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Pre-Release The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Pre-Release Discussion Thread

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Someone recreated the Ganondorf voice from the trailer in AI and applied it to OoT Ganondorf. True 90's anime villain dub energy lol
 
Sunday will mark the final 60 days, 2 months, before the game's release.

From there Nintendo is probably gonna start being more aggressive with the marketing.
 
BY2K said:
Sunday will mark the final 60 days, 2 months, before the game's release.

From there Nintendo is probably gonna start being more aggressive with the marketing.
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I hope! If Nintendo doesn't give us something this week, then me thinks we won't get anything until after the Mario movie premieres.
 
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Idk, those things go up pretty damn high from what we've seen

If the underworld goes that deep I'm not sure how you even handle a world of that size
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Absolutely. People are sleeping on the sky islands because when you factor in that...

1.) They are in the sky and thus appear smaller than they really are.
2.) Many of them are tightly packed together so that they overlap.
3.) Many of them seem to have elaborate interiors (I can't go too far here in the non-spoiler thread but I don't think this is something that we weren't already expecting).

...the overall explorable area of the sky islands will be far greater than you'd might expect. I was just combing through some screenshots the other day and noticed a shot with various islands over the Great Plateau.

It's hard to imagine, but trying to see them all combined together into one landmass, they easily represent half of the surface area of the Great Plateau. And that's just one grouping of them.

 
Well at least they keep saying MAY 12TH MAY 12TH MAY 12TH so at least chances are big it's actually coming out then. Otherwise I wouldn't be so sure.

This level of secrecy is a little silly though :p .
 
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Well at least they keep saying MAY 12TH MAY 12TH MAY 12TH so at least chances are big it's actually coming out then. Otherwise I wouldn't be so sure.

This level of secrecy is a little silly though :p .
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I like it. The more blind I get into the game without actually having to avoid trailers and whatnot, the better.
 
manfromthedam said:
Well at least they keep saying MAY 12TH MAY 12TH MAY 12TH so at least chances are big it's actually coming out then. Otherwise I wouldn't be so sure.

This level of secrecy is a little silly though :p .
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I wonder if they will wait weeks after the Mario movie airs before starting marketing for Zelda? Maybe late April...
 
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I hope Nintendo gives us a full answer to the most intriguing question right now: will the adventure also take place in the skies of Hyrule?
 
April through March will be a huge time for Nintendo. Mario movie blitz right into TOTK blowout.

I do think it’ll be quite funny to look back on complaints about the marketing in like a month.

But yeah, I’m ready for a fun 2 months of Nintendo in the general public spotlight :) will be a neat time to be a fan
 
Ok, maybe this is in the art book, but the strange patterns we see everywhere on the ToTK website seem to all be stone patterns. The 2nd trailer shows a hut with a floor that has ripples in its stone, the 3rd trailer shows these squares on either side of the ground, in the hallway behind the large door Link pushes open, and the word symbols that make an almost make like pattern seem to be literally in the sky islands ground (see the symbols right beneath Link in the cover art).
 
Phendrift said:
April through March will be a huge time for Nintendo. Mario movie blitz right into TOTK blowout.

I do think it’ll be quite funny to look back on complaints about the marketing in like a month.

But yeah, I’m ready for a fun 2 months of Nintendo in the general public spotlight :) will be a neat time to be a fan
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Yes it will be an exciting time. Ill be watching the movie early-mid April and then impatiently wait for TOTK the last month. Kind of wish the game released right at May 1st
 
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Ok, maybe this is in the art book, but the strange patterns we see everywhere on the ToTK website seem to all be stone patterns. The 2nd trailer shows a hut with a floor that has ripples in its stone, the 3rd trailer shows these squares on either side of the ground, in the hallway behind the large door Link pushes open, and the word symbols that make an almost make like pattern seem to be literally in the sky islands ground (see the symbols right beneath Link in the cover art).
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You should join /r/totklang, though I'm unsure if they mark spoilers
 
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I really hope that they show a trailer this month or the next that'll help me understand why it's more than just BotW2

Also if Zelda is relegated to a minor role again I'm defo gonna be a hater
 
Dusa said:
Man

I really hope that they show a trailer this month or the next that'll help me understand why it's more than just BotW2

Also if Zelda is relegated to a minor role again I'm defo gonna be a hater
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I'm feeling 90% certain that she's gonna fall down a hole, give Link a magic arm, and need to be rescued from Ganondorf at the end of the game.
 
They wouldn't even let Zelda age in Breath of the Wild over the course of 100 years, I can't imagine they're gonna throw weird body horror at us with her.
 
Not vibing with the pessimistic takes. Don't see the point of Zelda holding the Sheikah Switch in new artwork without more involvement on that front. BotW artwork depicted her with the slate because she had those in flashbacks, I don't think this is the case here. This iteration of Zelda is the curious researcher of ancient artifacts and it is a waste to not leverage that character in a game featuring a previously unknown ancient civilization in a kingdom that needs rebuilding. This is a good opportunity as a direct sequel to explore this more and have new spins on old concepts. If I look stupid for having a little faith, then whatever.
 
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Not vibing with the pessimistic takes. Don't see the point of Zelda holding the Sheikah Switch in new artwork without more involvement on that front. BotW artwork depicted her with the slate because she had those in flashbacks, I don't think this is the case here. This iteration of Zelda is the curious researcher of ancient artifacts and it is a waste to not leverage that character in a game featuring a previously unknown ancient civilization. This is a good opportunity as a direct sequel to explore this more. If I look stupid for having a little faith, then whatever.
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Hard for me to not be pessimistic when this team has let me down so often before. Sorry for not vibing, but I don't think it's unwarranted!
 
Clov said:
Sorry for not vibing, but I don't think it's unwarranted!
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Didn't say it was, I am just choosing to believe in an alternative outcome, because Zelda falling into a hole and doing nothing is boring and even less than she did in SS, and unlike BotW there's no 100 year old flashbacks to flesh her out.

Presumably it's Zelda's curiosity leading from the true ending of BotW that led to them investigating the Zonai ruins, if this isn't developed on then it's a bewildering waste of a good premise. We'll see.
 
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In my opinion, pessimism, and a new mainline Zelda, are complete opposites.
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Hardly! Not every mainline Zelda has turned out good, for one. But more importantly, a mainline Zelda can be great in some aspects but lacking in others. BotW was fun to play, it had a wonderful open world with lots of fun things to do, and creative ways to approach problems. But it also had Zelda as a damsel yet again, and a pretty pathetic transphobic gag.

I'm sure TotK will have many fun, silly things for me to do! But I am not confident the team has learned the right lessons in terms of some of the biggest flaws of BotW. At least from what we have seen so far, nothing has lead me to believe that Zelda will be anything but a damsel in distress. I'd love to be proven wrong! But do Aonuma and others on the team even care?
 
Dusa said:
I'm more pessimistic, she's gonna get Bionic Commandoed
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I'm afraid to ask, but what does "Bionic Commando" mean in this context

Clov said:
Hardly! Not every mainline Zelda has turned out good, for one. But more importantly, a mainline Zelda can be great in some aspects but lacking in others. BotW was fun to play, it had a wonderful open world with lots of fun things to do, and creative ways to approach problems. But it also had Zelda as a damsel yet again, and a pretty pathetic transphobic gag.

I'm sure TotK will have many fun, silly things for me to do! But I am not confident the team has learned the right lessons in terms of some of the biggest flaws of BotW. At least from what we have seen so far, nothing has lead me to believe that Zelda will be anything but a damsel in distress. I'd love to be proven wrong! But do Aonuma and others on the team even care?
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It's weird that suddenly Zelda is an unimpeachable series like it hasn't had multiple polarizing titles over the years. It's a great series, but also has had some serious missteps to say the least, and as you touch on even the better games are often prone to having issues. I definitely have zero confidence Zelda will get any notable agency in these games anytime soon.
 
Mekanos said:
I'm afraid to ask, but what does "Bionic Commando" mean in this context


It's weird that suddenly Zelda is an unimpeachable series like it hasn't had multiple polarizing titles over the years. It's a great series, but also has had some serious missteps to say the least, and as you touch on even the better games are often prone to having issues. I definitely have zero confidence Zelda will get any notable agency in these games anytime soon.
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Zelda is one of the most consistently high-quality gaming series that exists imo. Of course it has had some missteps, but overall it’s been WAY more good then bad.
 
Mekanos said:
I'm afraid to ask, but what does "Bionic Commando" mean in this context


It's weird that suddenly Zelda is an unimpeachable series like it hasn't had multiple polarizing titles over the years. It's a great series, but also has had some serious missteps to say the least, and as you touch on even the better games are often prone to having issues. I definitely have zero confidence Zelda will get any notable agency in these games anytime soon.
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Bionic Commando 2009, the big plot twist is that the protagonist's wife is in his arm
 
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I think we'll be able to phase into the ground and then start freefalling into an underground area. But we'll be impacted by wind - or lack thereof. Link's expanded moveset is going to be so fun to play around with. BotW is one of the most tactile games I've ever played. This is one of my favorite game engines ever.
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Ikr, the expanded moveset in the patent already looks so fun to play around with, Nintendo still trying to hide the aerial combat scene from trailers makes it even more exciting.

I don't know about the "phase into the ground" part tho since the patent indicates that ability is only for the upward movement, that's why I think phasing ability could be a great way for players to "escape" the underworld conveniently rather than "entering" the underworld. The stalactites will prevent players from abusing this ability tho, since players cannot use it in that case according to the patent.
 
NabiscoFelt said:
Idk, those things go up pretty damn high from what we've seen

If the underworld goes that deep I'm not sure how you even handle a world of that size
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I'm not saying that the entire underworld goes that deep, just like not every sky island goes as high as the highest one. I'm just saying that "some areas" of the underworld may go that deep allowing players to fully utilize new game mechanics such as flying vehicles and skydiving with aerial combat moveset.
 
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Maybe this topic has been beaten to death but what people expecting in regards to further promotions for TotK?

Originally I thought they’d do a big Zelda Direct in March or April before previews and then reviews came out by media at the start of May.

But now, I’m thinking they might not do a Direct since this is the sequel to one of the best selling and highest reviewed games of this generation. Plus, it’s already got enough hype as the most anticipated game this year. They don’t really need to reveal anything else to convince people to buy it.

So, now I’m thinking they’ll get review codes out by beginning of April, we’ll see some limited previews late April, reviews in May, and then release and that’s it. YouTube, social, and media outlets will do all the promo and hype for Nintendo. No Direct needed.
 
TheSentry said:
Maybe this topic has been beaten to death but what people expecting in regards to further promotions for TotK?

Originally I thought they’d do a big Zelda Direct in March or April before previews and then reviews came out by media at the start of May.

But now, I’m thinking they might not do a Direct since this is the sequel to one of the best selling and highest reviewed games of this generation. Plus, it’s already got enough hype as the most anticipated game this year. They don’t really need to reveal anything else to convince people to buy it.

So, now I’m thinking they’ll get review codes out by beginning of April, we’ll see some limited previews late April, reviews in May, and then release and that’s it. YouTube, social, and media outlets will do all the promo and hype for Nintendo. No Direct needed.
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I agree that ToTK don't needs its own direct, but Im sure we will get our epic trailer #3 this month alongside the announcement of the ZOLED.
The Splatoon Switch Oled was announced 2 months before the realese of the game, we should get news about ToTK as soon as next week.
 
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Zelda is one of the most consistently high-quality gaming series that exists imo. Of course it has had some missteps, but overall it’s been WAY more good then bad.
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Yeah, maybe I'm just easy to please but I've loved every single Zelda game, only with some nitpicks here and there. It's possibly the only long-running series I can say that about, the only others that come to mind are Metroid (but that has stuff like Federation Force and Other M, which I haven't played to judge) and Final Fantasy, which I could maybe say that about before FF15 happened.
 
you know, I actually kind of hope Nintendo doesn’t send any review copies before launch. Lets the game speak for itself. I think that it really affected Metroid Prime Remastered reviews positively. You cannot possibly concern troll over ”Nintendos aging hardware” when people get their hands on the game and are loving it. I think that it positively affected Metroid Prime Remastered sales.

Zelda is a game that really don’t need reviews too.
 
Lozjam said:
Zelda is a game that really don’t need reviews too.
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Huh? I don't even read game reviews, but I can't say I understand this perspective at all. It seems to me that any given Zelda game can have plenty of different elements that could be talked about in a review, perhaps influencing people on the fence one way or the other. Why wouldn't Zelda games need reviews?
 
Clov said:
Huh? I don't even read game reviews, but I can't say I understand this perspective at all. It seems to me that any given Zelda game can have plenty of different elements that could be talked about in a review, perhaps influencing people on the fence one way or the other. Why wouldn't Zelda games need reviews?
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Because it is a sequel to the most critically acclaimed game in the modern age, and the Sequel to one of the best selling games of all time. Breath of the Wild definitely needed reviews because it was a massive shakeup on a new console. However, everything about TotK is kind of a known entity.
 
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Because it is a sequel to the most critically acclaimed game in the modern age, and the Sequel to one of the best selling games of all time. Breath of the Wild definitely needed reviews because it was a massive shakeup on a new console. However, everything about TotK is kind of a known entity.
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I don't think any of that means that it doesn't need a review. And if it truly doesn't, that doesn't speak well in its favor! You might as well be saying "Well, it's just Breath of the Wild again". Surely there's more to the game than what we've seen?
 
SammyJ9 said:
Yeah, maybe I'm just easy to please but I've loved every single Zelda game, only with some nitpicks here and there. It's possibly the only long-running series I can say that about, the only others that come to mind are Metroid (but that has stuff like Federation Force and Other M, which I haven't played to judge) and Final Fantasy, which I could maybe say that about before FF15 happened.
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I can’t say I’ve LOVED every game in any series, especially one with well over a dozen core entries. And definitely not one with games like Wind Waker or Phantom Hourglass.

Regardless, I just think it’s weird to be like “well it’s Zelda, of course it’ll be great” when we had games like Skyward Sword which was such a misfire they completely rethought the way they make Zelda games (and I say this as someone who likes the game).

Honestly I think the 3D Mario team is the most reliable team at Nintendo, but that’s neither here or there. I just find a lot of discussion weird about this game how it’s basically “it’s the sequel to the Best Game Ever” and that’s all we need to get hyped. And I thought BOTW was great but there’s a lot that can go wrong in a game, even when it’s a world class dev like EPD (and a lot of issues that a sequel needs to address since it isn’t the first time around anymore).
 
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I can’t say I’ve LOVED every game in any series, especially one with well over a dozen core entries. And definitely not one with games like Wind Waker or Phantom Hourglass.

Regardless, I just think it’s weird to be like “well it’s Zelda, of course it’ll be great” when we had games like Skyward Sword which was such a misfire they completely rethought the way they make Zelda games (and I say this as someone who likes the game).

Honestly I think the 3D Mario team is the most reliable team at Nintendo, but that’s neither here or there. I just find a lot of discussion weird about this game how it’s basically “it’s the sequel to the Best Game Ever” and that’s all we need to get hyped. And I thought BOTW was great but there’s a lot that can go wrong in a game, even when it’s a world class dev like EPD (and a lot of issues that a sequel needs to address since it isn’t the first time around anymore.”
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I definitely have some worries about it, given what we've seen (mostly due to marketing and what kind of game it might be based on that marketing shown), so I'm not saying that we should just brush aside our worries and lean on 'well it'll be great by default because it's Zelda/the sequel to BOTW'. It's absolutely okay to have those thoughts and concerns.

BUT for me, personally, despite me feeling a little nervous and worried about it, I kind of do have that trust in the team. I have quite literally loved every single 3D Zelda game, full stop, and pretty much every mainline Zelda game (caveat being I haven't played the DS ones). My least favorite Zelda is probably Link Between Worlds, and that's still like... an 8.5/10 or 9/10 game for me, lol. That's how highly I rate them all.
 
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I don't think any of that means that it doesn't need a review. And if it truly doesn't, that doesn't speak well in its favor! You might as well be saying "Well, it's just Breath of the Wild again". Surely there's more to the game than what we've seen?
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The reason why companies do early reviews is for exposure, it’s not out of the goodness of their hearts. Basically to get people to play a game. But honestly, with the original Breath of the Wild, it was so heavily talked about, and dominated gaming discussion for 6 years, they don’t need reviewers to advertise for them. If TotK is even half the game that BotW, it probably is better to not do reviews for that natural sense of discovery. Thats probably way better marketing than the old way.

The majority of people are probably completely sold on TotK, it’s already one of the best selling games 2023 with preorders alone.

I think giving everyone equal footing is actually a far better marketing strategy too. One of the strengths of BotW was the community behind it, and the constant forms of discovery. Press really didn’t get to be a part of that, but it definitely enhances the experience.
 
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