I don't want to harp on this, but I have seen comments, particularly back in the old place, that were extremely ignorant about Vtubers to the point of offensive. (Ex: "All vtubers look like kids", "All vtubers are grown women sounding and acting like children".)
I'm not saying you're doing that, but as someone that enjoys a pretty broad swath of Vtubers, I just wish there was more thought in commentary around them in general.
Oh, okay then. Its another subgenre with its subgenres, there is a point where it gets ridiculous (im not saying vtubing is that level), but if somebody likes it, everybody is with conscent, and nobody feels entitles to anything, who am i to judge.
Its kinda like talking about furies, metalheads or ambient fans.
I listened to my fair share of metal, i know how different pagan from power from post from doom from stoner from alternative metal is... but if you ask a person to describe a metalhead, there is a high chance that the description will describe a trope.
And as someone who has half of his friend circle either current or former metalheads... yeah, the avrage metalhead is that way. at least here. Does not mean there isnt more nuance. I would never say "you like metalica or evanesence? then you will like meshuggah or heilung.
Im into ambient, and while basinsky and hecker are great, im aware that the generall asumption of ambient is long slow piano pieces/loops, or pads with maaaybe some field recording of birds mixed in.
And also, sometimes people in a subculture loose perspective.
How some fans of more abrasive music experience it, they see stuff as soft and pop where the average radio listener would be "help, whats this, sounds like its straight out of hell".
With anime (and to an extend vtubing) i feel the "how old does a character look" question will more often then not be answered older then the offline world none anime/vtube person would say.
Sorry, i rambled. What i wanted to say: it is for shure a diverse field, but the front thats represented to the mainstream seems rather joung overall, some like a child, some like teenagers. not all obviously.
Thats what i compared it to, because of the bright colors, strong outline, soft faces, and that VTubers are also (usually) 3D models emulating anime style.
on a lighter note, don’t forget the toilet seat armour
...what? i feel like i missed something there =O an important piece of culture?
Exactly, that’s the problem. Anime is variations on a theme and there aren’t really good ways to describe the difference between them. So folks are like “what do you mean it’s too anime, it’s always anime” and the discussions go south from there.
My post wasn’t about you btw, it’s just something that generally trips up discussion.
Oh for shure. Its hard, the finer the details get. My example up there with metal... starting to get into the sub sub genres feels like... how is it possible that those 2 records that sound almost the same are 2 different genres, but then that band had 2 completly different sounding records, and its still the same genre. At some point the specificity of labels cant really provide value in the discourse. same as discussing 2 white tones 2 shades appart in the context of bright red, blue, neon green and black doesnt really make sense, while it being combined with almost white pstel colors where it can make a huge differece.