Yeah, and it's worth to remember that MK8 only had 1GB of RAM on the Wii U, while the next one will have 10~11GB. They should be able to hold a few different versions of a track and still have the headroom to make them prettier, bigger and/or more detailed, if that's the direction they want to go.
Those assets already exist and have been widely used in all UE5 projects to a major degree, ever heard of Quixel Megascans? Not the 100% of them were handcrafted by the studio, which even non-Unreal titles are known to be using them. Regarding better tools... 3Lateral face scans paired with the Metahumans creator have been gaining traction as of lately, and it's been HB2's greatest tool to achieve its level of fidelity. Even regarding performance, the just released 5.4 update of the engine improved CPU performance by a minimum of 70%(!)... Efforts are being made to make things cheaper/viable, you just need to look them up.
As you said, you dont strictly need fast storage. But it sure helps. I remember reading about what a nightmare that level was for the programmers.
So, what you’re saying is it’s really awesome and something I say multiple times per week, but was criminally under appreciated when it was first said (with people still struggling to catch up to its brilliance to this day?)
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It's not entirely a load screen. You'll often run into it even when moving between areas of the same room which are already in memory.
I've not played Titanfall 2, but given that it is a Source Engine game, I imagine they're doing something like storing the 2 level variations in different parts of the same map and then teleporting the player between those two different parts, rather than actually switching between 2 different maps stored in memory. I'm not sure how else they would have done it, though that game does feature some heavy engine modifications so maybe they came up with a whole new system for loading 2 maps at once.
This is a fun post, but I just wanted to point out that the final 460.8 MHz clock is precisely 50% higher than the lowest 307.2 MHz clock. Unless there was an even lower one I'm not aware of Nintendo was targeting that they scrapped altogether?
I believe all that determines if it's instant is whether or not the camera can maintain a minimum distance from the geometry as you ascend.The ascend loading happens even when going through thin surfaces sometimes, due to collision calculation.
Other times it's instant like in the first example here.
I think it makes sense to have the screen when going through thick surfaces like mountains, ideally it disappears when the distance to travel is shorter.
I would hope that a faster CPU can help.
Makes sense - in the example where there was a swimming animation (but not a place you would think loading would occur), it looks like camera would have collided with the platform.
The things I would do to get this game lol...All these game rumors and still nothing about Marvel Ultimate Alliance 4
It's not that, it just seemed like there was a huge variance in how long it'd take in different places, like sometimes ascending through a 1cm thick platform would take longer than a mountain, I just assumed it was some weird geometry thing with the engine. I guess @Serif thought the same lol. I guess it's all just loading the world regardless, my mind just pointed me to a different direction haha
It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
Having just tested it, the screen does appear but duration is still 'instant' if there is no object collision detected above but the camera cannot go through the surface. I'm fine with the loading screen, just prefer a faster ascend if the surface is thin enough.
How many games used the 460mhz mode ? Botw and MK11 comes to mind.
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Actually yes, I do know about them. But I still think the asset quality I've seen in all of the games that used photogrammetry thus far don't come close to what I saw in that demo. The amount of attention to detail in just one scene was far too much for a large-scale game by today's standards. Hellblade 2 gets close, especially with the character models and their animations, but the game is extraordinarily limited in scope. We're still years away from achieving Hellblade 2 level graphics in an open-world game, for example.
Any chance you can screenshot and share, or at least find one on web if someone else has already took it? I'd love to see what this is referring to (visually see it)
What demo? Valley of the Ancients, Matrix...? No, Hellblade 2 is objectively superior to the both of them in terms of geometry and animation-wise and logically so, Hellblade 2 was made under 5.3 which is miles better optimized in comparison. The limits in its scope aren't really that much of a dealbreaker when you remember Ninja Theory is an 80 employees studio... It's not engine limitations, they just didn't have the manpower or the intention to make anything bigger in scope (since this was a sequel to Hellblade, ya' know). HB2 was presumably started in early 2020 since NT publicly admitted they didn't have anything done by the time of the original 2019 trailer, so you can assume four years.
Yup that’s the one, strangely it’s the only game that I know of, that’s start with the Nintendo Logo.Any chance you can screenshot and share, or at least find one on web if someone else has already took it? I'd love to see what this is referring to (visually see it)
Edit: Do you mean like this?
I mean, I think we can update the LCD beyond the OG screen in more ways than just resolution. I am fairly certain we get HDR, and if some kind of variable refresh rate solution comes on top if that, it'll be a nice upgrade.
Oh, me too! What I was trying to say was that games which benefit from fast storage aren't just the ones that use it flashily. Zelda, Pokemon, 3D Mario, Xenoblade, Monster Hunter, Sonic - all open world, or open area games that can be larger in scope and cheaper to make if storage is fast.
The majority of (non-port) EPD games do; off the top of my head, MK8D, Splatoon 2/3, Odyssey, and TotK do. It's rare from third parties, but it's a common clock for Nintendo games.How many games used the 460mhz mode ? Botw and MK11 comes to mind.
I think most games used the 384mhz profile which is still an uplift over the original portable clocks.
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As @ZachyCatGames points out, early SDKs had a crazy low clock speed, in the 200s. But to @LiC's point, that doesn't mean Nintendo ever thought they'd ship with something actually that low, and it was just a place holder.
Especially since there were portals in the subsequent Spiderman 2 and they were fully instantaneous.
And a prompt to enable progressive scan, which if left disabled will start up the game in 900i.
I'm interested in how many 3rd party & non EPD games are using the 460mhz profile
The ascend loading happens even when going through thin surfaces sometimes, due to collision calculation.
Other times it's instant like in the first example here.
I think it makes sense to have the screen when going through thick surfaces like mountains, ideally it disappears when the distance to travel is shorter.
I would hope that a faster CPU can help.
I imagine the reason why they started out with those low clocks was because they were coming off of Project INDY, which was supposedly going to have the power of half a Wii U (on the GPU side at least). Just going by simply numbers, Wii U's GPU had 160 shader cores and ran at 550 Mhz, pushing around 176 GFlops. However they would have sliced it (cores or freq), Project INDY was looking to be around 88 GFlops. Using Tegra X1 with 256 shader cores, that would indicate a clock frequency of 171.8 Mhz. Maybe a reason for pushing higher wasn't simply a demand for more power, but also because this may fall well below Tegra X1's peak efficiency clock, even when in the 200s? If they were using LPDDR4 from the start of the "switch" to the TX1, then that would have made for some heavily underutilized RAM bandwidth.
Be honest though, no on who played on console ever saw that prompt lol (though I did end up getting Wii component cables eventually)
No.
IIRC, shipment records haven't given a strong indication here (yet?).
Yes, both Xenoblade 2 and 3 run at 384 Mhz in portable mode. I also checked Xenoblade DE, and both it and Future Connected run the GPU at 307.2 Mhz
Very interesting considering they are considered graphical games.
I thought that was true of DE but couldn't remember well enough to comment on it (and Dekuman didn't ask, so I didn't feel a need to bring it up when I was unsure).
Yeah, and while DE generally runs better than 2 in handheld mode, it still does drop in resolution quite a bit. I'm surprised they went for the 307.2 MHz option. IIRC 460.8 MHz requires permission from Nintendo to use, which is why it's not as common as soon as you leave EPD-developed games.
I wonder if Sony corporate screwed over Cernys vision a bit? An engine that does that, would possibly not have been running well on many PCs?
