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Discussion One Piece |ST| Over One Thousand Pieces (unmarked spoilers upon official chapter release)

Stumbled into some concept art!

Not sure if anyone here has seen, but thought it was worth sharing nonetheless:

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Pleanty more on the artists portfolio:
 
He seems to be against the idea of rushing to the end and compromising the story to shoehorn an ending faster. Honestly great attitude for this series and a nice thing to hear after all the demands from fans about cutting arcs.

Honestly id be fine if this series ended at Marinrford. Would be an amazing accomplishment to get all the way there.
 
He seems to be against the idea of rushing to the end and compromising the story to shoehorn an ending faster. Honestly great attitude for this series and a nice thing to hear after all the demands from fans about cutting arcs.

Honestly id be fine if this series ended at Marinrford. Would be an amazing accomplishment to get all the way there.
The original series was meant to only be 5 years long and Oda kept extending it when he came up with new ideas like the Warlords.

Maybe if things aren't looking too hot in a couple seasons, they can give us some of those original ideas for the ending, basically making the Live Action an adaption of what could have been if he stuck to his original plan...... especially if the actual manga has gotten to the ending or atleast the major reveals by then.

As it is now though, I'm glad they're taking their time and giving each arc its due without trying to blitz through the series. They can just take it one season at a time, making sure each is the best it can be. Cross bridges when they get to them
 
Id really like to avoid a GoT situation. Better to end on a strong cliffhanger than a rushed ending that comes out of nowhere. Pirate Warriors 3 did that and look how that mess turned out.

The manga is always there for the finale proper.
 
The original series was meant to only be 5 years long and Oda kept extending it when he came up with new ideas like the Warlords.

Maybe if things aren't looking too hot in a couple seasons, they can give us some of those original ideas for the ending, basically making the Live Action an adaption of what could have been if he stuck to his original plan...... especially if the actual manga has gotten to the ending or atleast the major reveals by then.

As it is now though, I'm glad they're taking their time and giving each arc its due without trying to blitz through the series. They can just take it one season at a time, making sure each is the best it can be. Cross bridges when they get to them
While it's true that the series was meant to be a lot shorter, I'm pretty sure the end would be about the same. The Warlords as a concept was thrown in (although I'm convinced Crocodile was originally a Yonkou, but that's baseless speculation), famously the Supernovas were designed super last minute with no concrete plan on their role etc, but I think he's got a skeleton beneath all this fleshing out that is being stuck to. We won't know for sure til years after the series is over though.
 
While it's true that the series was meant to be a lot shorter, I'm pretty sure the end would be about the same. The Warlords as a concept was thrown in (although I'm convinced Crocodile was originally a Yonkou, but that's baseless speculation), famously the Supernovas were designed super last minute with no concrete plan on their role etc, but I think he's got a skeleton beneath all this fleshing out that is being stuck to. We won't know for sure til years after the series is over though.
You mean the skeleton that showed up in his original sketch of the crew?

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Yohohohohohoho

But yes, you can see back in this original idea pretty much all the current crew is represented in some way - Robin is the only one that isn't really here, most likely because her joining the crew was a last minute decision and the original five year plan probably didn't have the whole mystery about the void century stuff.
 
You mean the skeleton that showed up in his original sketch of the crew?

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Yohohohohohoho

But yes, you can see back in this original idea pretty much all the current crew is represented in some way - Robin is the only one that isn't really here, most likely because her joining the crew was a last minute decision and the original five year plan probably didn't have the whole mystery about the void century stuff.
I'm convinced Skypeia had a lot of ideas that the original ending was going to use, based on what the manga is setting up now:

  • Island that's near impossible to get to except for the Strawhats and Roger pirates? Check
  • A lost treasure that motivated a centuries long conflict? Check
  • Flashback that took place hundreds of years ago, based on an unfulfilled promise? Check
  • "God" entity who rules with absolute power and has the ability to nuke any sign of dissent? Check
  • Luffy with lots of sun imagery and symbolism, and his fruit being revealed to be said "Gods" natural enemy? Check
  • Arc that follows it features the Strawhats going to war against the world goverment? Check

Lots of similar ideas to how the final saga could go down.

It wouldn't surprise me if, as the story and ideas developed, Oda utilized Skypeia as a "practice run" for his ending, and used it to plant the seeds of similar concepts on a far wider scale, (Void century etc) which is what we're currently witnessing in the final saga.
 
I'm convinced Skypeia had a lot of ideas that the original ending was going to use, based on what the manga is setting up now:

  • Island that's near impossible to get to except for the Strawhats and Roger pirates? Check
  • A lost treasure that motivated a centuries long conflict? Check
  • Flashback that took place hundreds of years ago, based on an unfulfilled promise? Check
  • "God" entity who rules with absolute power and has the ability to nuke any sign of dissent? Check
  • Luffy with lots of sun imagery and symbolism, and his fruit being revealed to be said "Gods" natural enemy? Check
  • Arc that follows it features the Strawhats going to war against the world goverment? Check

Lots of similar ideas to how the final saga could go down.

It wouldn't surprise me if, as the story and ideas developed, Oda utilized Skypeia as a "practice run" for his ending, and used it to plant the seeds of similar concepts on a far wider scale, (Void century etc) which is what we're currently witnessing in the final saga.
Full agree with you
 
Matt Ownes said:
You know how in the end of Pirate Warriors 3 they throw a bunch of Yonko stuff into Dressrosa and the final levels of the game? My intention is never to do that. I don't want to rush things or create a false ending of the show. When we know we are coming to an end, I hope to appropriately finish the story where we are and hope that people will pick up the anime or the manga to continue the journey.

That's an impressively deep cut. This series is in good hands.
 
Looks like the theory about the Elders having yokai-themes Fruits is true
Yeah, people figured out some of the demons from the silhouettes it seems. I like the theory that Imu is themed after the Umibozu:

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From Wikipedia:

Normally, umibōzu appears to sailors on calm seas which quickly turn tumultuous. It either breaks the ship on emergence or demands a bucket or barrel from the sailors and proceeds to drown them.
 
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Looks like the theory about the Elders having yokai-themes Fruits is true
Remember this arc introduced a chekov's gun in Lilith's bubble gun that can negate devil fruit powers. My guess is they'll hit Saturn with it and he won't untransform, confirming this isn't a DF but his actual form.
 
Remember this arc introduced a chekov's gun in Lilith's bubble gun that can negate devil fruit powers. My guess is they'll hit Saturn with it and he won't untransform, confirming this isn't a DF but his actual form.
Blowing my mind right now. They could be Devils, straight up.
 
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You mean the skeleton that showed up in his original sketch of the crew?

ovZAHsT8M9ku.png


Yohohohohohoho

But yes, you can see back in this original idea pretty much all the current crew is represented in some way - Robin is the only one that isn't really here, most likely because her joining the crew was a last minute decision and the original five year plan probably didn't have the whole mystery about the void century stuff.

I assume left to Luffy is supposed to be Jinbe, so right to Luffy is supposed to be Usopp?

Damn, dude looked like a small Blackbeard in that concept art.
 
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Yeah, people figured out some of the demons from the silhouettes it seems. I like the theory that Imu is themed after the Umibozu:

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From Wikipedia:

Normally, umibōzu appears to sailors on calm seas which quickly turn tumultuous. It either breaks the ship on emergence or demands a bucket or barrel from the sailors and proceeds to drown them.
Oh snap! I actually posted elsewhere a few months ago how I thought for sure Imu was going to be an Umibozu and gave some evidence too,

l'll repost it here:

- The myths of Umibozu already exist in One Piece. Ussop mistook Wadatsume for one, and we may even have seen a few in Thriller Bark. And As Vegapunk said.....if people belive in a concept, the concept can manifest itself as a fruit.

- While we havent seen Imus design, what he have seen so far looks similar to many depections of Umibozu. The creatures at the end of thriller bark are thought to be Umibozu, which resemble how Imu has been shown. All blacked out with the only distinct feature being the eyes, some depections even giving them red eyes like we know Imu has from the anime.

- Imu refers to himself as "MU", which translations pointed out could mean dream or void...but could also refrence the Lost City of Mu, a mythologial lost city said to be another name or equiviant for Atlantis. Mu just happens to be the setting of many HP Lovecraft stories featuring eldritch beings like Cthuhulu and other cosmic horror beings which all have similar themes/ideas to depections of the Umibozu.

- The world Umibozu means "Sea Preist", which ties into the religious/god theming of the Celestial Dragons (For example...Gods Knights)

- An Umibozu is capable of "turning calm seas tumultous"...which is exactly what Imu just did! Causing flooding and earthquakes and rising sea levels all across the world by destroying Lulucia

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I like the idea so I'm glad to see it may actually happen after the latest chapter
 
I've been waiting for this flashback to begin for over a decade.

I'm inconsolable, it's so painful. I can't wait for the next chapter.
 
I think it's interesting how the Celestial Dragons are one of the few antagonists that are consistently portrayed as pure evil so far. :D
 
I think it's interesting how the Celestial Dragons are one of the few antagonists that are consistently portrayed as pure evil so far. :D
I'm curious if it means anything that it's possible for them to wake up and make amends, since we've seen every Donquixote (except the one...) do that
 
It's so interesting to me how every time I reread One Piece, I like it more.

I went from not liking it at all, to thinking it is mildly entertaining, to thinking "oh, okay, I guess I understand why people are so hyped about this", to thinking "this shit is amazing from the start, how come I didn't like it before".

I think the humor takes a while to fully click, but once it does, it's hysterical (kinda like my experience with Seinfeld), and the fact that the worldbuilding only gets crazier and crazier, you also grow appreciation for past arcs that at first seemed smaller and self contained but now are pieces on a grand, delicate mechanism.

I had only previously read until Fishmen's Island, can't wait to catch up with the 30+ volumes that came out since.
 
Trying to find a good version of the One Piece dub that's available in the UK feels like trying to find the One Piece itself. Exhausting.
 
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First look at a new volume cover just dropped. Should cover chapters 1077-1085

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Pretty cool. It was probably tough to figure out since the chapters jumped around a lot. Still think the previous cover (Volume 106) is one of the best he's ever done.
 
I was completely wrong about One Pace versions of Arabasta being done this year. For some reason they're releasing Skypiea and Water 7 despite still missing ~6 eps of Arabasta.
I kinda get it, of the 3 Alabasta has the best pacing in the original anime. It's the arc that least needs to be reedited. Personally, the most annoying thing is they don't have Syrup Village and Whiskey Peak dubs yet. Obviously there's a lot of the series they need to edit the dub in, but for my rewatch using One Pace thanks to the netflix show hype, having to deal with odd dub gaps is annoying.
 
Rewatching Thriller Bark uneditted, there are so many problems with this (anime) arc outside of of the pacing. In the manga, Thriller Bark at least tried to come across as a semi-scary at points, but a lot of that is ruined by frankly awful animation and music choices.

There's this one track they reuse over and over again during the slow moments and it grates how annoying it is while not even being close to spooky or intidimating.

And then there's the early zombie meetings, that are just ruined by lack of spookyness, like the contrast between the strong and weak group.
 
I was completely wrong about One Pace versions of Arabasta being done this year. For some reason they're releasing Skypiea and Water 7 despite still missing ~6 eps of Arabasta.
does that mean Skypiea and Water 7 will be finished? Wasn’t sure how many episodes they have left.
 
I kinda get it, of the 3 Alabasta has the best pacing in the original anime. It's the arc that least needs to be reedited. Personally, the most annoying thing is they don't have Syrup Village and Whiskey Peak dubs yet. Obviously there's a lot of the series they need to edit the dub in, but for my rewatch using One Pace thanks to the netflix show hype, having to deal with odd dub gaps is annoying.
Oh yeah, it's "only" 10 episodes of regular One Piece you'd have to watch of Arabasta if you caught up to the newest One Pace episode so it's not that bad. I just thought they might want to finish it first because it's a relatively small gap and then they'd be done with everything up to and with Jaya.

I honestly didn't even realize that they also released the dubs lol.

does that mean Skypiea and Water 7 will be finished? Wasn’t sure how many episodes they have left.
Skypiea still has 16 episodes left so there's no chance they will be done this year at their current pace. Water 7 is only missing 6 episodes so they could manage if they prioritize it but I don't think they will.
 
So, how about that new chapter?

Young Kuma is just the sweetest guy.

And Dragon was a marine. Id love to see the falling out he had with Garp.
 
Something fun I did in my spare time:
Ranking each of the Emperors, by how close the are to finding the One Piece!

Just as a recap, there's the locations of the 4 Road Ponegylphs:
1 in Zou, 1 in Wano, 1 in Whole Cake, and 1 held by a mysterious "Man Marked By Flames"

1) Blackbeard - He probably has 3 road ponegylphs (The Whole Cake one which he probably just stole when he kidnapped Pudding, and the Zou and Wano ones which he stole from Law. He doesnt know who the Man Marked By Flames is, but so far he knows the most to go off of (knowing about his ship and power) and has a vast information network across the new world. Plus with Pudding, he now has an avenue to read them. This puts him just one step away from the goal.

2) Luffy - Has 3 Road Ponegylphs, but no indication where to find the 4th. Unlike the other Emperors, he has no information network so his only shot is to stumble into the 4th by chance, or be told its location before the others find out. He better figure it out quick, but we all know he'll succeed in the end somehow!

3) Shanks - He already has 2. The Whole Cake and Wano Ponegylphs which he just got from destroying Kidd. . His time on the Roger pirates gave him good relations with Momonosuke and Inuarashi/Nekomamushi so he's possibly in a position to aquire the Zou one without a fight. However, he'll actually have to find Zou which is allegedly impossible if you dont have a Vivre Card (Luffy and Law were only able to because of Bepo). So his information network will have to work double time finding Zou and the Man Marked By Flames. And unlike Luffy and Blackbeard, he has no way to actually read them

4) Buggy - He just started, so he's in last place, BUT since Whole Cake is in chaos, he can swoop in and claim that one easily. Like with Shanks, he can possibly be in a position to aquire both the Zou and Wano ponegylphs without a fight. He still has to locate Zou too, but he could easily upset the competition and be the closest one very quickly! Still cant read them tho.

5) Big Mom - Out of the Game. But hey, she's acually in Wano right now, so if she's alive, and if she wakes up before Kaido does, she can atleast steal his and have 2, and her crew is not totally decimated, just in shambles which can recover

6) Kaido - Out of the Game. Since he was beaten in Wano he's no closer to finding the others. Even if he did wake up, his crew is decimated and imprisoned, and Wano is now out of his control.

7) Whitebeard - Dead. RIP to the GOAT.
 
Absolutely. He’s stumble into an admiral and somehow knock them out on the way, too.
I've been really hoping he gets Weevil on his side, and they have this Hercule/Majin Buu type dynamic where he just worships Buggy and destroys everything that stands in his way, to the hooro of everyone around him.
 
I don't know if anyone in here is into the TCG, but this is cute
 
Latest chapter:

Man, Kuma's probably the OP character that had to go through the most shit so far. Poor guy.
 
I have no idea what Oda is cooking with Garp and Dragon.

He definitely doesn't aim to make them look like that, but in recent chapters they definitely look like bums who let shit happen.

Garp chilling on vacation while the CD are doing some genocide for fun (how can he still believe in the Marines after that lmao), and Dragon not trying to do anything about Ginny being kidnapped... While just a few years ago, Fisher Tiger went ALONE on Marie Joie and freed all the slaves.

Makes Dragon looks even more lame because last chapter he told Kuma and Ginny "YOU WON'T REGRET JOINING US" lmao

Dragon is one of the most intriguing characters of the manga for me ever since his first appearance. But between this and the recent weird "oh the news which is very often relaying WG propaganda shit says that Sabo killed a WG king, I won't forgive him if true", I'm not very pleased with Dragon's characterization.
And even then if it was actually true... Yeah he killed a WG king, so what ? Ain't you guys the Revolutionary Army ? Ain't it what you're doing to kill those rich World Government puppets ? Sabo could have had his reasons, but Dragon immediately said "I won't forgive him" without trying to understand, if it ended up being true (which, again, was always a ridiculous statement coming from him. Luffy would have never doubted his nakamas for instance).
 
I have no idea what Oda is cooking with Garp and Dragon.

He definitely doesn't aim to make them look like that, but in recent chapters they definitely look like bums who let shit happen.

Garp chilling on vacation while the CD are doing some genocide for fun (how can he still believe in the Marines after that lmao), and Dragon not trying to do anything about Ginny being kidnapped... While just a few years ago, Fisher Tiger went ALONE on Marie Joie and freed all the slaves.

Makes Dragon looks even more lame because last chapter he told Kuma and Ginny "YOU WON'T REGRET JOINING US" lmao

Dragon is one of the most intriguing characters of the manga for me ever since his first appearance. But between this and the recent weird "oh the news which is very often relaying WG propaganda shit says that Sabo killed a WG king, I won't forgive him if true", I'm not very pleased with Dragon's characterization.
And even then if it was actually true... Yeah he killed a WG king, so what ? Ain't you guys the Revolutionary Army ? Ain't it what you're doing to kill those rich World Government puppets ? Sabo could have had his reasons, but Dragon immediately said "I won't forgive him" without trying to understand, if it ended up being true (which, again, was always a ridiculous statement coming from him. Luffy would have never doubted his nakamas for instance).
I think Oda wants to characterize the kings of the world as "separate" from the really bad parts of the World Government. A lot of the country heads the characters run into are well meaning and care for their citizens, or even oppose the WG's harsh rule. I agree though that it's muddled and I'm not really sure where Oda is taking his characterization (especially given that he's based on Fidel Castro, who wouldn't think twice about committing such an act). But also it's a shonen manga and Oda has always portrayed the heroic characters as not seeking to kill their enemies.

Garp has always been a bum though really, good cop who thinks he can change the system from within. Pretty realistic I would say.
 


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