'little to no effect'? It sold ~1 million copies (I don't remember if they officially said it did yet or not) and is easily the best selling SMT game of all time. It's not like they could really have expected a whole lot more than that out of it.
Any kind of paid exclusivity talk is fan fiction. We don't have any evidence that either of Persona 5 or SMT5 are paid timed exclusives. Maybe they're not? Atlus really did want to separate the fanbase?
I meant the effect on hardware sales. SMT5 did not move Switch sales like MH Rise did.
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I doubt either Nintendo or Atlus were expecting SMTV to be a major system-seller.
Are you sure? Persona 6 being on Switch, even as a multiplat title, would be huge news. Handhelds are perfect platforms for big JRPG's like Persona and we'd see many longtime PS fans give their attention to Switch. Persona might not be as big as MH but it's still way bigger than vanilla SMT. It sure would be a needle mover on Switch.
I'm not sure about this. SMT5 is a pretty big budget title for Switch standards, I suspect either Nintendo or Atlus had some big expectations for it. Mainly Atlus.
As @SammyJ9 posted earlier SMTV sold a little over 1 million copies, that's nothing to sneeze at for an RPG since games in the genre rarely get close to that. Anyway I don't understand why you keep downplaying mainline SMT; it has a history on Nintendo systems similar to Dragon Quest and I don't see why Nintendo would snub the series in favor of fighting for exclusivity of the next Persona title.
Well obviously Nintendo do put Persona above SMT, they had picked Joker over Flynn for Smash (though I'd love Flynn as a Smash DLC, dude was a badass samurai). I just expect they do the same for next Atlus Switch project, if they help funding the game. IF they fund the game, there's no evidence that supports the idea that they had in the past.
There are enough timed exclusives out there where we know of said exclusivity being tied to some kind of deal, be it monetary or otherwise (marketing, distribution, you name it; ultimately it's about money all the time). See Forspoken, FF VIIR, XVI, or recent Bethesda games like Ghostwire or Deathloop. When it comes to Atlus games, sure, yeah, the exclusivity talk is purely hypothetical due to the lack of any kind of detail regarding potential deals -- if there were any to begin with, that is. Then again, we had Nintendo publish SMTV (in Europe at least), so we have at least some indication that they were involved with the game, whatever the extent might have been.
There's a difference between what Nintendo as a publisher/platform holder wants in terms of third party support for their platform, and what Nintendo/Sakurai want in terms of character representation for their All-Star-type fighting game. Very different contexts, very different goals, thus different approaches.
I still maintain the theory of SMT5 was a complete Atlus decision, with zero Nintendo involvement. And it's still impossible the predict the future of that franchise despite SMT5 selling 1 million copies. It's no longer that little low budget title that was on 3DS and Atlus is not a huge studio with plenty of branches. We already have 2 rumored Atlus games today, I have no idea where SMT fits in all that.
Devil Survivor 3!
The third game is a Persona spinoff, it's not Devil Survivor 3
I wasn't serious about that but a Devil Survivor x Persona crossover might work. DS2's cast interacting with P5 cast could be pretty interesting.
No, it really isn't, agreed on that. And yeah, Atlus ain't that big, iirc their last head count was around 300-ish people.
Not "never" for mainline SMT but I totally expect the next few years to be full of persona. Playstation will have its own exclusive Persona and so will Nintendo. Maybe a spinoff or a remake for Nintendo. Persona is at the height of its popularity right now and Atlus will ride on that.
I doubt there was zero Nintendo involvement; having the game announced during the Switch presentation, making it the centerpiece of the first Partner Direct alongside SMTIII, giving it a spotlight during Nintendo Treehouse, getting it a simultaneous worldwide release alongside plenty of promotion from Nintendo, and publishing it in Europe tells me that Nintendo has a vested interest in the series akin to Dragon Quest.
For once today I agree with you, I also think seeing PS2 SMT spinoffs like DDS getting HD remasters is highly probable.
This list is relatively accurate IMO, although having Joker even on it at all feels kind of like cheating since he's the player character. And it does Ryuji dirty. (actually I'd swap around quite a few in it, but at least it got Makoto, Futaba, and Akechi in the top 5).Just saw this:
Official Persona 5 Royal character popularity poll results revealed
Is your favorite here?www.gonintendo.com
This is just SEA, not Japan or NAJust saw this:
Official Persona 5 Royal character popularity poll results revealed
Is your favorite here?
Ah, okay. Although it's not much different than this one, which compiles several different lists shown here from mostly Japan (doesn't include Kasumi):
It just does, it’s incredible. And it’s not like it wasn’t already great right off the bat. Where are you at now?
The Palace that belongs to Shido.
Nice! Still more great ones to get to.
I was constantly impressed by it. Especially since one of the best songs in the entire game only plays in the last ~3 hours!
Is the dancing game canon?
No. Only canon followup to P5R so far is Strikers, and even then there's people who swear it's noncanon. (They are foolish and wrong.)Is the dancing game canon?
Assuming you mean Mementos Depths, then yes, the Royal semester is after this section of the game (assuming you met the requirements to unlock it).
Yes.
I’ve been playing on hard, and the fight becomes easier if you switch to merciless. I was just hoping they’d adjust the health of one of the enemies.
It's a really weird fight that plays out more like a puzzle boss than an actual fight. It's almost like those 'gauntlet trials where you basically have to do a very specific set of moves in the right order' optional battles from SMTIV, if anyone remembers those.
They're both useful, and generally levels are pretty important, but mostly because they let you have higher level personas for Joker, since that's where so much or your power and utility comes from. Also party member skills/stats always help, too.
Thanks! I’ve had a streak of beating each palace (aside from the castle) in as few days as possible so hopefully I can level quickly and keep that up.
I can respect that take, but abso-fucking-lutely not. I ADORE the palaces in 5 due to how unique they are, gimmicks and all. I felt the opposite, going back to Persona 4 for the first time after 5: I couldn't stand the dungeons. They felt like boring, empty hallways with nothing but combat in them, no crafted design, no character. Just bland things that you wanted to jam through as quickly as possible to be done with. Whereas in Persona 5, I could just hang out in dungeons for hours (and did!) with how bespoke, charming, and atmospheric they are. I would hate going back after P5 gave us some of the best dungeons in any JRPG ever.
I'm not! Although I think I've had someone ask me that before, too. I'm also SammyJ9 there.
