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Fair points.To be fair, Metroid Dread did come out the same week Famiboards launched. And now we have a major rumor of a Metroid Prime remake. Meanwhile Splatoon has only gotten a couple of trailers.
Fair points.To be fair, Metroid Dread did come out the same week Famiboards launched. And now we have a major rumor of a Metroid Prime remake. Meanwhile Splatoon has only gotten a couple of trailers.
Splatoon 3 hasn't been in development since the previous game's release or the release of the Octo Expansion.
Yeah for a fresh nintendo ip doing so well and being a literal pop culture thing in japan. It's funny to see it less discussed on gaming enthousiast places.Splatoon just isn't very popular on Famiboards, and that's fine. It's been mentioned on roughly 2,000 occasions compared to Metroid (7,000+). For those who aren't into it, they may have expectations of some new hook that'll get them into the series, and so far they don't see that.
True but since splatoon is big in lore it should try to make the singleplayer a bit more like the octo expansion or close to it. That was the perfect spot for splatoon storymodes imo. If they make that nicely into a full fledged campaign it's good enough to me. The screenshots looked promising atleast.This is just how Nintendo’s multiplayer games work.
MK and Smash are also way more iterative than their big single player stuff is.
Which is why we need a Splatoon spinoff!!
I expect a bigger leap in terms of content and gameplay (new modes, new moves, much stronger single player etc. ) for a game developed in 4 years than a game developed in 2 years. Even moreso if the franchise has become increasingly popular, and has an increased budget. It doesn't strike me as an outlandish opinion.Expect more in what way though?
Splatoon just isn't very popular on Famiboards, and that's fine. It's been mentioned on roughly 2,000 occasions compared to Metroid (7,000+). For those who aren't into it, they may have expectations of some new hook that'll get them into the series, and so far they don't see that.
Do we know that the game had that long a production cycle though, did it really start straight after the Octo Expansion, or were they also working on other stuff? Isn't it made by EPD Group 5, who made Animal Crossing New Horizons? That would give Splatoon 3 a similar production cycle to 2, and there was the pandemic to take into account as well.I expect a bigger leap in terms of content and gameplay (new modes, new moves, much stronger single player etc. ) for a game developed in 4 years than a game developed in 2 years. Even moreso if the franchise has become increasingly popular, and has an increased budget. It doesn't strike me as an outlandish opinion.
If such new content and gameplay is actually part of the final game, then great, I'll be happy; I never said otherwise.
But I'm only going with what we've seen so far to express a preliminary opinion, not what could be revealed in the future. And what we've seen so far disappoints me.
a game developed in 4 years (...) and has an increased budget
You absolutely don't know that.
Just speaking for myself here, I like Splatoon a lot. I put a great deal of time into the first one and put over 125 hours in Splatoon 2 (which I know is a drop in the bucket for some fans). I don’t necessarily mind this game being quietly new, but I still really want to see something genuinely new for the game also given the massive success of its predecessor and them taking their time with it (a luxury the second game didn’t have). Splatoon 2 gave us Salmon Run over the first game which was huge. We’ve known about this game for well over a year now and we still don’t have one thing to really point to that’s extra exciting that gets the imagination going. I think the Godzilla monster in Salmon Run is the best so far, but it’s likely an infrequent event in that mode (like the spaceship or grillers). I get it’s a tight rope to walk to hold back surprises, but I really want at least one thing more than what’s expected to be here. As a fan, I didn’t really need to see a full game of Turf War to get it’s still Turf War and there will be some new abilities (many of which were in the reveal trailer!).Expect more in what way though?
It has a new setting, new campaign, new gameplay mechanics, new music, new maps, new weapons, better graphics, and probably more we don't know about yet, not sure what more we can reasonably expect from a game of this nature.
This just isn't the kind of franchise that needs to revolutionize itself constantly, like most successful franchises it has figured out what its audience wants and simply needs to continue to refine and improve that.
There's nothing wrong with a series being evolutionary instead of revolutionary.
Seeing all the box arts together makes me realize how wild it is that we're already at Splatoon 3.
I wonder if Order won, we'd be seeing a more electronica slant?Looks like they are going more into rock. I really like how frantic this sounds at some parts
Why go on basing your opinion on things you already said we don't know are facts?
What are everyone's reaction to the new bow weapon? It looks like the main quirk is that you can arc the shots around corners and behind objects and then they'll explode. The only issue that'll require balancing is how much damage those explosions will do, since it didn't seem like much.
In addition to that special that called in airstrikes, it feels like you'll have a lot less cover in Splatoon 3. Maybe that's why they added that portable shield bubble and the shot vacuum special. You look more powerful in 3.
What’s with this unambitious point of view? There is room between going full BotW with its budget and shipping with another very solid but overly familiar single player mode. And Nintendo knows that stuff, there are making sequels for decades now, after cracking the code with SMB 3. The Octoexpansion was what I was looking for and felt very fresh compared to the standard campaign, ending on a marvelous crescendo and a look into what could be. I would be very disappointed, if Splatoon 3 isn’t going further in that direction and we have to wait again for another expansion in the future.It sounds as though you're expecting the franchise to go full AAA, and for better or worse that's just not really how Nintendo operates. Not every series needs to be a mega-budget extravaganza, sometimes it's okay for a quirky AA series to stay a quirky AA series even after becoming popular.
No one said the single-player shouldn't or won't be expanded. I think most of us expect it will be. Almost all of the drive-by nonsense in the thread is about the core gameplay looking the same, which absolutely deserves the pushback it's getting because it's a ridiculous criticism.What’s with this unambitious point of view? There is room between going full BotW with its budget and shipping with another very solid but overly familiar single player mode. And Nintendo knows that stuff, there are making sequels for decades now, after cracking the code with SMB 3. The Octoexpansion was what I was looking for and felt very fresh compared to the standard campaign, ending on a marvelous crescendo and a look into what could be. I would be very disappointed, if Splatoon 3 isn’t going further in that direction and we have to wait again for another expansion in the future.
Octo Expansion is the best single player Splatoon content that there is right now. It's definitely worth playing.Should I bother buying the Octo expansion for Splatoon 2 now and play it? Or is it not worth it now the third is coming in the next few months?
I think so? It's certainly interesting from a development point of view; how far are they willing to go with it?I wonder if Order won, we'd be seeing a more electronica slant?
Because we've heard the same song and dance before over and over and over and over and usually it is concern trolling, like arguing that this game is a stop gap for a real Splatoon sequel, saying that there are no new gameplay mechanics, etc. None of that is "criticism". And that's not going to the more obvious trolling I've seen outside the forum. It gets tiring and yeah it should get called out.I really don't get why people are so keen to shut down any criticism of what has been shown for the past year for this game and accusing others of concern trolling.
Probably because most of the complaints about there being nothing new boil down to:I really don't get why people are so keen to shut down any criticism of what has been shown for the past year for this game and accusing others of concern trolling.
Happen with every Nintendo gameI really don't get why people are so keen to shut down any criticism of what has been shown for the past year for this game and accusing others of concern trolling.
Creatively bankrupt? Maybe Salmon Run is (seriously it looks pretty much the same wtf Nintendo) but Turf War sure as hell isn't. There's a ton of new stuff in there. Just because that mode isn't super different doesn't mean it's creatively bankrupt lol.Happen with every Nintendo game
this game could turn out to be a glorified DLC for Splatoon 2 and people here who are calling every criticism as just trolling/people doesn't know what they're talking about will ignore the conversation even happened
The trailers for this game have been mediocre and signaling that the franchise despite being fresh and unique is already looking creatively bankrupt
Is Nintendo hiding something still ? of course, but just potentially one cool addition to what Splatoon 2 offered is hardly enough, and at this point and after 3 trailers that's the most we can hope for
'Creatively Bankrupt'
I know you're joking, but who's saying creatively bankrupt?
Happen with every Nintendo game
this game could turn out to be a glorified DLC for Splatoon 2 and people here who are calling every criticism as just trolling/people doesn't know what they're talking about will ignore the conversation even happened
The trailers for this game have been mediocre and signaling that the franchise despite being fresh and unique is already looking creatively bankrupt
Is Nintendo hiding something still ? of course, but just potentially one cool addition to what Splatoon 2 offered is hardly enough, and at this point and after 3 trailers that's the most we can hope for
I absolutely suck at the chargers, and so I'd be interested in something with better range. You're right about the tweaks though, they adjusted the weapons/sub-weapons a ton in the first year or so trying to find the right balance (in addition to changes to the stages). Whatever the bow starts as probably won't be the same 6 months in.It seems like a weapon that'll receive a lot of tweaks to damage and explosion delay over the first few patches before it's in the right spot, but as a concept the class is already more intresting to me than Dualies were.
I'm a long range player without the aim to make use of chargers, so the Tri-Stringer's potential to box out or box in enemies immediately appeals to me. And I'll have even less reason to feel bad for getting stomped when I let opponents get close than I have with the Jet Squelcher, because stringers surely are absolutely hopeless up-close.
There's nothing wrong with being critical of something, but when you start making definitive statements about a game months before it releases and which we know little about then don't be shocked if people call you out. A lot of the "criticism" in this thread reeks of the old "Splatoon 2 is Splatoon 1.5" nonsense.I really don't get why people are so keen to shut down any criticism of what has been shown for the past year for this game and accusing others of concern trolling.
The game releases in five months, hell we barely knew anything about Splatoon 2 until a few weeks before release. Fuck off with your "Creatively bankrupt" bs.Happen with every Nintendo game
this game could turn out to be a glorified DLC for Splatoon 2 and people here who are calling every criticism as just trolling/people doesn't know what they're talking about will ignore the conversation even happened
The trailers for this game have been mediocre and signaling that the franchise despite being fresh and unique is already looking creatively bankrupt
Is Nintendo hiding something still ? of course, but just potentially one cool addition to what Splatoon 2 offered is hardly enough, and at this point and after 3 trailers that's the most we can hope for
Splatoon just isn't very popular on Famiboards, and that's fine. It's been mentioned on roughly 2,000 occasions compared to Metroid (7,000+). For those who aren't into it, they may have expectations of some new hook that'll get them into the series, and so far they don't see that.
Do keep in mind they teased there's more to salmon run they haven't shown at the end of that trailerCreatively bankrupt? Maybe Salmon Run is (seriously it looks pretty much the same wtf Nintendo)
Happen with every Nintendo game
this game could turn out to be a glorified DLC for Splatoon 2 and people here who are calling every criticism as just trolling/people doesn't know what they're talking about will ignore the conversation even happened
The trailers for this game have been mediocre and signaling that the franchise despite being fresh and unique is already looking creatively bankrupt
Is Nintendo hiding something still ? of course, but just potentially one cool addition to what Splatoon 2 offered is hardly enough, and at this point and after 3 trailers that's the most we can hope for
Give me that idol game as well or that mobile game mock-upI need a Splatoon tactics RPG spinoff
Sorry that some people aren't as excited about the game as you are. It's up to Nintendo to convince them otherwise and so far they haven't done that good of a job of it.The game is still more than four months away.
I'm not sure what it is with Nintendo games and concern trolling - are we always repeating the same "the information they have revealed thus far is literally the only content that will be in the game" cycle forever?
I get the frustration at the ignorance towards the way release cycles work. But I think it's a leap to suggest people are doing it to troll, especially here of all places.The game is still more than four months away.
I'm not sure what it is with Nintendo games and concern trolling - are we always repeating the same "the information they have revealed thus far is literally the only content that will be in the game" cycle forever?
Well, I never said it should be the focus. But the fundamentals are so strong and the movement is so enjoyable, that they could carry a more robust single-player campaign with relative ease. We have to wait and see, but I am optimistic.
- Wanting a primarily multiplayer game to have some grand single-player adventure. It's okay to want the series to have good single-player content, and there is a lot of potential for campaigns in this series, but it honestly feels like people complaining about this think it should be the focus of the game (basically the inverse of "forced multiplayer" complaints people have made about other games over the years).