Sadly, i don't have a screen that supports VRR.
I'm not sure if I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, but even with the current hardware specs of the switch2, selling it for $449 is a high possibility.
Arguably, posts like this are proof that my shrink needs to up my medication. As I used to say in my free-styling days, "my rap name is Mental because I am the the illest"
100x more? So...am I interpreting this correctly by thinking that we could see strong performance gains in games like the Warriors/Musou titles? I say that knowing the NPC behaviors and interactions in TOTK must be a lot more complex than the ones for your average Warriors/Musou game NPC.
Yes, by default. The compatibility layer should allow so, the CPU has twice the cores and around 4 times the IPC per core (not accounting for higher clock speeds) it's possible. Do not expect unlocked framerates for existing titles without a patch though.
That makes sense. Thanks!
It certainly depends on the approach they go for and where the bottleneck for the game lies. If that particular game was hamstrung by CPU performance, then there should be major improvements since it's not possible for that to be 1/1. Anything GPU related might not be enhanced because of the need to aim for shader accuracy and the new GPU being virtually unable to run switch software natively (though it might no longer bandwidth starved while in the compatibility layer, not sure how that works), so... Maybe it's a good time to look out overclocked switch tests.
posts like this is why oldpuck is the GOAT of the hardware thread
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We won't know until we see an exclusive running in the hardware, though considering it is a console Nintendo should be able to adjust certain aspects of the presentation of their games for DLSS to make a better fit.
I hoping they'd introduce texture reconstruction on switch2, but considering that death stranding has a lot of blurry flickering on the water in performance mode all the time, this probably isn't a good example. But I noticed that 2077 also suffers from texture loss in performance mode? I'm not sure, I need to find out if dlss has a solution in this place.
Texture quality loss can be due to a myriad if issues. For upscaling in particular, it could be due to improper mip bias or overly blurry TAA quality. Or a combination of many factors. No dlss implementation (or any taau implementation) fits all
What I'd like to know is if there's a way for the game development team to fix this by optimizing for the dlss environment.
theoretically yes. I don't know how death stranding handles mip/lod biasing when upscaling is turned on, so I'm unsure if that's something they properly accounted for.
Nah，I don't have any AA or anti-aliasing turned on.
that's probably your issue then, or at least part of it. TAA, in its many forms, blur the image. no real way to get around that other than an even higher output resolution
Yeah that's probably a guess, but I'm wondering if this blurring is a loss of texture or a loss of other elements?Because I've noticed that the textures still have the original detail when you look closely, it's just that there's a loss of dimensionality and lighting.Also I did have the ability to increase the output resolution, but I was testing the actual results the switch2 would produce running most games in docked mode, so I chose 1440p as a reference.
It will always depend on the game, texture reconstruction might not even arrive to old Nvidia generations so I wouldn't be counting on it personally. DLSS by itself will always blurry the image because that's the downside of upscaling, but high frequency detail like water and hair as you see is an easy target for flicker and artifacts. The textures themselves definitely aren't being downgraded when you enable DLSS, it's just a blurrier image as a whole giving off that impression.
Oh I see, so it's not a matter of texture loss, but blurring from anti-aliasing like TAA?
Yeah, in fact. DLSS encourages the usage of higher quality textures (as well as a higher output resolution) than usual so the upscaler has more detail available to claw back for the final image you see. Of course, on a little tablet like Switch 2 this has a cost the higher you go, this is why people always make clear it's not a free lunch for a device so small.
Well, it depends on whether people can accept the TAA blurring caused by the performance mode upgrade of 1440p, personally, if you're used to the native mode, going into performance mode will take some time to get used to as there seems to be a layer of fog on the whole screen, but then you actually go and compare and think that it's very hard to explain what's wrong except for those very noticeable losses such as the water surface flickering .
I am definitely aware current gen games only are faring much better at upscaling lately since they're being made around the tools in mind and are using newer versions of DLSS. If you don't mind some shimmering, you could try dialing up the sharpening slider to mitigate the blurriness a little bit, the temporal instability in the other hand (the "layer of fog" and high frequency artifacting) is what it is, it's gotten much better since Death Stranding's implementation for sure.
It's actually funny because doom etrenal under dlss you basically can't tell the difference from native, I mean unless you actually take a magnifying glass or put your face on the screen to look it up you really can't. I've upgraded the dlss version of death stranding to 3.5 though but that feeling of being shrouded in fog is still there.
Maybe there's something to be made about it changing the preset... Not sure how that works because I've never felt the need to do it, but DLSS actually has several presets baked in that behave differently, perhaps if you can find out how to change them for DS you might get better results by pure chance.
You can see a couple sets of comparison pictures I posted.
there's a whole quirky community of those that don't
there's a whole quirky community of those that don't
it's crazy what 30 years of rendering knowledge can do for old-hardware
hardware simply lasts longer. and Nintendo's games kept selling. this is why you're still seeing PS4 games come out despite being 4 years into the PS5. the hardware and software paradigm isn't moving in leaps and bounds anymore, so once your minimum is very good, it can go the distance
I don't think anything necessarily bad happened. Console generations are just longer in general now, with previous iterations of Xbox and Sony's console also being longer than usual at seven years. Combine that with Nintendo no longer having to concern themselves too much with getting new hardware to market at the same time as the competition (going up against mid-gen refreshes is a bit different than going up against completely new hardware) and the overall success of the Switch, and you have a Nintendo that can just take their time with getting their next system ready.
Sort of? In that, it shouldn't be much of a problem if things are done right, but there are things like ILikeFeet mentioned that can be done wrong to cause it to be. One of the better known is when a game doing something like "1080->4K" mode uses the version of a texture meant for 1080 rather than 4K. I don't know if Death Stranding is such a case, but it is some years old now so more likely that what should be common practices were missed at the time.
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I feel like this is largely coming down to personal preference on image sharpness. In the one picture the box looks a bit blurred to me, but in the other it looks unnaturally sharp to an even bigger degree.
I'll attach another set of comparisons, this one is probably even more obvious. The characters and environment are largely unaffected, but there's a real blur on the cargo box.
Boring answer, but: it's really up to the developer, how much effort they want to put into it, and which parts they think need the most improvement. Like comparing Xenoblade from Wii to Switch, some things look barely changed (aside from resolution), some things look like they got new textures, while others (like major characters at least) got totally redone models and textures. So turning a 3DS game into a Switch 2 game, any particular part of it could range from "high res 3DS" at the low end to "just like a Switch 2 game" at the high end.
Not saying this was the only reason, but it certainly helped.
Understand that with any temporal upscaler, it's going to have issues with such things like the rushing water there. It works off of the previous series of frames in sequence while using motion vectors to approximate the flow of the scene. Rushing water does very little to give the upscaler good information to work with because it is in a state of constant flux in no particular direction.
The top image is dlss performance, the bottom image is native, note the massive blurring and flickering of the water in the lower left corner and the loss of resolution and texture on the cargo box.
This is why I personally prefer native resolution vs DLSS. I think there's to much focus on this software feature in this thread. And I don't see every game using it on Switch 2. It would be nice to have it as a optional toggle for those who do want it and those who don't. I was critiqued for being not excited about DLSS and even considered it a detrimental effect. I do respect a good counter argument but the only counter argument I seen is better lighting and more lazy ports with less optimization. Id prefer wonderful ports with awesome optimization. I do understand that it's basically fancy AA. I usually turn AA, DOF, and motion blur off if I have the option.
Same order of comparison.You can notice that there is also a resolution drop in the snowflake texture on the ground.The decrease in texture on the stone is not noticeable .
