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StarTopic Nintendo Switch 2 Speculation Thread |ST| The Future is Probably a Year From Now

How confident are you that one year from now (April 2nd, 2025) you will own a Switch 2 system?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 147 59.3%

  • No because scalpers will kill my chances

    Votes: 25 10.1%

  • I hope so, but it is probably farther out

    Votes: 36 14.5%

  • Team second half 2025

    Votes: 16 6.5%

  • Josh, please stop it

    Votes: 24 9.7%
  • Total voters
    248
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Joe said:
Sorry for the ignorant question, but do we have actual evidence that a 3D Mario game is going to be a launch window game, or is it just speculation/an obvious conclusion?
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Obvious conclusion, much in the way many predicted a new 2D Mario would be this holiday's big game.

1) No new stand alone mainline 3d Mario since 2017
2) Mario movie broke a billion
3) Bowser's Fury felt like a testing ground for a more open Mario game
4) Nintendo won't have a new 3D Zelda ready for launch and Prime 4 isn't mass market

Edit: I suppose 3D Donkey Kong could be that game, but I'd bet my money on Mario.
 
Charamiwa said:
Random things I'm excited for as next gen approaches, from various studios.

The follow up to Kirby and the Forgotten Land at 60fps.
A new Animal Crossing, or a port of New Horizons, with considerably less load times.
The look and scope of the next Xenoblade game.
All the musou games having acceptable performance and look.
What Game Freak will do with a lot more power.
Mario Sports games and Mario Party not being in the same graphical ballpark as 2012.
Mercury Steam pushing their dynamic 2D style with a lot more leeway.
HD-2D games being sharper and running better.

And so much more. And this is just the little things mostly, obviously next Zelda, Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Splatoon are gonna be insane. As far as I can remember this is one of the most exciting time I've known as a Nintendo fan.
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Ditto on those New Horizons load times. I just played again yesterday after a while and those loads were painful. Like 3 loading screens just to start moving on your island and they each feel like 10+ seconds. If the next one can get you into the game with ~3 seconds loads and then have almost instant loads for going in and out of buildings, that'd be incredible

Also need to push back on that Mario Party graphics slander! I actually feel like they're some of the better looking games on the Switch, and hold up decently even compared to other consoles. If anything, I think the animations could use some improvement for next gen. All the characters seem a little stiff
 
lemonfresh said:
Imagine if monkEPD is real and instead of a launch 3d mario we get a launch 3d donkey kong
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squinters said:
Ditto on those New Horizons load times. I just played again yesterday after a while and those loads were painful. Like 3 loading screens just to start moving on your island and they each feel like 10+ seconds. If the next one can get you into the game with ~3 seconds loads and then have almost instant loads for going in and out of buildings, that'd be incredible

Also need to push back on that Mario Party graphics slander! I actually feel like they're some of the better looking games on the Switch, and hold up decently even compared to other consoles. If anything, I think the animations could use some improvement for next gen. All the characters seem a little stiff
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Wait, what the hell is this? Superstars is gorgeous and looks much better than Mario Party 10 or anything beforehand.
 
ngpdrew said:
Wait, what the hell is this? Superstars is gorgeous and looks much better than Mario Party 10 or anything beforehand.
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Haha by other consoles I meant Switch Mario Parties look nice even compared to PS5/XSX games! Sorry, that wasn't clear
 
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Hoping for a March release but I think September is more likely. I don't think they will go later than that though. Nintendo has saved all the big games for Switch 2 at this point so I don't think they will expect much from the Switch moving forward. It will probably get a price cut and sell for a good few years more but everybody is ready to move on.

Im expecting Metroid Prime 4, a new 3D Mario, Smash, Zelda Totk next gen patch and Mario Kart 9 to be the big first year games.
 
Do we know the codename already?

Also, I wonder if the Switch will have another Mario Party before the Switch 2...
 
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BassForever said:
Obvious conclusion, much in the way many predicted a new 2D Mario would be this holiday's big game.

1) No new stand alone mainline 3d Mario since 2017
2) Mario movie broke a billion
3) Bowser's Fury felt like a testing ground for a more open Mario game
4) Nintendo won't have a new 3D Zelda ready for launch and Prime 4 isn't mass market

Edit: I suppose 3D Donkey Kong could be that game, but I'd bet my money on Mario.
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Andy Robinson did hear rumblings of 3D Mario being the marquee launch title for the Switch 2, but not to the point of confidence where they can run an article on it.
 
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Josh5890 said:
Not really? We've seen a lot of Fire Emblem releases, but they have been different games.

2015 (Japan)/2016 (West)- Fates (Traditional, mainline game)
2017- Shadows of Valentia (Traditional, remake)
2018- Warriors (Muoso spin-off)
2019- Three Houses (Traditional, mainline game)
2020- Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (port of the original game, just don't go looking for it on the eshop)
2022- Warriors: Three Hopes (Muoso spin-off)
2023- Engage (Traditional, mainline game)

So we are averaging a new mainline game every four years with a couple of older games surfacing as well as the warriors game. It is almost an annual release situation, but there is decent variety there.

Predictions: We get the long rumored Genealogy sometime in 2024, or 2025 at the latest. After that, we will probably get another game as a GCN/Wii port, unless they hold off PoR and RD for full blown remakes. If not those, maybe a 3DS title gets the treatment. The next new mainline is 2027, keeping with the current pattern. FE: Warriors gets a break since I don't see Engage being worthy of a spin-off.
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Also a whole bunch of DLC for their games in between all of this (and also Fire Emblem Heroes). I'd say Fire Emblem is pretty much a yearly franchise, just in different shapes and forms.

Intelligent system and it's partners developing Fire Emblem has really been the most prolific developers over the last decade for Nintendo.
 
YolkFolk said:
Recently you were saying October. It just changes as time passes.

When we're in November you'll change it to December/January.
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I didn’t have the date of the next shareholder meeting. Now that we know it’s November 7th, November is more realistic :)
 
Mbolibombo said:
Also a whole bunch of DLC for their games in between all of this (and also Fire Emblem Heroes). I'd say Fire Emblem is pretty much a yearly franchise, just in different shapes and forms.

Intelligent system and it's partners developing Fire Emblem has really been the most prolific developers over the last decade for Nintendo.
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Nintendo is algo pushing to make Metroid a (FY) yearly IP

2021/22: Dread
2022/23: Prime 1 Remaster
2023/24: Prime 2/3 Remaster
2024/25: Prime 4
2025/26: Metroid 6

And nobody is complaining…
 
One thing I'm looking forward to; no longer playing with mismatched joycons. My right joycon is the neon green Splatoon 2 joycon, and the left one is one of those HORI split pad compact joycons. Give me a new console with a fresh set of joycons!
 
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The reason a 3D Donkey Kong game is taking so long is because they’re having a hard time motion tracking all the gorillas and apes.




*This is not true
 
Meelow said:
Final Fantasy wouldn't feel like a wtf moment (well it definitely would have pre Switch days), I think it will be Cyberpunk 2077.
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I just don't think Nintendo would want to give a game like Cyberpunk that kind of spotlight given its history with performance issues on lower-end hardware, and the uncertainty regarding the port quality that would come with it. Even if that isn't a concern for them, I doubt they'd show off a game with nudity and ultra violence in the Switch 2's reveal trailer. Skyrim is an M rated violent game, but compared to Cyberpunk it may as well be rated E10+.

I also don't agree with the idea that Final Fantasy isn't a "wtf" moment. It would be a "wtf" moment at any show, be it Xbox, Nintendo, some PC centric show, and whatever else. Seeing an IP that has had it's mainline titles deemed "exclusive" show up in the Switch 2 reveal would certainly cause people to lose their minds, especially Nintendo only gamers that haven't had the chance to play any of the newer FF games.
 
LoneRanger said:
Nintendo is algo pushing to make Metroid a (FY) yearly IP

2021/22: Dread
2022/23: Prime 1 Remaster
2023/24: Prime 2/3 Remaster
2024/25: Prime 4
2025/26: Metroid 6

And nobody is complaining…
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If anything people could complain Metroid Prime is taking away from a new DK game from Retro. But no one should be complaining anyways.
 
P4bl0 said:
Y’all need to remember we getting a smooth transition, they won’t pull the big Mario guns at launch while the Switch is still alive and getting Mario games. They will slowly phase out the Switch 1 but this will take at least a year like they previously communicated
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I don’t share the same confidence as others about 3D Super Mario being a launch title, BUT I fully expect the successor to have their best-selling/most popular IPs and other notable releases, which aren’t possible on the current hardware. “Smooth transition” has more to do with ensuring there is prolific software momentum as a driver of hardware. There will be security updates and support for the next few years on the Switch, but a lengthy cross-gen spell isn’t likely beyond the occasional re-release/ports. The Switch’s lifecycle has showed that they can shift 15m-20m units per year, and over 20m or even 30m for a good part of that. So, I suspect they’ll want people to adopt new systems rather quickly, and create the conditions necessary to make that happen. I believe they’ll aim high, and try to outsell both PS/XBox domestically within the first year of release. Perhaps go further and sell 20m+ units a year worldwide from the start, or even reach 100m units in record time. If they can do it, that, too, becomes attractive to developers. A lot is made of the existing userbase, and while important, moving as much of them on to the next one as possible while adding more is critical. Holding on too long to the existing userbase on nearly 7-year old hardware can have negative consequences because it’s a failure to understand that neither people nor ambitions stand still. For the moment, it’s fine because Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, LOZ: Tears, Pikmin 4, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Bayonetta 3, and Splatoon 3 all show that the userbase is very active, but another year is risky because their partners have moved on, while exclusive content on other platforms will increase, and so, too, will their incentives.
 
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LoneRanger said:
Nintendo is algo pushing to make Metroid a (FY) yearly IP

2021/22: Dread
2022/23: Prime 1 Remaster
2023/24: Prime 2/3 Remaster
2024/25: Prime 4
2025/26: Metroid 6

And nobody is complaining…
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I hope this all comes true! When is the Other M remaster coming?
 
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Yeah, new 3D Mario feels about right for the launch marquee title, with Mario Kart 9/10 following a few months into launch. Also at launch we'll probably get Metroid Prime 4 (likely cross-gen), a small eShop title ala Snipperclips, and another Nintendo IP to fill up (probably the rumored FE4 remake). Then we'll get the mandatory titles from 3rd parties: The next Sonic and Puyo Puyo entries from SEGA, Street Fighter 6 port from Capcom, and a new 2DHD title from Square-Enix. And indies. Lots and lots of indies.

Zelda will probably a get a new top-down entry first (disappointed we didn't get one of those on Switch), but at least a year down the line. Also series like Donkkey Kong, Splatoon and Warioware will get new entries within the first year. Fire Emblem either gets the FE4 remake early on Switch 2, but if that's a Switch title, then I could see Switch 2 getting a spin-off title within its first year (Probably a Warriors game that uses the Emblem system from Engage, but I would love TMS#FE 2)
 
3D Mario is 100% a launch title.

I think Nintendo learned from BOTW's stellar success, launching your system with a prestige GOTY contender is a recipe for success. who'd thunk
 
Jave said:
Yeah, new 3D Mario feels about right for the launch marquee title, with Mario Kart 9/10 following a few months into launch. Also at launch we'll probably get Metroid Prime 4 (likely cross-gen), a small eShop title ala Snipperclips, and another Nintendo IP to fill up (probably the rumored FE4 remake). Then we'll get the mandatory titles from 3rd parties: The next Sonic and Puyo Puyo entries from SEGA, Street Fighter 6 port from Capcom, and a new 2DHD title from Square-Enix. And indies. Lots and lots of indies.

Zelda will probably a get a new top-down entry first (disappointed we didn't get one of those on Switch), but at least a year down the line. Also series like Donkkey Kong, Splatoon and Warioware will get new entries within the first year. Fire Emblem either gets the FE4 remake early on Switch 2, but if that's a Switch title, then I could see Switch 2 getting a spin-off title within its first year (Probably a Warriors game that uses the Emblem system from Engage, but I would love TMS#FE 2)
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  • The FE4 remake is apparently already done & isn’t cross-gen.
  • Splatoon 3 would’ve only recently ended support by the time the Switch 2 launches, it’ll be a while before we get another one.
 
Neoxon said:
  • The FE4 remake is apparently already done & isn’t cross-gen.
  • Splatoon 3 would’ve only recently ended support by the time the Switch 2 launches, it’ll be a while before we get another one.
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what's the source of the FE4 rumor?
 
LoneRanger said:
Nintendo is algo pushing to make Metroid a (FY) yearly IP

2021/22: Dread
2022/23: Prime 1 Remaster
2023/24: Prime 2/3 Remaster
2024/25: Prime 4
2025/26: Metroid 6

And nobody is complaining…
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The writing has been on the wall for quite some that Metroid was back on the table with both Federation Force in 15, Returns in 17
But 3 of the games you are mentioning arent even announced yet,

But not sure what this has to do with Fire Emblem and Inteligent Systens.
 
Mbolibombo said:
The writing has been on the wall for quite some that Metroid was back on the table with both Federation Force in 15, Returns in 17
But 3 of the games you are mentioning arent even announced yet,

But not sure what this has to do with Fire Emblem and Inteligent Systens.
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Metroid 6 and Prime 2/3 ports are logical and rumored to be fair
 
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gamerguy said:
It would be nice though, especially if the chasm between the fanbase that wants persona and those that want game mechanics (weapon triangle) continues


like... people get mad!... maybe do a spin-off for relationship sim so players can keep track of which is which, and alternate releases every year

that strategy would still leave two years between FE
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I think this is an oversimplification of the reaction to Engage.

I liked three houses' textured, fleshed out setting, where every character had a role in the context of the world they lived in and their own opinions about that world.

The trailer for engage looked like "everything changed when the fire nation attacked" + gratuitous fanservice cameos, so I never picked it up. It had nothing to do with Three Houses' calender mechanics, or not liking the weapon triangle.
 
VegiHam said:
I think this is an oversimplification of the reaction to Engage.

I liked three houses' textured, fleshed out setting, where every character had a role in the context of the world they lived in and their own opinions about that world.

The trailer for engage looked like "everything changed when the fire nation attacked" + gratuitous fanservice cameos, so I never picked it up. It had nothing to do with Three Houses' calender mechanics, or not liking the weapon triangle.
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Fair enough, though in my mind you just reinforced my point. I get that you don't see it that way. I still see it as story/setting vs. gameplay.

I don't even mind if the Three Houses branch is considered the main FE, and older mechanics the spinoffs. Three Houses sold like gangbusters, so I'm clearly in the minority. Just put 'Intelligent Systems' in big letters somewhere on the box so I know which is which.

The point I was trying to make is with two development houses going two directions with the franchise, you could do FE every year.
 
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Mario Kart is Nintendo's biggest franchise (and it's not even particularly close at this point).

Not sure why it's not looked upon as the lead launch candidate.

It would also have the bonus of them being able to continue NSO subscriptions and locking people in as subscribers to keep getting new Mario Kart tracks for years to come right from day 1 launch.

Metroid Prime and all this stuff ... lol. Small potatoes.
 
justanotherperson said:
Even if it would feel weird doing so, I think if Nintendo isn't going to go out of their way to add touch screen support to their games, they should invest the money that would go towards a touch screen to improvements in other areas, like better materials or an OLED screen, while retaining the $399 price.
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Aside from disagreeing with it for future purposes, that would be BAD for backwards compatibility, and AWFUL if they ever wanted to emulate DS games.
Red Monster said:
I agree. FF13 was a PS360 game, and there’s no reason that it’s not on Switch yet. Give it to us, Square! We’re getting tired of asking. 😤
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I think it sits among a class of game that would work perfectly well on Switch, but they're not going to bother doing such a thing until they're ready to make a big deal multiplatform rerelease out of it.
P4bl0 said:
That's deceiving customers that just bought a Switch in the holidays season.

You may think Nintendo don't care, but it's their brand image at the end of the day
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That's why everybody was pissed about GBASP and DS Lite, which went on to ruin Nintendo's image.
Machrider said:
Mario Kart is Nintendo's biggest franchise (and it's not even particularly close at this point).

Not sure why it's not looked upon as the lead launch candidate.
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It was for me--until Mario Kart 8 got further DLC going to the tail of this year. I don't think the next Mario Kart will take long, but there's going to be some buffer space.
 
Linkstrikesback said:
They absolutely want to replicate what happened with the switch as closely as physically possible. It's there most successful hardware ever, why would they possibly want anything else? It sure didn't hurt the switches sales in the second year.
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I’m not saying they wouldn’t want a strong first year, just that it might be better to save a few cards for year 2, instead of having a weak year 2 with a single highlight like switch 1
 
Pillydillsy said:
I’m not saying they wouldn’t want a strong first year, just that it might be better to save a few cards for year 2, instead of having a weak year 2 with a single highlight like switch 1
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Nintendo’s development pipeline is much stronger now that most studios have transitioned to HD development, and there’s gonna be a ton of major 3rd party ports and titles as well. A strong year 1 doesn’t necessarily imply a weak year 2 at this stage.
 
Pillydillsy said:
I’m not saying they wouldn’t want a strong first year, just that it might be better to save a few cards for year 2, instead of having a weak year 2 with a single highlight like switch 1
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If this thing launches in September it would mean year 1 is September to September unlike March to March for Switch. That will play a role in the game lineup too.
 
Thunder84 said:
Nintendo’s development pipeline is much stronger now that most studios have transitioned to HD development, and there’s gonna be a ton of major 3rd party ports and titles as well. A strong year 1 doesn’t necessarily imply a weak year 2 at this stage.
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Thats actually true, the next console is probably getting tons of ports to fill up the launch schedule.
 
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I need Xenoblade X sooner, not later. Seriously I’m dangerously close to replaying the Switch trilogy.
 
Dark Cloud said:
If this thing launches in September it would mean year 1 is September to September unlike March to March for Switch. That will play a role in the game lineup too.
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A September launch also means how the first half of the year is paced for Nintendo releases will be fairly different then how it'll be if the hardware launches in March-May. It probably means alongside the FE4 remake there's probably one or two more "big" Switch games launching before the successor is out that haven't been revealed yet. Big as in "gets a premium slot in the February direct/is revealed at TGAs", not Dring "10 million at launch".
 
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Raccoon said:
the album is varied but the track that opens that album is cut from the same cloth

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Man this rips, I think I liked it a good bit better than the Switch launch trailer song. My new vote for what they should use lol. I should have checked out White Denim sooner wtf
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
That's why everybody was pissed about GBASP and DS Lite, which went on to ruin Nintendo's image.
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Different era there was no social media or way for customers to express their feedback publicly, now everyone is quick to complain on social media
 
I wonder if we will have big third party games like Dragon's Dogma 2, Resident Evil 4, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy on launch day or if they will wait for a larger user base before releasing these games on Switch 2. It would be so cool if they could launch the system with MH6 for example.
 
Amadeus said:
I wonder if we will have big third party games like Dragon's Dogma 2, Resident Evil 4, Elden Ring, Final Fantasy on launch day or if they will wait for a larger user base before releasing these games on Switch 2. It would be so cool if they could launch the system with MH6 for example.
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A brand new exclusive game? Maybe. If it just a port of an already released game then I don't think that publishers are going to wait for the Switch 2 to drop 10m in sales.
 
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