Er, nope.I don't believe we will get a reveal until January 25... "IF" it's releasing in March. If it's releasing later than that then maybe Feb-Mar reveal. Many you guys are going to be talking specs for a long time.
If they have such capacity. Their ninjas may be better than I feared!!!Er, nope.
Nintendo's not going to start mass production and also somehow keep that a secret for months.
This one is going into doomy doom dooms of doom with going into next fiscal doom.I don't believe we will get a reveal until January 25... "IF" it's releasing in March. If it's releasing later than that then maybe Feb-Mar reveal. Many you guys are going to be talking specs for a long time.
Okay. There was also people saying it wasn't realistic to expect the switch 2 to release in 2025 until these reports came out. Anything can happen to change plans. All i heard people say for the longest is Nintendo would announce a new console and mess up holiday sales of the current console. So when do you expect them to announce it "assuming" they don't want to mess up current holiday sales for switch?Yeah no. This isn't realistic at all.
There's already articles saying Switch 2 is slated for March 2025.Okay. There was also people saying it wasn't realistic to expect the switch 2 to release in 2025 until these reports came out. Anything can happen to change plans. All i heard people say for the longest is Nintendo would announce a new console and mess up holiday sales of the current console. So when do you expect them to announce it "assuming" they don't want to mess up current holiday sales for switch?
Nintendo doesn't care about messing up the holiday sales this year. Consoles are always announced long before they come out. Like that's not an opinion that's an actual fact.Okay. There was also people saying it wasn't realistic to expect the switch 2 to release in 2025 until these reports came out. Anything can happen to change plans. All i heard people say for the longest is Nintendo would announce a new console and mess up holiday sales of the current console. So when do you expect them to announce it "assuming" they don't want to mess up current holiday sales for switch?
OkayNintendo doesn't care about messing up the holiday sales this year. Consoles are always announced long before they come out. Like that's not an opinion that's an actual fact.
We will seeThere's already articles saying Switch 2 is slated for March 2025.
Anyone doing the slightest bit of due diligence during the holiday season will know it's around the corner.
Nintendo has to rip the band aid off. And if they don't, leakers will.
The strategy for not messing up holiday sales is via promotions. Either price drops, bundles, or other incentives.
Samsung Electronics, the world leader in advanced memory technology, today announced that it has started sampling its 256-gigabyte (GB)1 SD Express2 microSD card with sequential read speed of up to 800 megabytes per second (MB/s) and has commenced mass production of its 1-terabyte (TB)3 UHS-1 microSD card.
For the first time in the industry, Samsung introduced a new high-performance microSD card based on the SD Express interface. The development was the result of a successful collaboration with a customer to create a custom product.
Thanks to its low-power design as well as firmware technology optimized for high-performance and thermal management, Samsung’s SD Express microSD card offers performance equivalent to SSDs in a small form factor. While read speeds for traditional microSD cards based on the UHS-1 interface were limited to 104MB/s, SD Express was able to boost it to 985MB/s, although commercial availability of the latter were not viable in microSD cards until now.
You mean see if Furukawa lied to shareholders when he said those exact words?We will see
...Well, I guess that answers that.https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ce-ai?utm_source=nr_twitter&utm_medium=social
Now just who is this mysterious customer...
Trying to remember what read/write speeds was for Switch.https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ce-ai?utm_source=nr_twitter&utm_medium=social
Now just who is this mysterious customer...
Technically the card reader on Switch could hit 90-100MB/s, but with compressed game assets, it's more or less limited to the rate that the data goes through the CPU to decompress them (unless offloaded to RAM first if there's space?). But for Switch 2 and having hardware FDE, even at a rate of 800MB/s may be a non-issue. I do wonder just how much power would be required for the decompressor to decompress at a rate of 800MB/s input.Trying to remember what read/write speeds was for Switch.
100 MB/s? I know read speed is much more relevant here compared to write speeds (because game binaries get written to memory card once, and then read many times). If I recalled correctly, if those cards are for Nintendo Switch 2, then the read speeds would be around 8x faster
How would we expect this to compare to the read speeds of the internal storage of Switch 2?https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ce-ai?utm_source=nr_twitter&utm_medium=social
Now just who is this mysterious customer...
https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ce-ai?utm_source=nr_twitter&utm_medium=social
Now just who is this mysterious customer...
im think there is big chance for even LPPDR5X, since Switch 2 is March 2025I seriously think this unspecified customer is Nintendo. Like... everything lines up and this solves all the storage quandaries Nintendo would've been facing for Switch 2. Internally they'd use an UFS 3.1 + LPDDR5 uMCP from Samsung and for expanded storage, users can buy this microSD card and presumably other manufacturers will follow suit in the future.
Honestly, if Switch using 300MB/s eMMC is any indication, the Switch 2's internal storage is going to be faster than these mSD Express cards.How would we expect this to compare to the read speeds of the internal storage of Switch 2?
The 256GB SD Express microSD card will be made available for purchase later this year
SSD-Like speeds MicroSD. Kinda solves Switch 2 expansion cards.
Samsung’s New microSD Cards Bring High Performance and Capacity for the New Era in Mobile Computing and On-Device AI
Samsung samples industry-first 256GB SD Express microSD card boasting speeds more than four times faster than current interface Samsung’s 1TB UHS-1 microSD card in mass production based on latest V-NAND technologynews.samsung.com
The development was the result of a successful collaboration with a customer to create a custom product.
To ensure stable performance and reliability for the small form factor, Dynamic Thermal Guard (DTG) technology maintains the optimum temperature for the SD Express microSD card, even during long usage sessions.
No, we can't be totally sure of anything. But Nvidia tends to group their products on a few nodes. I believe 20 nm was also planned to have more products on it.Are we totally sure Samsung 5nm is out of the question? If that was the choice it would kind of mirror Tegra X1 being 20nm Maxwell while all other Maxwell GPUs were 28nm.
Nintendo's not going to wait two months before the console releases.
And no, I don't want to hear "but Holiday!", the whole thing would get leaked.
maybe the shadow drop it off at my house because i've been such a good boy
The Steam Deck uses an SSD.
This would give Nintendo their own equivalent while maintaining their current SD card approach.
Pretty smart.
Proprietary cards actually wasn't the only pitfall I had in mind. For one thing, there was one point where I was seriously considering the possibility that Nintendo would just keep around the current SD cards but as cold storage only.I mean, every expandable storage solution is okay as long as it's not a proprietary one like back with Vita.
Internally they'd use an UFS 3.1 + LPDDR5 uMCP from Samsung and for expanded storage, users can buy this microSD card and presumably other manufacturers will follow suit in the future.
I disagree.
I don't think Nintendo's new hardware's as area constrained as smartphones.
And I think heat's definitely a concern, especially if Nintendo's new hardware requires the RAM and the internal flash storage to run at very high frequencies for sustained periods of time, whereas smartphones probably have the RAM and the internal flash storage run at very high frequencies at very short bursts of time, similar to with the performance CPU cores on smartphone SoCs.
Gamers Nexus has shown that the LPDDR4 modules operate at very similar temperatures as the Tegra X1 on the Nintendo Switch, which is in the range of 59°C-60°C.
And on a bit of an off topic note, outside of using newer process nodes, there's no inherit power efficiency advantage of using LPDDR5X vs LPDDR5.
Apparently, but that hasn’t to be a problem, since Switch‘s internal storage is also 3 times faster than the normal SD card speed.So we're looking at decent sd card speeds but far superior speeds with ufs 3.1?
800MB/sec would probably work well for Nintendo possibly, that said what is going to be the price of these cards.
10 MB/s per frame more specifically. So at 30 FPS it requires 300MB/s. At 60, 600MB/s.From what I remember even the big UE5 Lumen in the Land of Nanite demo only really demanded about 300MB/s - well beyond HDD or microSD card speeds, but easily handled by most SSDs and these microSD express cards.
Hypothetically yes. But there's a possibility UFS 2.1 could be used, especially if Nintendo wants to offer 512 GB of internal flash storage at <$500.So we're looking at decent sd card speeds but far superior speeds with ufs 3.1?
Just to add context, the eMMC 4.1 on the launch Nintendo Switch has an actual sequential read speed of ~320 MB/s max, whereas microSD cards on the launch Nintendo Switch has an actual sequential read speed of ~96 MB/s max.Apparently, but that hasn’t to be a problem, since Switch‘s internal storage is also 3 times faster than the normal SD card speed.
10 MB/s per frame more specifically. So at 30 FPS it requires 300MB/s. At 60, 600MB/s.
quick, predict something about the switch 2 reveal in a few weeks!#TeamMicroSDExpress can't hold all these dubs, mayne
How likely is it that Nintendo is delaying Switch 2 due to emulation and piracy concerns?