We are getting new 3D Mario this year then, there is no way we aren't.
I hope you're right.
I can see it being holiday 2024 if development only began in 2019 or up until then it was something cancelled or pre-production. I think it should've started by late 2018 so this year makes the most sense..
Yeah, I am not that disappointed thinking that there is 3D Mario this year. It's a bummer it won't be for new hardware? Yes. Will it still be one hell of a masterpiece? Yes.
I'm not disappointed at it not being at new hardware either because it being on current Switch means I can play it.
I think they've found a lot of clever solutions as to how make games look and play great on Switch (the jump from Splatoon 2 to 3 and from Xenoblade 2/DE to 3 speaks for itself), whatever the next Mario is it'll be great. As in being the best looking Switch game not named LM3 levels of great.
well they could sell it with something like Luigi's Mansion 4. There is plenty of options. Either way, we should know better in next weeks were we stand with 2D/3D Mario.
The last time they didn't it didn't turn out well
But I can see it doing great now, as LM3 came to the selling point of 3D Mario not named-Odyssey and selling better than any Zelda not named BotW.
Will also be the absolute best looking game possible to launch the console with.
Not to mention the launch day isn't the only important thing, it has to have a great launch window, so, launch in October with Luigi's Mansion 4 or Metroid Prime 4, November having a cross gen Pokemon game, the next H1 having MK or AC can do fantastically.
nah, 3D Mario can and will wait
next 3D Mario will blow people away in holiday 2025
Jesus no
8 years is a lot of damn time
I think 7 years can be likely tho if it's late 2024 cross gen
My own guess for this year's big Mario game is Mario vs DK, simply named as Mario vs Donkey Kong 23. An ode to one of the best Game Boy games ever made, a true successor. Will have both 3D and 2D stages and option to play as Movie Mario and Movie DK. And a custom stage maker.
That's my dream. An actually ambitious game that's a sequel to both mainline Mario and mainline Pokémon like Donkey Kong 94 felt. Would be a masterpiece definitely.
I see almost none of those games except Pokemon and Animal Crossing being massive system sellers though (Splatoon will probably be around 2026 though it will sell systems) and Pokemon will surely be cross-gen. These are like 5m sellers or games that don't push hardware.
The Switch 2 just not having any of its 25m+ selling franchises on it (except maybe Animal Crossing?) until late 2027 or later? Baffling plan when Nintendo relies so much on first-party software.
I think, assuming it launches early 2025:
- Mario Kart Next at launch;
- Animal Crossing before the end of 2026;
- Pokémon cross gen gen 10 launch year(already more than Switch had)
It would be literally just mainline new 3D Mario and 3D Zelda waiting til 2027, with those getting remakes in the meantime.
I mean, if anything it was weird to me that they were launching new Splatoon game in 9.2022 when the new hardware would come 8 months after that (May 2023). Holiday 2023 at least made some sense with possible 3D Mario(?).
Yeah it never made any sense to me. Now that we know that Zelda probably was never meant to be launched with hardware (unless it was once planned to launch with OLED?).
I mean the February 2022 Direct gave huge "Switch 2 is never coming lmao" vibes. I believe February 2023 will give this sentiment a huge boost when they show TOTK on current Switch and everybody forgets they once wanted a Switch 2. If they show any 2024 game like an Astral Chain 2 or Metroid Prime 4 it will be hilarious lol.
People in enthusiast forums underestimate the power of 2D Mario. A good, interesting new 2D Mario tied with the launch of an interesting new console could make for an insane launch. (Along with another more core-focused first party game)
The instance of Wii U/NSMBU doesn't count. It was the fucking Wii U and fucking New Super Mario Bros again lol
This lol. NSMB gave DS a lot of new buyers, NSMB Wii gave Wii new life on holiday 2009. Also we shouldn't forget that NES and SNES were released with 2D Mario's and did great. Up until Odyssey, 2D Mario was miles ahead of 3D Mario in sales and mass appeal.
I think that if they use the movie hype right, having a new 2D or 3D Mario on the holiday season following TotK and maybe also having a budget model will make Switch get near 20M once more.
Mario Rabbids 2 - too good for Switch, it's a next gen-footage.
Zelda TotK delay video footage - too good for Switch, it's a next-gen footage.
Pikmin 4 - too good for Switch, it's a next-gen footage.
It all started with Splatoon 3 on the February 2021 Direct lol and then the game came and people suddenly moved the discourse to "see? Switch got a game that looks exactly like it's predecessor!!".
Does anyone know how much staff overlap was shared between Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3? I could see Astral Chain 2 as a late Switch exclusive before the successor is released.
If anyone that's more into Platinum and their teams and leads can give us this information I will be very happy too!!
I don't think the games shared most of their leads IIRC. Also I think most of the bulk of the teams were different too, as I don't see anyway Bayonetta 3 would have started development late 2019 and be ready late 2022, I think we have suggestions it's been in development since way before that(not to mention being announced in 2017).
I'm a believer Astral Chain 2 is a 2024 game.
not 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Smash, or Prime 4, though. for the sort of person who doesn't appreciate weirdo stuff like me I can see how that'd disappoint
I think literally no one of us ever expected to be talking about Smash ever since Ultimate was released. Even if Drake was 2022 a new Smash would take a while to come.
Mario Kart was always once in a console, but after the DLC announcement we shouldn't have been expecting one anytime soon, even if Drake was 2022.
3D Mario can still come to current Switch or be cross gen and we actually have evidence of one being in development. Nothing changes, moreso for people that weren't expecting a new one on Switch.
Metroid Prime 4... Is still on the same boat it's ever been. It would've been 2024 with Drake releasing in 2022 or 2025. And will come to Switch OG even if it releases in 2025.