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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST8| Press Your (Nintendo Direct) Luck!

Okay, so:

September: FE4 remake
October: Metroid Prime 4 + Mario Party Superduperstars
November: 2d Zelda

This is a pretty solid Holiday lineup, right? Maybe add a small Eshop game and/or a casual game (Tomodachi?) and/or a small Kirby game and I'm thinking this is what we can expect for Fall 2024 + the big reveals of the Direct.
 
Okay, so:

September: FE4 remake
October: Metroid Prime 4 + Mario Party Superduperstars
November: 2d Zelda

This is a pretty solid Holiday lineup, right? Maybe add a small Eshop game and/or a casual game (Tomodachi?) and/or a small Kirby game and I'm thinking this is what we can expect for Fall 2024 + the big reveals of the Direct.
I still don't think the Switch is getting another non-port Zelda game. They would save that for Switch 2 (it's not getting a brand new 3D Zelda for some time). It's Windwaker/Twilight Princess or bust.
 
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Mario Party has been pretty consistent with coming every 3 years, so I think the 2024 one, if it happens, was always meant to come this year. Superstars itself was already a nod to the MPs that released on handhelds and its codename is even reminiscent of Top 100.

But well, there was a chunk of people that worked on Super Mario Party that didn't come back for Superstars, so maybe they had a game coming last fall? Seems weird since the fall was stacked with Wonder and RPG already.

Maybe it was supposed to go like:
2021 Superstars, 2023 Superstars 2/Super 2, 2026 Switch MP.
And now it's gonna be a game for Switch this year and one for Switch 2 in 2026?

Anyways, a Mario Party coming this fall always made a ton of sense imo.
 
Okay, so:

September: FE4 remake
October: Metroid Prime 4 + Mario Party Superduperstars
November: 2d Zelda

This is a pretty solid Holiday lineup, right? Maybe add a small Eshop game and/or a casual game (Tomodachi?) and/or a small Kirby game and I'm thinking this is what we can expect for Fall 2024 + the big reveals of the Direct.
I think DK is more likely than Metroid but either are good possibilities
 
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Okay, so:

September: FE4 remake
October: Metroid Prime 4 + Mario Party Superduperstars
November: 2d Zelda

This is a pretty solid Holiday lineup, right? Maybe add a small Eshop game and/or a casual game (Tomodachi?) and/or a small Kirby game and I'm thinking this is what we can expect for Fall 2024 + the big reveals of the Direct.
2D Zelda isnt happening

It's gonna be WWHD + TPHD
 
October 2021: Metroid Dread, Mario Party Superstars
October 2024: Metroid Prime 4, new Mario Party

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if there will be no switch 2 game announcements this direct i wonder what nintendo will hold on to for switch 2 and what theyll release this year for switch 1

- MP4 is being developed by retro and judging by how MP remastered looked and performed on switch 1, I think they could do just fine with a 2024 switch 1 only release and maybe later a switch 2 patch/re-release

- A new DK is something I think theyll hold on to for switch 2, same as a new 3d mario and new mario kart.

- A new starfox game and a 2d zelda remake/remaster is something I don't know if they would really hold on to for switch 2 because well, starfox is a very niche franchise (speaking in terms of nintendo sales numbers aka mario/zelda/pokemon) so making it switch 2 only would be kinda sending it to die. while zelda is definitely more popular, the 2d remake/remaster i think they'd release now is either oracle of seasons/ages or ALTTP in the style of link's awakening on switch which is again, something that would do way better numbers as a cross/switch-1 only release

- f-zero is imo in the current situation: they probably thought some time ago about remastering gx since that would be the most optimal route as it's the best game in the franchise but also one that remastered could look good enough for a switch game. but they probably gave up because they felt like the gameplay difficulty wasn't up to current nintendo accessibility standards which would've forced them to tweak a bunch of things in the game which would feel weird for older players. if you think about it, MP1 comes really close to nintendo's current difficulty standards, I guess that's why they didn't hesitate on remastering it.

either that or well, sega wasn't collaborating.

that said, I think if the gx remake/remaster isn't happening, the only possible outcome is either a complete reboot deviating a lot from gx's playstyle at best* or at worse, an f-zero classic collection for switch that may not include gx.
* I prefer new things instead of rehashing the same thing every time, don't judge me.

- rhythm heaven: I think nintendo feels like currently warioware is a "good enough" replacement but considering their recent experiments with less popular franchises like another code and endless ocean, I think we could see a new rhythm heaven game yeah, totally. the problem is trying to guess WHEN

why I think it hasn't happened yet: imo it has to do with pricing (them figuring out a price that would work for a new title in this franchise whilst making the most profit considering the cost of physical copies) and resource allocation: maybe the fear that allocating resources to make a new RH game instead of a new warioware or that the franchise's brand recognition and/or userbase has withered away since the DS era... I don't know.

- nintendogs: it's the lack of a microphone on switch 1. come on, who the heck expects nintendo to release a new nintendogs on a device without a microphone? using a headset is not an option (come on, basic UX... the voice commands were a core feature in the DS games)
Idk what else really. motion controls on switch could be a nice way to interact with your pet and if we really went so far as to insist on having no voice commands, they could make it like in pokemon sword and shield: shake a toy to call your pet and in handheld mode you could use the face buttons maybe or the touchscreen.

so thinking that way, maybe they could still release a new nintendogs on switch one but realistically speaking, now that we know switch 2 has a microphone, I think they're holding it for the next console.

- punchout: eehhh... maybe a minigame inside a new switch sports?

- chibi robo: probably GC remaster port

given what i said, I made a bingo card for the next direct where I placed the more "realistic" expectations on red cards and delusional ones on blue cards:
HwbkQgC.png
 
Imran Khan said:
Also, as far as I know, supposed to be a release last Fall!

But again: could be entirely wrong, could be not the thing I'm thinking of, etc. Do not take as concrete.
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I guess it maybe makes sense with E1-2S being a supposed disaster in development, though if that were the case, I doubt it's Mario Party. I'm not familiar with Midori's track record so idk how far out this would be, maybe it was a Switch game and they reworked it for the successor after deciding to put out E1-2S last year? Though that seems very unlikely given NDcube's history, there's no way they're not dropping another Mario Party on Switch while they still can
 
I guess it maybe makes sense with E1-2S being a supposed disaster in development, though if that were the case, I doubt it's Mario Party. I'm not familiar with Midori's track record so idk how far out this would be, maybe it was a Switch game and they reworked it for the successor after deciding to put out E1-2S last year? Though that seems very unlikely given NDcube's history, there's no way they're not dropping another Mario Party on Switch while they still can
I dont think the development was the disaster, it was more the product testing that was a terrible because no one wanted to play it.
 
So the June direct I got
Mario Party announcement in the middle somewhere
Zelda main character title
Metroid Prime 4
FE4 remake also feels pretty likely; by all accounts that's just a finished Switch 1 game they've been sitting on for ages

And they do like opening directs with Fire Emblem
 
So the June direct I got
Mario Party announcement in the middle somewhere
Zelda main character title
Metroid Prime 4
FE4 remake opens
Mario Party is the next dedicated game shown after a batch of highlights
Prime 4 gets the Dread treatment from E3 2021
Zelda or DK closes?
 
if there will be no switch 2 game announcements this direct i wonder what nintendo will hold on to for switch 2 and what theyll release this year for switch 1

- MP4 is being developed by retro and judging by how MP remastered looked and performed on switch 1, I think they could do just fine with a 2024 switch 1 only release and maybe later a switch 2 patch/re-release

- A new DK is something I think theyll hold on to for switch 2, same as a new 3d mario and new mario kart.

- A new starfox game and a 2d zelda remake/remaster is something I don't know if they would really hold on to for switch 2 because well, starfox is a very niche franchise (speaking in terms of nintendo sales numbers aka mario/zelda/pokemon) so making it switch 2 only would be kinda sending it to die. while zelda is definitely more popular, the 2d remake/remaster i think they'd release now is either oracle of seasons/ages or ALTTP in the style of link's awakening on switch which is again, something that would do way better numbers as a cross/switch-1 only release

- f-zero is imo in the current situation: they probably thought some time ago about remastering gx since that would be the most optimal route as it's the best game in the franchise but also one that remastered could look good enough for a switch game. but they probably gave up because they felt like the gameplay difficulty wasn't up to current nintendo accessibility standards which would've forced them to tweak a bunch of things in the game which would feel weird for older players. if you think about it, MP1 comes really close to nintendo's current difficulty standards, I guess that's why they didn't hesitate on remastering it.

either that or well, sega wasn't collaborating.

that said, I think if the gx remake/remaster isn't happening, the only possible outcome is either a complete reboot deviating a lot from gx's playstyle at best* or at worse, an f-zero classic collection for switch that may not include gx.
* I prefer new things instead of rehashing the same thing every time, don't judge me.

- rhythm heaven: I think nintendo feels like currently warioware is a "good enough" replacement but considering their recent experiments with less popular franchises like another code and endless ocean, I think we could see a new rhythm heaven game yeah, totally. the problem is trying to guess WHEN

why I think it hasn't happened yet: imo it has to do with pricing (them figuring out a price that would work for a new title in this franchise whilst making the most profit considering the cost of physical copies) and resource allocation: maybe the fear that allocating resources to make a new RH game instead of a new warioware or that the franchise's brand recognition and/or userbase has withered away since the DS era... I don't know.

- nintendogs: it's the lack of a microphone on switch 1. come on, who the heck expects nintendo to release a new nintendogs on a device without a microphone? using a headset is not an option (come on, basic UX... the voice commands were a core feature in the DS games)
Idk what else really. motion controls on switch could be a nice way to interact with your pet and if we really went so far as to insist on having no voice commands, they could make it like in pokemon sword and shield: shake a toy to call your pet and in handheld mode you could use the face buttons maybe or the touchscreen.

so thinking that way, maybe they could still release a new nintendogs on switch one but realistically speaking, now that we know switch 2 has a microphone, I think they're holding it for the next console.

- punchout: eehhh... maybe a minigame inside a new switch sports?

- chibi robo: probably GC remaster port

given what i said, I made a bingo card for the next direct where I placed the more "realistic" expectations on red cards and delusional ones on blue cards:
HwbkQgC.png
SFV isn't happening when we are knee deep into 6. Switch 2 port for 6 should happen though.
 
I figured it out. It's going to be a Zelda life simulator. In the mornings, you go to your job giving lessons children at the Hateno school. Then you rush over to your second job, managing the Zonai Survey Team. After a long day, you sneak off to your secret spot in a well to get some additional research done. Then it's finally time Purah Pad and chill with your short, himbo boyfriend at home.
 
I dont think the development was the disaster, it was more the product testing that was a terrible because no one wanted to play it.
What does E1-S2 stand for? Or is it just a codename for the project and we'll find out what it is on release? But whatever it is, if the playtesters don't even want to play it, that sounds like a pretty bad sign, surprised Nintendo would even push it out the door unless massive improvements have been made since.
 
What does E1-S2 stand for? Or is it just a codename for the project and we'll find out what it is on release? But whatever it is, if the playtesters don't even want to play it, that sounds like a pretty bad sign, surprised Nintendo would even push it out the door unless massive improvements have been made since.
Everybody 1-2 Switch, it came out last year.
 
Need the June Direct to start with a Tomodachi Life 2 announcement backed by this song



but of course Nintendo won't do that because they are cowards
 
I still don't think the Switch is getting another non-profit Zelda game.
This confused me - what do you mean by this? Every Zelda game on Switch has been successful.
I figured it out. It's going to be a Zelda life simulator. In the mornings, you go to your job giving lessons children at the Hateno school. Then you rush over to your second job, managing the Zonai Survey Team. After a long day, you sneak off to your secret spot in a well to get some additional research done. Then it's finally time Purah Pad and chill with your short, himbo boyfriend at home.
Tbh this sounds like a good life.
 
This confused me - what do you mean by this? Every Zelda game on Switch has been successful.

Tbh this sounds like a good life.
Oh yeah, of course. But I think every new game will be saved for the next system, with only Windwaker HD and/or Twilight Princess HD (two ports) coming to Switch. The Switch 2 won't have an original mainline 3D Zelda game for at least four years, and a brand new 2D Zelda or a remake could help fill that absence.

Edit: oh wait, there's a typo. I meant port.
 
Oh yeah, of course. But I think every new game will be saved for the next system, with only Windwaker HD and/or Twilight Princess HD (two ports) coming to Switch. The Switch 2 won't have an original mainline 3D Zelda game for at least four years, and a brand new 2D Zelda or a remake could help fill that absence.
Ah fair, I see.
 
Aonuma's last word on a game starring Zelda was literally 'maybe', and it was a recent maybe: December 2023.
As Aonuma's translator was relaying this response, Aonuma reportedly then interjected in English to say "Maybe. Maybe, maybe".
I feel like, in Aonuma-land, this qualifies as a hint, though reports at the time took it as non-committal. Obviously, he's not going to do a Miyamoto and casually announce a game in an interview, but Aonuma does have a record of giving the game away and sometimes doing so deliberately if obtusely. His 2016 'thief game' hint was for Link's Awakening remake.

In 2019, Aonuma claimed no further Zelda remakes were forthcoming and also said:
When specifically asked about a Skyward Sword remake, Aonuma was surprised when it was suggested that it be remade without motion controls. He told the interviewers that it seems like it would be impossible [without motion controls].
There's also his 2018 Zelda concert appearance where he apparently told the audience he knew they wanted Skyward Sword on Switch, but I'm not sure if that was an accurate translation.
 
Aonuma's last word on a game starring Zelda was literally 'maybe', and it was a recent maybe: December 2023.

I feel like, in Aonuma-land, this qualifies as a hint, though reports at the time took it as non-committal. Obviously, he's not going to do a Miyamoto and casually announce a game in an interview, but Aonuma does have a record of giving the game away and sometimes doing so deliberately if obtusely. His 2016 'thief game' hint was for Link's Awakening remake.

In 2019, Aonuma claimed no further Zelda remakes were forthcoming and also said:

There's also his 2018 Zelda concert appearance where he apparently told the audience he knew they wanted Skyward Sword on Switch, but I'm not sure if that was an accurate translation.
Did he completely dismiss more remakes? I’m sure he said “no comment” on OOT remake
 
Did he completely dismiss more remakes? I’m sure he said “no comment” on OOT remake
He said there were no plans for more remakes at the time of Link's Awakening, but that was two years before Skyward Sword HD released and six months or so after he'd supposedly teased Skyward Sword for Switch at a concert in Japan. I doubt Aonuma (speaking through a translator) is distinguishing between 'remake' and 'remaster' the way people love to do on forums.

My point is Aonuma's kinda slippery with teases, as Link's Awakening shows.
 
FE4 remake opens
Mario Party is the next dedicated game shown after a batch of highlights
Prime 4 gets the Dread treatment from E3 2021
Zelda or DK closes?
Yeah I'm going to assume that if all three of the former get shown, then it goes down to either Zelda or DK as the closer.
 
popn music? You're saying popn music portable 3????
I know it's definitely not true, but as someone who goes out and plays popn music every day, I'd be happy to have a reasonably priced home version for my switch
edit:I would still buy it even if it costs $70, just because Pop'n Music Lively is too expensive
 
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if there will be no switch 2 game announcements this direct i wonder what nintendo will hold on to for switch 2 and what theyll release this year for switch 1

- MP4 is being developed by retro and judging by how MP remastered looked and performed on switch 1, I think they could do just fine with a 2024 switch 1 only release and maybe later a switch 2 patch/re-release

- A new DK is something I think theyll hold on to for switch 2, same as a new 3d mario and new mario kart.

- A new starfox game and a 2d zelda remake/remaster is something I don't know if they would really hold on to for switch 2 because well, starfox is a very niche franchise (speaking in terms of nintendo sales numbers aka mario/zelda/pokemon) so making it switch 2 only would be kinda sending it to die. while zelda is definitely more popular, the 2d remake/remaster i think they'd release now is either oracle of seasons/ages or ALTTP in the style of link's awakening on switch which is again, something that would do way better numbers as a cross/switch-1 only release

- f-zero is imo in the current situation: they probably thought some time ago about remastering gx since that would be the most optimal route as it's the best game in the franchise but also one that remastered could look good enough for a switch game. but they probably gave up because they felt like the gameplay difficulty wasn't up to current nintendo accessibility standards which would've forced them to tweak a bunch of things in the game which would feel weird for older players. if you think about it, MP1 comes really close to nintendo's current difficulty standards, I guess that's why they didn't hesitate on remastering it.

either that or well, sega wasn't collaborating.

that said, I think if the gx remake/remaster isn't happening, the only possible outcome is either a complete reboot deviating a lot from gx's playstyle at best* or at worse, an f-zero classic collection for switch that may not include gx.
* I prefer new things instead of rehashing the same thing every time, don't judge me.

- rhythm heaven: I think nintendo feels like currently warioware is a "good enough" replacement but considering their recent experiments with less popular franchises like another code and endless ocean, I think we could see a new rhythm heaven game yeah, totally. the problem is trying to guess WHEN

why I think it hasn't happened yet: imo it has to do with pricing (them figuring out a price that would work for a new title in this franchise whilst making the most profit considering the cost of physical copies) and resource allocation: maybe the fear that allocating resources to make a new RH game instead of a new warioware or that the franchise's brand recognition and/or userbase has withered away since the DS era... I don't know.

- nintendogs: it's the lack of a microphone on switch 1. come on, who the heck expects nintendo to release a new nintendogs on a device without a microphone? using a headset is not an option (come on, basic UX... the voice commands were a core feature in the DS games)
Idk what else really. motion controls on switch could be a nice way to interact with your pet and if we really went so far as to insist on having no voice commands, they could make it like in pokemon sword and shield: shake a toy to call your pet and in handheld mode you could use the face buttons maybe or the touchscreen.

so thinking that way, maybe they could still release a new nintendogs on switch one but realistically speaking, now that we know switch 2 has a microphone, I think they're holding it for the next console.

- punchout: eehhh... maybe a minigame inside a new switch sports?

- chibi robo: probably GC remaster port

given what i said, I made a bingo card for the next direct where I placed the more "realistic" expectations on red cards and delusional ones on blue cards:
HwbkQgC.png
So is there have a leak about pop'n music?
 
What does E1-S2 stand for? Or is it just a codename for the project and we'll find out what it is on release? But whatever it is, if the playtesters don't even want to play it, that sounds like a pretty bad sign, surprised Nintendo would even push it out the door unless massive improvements have been made since.

Imran Khan reported on this back in June 2022, though there had been some rumors about it earlier. We don't know the extent to which EPD4 and NDcube reworked it, but it sounds close to completion in that piece. If it had been initially planned for 2022, there may have been another game planned for 2023 that would have been displaced in the schedule by E1-2S's release that year. Imran Khan may have heard of Banquet having been scheduled for last year, so it's possible that Banquet's release was impacted by the development of E1-2S.
 
I'm on board this delulu train, but I am kinda curious about Hi-Fi Rush's state of limbo. Tango is shut down, but does MS keep the IP then? Do they still want to port a game from a studio that no longer exists? Could they do so, even?

Well, the IP should stay in MS' hand as they own it basically. Unless they sell it off to some other party.

As for a port, i'm not saying it will happen, but in theory, the port can be done by an outside contract dev, as most ports are done to begin with.
 
Well, the IP should stay in MS' hand as they own it basically. Unless they sell it off to some other party.

As for a port, i'm not saying it will happen, but in theory, the port can be done by an outside contract dev, as most ports are done to begin with.
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, it just seems weird from the datamined content late last year to have in-game shirts indicating PS, Switch and Steam, but then only seemingly coming forward with the PS port (did it end up releasing on Steam?)

Not that I know game development; I just thought if they can make lil extra freebies like this, they would have already put in the legwork in porting the game already before finding out Switch 1 couldn't run it and push it to Switch 2, but if that's the case and the code is half finished, could they eat that expense with no ROE unless like you said some other port studio comes in to finish the job and recoup some costs?
 
A port could technically happen, but this is a niche budget title and releases of Hi-Fi Rush will just bring negative PR news cycles to Microsoft.
Yeah, I guess the social media blowback would also sting more than anything.

In short I'm just wondering if I should bite the bullet and buy on PC if I won't be able to play it on my dominant console of choice lol
 
Yeah, I guess the social media blowback would also sting more than anything.

In short I'm just wondering if I should bite the bullet and buy on PC if I won't be able to play it on my dominant console of choice lol

If you wanna play it and have a PC that is able to run it, then go ahead and buy it.
 
My current prediction is:
August: either nothing, Rhythm Heaven, eShop Kirby game or a Hagi port;
September: Fire Emblem 4 Remake;
October: 2D Zelda(or whatever the game starring Zelda is), Mario Party;
November: Metroid Prime 4
December: either nothing, Tomodachi Life sequel or Golden Sun Trilogy reboot(Way Forward)

I think they save DK for the September Direct and it comes by spring/summer 2025 as a cross gen title. I don't rule out it coming this fall instead and Metroid Prime 4 gets pushed to 2025 as a cross gen game. I think they give the November spot to Prime 4 the same way they gave it to Super Mario RPG last year, with Wonder coming in October.
From those, I think Metroid Prime 4, Fire Emblem remake, Hi-Fi Rush (yeah...), (no) new Star Fox and no new Nintendogs are fairly likely.

I'd swap Wind Waker HD/Twilight Princess HD for a new 2D Zelda/an spin off starring Zelda. I think they won't release them as a double pack, but we get something like Twilight Princess Remastered first and then Wind Waker Definitive Edition.
Aonuma's last word on a game starring Zelda was literally 'maybe', and it was a recent maybe: December 2023.

I feel like, in Aonuma-land, this qualifies as a hint, though reports at the time took it as non-committal. Obviously, he's not going to do a Miyamoto and casually announce a game in an interview, but Aonuma does have a record of giving the game away and sometimes doing so deliberately if obtusely. His 2016 'thief game' hint was for Link's Awakening remake.

In 2019, Aonuma claimed no further Zelda remakes were forthcoming and also said:

There's also his 2018 Zelda concert appearance where he apparently told the audience he knew they wanted Skyward Sword on Switch, but I'm not sure if that was an accurate translation.
Tbh I thought she'd be playable on Tears of the Kingdom from the moment the first teaser was shown. Moreso because during 2016 Aonuma said they thought about having Zelda playable instead of Link when asked about the rumors of a female Link.

The "maybe" by Aonuma surely feels like "we're making one right now ☺️☺️" seeing his past.

I can't get over he saying that he wanted to make a game where you play as a thief in 2016 only for it to be Link's Awakening lol. Also there's the concert thing about teasing Skyward Sword(when it was barely entering development?) and then dismissing it.
So when do we expect the Ocarina of Time remake to hit?

Anouma totally hinted to it in an interview a few months ago.
I think they'll get that early/mid Switch 2's life. It might even be cross gen like in expecting most remasters and remakes to be(and I even believe Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door was meant to be...).
A new 3D Zelda is 2027 at the earliest, so I think the feast of either 2025 or 2026 is the Ocarina of Time remake. I think it's gonna be pretty much like Metroid Prime Remastered and The Thousand Year Door, not a reimagining like FF VII.

I think this year they have the 2D Zelda and next year they go big with Ocarina of Time remake as a launch window title for Switch 2.
 
I find it so strange that we won’t get a mario vs sonic at Paris…
There could be a number of reasons why. They already started skipping out on the Winter Games entries (the first time may have been a result of Ubisoft acquiring the rights instead, though the second time feels more like a purposeful decision to skip considering there was no Winter Olympics video game that year). Nintendo pulling out of the Tokyo Olympics may have even damaged their relationship with the Olympics Committee.

Do we have an idea of how well Tokyo 2020 did? It may simply be that it didn't meet expectations.
 


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