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StarTopic Nintendo Direct Speculation |ST2| Fami's Summer Gameguess

When will the next Direct air?

  • It's going to be in May! cHaOs!

    Votes: 11 4.3%

  • Patterns, man. 14th of June, 2022. The usual.

    Votes: 211 81.8%

  • Nintendo will be weird again, early July.

    Votes: 23 8.9%

  • Nintendo's Twitter Direct's will be the norm, Septermber 2022.

    Votes: 6 2.3%

  • Geoff the Summerman will add it to Summer Gamefest

    Votes: 7 2.7%
  • Total voters
    258
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Dark Cloud said:
You have to look at it from Nate’s perspective. Don’t you think he also wants a big General Direct??? He plays games too. He’s a huge Nintendo fan like the rest of us. I’m sure he doesn’t want to believe from what his sources was telling him that we were getting a partners direct of all things.

Towards the beginning he seemed more hopeful and kind of pointed towards a general. As we got closer he definitely became more weary. He was becoming more open minded to Mini or Partner. And I told people to now open your minds after I saw Nate started to waffle. Because he probably got new info and nothing was pointing to anything big as a general direct.
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Nate is just a voice without a body. I don’t think he can play videogames he just talk about them
 
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LukasManak22 said:
What if on Tuesday there is nothing at all? Due to recent events in US.
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this is a possibility too, and frankly it's probably the funniest

"I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" the Direct continues to insist as it shrinks and transforms from an E3 replacement to a general to a Partner to nothing
 
NateDrake said:
If the Direct I have knowledge of is a Mini... then they should use a different term.
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I hope you don't mind me bothering you but is this post still accurate? There seems to be a lot of doom and gloom around here at the moment but even if it's third party only it sounds like it could still be pretty full? Should we be expecting a fairly long partner showcase?
 
Raccoon said:
this is a possibility too, and frankly it's probably the funniest

"I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" the Direct continues to insist as it shrinks and transforms from an E3 replacement to a general to a Partner to nothing
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All I need is Splatoon something, it's simple as that. I would trade Splatoon Direct over Partner.
 
To be fair Nintendo always have a Holiday period game that is NOT Pokemon

The only once that film the bill for now are new Fire Emblem and Prime HD bacuse they are finished
 
Thunder84 said:
I didn’t think of Luigi’s Mansion or Hyrule Warriors as holiday games either, but Nintendo still went with both. They just like to have something on shelves alongside Pokémon, and I think Metroid Prime HD fills that need. Plus, the anniversary lines up nicely.

I could also see them doing a Zelda collection though. The important thing is that, while it won’t be a blockbuster, I still think Nintendo is gonna have something else in store.
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Mario + Rabbids, Splatoon and Bayonetta will be on shelves alongside Pokemon.

Granted, I also think Prime will release this year, but they surely have other big games out for the holiday timeframe.
 
NateDrake said:
If the Direct I have knowledge of is a Mini... then they should use a different term.
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Kingpin Rogers said:
I hope you don't mind me bothering you but is this post still accurate? There seems to be a lot of doom and gloom around here at the moment but even if it's third party only it sounds like it could still be pretty full? Should we be expecting a fairly long partner showcase?
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I know it’s only a matter if time but I’m curious about this too.
 
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Kingpin Rogers said:
I hope you don't mind me bothering you but is this post still accurate? There seems to be a lot of doom and gloom around here at the moment but even if it's third party only it sounds like it could still be pretty full? Should we be expecting a fairly long partner showcase?
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I am begging you all to consider the possibility that he doesn't know
 
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Raccoon said:
I am once again advocating for nationalized US rail in this time of unprecedented thread viewership
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9-Volt said:
Automotive lobby is as powerful as NRA. Good luck with that.
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I got an idea...

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Samus95 said:
To be fair Nintendo always have a Holiday period game that is NOT Pokemon

The only once that film the bill for now are new Fire Emblem and Prime HD bacuse they are finished
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They didn't last year

Closest thing they had was Metroid Dread, and that came out in October and wasn't a super big release
 
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Personally I think it's going to be a Jump Rope Challenge direct, featuring Jump Rope Challenge 2: Revenge, Jump Rope Challenge Picross, and Jump Rope Challenge VR. The Jump Rope Challenge Nintendo 2DS will also be announced for $999.99
 
KC Hazel said:
To be fair, Nate always said he's unaware of what type of Direct it would be, but speculated it wouldn't be a smaller one because he had no reason to believe that at the time.

If people are going to hang onto his every word, then they need to be able to separate what he's reporting from a source and when he's just giving his opinion. As part of this community, he should be able to have fun and speculate with the rest of us without it coming back to haunt him if he's wrong. He's made it very clear that he was unsure the type of Direct.
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I think in the absence of information, it should be okay to just say you don't know. If Nate had definitive information that there was a general direct, and then that changed, then I would understand why he was reinforcing what was said. However, I'm pretty sure he's implied that the information on his end was on the third party side of things, which is in no way a guarantee or even indicator of a general.

That's why in my post I talked about it being fun to have inside information and engage in leak culture. If he wants to assume it's going to be a general (or larger mini) that's alright, but don't be surprised when people reference your own words to ask questions. There's a difference between blaming insiders, and understanding what's going on communication wise. That's why I said we should manage our disappointment as individuals.
 
KC Hazel said:
Mario + Rabbids, Splatoon and Bayonetta will be on shelves alongside Pokemon.

Granted, I also think Prime will release this year, but they surely have other big games out for the holiday timeframe.
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Splatoon isn’t a holiday release though, and Mario + Rabbids is Ubisoft. That just leaves Bayonetta, which isn’t impossible as a holiday release, but it then leaves a pretty noticeable gap between Splatoon.

I’m not basing this off of some sort of myth that Nintendo needs a new game. They’ve got Pokémon, they’re more than set. But even with that, they still like to have one more notable game out the door in late October through early December. Don’t ask me why, but that’s just how they roll.
 
no wonder we get a Partner showcase + mini.... Nintendo couldn't decide what to make....

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KC Hazel said:
Mario + Rabbids, Splatoon and Bayonetta will be on shelves alongside Pokemon.

Granted, I also think Prime will release this year, but they surely have other big games out for the holiday timeframe.
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Pokemon
Splatoon 3
Metroid Prime Remastered
Bayonetta 3
Mario and Rabbids 2

That’s a fantastic lineup for the last quarter in terms of big releases.
 
Samus95 said:
To be fair Nintendo always have a Holiday period game that is NOT Pokemon

The only once that film the bill for now are new Fire Emblem and Prime HD bacuse they are finished
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While I did think Nintendo might have something else, realistically there's the potential combination here for Nintendo to have plenty, commercially, when you factor in

Splatoon 3 - 10 to 15 million seller
Mario + Rabbids 2 - 5 to 10 million seller
Pokemon - 20 million plus seller
Bayonetta 3 - 1 to 2 million seller
Advance Wars - 500k to 1 million seller

I thought there'd be more than that, sure, but commercially in that September through December window they'd be fine. They have two big sellers of their own plus a notable Mario release; they'll have at least a couple of smaller titles along side that.

There's also still plenty of time for further announcements. Throw in a 1-2 Switch sequel, for example, being announced through social media.
 
The very short term communication of the occurrence and content of their Directs is the point causing the whole disappointment.

There is probably multiple factor explaining it.
Corporation culture: Nintendo is always rather secretive.
A new hardware: the security measure a big society can take when it revolves about a new product in a competitive environment can be massive (NDA, security guys with guns, giving only a fraction of the informations to subcontractors to the point they have difficulties doing their job). I have witnessed it in an other context.
The international coordination. Probably a logistics nightmare.

But I don't try to find excuse for the whole mess. Truth is, they could have announced the whole thing last week simultaneously with the Xeno3 Direct.

Nevertheless, it makes me think of something. Maybe they do have too much to communicate? The sweet spot for a general Direct is 40ish minutes. An entry Punchline, headlines, something new/big, headlines, a detailed presentation of the next big thing, headlines/reel and the on more thing. Concise, good pacing, the right amount of adds with something more exciting. That's why we love them.
The thing is, the 20-21 schedule has been messed up by COViD. A lot of games were probably planned for earlier. We know for a fact that Nintendonis literally siting on games right now (e.g. fire emblem, probably Metroid prime 1 HD). They have already announced games which must be presented (Splatoon 3, Bayo 3). We hear rumor of new ones since months (Donkey kong). And it is probably partly the same for third parties.

So it could be (these are only hypothesis but bear with me) that they decide to split in between a game specific, third-parties an nintendo focused Direct to not end with a 60-65 ish presentation which would be no fun to watch.

I would be okay with that.

Now why they wouldn't simply TALK ABOUT IT. Not a clue. I'm flabbergasted.
 
Phendrift said:
Nate, does this still hold? Like in the sense that it’s a partner direct, but you think the reveals are pretty exciting and could be compared to the reveals of a big direct? Or are things getting shuffled around and what you thought would be there won’t be?
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There are good things in the show. Big is up to personal opinion based on whether or not you like the game/games.
 
NateDrake said:
There are good things in the show. Big is up to personal opinion based on whether or not you like the game/games.
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So you think all the knowledge you originally had when you said that was for this partner direct and not another potential direct some time down the line?
 
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Am I the only one that hopes that it will be a regular mini with mostly 3rd party but at least one 1st party game (Fire Emblem)?
I need FE.
 
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Idk how you can look at this list of 2022 games:

Pokemon Legends Arceus
Kirby and the Forgotten Lands
Nintendo Switch Sports
Mario Strikers Battle League
Advance Wars 1+2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Splatoon 3
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Bayonotta 3
Pokemon Scarlett/Violet

.. and think they NEED a direct this summer. Nothing on the level of BotW2 or Odyssey but it's still far from a terrible lineup. We've had similar lineups in past years. September is in 2 months and we'll probably have more substantial updates then, including about 2023.
 
MisterSpo said:
While I did think Nintendo might have something else, realistically there's the potential combination here for Nintendo to have plenty, commercially, when you factor in

Splatoon 3 - 10 to 15 million seller
Mario + Rabbids 2 - 5 to 10 million seller
Pokemon - 20 million plus seller
Bayonetta 3 - 1 to 2 million seller
Advance Wars - 500k to 1 million seller

I thought there'd be more than that, sure, but commercially in that September through December window they'd be fine. They have two big sellers of their own plus a notable Mario release; they'll have at least a couple of smaller titles along side that.

There's also still plenty of time for further announcements. Throw in a 1-2 Switch sequel, for example, being announced through social media.
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You can’t really think from a commercial perspective though. Nintendo could scrap everything besides Pokémon ScarVi and be more than set between that, Pokémon Legends, and Mario Kart 8.

Even if they’re more than commercially set, they still like to have something new out in the holiday window. That’s just how they operate.
 
NewPueblo said:
I think in the absence of information, it should be okay to just say you don't know. If Nate had definitive information that there was a general direct, and then that changed, then I would understand why he was reinforcing what was said. However, I'm pretty sure he's implied that the information on his end was on the third party side of things, which is in no way a guarantee or even indicator of a general.

That's why in my post I talked about it being fun to have inside information and engage in leak culture. If he wants to assume it's going to be a general (or larger mini) that's alright, but don't be surprised when people reference your own words to ask questions. There's a difference between blaming insiders, and understanding what's going on communication wise. That's why I said we should manage our disappointment as individuals.
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But he did say he doesn't know. He gives warnings time after time that plans can change, information is scattered, not all the puzzle pieces are in, etc etc. He usually makes it VERY clear when he's speculating and when he isn't, but people just hear what they wanna hear.

Nate never guarantees anything and constantly says he can't do that. He reports information that he has, then also speculates like the rest of us. People take his speculation to heart and then hold it against him if he's wrong which isn't fair. He's allowed to speculate like everyone else in this community.
 
JorgenRaft said:
Idk how you can look at this list of 2022 games:

Pokemon Legends Arceus
Kirby and the Forgotten Lands
Nintendo Switch Sports
Mario Strikers Battle League
Advance Wars 1+2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Splatoon 3
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope
Bayonotta 3
Pokemon Scarlett/Violet

.. and think they NEED a direct this summer. Nothing on the level of BotW2 or Odyssey but it's still far from a terrible lineup. We've had similar lineups in past years. September is in 2 months and we'll probably have more substantial updates then, including about 2023.
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This is actually WHY I thought they needed a direct lol. The last 5 games listed all need new info (not Xenoblade anymore after it’s direct I guess) and that’s before taking into account new announcements
 
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