Hazel said:
Holding them accountable? Some people get ridiculed because they're clearly lying. Nate obviously has some idea of things that are going on, and relays what he's told. He's not held 'accountable' because most people know that the info might not always pan out 100 percent. Nate knows that and acknowledges it. No need to go head hunting because the info wasn't 100 percent accurate.
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By that logic anyone could be a "credible insider". Many people on this site almost worship these people, hanging on their every word, basing their hype or disappointment on some nebulous "hints" that could as well be shots in dark. "He knows something." Great, and what if that's 10%, while 90% are educated guesses? But I guess some people like being manipulated by clout chasers. You do you.
 
Age of Calamity was loads of fun with a great gameplay loop. Hopefully this follows in that games footsteps, with an improved frame rate.
 
Rin-go said:
By that logic anyone could be a "credible insider". Many people on this site almost worship these people, hanging on their every word, basing their hype or disappointment on some nebulous "hints" that could as well be shots in dark. "He knows something." Great, and what if that's 10%, while 90% are educated guesses? But I guess some people like being manipulated by clout chasers. You do you.
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I'm not one of the people that worships people who have sources in the game industry, but I'm also not someone offended by it. If you have an issue with how people react to insiders, take it out on them, not the person sharing the info acknowledging that it may not all be accurate. What do you think Nate should be held accountable for? He never claims his info is 100 percent, just that he relays what he hears. If other people want to put too much stock in that, that's not really his fault.

You seem to be a bit upset that you were 'manipulated'. Perhaps you're reading more into this info than you're supposed to. Just take the info as Nate advises you to, not official info and relayed information. If you do that, you wont be disappointed. If you don't care at all, just ignore what he's saying.
 
Not what any of us were expecting, but I'll still play this. Ironically enough I just bout the first one last week.
 
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I'm not exactly sure why some people are so surprised by another Fire Emblem Warriors title. The Nintendo collaborations have been very successful for KT, and FE fits much more neatly into the themes that Koei Tecmo specializes in than most Nintendo IPs.
 
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Rin-go said:
And why are you making excuses for them instead of holding them accountable? Who says those aren't just educated guesses? Ever heard of cold reading? Some "insiders" get ridiculed as not credible, yet others have excuse after excuse made for them without any need to actually explain themselves. It's bizarre.
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WE MUST HOLD THE VIDEO GAME PREDICTION MAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS SINS
 
I far prefer the musuos like this and AoC that are set in one particular game world, compared to the original FEW or Hyrule Warriors, which were bland mish-mashes.

I'll definitely pick this one up.
 
I would have preferred a mainline game because although I like Warriors games Fire Emblem warriors is just not for me. Having said that, I haven't finished Three Houses yet so assuming this means no new mainline Fire Emblem game this year I'm happy enough cause it gives me more time to finish Three Houses.

(edit) to add on to this little discussion about insiders, I think it's obvious Nate has legit info but also sometimes things can get mixed up or his sources get stuff wrong. there's no need to go on some kind of inquisition about it, if it bothers you so much then don't let yourself get swept up into believing rumours will definitely come true.
 
Aostia82 said:
I agree that the first FE Warriors wasn't so "strong" as Age of Calamity nor Persona Strikers, in terms of blending genres/story but I'm pretty sure this one will be WAY more integrated into the Three Houses world/gameplay
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Agreed, I like that they are building on this direction of "Tell an interesting story with slick production values, targeted for the fans, and mash-in mix-ups of the Warriors gameplay."

Feels like they are iterating and getting better with each one. Fingers crossed the engine is getting hammered out too.

Overall I'd like to see more different FE spin-offs, but this one does make a ton of sense.
 
KC Hazel said:
I'm not one of the people that worships people who have sources in the game industry, but I'm also not someone offended by it. If you have an issue with how people react to insiders, take it out on them, not the person sharing the info acknowledging that it may not all be accurate. What do you think Nate should be held accountable for? He never claims his info is 100 percent, just that he relays what he hears. If other people want to put too much stock in that, that's not really his fault.

You seem to be a bit upset that you were 'manipulated'. Perhaps you're reading more into this info than you're supposed to. Just take the info as Nate advises you to, not official info and relayed information. If you do that, you wont be disappointed. If you don't care at all, just ignore what he's saying.
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I see where he’s coming from. To be fair, Nate is often vague and he often notes when he’s just making a prediction.

I’m sure he’s kicking himself a bit right now, because the Fire Emblem reveal was about as confident as I’ve ever heard him. He wasn’t presenting it as an educated guess, he was pretty much saying that there would be a mainline Fire Emblem game in the show and that just flat-out didn’t happen. He’s usually not as confident as he seemed here and unfortunately he swung and missed (ok…maybe it was more like a foul ball).
 
KC Hazel said:
I'm not one of the people that worships people who have sources in the game industry, but I'm also not someone offended by it. If you have an issue with how people react to insiders, take it out on them, not the person sharing the info acknowledging that it may not all be accurate. What do you think Nate should be held accountable for? He never claims his info is 100 percent, just that he relays what he hears. If other people want to put too much stock in that, that's not really his fault.

You seem to be a bit upset that you were 'manipulated'. Perhaps you're reading more into this info than you're supposed to. Just take the info as Nate advises you to, not official info and relayed information. If you do that, you wont be disappointed. If you don't care at all, just ignore what he's saying.
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I see where he’s coming from. To be fair, Nate is often vague and he often notes when he’s just making a prediction.

I’m sure he’s kicking himself a bit right now, because the Fire Emblem reveal was about as confident as I’ve ever heard him. He wasn’t presenting it as an educated guess, he was pretty much saying that there would be a mainline Fire Emblem game in the show and that just flat-out didn’t happen. He’s usually not as confident as he seemed here and unfortunately he swung and missed (ok…maybe it was more like a foul ball).
 
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Cubs017 said:
I see where he’s coming from. To be fair, Nate is often vague and he often notes when he’s just making a prediction.

I’m sure he’s kicking himself a bit right now, because the Fire Emblem reveal was about as confident as I’ve ever heard him. He wasn’t presenting it as an educated guess, he was pretty much saying that there would be a mainline Fire Emblem game in the show and that just flat-out didn’t happen. He’s usually not as confident as he seemed here and unfortunately he swung and missed (ok…maybe it was more like a foul ball).
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Well, in the past Nate was very confident there would be a general direct because he had info on Super Mario 3D All-Stars, but then we just got a Mario anniversary direct instead. It seems like Nate gets partial info and then sometimes extrapolates it incorrectly, which is fine, it's not the end of the world. Just need to take anything we hear from any insider with that context in mind.
 
Claude should be upside down on the cover, clearly not a mainline game/alternate timeline as a result
 
Cubs017 said:
I see where he’s coming from. To be fair, Nate is often vague and he often notes when he’s just making a prediction.

I’m sure he’s kicking himself a bit right now, because the Fire Emblem reveal was about as confident as I’ve ever heard him. He wasn’t presenting it as an educated guess, he was pretty much saying that there would be a mainline Fire Emblem game in the show and that just flat-out didn’t happen. He’s usually not as confident as he seemed here and unfortunately he swung and missed (ok…maybe it was more like a foul ball).
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Yeah, but regardless of how confident Nate is, he always says he's just telling us what he heard. We really should take what he says as that, and only that. There is no need to hold him accountable if that stuff ends up being different. Like, what does that even mean? What are we supposed to do to him?
 
My problem is I have no interest in playing 3 houses even if I am curious about this(I have srpg block bad. It’s been improving but awakening has been in my backlog for years
 
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So it looks like there'll be a map for missions similar to AoC, and battalions from Three Houses will be incorporated somehow (maybe as another type of special)
 
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KC Hazel said:
Yeah, but regardless of how confident Nate is, he always says he's just telling us what he heard. We really should take what he says as that, and only that. There is no need to hold him accountable if that stuff ends up being different. Like, what does that even mean? What are we supposed to do to him?
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Do? Nothing. I just hope that it brings everyone back down to earth a bit. Nate was wrong, and I hope that he admits it and everyone moves on. Nobody ever really seems to know what Nintendo is doing and maybe we should stop fooling ourselves into thinking that they do.
 
KC Hazel said:
Yeah, but regardless of how confident Nate is, he always says he's just telling us what he heard. We really should take what he says as that, and only that. There is no need to hold him accountable if that stuff ends up being different. Like, what does that even mean? What are we supposed to do to him?
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Just to add to that, for all we know, a new Fire Emblem strategy game could well be in the cards later in the year.

I'm listening to Nate's pod (timestamped for when the FE comments start) and yea what he describes does not sound like a Warriors sequel (Unless they are doing a lot new with this entry).

Obviously IntSys is hard at work on some form of Fire Emblem, be it mainline or Echoes. Maybe E3 is the fated Direct :)
 
Cubs017 said:
Do? Nothing. I just hope that it brings everyone back down to earth a bit. Nate was wrong, and I hope that he admits it and everyone moves on. Nobody ever really seems to know what Nintendo is doing and maybe we should stop fooling ourselves into thinking that they do.
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He responded in another thread saying this was a surprise to him, but he's still sure about the FE game he described existing, though he's now unsure about when it would release
 
Xavi said:
Fuck...imma have to get this.
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Gonna need this too. I already have the other 3 Switch Fire Emblem CE's.

Also how is the narrative in this game gonna work, that was one thought I couldn't get outta my head during the trailer.
 
Nate has already said in another thread that this is not the game he'd heard about.
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At worst he was wrong in his confidence that it'd show up in the Direct. As of right now, he's still certain that there's a 'main FE' on the way.
 
Chie said:
Gonna need this too. I already have the other 3 Switch Fire Emblem CE's.

Also how is the narrative in this game gonna work, that was one thought I couldn't get outta my head during the trailer.
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Some sort of alternate timeline, though I suppose the question is when it branches.

Maybe the pre-timeskip portion of the game plays out differently to keep Dimitri from losing his eye (since the characters otherwise seem to be using their timeskip designs)
 
I'm very confident that the new mainline Fire Emblem and the remake that Emily and Nate have talked about are real. Maybe aince Xenoblade 3 is out in Septemrnber Nintendo may slot the new mainline game into that early december slot. An E3/June direct announcement would make sense.
 
Also can the next Fire Emblem spinoff be a basketball game? We already have uniforms for the cast:

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Maybe purple hair used some kind of magic to pollute the timeline which is how everyone wound up in the this situation? Just a guess.
 
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Well I bought Age of Calamity, and I like it, but this game is hindered by the low resolution and fps dropfest.... Thats why I have to stop playing it.

I dont want to get burned again...
 
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Alright, there's a "Return to Camp" button on the map screen (and also it seems like demarcations of enemy and allied territory. Also, Edelgard is attacking Garreg Mach). Monastery system making a return? Would obviously make a ton of sense here
 
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granth said:
He also implied that the casual game was a 1-2-Switch sequel and said Xenoblade 3 was likely delayed to 2023. He's being fed duff information, purposefully or otherwise.
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The casual game wasn't Switch Sports. It remains unannounced.

I didn't say XBC3 was likely to be delayed. I entertained the possibility it could find itself facing a small delay, pending how smoothly optimization went which caused the game to be delayed from 2021 to 2022. Within the context of the conversation, it was obvious speculation & entertaining a potential outcome.

And this was not the Fire Emblem I spoke of. The FE I've spoken of is a mainline entry. My contact was not aware of this title and did not confuse one for the other.
 
NateDrake said:
The casual game wasn't Switch Sports. It remains unannounced.

I didn't say XBC3 was likely to be delayed. I entertained the possibility it could find itself facing a small delay, pending how smoothly optimization went which caused the game to be delayed from 2021 to 2022. Within the context of the conversation, it was obvious speculation & entertaining a potential outcome.

And this was not the Fire Emblem I spoke of. The FE I've spoken of is a mainline entry. My contact was not aware of this title and did not confuse one for the other.
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Think the mainline game could come out in early December? Like the slot Xenoblade 2 released in 2017. Just a guess from me and puts some distance between itself and Warriors.
 
What the heck 3 houses didn’t have Manakate(Dragonstone) or beaststone users? Forget my earlier comment, FEW1 only having one real example of the former was bad enough but I can’t believe both are off the table here. Best part of FE is the more magical creatures and it’s not even an option for this? That sucks
 
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Chie said:
Think the mainline game could come out in early December? Like the slot Xenoblade 2 released in 2017. Just a guess from me and puts some distance between itself and Warriors.
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I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of such an outcome playing out. There being a spinoff certainly leaves the door open for them to bring a mainline entry out towards the latter half of the year. We'll see how things go.

FEW3H was a surprise, but it doesn't change the prior info of a new mainline game and a remake being in development for Switch.
 
NateDrake said:
I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of such an outcome playing out. There being a spinoff certainly leaves the door open for them to bring a mainline entry out towards the latter half of the year. We'll see how things go.

FEW3H was a surprise, but it doesn't change the prior info of a new mainline game and a remake being in development for Switch.
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I'm very optimistic about that mainline game still hitting this year. I consider Warriors to be a bonus, a welcome surprise in addition to the new game and remake. We haven't had any new Fire Emblem games since the 3 houses dlc dropped over 2 years ago so this is a very welcome outcome.
 
So... this game isn't the game that was heard about, but now we're not confident that the game we were apparently very confident was coming out this year is coming out this year? But the game we weren't confident was coming out this year, XC3, is coming out this year.

And Switch Sports isn't Everybody's Horsefest.
 
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