Obviously there would be some sort of metadata flags to identify which games natively support the platform, but yeah, more or less. Some games may choose to have separate executables, and Nintendo could choose to design things so there's a clearer separation, but, given that the Switch is a somewhat storage constrained platform, I expect Nintendo will go with a setup that tries to minimize the amount of duplicated data.
Sure, sure. Despite my misunderstandings of the details of these platforms I am a programmer by education lol
Honestly Nintendo fans have the most discontent and internal battles of any of those of the current three market players simply due to the variety within series, between consoles, etc. For example, @wookiee thinks the Switch fucking sucks and is not alone in that. We have "Wii U truthers," imagine if the Sony fans had "PS3 truthers" or some shit
My growing concern, which I expect to be so unpopular that I'm spoilering it, is that
Just in reference to the OP.
I do think it's a valid point that in a couple of years time smartphone gaming will have power equal to, if not more powerful, than the current Switch. I'm sure Nintendo have that in mind too. It's another reason for not resting on their laurels.
oh yeah probably lmao
it's rarer now but games do get delayed still. Animal Crossing was one, iirc Yoshi or something was another
Sure anything can get delayed but acting like it's more likely to be a 2023 game than a 2022 game is odd. It's officially slated for 2022, there's currently not much of a reason to think it'll miss that even though of course it's possible.
Yeah, given that we've actually seen some of it now I think a delay would be kind of weird. It again probably depends if new hardware is next year or later.
Hardware sales will not drop off a cliff anytime soon. No price drop yet. Huge releases. OLED.
Honestly, I have wondered how long it would be until the likes of Apple and Amazon start offering games direct to TV via their streaming service, but you can argue that the market is big enough to support multiple players now. And even then there's no guarantee of success. Look at Stadia.
I’m trying to find the direct source, but it was said “aiming for 2022” around E3. If you google “aiming for 2022 with Breath of the Wild there are articles saying Aonuma said it, but no direct link.
I just wonder what the pricing would look like for an Apple hybrid. They've been competitive before (~$300 iPad), so I could see them being aggressive towards the Switch and its successor if they want that space
I mean in the direct itself it said "2022".
For that to be a success Apple would have to invest a huge amount of money to either secure or develop their own exclusives. We saw with Stadia that just having access to the same games you get on PlayStation and Xbox doesn't cut it on its own. If you want people to buy your console above the others, you need to give them a reason. Is Apple currently serious enough to pump in that kind of capital? Possibly, but I doubt it at the moment.
I’m sure Nintendo will make every effort to get it out sooner than later, but if they aren’t fully committed yet (it was their E3 press release that had “aiming for”) I think it’s better to not count on it and be happy if it does. The big Zeldas seemingly always get delayed.
The original Breath of the Wild, Metroid Prime 4, and Animal Crossing are probably their biggest high profile delays. Prime 4 definitely hurts the most, but I don’t really remember any of their other titles slipping too much. Someone said Yoshi earlier in the thread, but I don’t remember.If BOTW2 comes out in 2023 ... Yeesh
Feels like Nintendo has actually gotten worse about announcing games too early, and game delays in general, in the Switch's lifespan. Which is funny because I remember how optimistic people were after Breath of the Wild released, that that would never happen again.
thats wild, i always thought the finicky casual market, oversaturation of shovelware, and lack of "core" games on the wii is what lead to the drop off - none of which applies to ps4.
You can't just buy amazing games either. Well you can but it takes a long time. Even as giant as MS is, they're still building towards the future in terms of their own first party and way behind more established companies.
When it comes to the Pro vs 2 debate, I generally come down on the 2 side, but with the nuance that it'll actually fill the roles of both and that could influence the marketing a bit. Nintendo's past "Pro" revisions have all existed to keep things going for a couple years while waiting for the next generation hardware, while not being totally essential. Switch 2 will likely end up playing out similarly, but instead of waiting for hardware, it will be waiting for games that more fully take advantage of the new hardware, and a userbase to sell them to.
Yoshi's Crappy World and Fire Emblem: Three Houses were both slated for 2018. They both had a weird non-subtitle reveal of their 2018 release dates, though, so it's not too shocking in retrospect to see they'd be delayed, but still.
The Wii's biggest issues were the lack of major software in its last years and the fact that two other consoles from Nintendo were coming shortly later.
Yep, 2023 would be the "off year" with maybe releasing Prime 4 and starting the marketing for Switch 2
Nintendo never does 7 years for a new console its always 5-6 years for every console lifetime.
Their successful systems have all been at least 6 years, with the DS getting at least 6.5 years and the GameBoy's being like 10+ years. 5 years or less is only for their less successful systems. Never mind that Nintendo themselves want the Switch to have a longer lifespan than the usual Nintendo console, it's not inconceivable it's more in line with the DS in terms of lifespan than the GC or Wii
Conversely:
Bingo. Nintendo has never had a console selling this well at this stage in its lifecycle, and that doesn't just go for hardware. Software sales are absolutely explosive. We're in uncharted waters here folks.
I'm pretty sure Nate directly confirmed it's a Switch Pineapple.
I realize I'm just another guy not providing a direct link, but Aonuma said it publicly in the Direct itself shortly following the trailer.
I'd like to add that since Nintendo put all of its development power behind one platform, they're virtually invulnerable because their first party IP's alone can not only sustain them, but easily dictate the majority of their hardware and software sales.
Yeah, having tossed the idea around for a couple hours I don't really believe in its success anymore. Video games are a difficult space to enter, and even if Apple has a lot of gaming customers through its other products, a dedicated venture would likely still go the way of the Pippin. Consider this my retraction of the idea
Something else I hadn't considered is that they might've left their relationship with Epic Games too damaged to secure Unreal Engine for their rumored new platform.
There is only one thing left to do .... we must start a new internet message board!
The next few months to a year are going to be wild. I'm all in for this bumpy ride
