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News Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes announced, launching June 24 (UPDATE: new "Leicester Alliance" trailer, see threadmarks)

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What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
 
To my understanding, the main development team is the Three Houses team. Gust may be assisting in some way, though, perhaps with the general look of the game. Gust games typically have clean art direction.
Sorry to bother you Nate, but isn't this kinda conflicting information tho? Emily specifically said that it was developed by Intelligent Systems and Gust—the latter of which is apparently providing some sort of visual support. Is it possible that it's actually the FE4 Remake that's being developed by the 3H team? I mean, it'd kinda make sense since 3H has several aspects that are comparable to FE4.
 
What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
Church you gotta have Catherine, thats for sure.
After that, I think Shamir is the next most obvious, and prolly Alois as well.
Maybe Geralt, too?

I could see Gatekeeper being a bonus DLC, and maybe even Rhea.

Byleth (and Sothis) I wouldn't lump in with any particular "faction".
 
What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
Solid roster but I'd agree with @uncleoptimus that Catherine and Shamir would be great inclusions as well.
 
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I have a hunch the roster is going to be low. Main lord of the house + retainer + 2 popular characters for each house. And then Byleth and maybe Rhea and/or Jeralt?
 
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What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
If it’s just Three houses. I Feel is should be the whole cast.
 
If it’s just Three houses. I Feel is should be the whole cast.
It should be, but given the Warriors games it probably won't be. How many primary cast members are in Three Houses again? Because it's definitely more than the typical non-mainline Warriors starting roster

Edit: Apparently FE Warriors had 23 characters pre-DLC which I feel like is a good estimate for how many will be in the starting roster for this game
 
If it’s just Three houses. I Feel is should be the whole cast.

It should be, but given the Warriors games it probably won't be. How many primary cast members are in Three Houses again? Because it's definitely more than the typical non-mainline Warriors starting roster

Edit: Apparently FE Warriors had 23 characters pre-DLC which I feel like is a good estimate for how many will be in the starting roster for this game
They can reuse some of the movesets for the general classes so the chances are it’ll be a bit higher, especially as since they have access to all the models some of the characters can be clones as well.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Anna back 1:1 as a bonus character too
 
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What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
I like it.


I guess we're not expecting Ashen Wolves to show up at all? Their sidestory was kind of ridiculous but I liked the characters.
 
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Don't you think Lorenz would make it? His family seemed quite important in that region the name of I completely forgot. Leicester Alliance, I think? Also, Raphael without Ignatz is just wrong.
 
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If it’s just Three houses. I Feel is should be the whole cast.

Not a chance unless they all have completely generic movesets that can be applied to everyone. That's about 35 characters and they're neverrrrr going to get that many even with DLC. More if you include the ashen wolves and the obligatory new characters and people like Rhea and Jeralt who could also potentially be made playable.

They already reused movesets between characters in FEW1 and it sucked, so I hope that's not returning honestly. Fewer characters but making them more unique is more enjoyable for me.
 
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Since I was banned and couldn't explain myself.
When I talk about accountability I mean things like how about you don't make excuses or justifications for them and let them explain themselves? Who are their sources anyway? A janitor at NoA? A waiter or waitress at a place Tree House employees frequent? The Sphinx speaking in riddles? And no, I'm not asking for disclosure of sources. How about not treating everything they say as basically confirmed? If their sources are that unreliable and they can't discern between true and false information, then that makes them unreliable themselves. How about assuming they're wrong until proven otherwise? You can't tell me you haven't noticed red flags when they're making their vague statements or backpedal, like claiming that it doesn't matter whether it's a Pro revision or a successor. How about you don't fill in for their hints and vague statements? I saw a member mentioning a miracle game, while another came up with four games released in 2021 that'd fit that description. Just goes to show how far being vague can get you. How about we don't put blame on the people who believe the information and end up disappointed? If you hype up a "rumour" for weeks or even months, then tell someone it's their own fault for believing it, that's very disingenuous. Throwing a tantrum or harassing people is of course completely unnecessary and shouldn't be done.

I'm only advocating for a little scepticism. Or perhaps even a bunch of it.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
 
You have to imagine they at least include all the main students from the three houses in the base game. Even if some take a backseat for story purposes they could easily add them all in as unlockables. Even if a bit of cloning occurs, they all have too many fans for some to miss the cut, and they already have the models ready to go.

They can save the Garreg Mach Knights (such as Shamir and Catherine) and the Grey Wolves characters for DLC
 
You have to imagine they at least include all the main students from the three houses in the base game. Even if some take a backseat for story purposes they could easily add them all in as unlockables. Even if a bit of cloning occurs, they all have too many fans for some to miss the cut, and they already have the models ready to go.

They can save the Garreg Mach Knights (such as Shamir and Catherine) and the Grey Wolves characters for DLC

The only way you get all 24 students as playable is if there's only a handful of movesets and they're all repeated to hell.

FEW only had 15 movesets. With all the dlc it ended up at 19.

Age of calamity which is inevitably going to have had a much larger budget than this only had 18 characters.
 
The only way you get all 24 students as playable is if there's only a handful of movesets and they're all repeated to hell.

FEW only had 15 movesets. With all the dlc it ended up at 19.

Age of calamity which is inevitably going to have had a much larger budget than this only had 18 characters.
I suppose one way you get around that is, like in Three Houses itself, is that you have a select number of classes and the students are assigned a new class based on their training and experiences. So there's only like 10-15 fighting styles but you can mix and match based on how the students are trained.

Or, as you said, there's a lot of cloning to go around. But they've done it before
 
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What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
No Petra, no buy.


(Seriously though, I want her in, lol)
 
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I think they will put all students in but the reason why is because they will all be clones (moveset wise) just like the first FE Warriors game.
 
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What do y'all think of this roster? Gonna limit it to five characters per faction, counting the church:
Dimitri
Dedue
Felix
Ingrid
Sylvain

Edelgard
Hubert
Linhardt
Bernadetta
Dorothea

Claude
Hilda
Lysithea
Marianne
Raphael

Byleth
Rhea
Seteth
Sothis
Gatekeeper (summons NPCs in his attacks, so they're not left out)
I don't think Linhard and Raphael will be included mostly because they are probably not the most popular. I can see them add Petra and Shamir in their place.
 
Since I was banned and couldn't explain myself.
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I'm only advocating for a little scepticism. Or perhaps even a bunch of it.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
Hey I hear ya. I don't think you shoulda been banned for the comment I skimmed across. "Being cynical", while often it might not be productive perse, is an insufficient reason to ban someone in the context of i.e. what was expressed, where it was said and the when it was said.
Particularly in this space, where a lot of folks express cynical opinions on a variety of topics on a daily basis and especially during a Direct cooldown period.

If anything, I would encourage you to inquire with mods on the ban decision if for no other reason than get an explanation of why and maybe even having that discussion helps to improve their ability to evaluate situations. Because its certainly a thankless job, and it is understandable if sometimes the best decision was not made when viewed in retrospect. (Which reminds me ... thanks mods, we know its a thankless job!)

Now all that said, gonna be Captain Obvious and point out that getting too high or too low on speculation will often not end well.

So the best bet may well be to take speculation with a grain of salt. Engage with it as much as you feel comfortable, while also keeping in mind that for some folks they are maybe wired to enjoy the speculative talk and thats fine for them! Indeed this is a suitable space for that sort of banter.

For instance, just to explain how my brain works, my ... I guess "trust level"/"threshold of disappointment" ... is in a different place than others wrt to info from fellow Fami-members like a NateDrake. Thats OK, I'm just doing me! For whatever reasons that are mine, I generally consider statements from him to be fairly likely to come true, and I proceed to enjoy banter surrounding it. Now he could be wrong, I could be wrong. Its all good, this board is the space to engage in both the exuberance and the skepticism.

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Now heres where I'm at with FE post-Direct.

That Direct opener looked like a High Quality Video Game. I loved hearing the music and the actors and it looks like it has fairly lush production value. I think the concept makes sense, and I'm happy that the original game had a strong enough reception to spur a project like this, which exists for fans. I liked Three Houses overall and will probably enjoy seeing and discussing more about the game going forward.

I will also probably never play it, as musous have not yet been able to get hooks into me. What little time I spent w/ the first FE Warriors was a bit underwhelming.

I also believe 100% Intelligent Systems is very hard at work on various Fire Emblem things.
When it comes, I am not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if another announcement happened this year. And If it doesn't come in 2022, I will be even more convinced we will get something in 1st half 2023. I think an Echoes title is the more likely to come before a brand-new mainline game, but the rumours say otherwise. In fact they say BOTH are well into their dev cycles @-@

I know I'm slingin' hopes and dreams here but dang thats fun! (for me)
 
The only way you get all 24 students as playable is if there's only a handful of movesets and they're all repeated to hell.

FEW only had 15 movesets. With all the dlc it ended up at 19.

Age of calamity which is inevitably going to have had a much larger budget than this only had 18 characters.
AoC had more, and plus in this case you have more candidate movesets(FEW1 was heavily restricted to lords), and you can reuse movesets from the first game for general classes(totally expect Anna back as a bonus character as she can basically be reused)
 
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If they force me to use F!Byleth without the option to instantly switch her into anything other than those tacky stockings...

Anyway, this was such a downer at the start of an otherwise great Direct for me. I have a tiny shred of hope we may get another FE game this year (someone in here mentioned Warriors and Echoes launched close to each other), but on the plus side there's a ton of strategy/tactics titles on the horizon so there's no pressing need.

Is the first Warriors game worth picking up?
 
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Technically, if that Gust x IntSys FE game is still slated for 2022, it could be a December game.

I'll throw some speculation but what if that game is some sort of Tokyo Mirage type of deal, being a cross-collaboration?

Atelier has the 25th anniversary with at least one other game announcement for this year.

Even without FE, Gust's schedule is already crazy busy.

If the next FE entry is 4 remake it'd make sense to call Kou Shibusawa again.


It being narratively along the lines of AoC is my nightmare, lol.

I hated the narrative of that game and the worst thing I can imagine is they pull the same nonsense "here have a world where a bunch of deus ex machinas mean everything ends up happy and as a sort of golden ending" type of thing here.


Totally, that's my gripe with musou games, story often feels completely irrelevant. It's all "feel-good", good guys win, bad guys lose.
 
I'll throw some speculation but what if that game is some sort of Tokyo Mirage type of deal, being a cross-collaboration?
Yes, this was what I was thinking actually, more than Gust helping developing a FE game, its a new game mixing elements from FE and Atelier.
 
Nobody asked me, but I'd kill for a roster like that:
Black Eagles:
Edelgard
Linhardt
Caspar
Bernadetta
Petra

Golden Deer:
Claude
Ignatz
Hilda
Raphael
Marianne
Lysethia

Blue Lions:
Dimitri
Ashe
Dedue
Felix
(I haven't played this route so only listed the mains in the plot and the ones I recruited)

Ashen Wolves:
ALL OF THEM

Church of Seiros:
Rhea
Cyril
Shamir
Catherine
Alois
Jeralt

Others:
Anna
 
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I actually wouldn’t mind a golden route “everybody lives” scenario with this game considering the main game has none. It’d be fun to see how these characters could be made to get along with each other at some point. It’s just a spin-off game, anyway.
 
I actually wouldn’t mind a golden route “everybody lives” scenario with this game considering the main game has none. It’d be fun to see how these characters could be made to get along with each other at some point. It’s just a spin-off game, anyway.
Ironically a happy ending fits here more then what Age of Calamity did. Considering Three Houses is 3 (4) separate stories and some are bleak for some characters.

While one of the interesting parts of BOTW was seeing how the world ended up the way it did. Only for that game to really not give you the more interesting story
 
Ironically a happy ending fits here more then what Age of Calamity did. Considering Three Houses is 3 (4) separate stories and some are bleak for some characters.

While one of the interesting parts of BOTW was seeing how the world ended up the way it did. Only for that game to really not give you the more interesting story
Honestly just wish they did both like older Warriors games.
 
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TBH in the case of AOC I thought it would have both the "bad ending" and the paralel world end.

But I enjoyed hell of it.
 
My only major concern is splitscreen performance. My partner played recently played the main three routes back to back and likes Musou games, so Three Hopes is a perfect set-up.
 
My only major concern is splitscreen performance. My partner played recently played the main three routes back to back and likes Musou games, so Three Hopes is a perfect set-up.
If it’s anything like other Musous on the system then it will probably get pretty rough. Especially on any bigger maps or lots of things going on.
 
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I just honestly wish for both this and AoC that they did with previous musous; which would be to have the “historical route” then you could branch off into what we see in both games. Instead of just having the alternate “good”ending with not much else there.
Also wished they put more characters and scenarios into AoC but the pandemic may have had something to do with that so, hopefully here they do just that.
 
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I don't think Linhard and Raphael will be included mostly because they are probably not the most popular. I can see them add Petra and Shamir in their place.
My husbando Linhardt is in the top 10 male characters per Famitsu poll above Caspar, Raphael, Gatekeeper and Dedue (also the only MM possible romance so makes sense he'd be somewhat popular)
 
It's possible everyone playable from Three Houses will be playable in Three Hopes if they do 'clone characters', as Three Houses has a pretty low amount of playable characters for a Fire Emblem game, it's roughly the same amount as in the first Fire Emblem Warriors actually.

As for characters, a lot of them could share movesets like Bernadetta, Ashe, Leonie, Ignatz, Shamir, and possibly Cyril (though Cyril shares more with Claude) for an example, or Flayn, Linhardt, Marianne, and Mercedes as another. Branched classes are also possible like having Bow Knight for Bernadetta/Leonie, and Sniper for Ashe/Shamir or vice-versa.



Playable
Edelgard - Axe
Dimitri - Lance
Claude - Bow

Unconfirmed if playable
Judith - Sword
Randolf - Axe

Seen in cutscene / Other
Byleth (F) - Used a Sword in a cutscene
Hubert
Mercedes
Hilda - Used an Axe in cutscene
Purple hair person - Used Dual-Swords in a cutscene
The Immaculate One - Used a 'Crest Stone' in a cutscene
Monica? - May have used magic in a cutscene
Jeralt

Seen in artwork
White hair person
Sothis
 
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I am still on fence on this one. Though as I loved Three Houses I don't mind hanging out more in Fodlan. :D
 
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At 2:33, I believe that's Hilda's brother. My god the animations look even better and smoother? Jeez, I wished Three Houses looked as decent as this lol.

Consider me VERY excited.
 
I really don't know how to feel about Byleth being replaced in the story with a Warriors OC lol. But the mid-timeskip designs look fun
 
The Byleth as a villain stuff screams marketing fake out, so I'm guessing it's manipulation from whatever revived Shez and will be cleared up by the time Byleth joins in whichever route picked.

(Or joins back up, I wouldn't be shocked if they had whatever group Shez joined also be the one Byleth taught.)
 
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