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News Red Dead Redemption coming to Switch and PS4 on August 17, physical version on October 13

Literally my friends right now, adding the "why release it at this point? everybody already played it"
Common gamer mentality, "if I played it then surely everyone else has as well." It's why I never take the overall gaming community seriously anymore.
 
The monkey paws finger curls back. It is nice to have though, and still leaves room for bigger remaster/remake later, if ever.
 
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How are the GTA Trilogy ports on Switch now? Anybody play recently?
It's fine, perfectly playable. Frame drops are very rare right now, you have to be in the middle of utter chaos for it to drop. All of the glitches were ironed out. And I gotta say, games, especially San Andreas, can look pretty at times.

But these are old games and they aged terribly. No physics in driving, clunky animations, weird voice effects. Hell, San Andreas got old just a year after it launched, in 2005, when much better looking open world games were released on PS2: Scarface, Godfather, Driver Parallel Lines... None of them were at San Andreas's level of quality though. they were just lookers.
 
I'm just saying the same thing many others are, but a plain 'ol port (as opposed to a proper next-gen remaster) is some b'olscht. My silly naive ass was sitting here thinking they were gonna add new content, like a mission where John reminisces about Arthur or something. This looks barebones, but on the bright side: still good for people who wanted this on Switch.

EDIT: Ok, there's the price point too. $50... Metroid Prime Remastered came out earlier this year, and was not only $10 cheaper, but a full-on proper remaster. Dawg. Rockstar is different, that's for sure.
 
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Honestly, I loved RDR back in the day but I'm going to find playing it pretty jarring playing it while I'm still playing TOTK because of the gameplay.

I think maybe I'll play through the upcoming Arkham Trilogy first as it will probably hit better.
 
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launching the physical version 4 days before the release of Alan Wake II is utterly baffling in terms of timing.
someone at Rockstar (the original version launched the same day as the first game.) really doesn't want that series to gain any popularity.
That implies T2 acknowledges Alan Wakes existence

They don't
 
It's fine, perfectly playable. Frame drops are very rare right now, you have to be in the middle of utter chaos for it to drop. All of the glitches were ironed out. And I gotta say, games, especially San Andreas, can look pretty at times.

But these are old games and they aged terribly. No physics in driving, clunky animations, weird voice effects. Hell, San Andreas got old just a year after it launched, in 2005, when much better looking open world games were released on PS2: Scarface, Godfather, Driver Parallel Lines... None of them were at San Andreas's level of quality though. they were just lookers.
How’s the resolution nowadays?
 
I loved this game and haven't played it in 9 years or so so I may pick this up to go through it again. I'd love to see the 2nd game get ported to the next Nintendo console, I still haven't touched it.
 
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Why are people creating the narrative that they do not want RDR on Switch?
Because people were hoping for a full remake on RDR2 style, when it were 0 hints which could lead to a remake. The leak even included undead nightmare, that alone should have been enough to rule out the remake option.
 
Because people were hoping for a full remake on RDR2 style, when it were 0 hints which could lead to a remake. The leak even included undead nightmare, that alone should have been enough to rule out the remake option.
I have never played the original, so not being a remake is fine by me.

My only hope that the port is at least solid, unlike GTA Trilogy on launch day...
 
I have never played the original, so not being a remake is fine by me.

My only hope that the port is at least solid, unlike GTA Trilogy on launch day...
I played several times through the original on Xbox back in its time and I'm very happy with the port. Having the original game, one fo the greatest games of all time, in a portable platform is just amazing.

And I don't see how the port could be bad. It's not a PS2 game which would need a full overhaul. I would compare it to the L.A. Noire port and not to the trilogy. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
I played several times through the original on Xbox back in its time and I'm very happy with the port. Having the original game, one fo the greatest games of all time, in a portable platform is just amazing.

And I don't see how the port could be bad. It's not a PS2 game which would need a full overhaul. I would compare it to the L.A. Noire port and not to the trilogy. I wouldn't worry about it.
Yeah. I got LA Noire full price on Switch back when it first released. I think the port was technically rock solid and didn't suffer from the same issues as other (rushed out) ports had at the time.

Will definitely be getting this and Batman Arkham Trilogy, and using a certain promotion to get Rain Code free.
 
wut. is your argument that no third party games sell a million on switch or what.

Well, as the beginning of last year we know only 14 3rd party games on the Switch surpassed 1 million sales. (If this has been updated, please let me know)

So, of course I’m not saying NO THIRD PARTY games have.

What I’m saying is if it’s not Monster Hunter, Dragon Ball, Japanese Nintendo friendly games…or some huge casual mobile, multiplayer multiplat (Minecraft, Among us, etc)…most likely it has not hit 1 million.

And the few that have surpassed, like probably Witcher 3, it’s just barely passed 1 million


Well, we know it sold over 10m WW, and that's 1 year ago. It's had another 16 months to accumulate sales. And Dring's (admittedly incompete data - since he lacks insight into eshop and Take2 doesn't release digital like Nintendo) gives a rough ordering.

Even if you deflate the Switch version from close #2 behind PS4 release to distant 2nd or even 3rd place with digital , it's unlikely to sell less than 1 million. Actually, it's probably sitting in the 2-3 million range depending on physical to digital splits.

So you are saying the Switch platform made up 1/3rd of GTA trilogy sales?

Ok. I just find that dubious. I’d love to have confirmation of that, though. Other than Monster Hunter and Minecraft, I can’t think of any 3rd party publisher saying they sold 3million+ on the Switch.

Good thing not everything has to hit a million to be successful

Good thing not every 3rd party publisher makes huge multiplat games.

But the big publishers of big games absolutely don’t think 1 million sales or less on a platform is worth the time and effort spending resources to port to that platform. This is why big multiplats that skip Nintendo machines, skip Nintendo machines. This is exactly why.

Red Dead Redemption is often claimed to be one of the best games ever made, it's from one of the most prestigious developers in gaming history, it's the first time it's going to be on a Nintendo platform (the most successful one at that), and it's releasing in the slow period before releases start picking up again.

I understand being disappointed by this release but come on dog, it's gonna do incredibly well.

I guess agree to disagree :p

Skyrim was just as acclaimed (if not more so)…how much you think it sold on the Switch?
 
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Well, as the beginning of last year we know only 14 3rd party games on the Switch surpassed 1 million sales. (If this has been updated, please let me know)

So, of course I’m not saying NO THIRD PARTY games have.

What I’m saying is if it’s not Monster Hunter, Dragon Ball, Japanese Nintendo friendly games…or some huge casual mobile, multiplayer multiplat (Minecraft, Among us, etc)…most likely it has not hit 1 million.

And the few that have surpassed, like probably Witcher 3, it’s just barely passed 1 million




So you are saying the Switch platform made up 1/3rd of GTA trilogy sales?

Ok. I just find that dubious. I’d love to have confirmation of that, though. Other than Monster Hunter and Minecraft, I can’t think of any 3rd party publisher saying they sold 3million+ on the Switch.



Good thing not every 3rd party publisher makes huge multiplat games.

But the big publishers of big games absolutely don’t think 1 million sales or less on a platform is worth the time and effort spending resources to port to that platform. This is why big multiplats that skip Nintendo machines, skip Nintendo machines. This is exactly why.



I guess agree to disagree :p

Skyrim was just as acclaimed (if not more so)…how much you think it sold on the Switch?
In all fiscal quarters Nintendo says the number of million sellers in that period alone, there have been some quarters with 21 third party titles or more million sellers.


On the list that you go through, there are more games that have exceeded a million in sales, only they have not been listed there or official numbers have not been given.
 
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The thing is, we already had rumors of RDR1 remake getting cancelled in favor of GTA6 development. And when RDR1 got rated this year, it wasn't titled "Remaster" or anything and it only was for consoles. It was obvious that this is a simple port, much like LA Noire. Why people got hyped for a AAA remake, is beyond me.

Thinking back, one of the platforms rated was PS4, wasn't it?
 
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Well, as the beginning of last year we know only 14 3rd party games on the Switch surpassed 1 million sales. (If this has been updated, please let me know)

So, of course I’m not saying NO THIRD PARTY games have.

What I’m saying is if it’s not Monster Hunter, Dragon Ball, Japanese Nintendo friendly games…or some huge casual mobile, multiplayer multiplat (Minecraft, Among us, etc)…most likely it has not hit 1 million.

And the few that have surpassed, like probably Witcher 3, it’s just barely passed 1 million




So you are saying the Switch platform made up 1/3rd of GTA trilogy sales?

Ok. I just find that dubious. I’d love to have confirmation of that, though. Other than Monster Hunter and Minecraft, I can’t think of any 3rd party publisher saying they sold 3million+ on the Switch.



Good thing not every 3rd party publisher makes huge multiplat games.

But the big publishers of big games absolutely don’t think 1 million sales or less on a platform is worth the time and effort spending resources to port to that platform. This is why big multiplats that skip Nintendo machines, skip Nintendo machines. This is exactly why.



I guess agree to disagree :p

Skyrim was just as acclaimed (if not more so)…how much you think it sold on the Switch?
Wow, talk about the weirdest take. Like, how anybody would think a console with a 130M userbase would only have 14 3rd party million sellers in 7 years, What!? The Switch has by far the biggest 3rd party support ever with amazing discount/sales on the eshop every week or so and somehow you think 3rd party are only getting mediocre sales.
Hell, a game like Little Nightmares has probably sold way more than 1M on Switch when something like Rune Factory cleared 500k easily in a couple months. And no, Rune Factory is not more popular than Little Nightmares. LN with just 2 games is over 12M.
 
The fact that there's still talk about third parties not selling on Switch is just silly, publishers dont always shout out loud when software hits 1M units on a specific platform, heck it's very rare that they do.

We do know that there's more than 500M units of third party sold software on Switch though which is pretty telling, third party software do sell.
 
Internet: Hey this thing exists now!

The Entitled: Booooooooo.
I never got to play this back when it launched, so this is a good chance for me to get to play an all timer.

But not gonna lie, gamers do their best to hate on a cool thing every chance they get if they're not getting exactly what they want. It's getting real tiresome.
Rockstar isn't doing us a kindness, though. When it comes down to it, this is a fairly basic $50 port of a legacy title by a studio swimming in money, and R* infamously didn't exactly put out the greatest product in their prior GTA remasters. That taken into consideration, I think it's reasonable for people to be upset. It's also reasonable for people (especially newcomers) to celebrate the fact that they can play RDR1 on more recent hardware, to be clear. I get that. Both are entirely fair!

I don't think this really counts as a situation where it makes sense to go "Dang, people on the internet are just so needlessly negative", though. I mean, PC players have been asking for a port of this game since well before the Switch even existed.

This is also saying nothing of the fans who've been into RDR1 for over a decade, and were getting their hopes up to play an idealized version, rather than a simple port. I just can't help but be sympathetic, from that angle. I'd be bitter too!
 
the thing that might hamper Red Dead sales this October is how much software is releasing during the month making a 50 dollars port an harder proposition among all the other new releases though I think for a Switch only audience it might do decently :
October 3Disgaea 7: Vows of the VirtuelessPS4, PS5, Switch, PC
October 3The Lamplighters LeagueXbox Series X|S, PC
October 3Silent HopeSwitch
October 5Cricket 24PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, Switch
October 6Sword Art Online: Last RecollectionPS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 6Detective Pikachu ReturnsSwitch
October 10Forza MotorsportXbox Series X|S, PC
October 12Assassin's Creed MiragePS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 13The Lords of the FallenPS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 17Alan Wake 2PS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 17The Caligula Effect 2PS5
October 19Endless DungeonPS4, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, Switch, PC
October 19Gangs of SherwoodPS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 20Marvel's Spider-Man 2PS5
October 20Super Mario Bros. WonderSwitch
October 24Cities: Skylines 2PS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 24CrymachinaPS4, PS5, Switch, PC
October 24Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 1Switch
October 25Alone in the DarkPS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC
October 31Headbangers Rhythm RoyaleSwitch
October 31Naruto x Boruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm ConnectionsPS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, Switch, PC
 
The comparison to Metroid Prime is pretty on point. That game was $40 and had major work done to it, and it's reasonably recent. The Pikmin releases just dropped, and those are more comparable from the consumer end, and they were $30 a pop or $50 for the bundle (FWIW I think that's a bit steep but it's still 2 games for the price of a single RDR). The Etrian ports also came out, and were pretty rightfully dunked on for being extremely overpriced(single entries still lower cost than RDR), so I don't see why RDR can't also be in the dunked on pile.

I'm sure some people are gonna be disappointed for more absurd reasons, but ya know. This game can probably survive as pretty profitable at a lower price point in the 30-40 range, and that's about where I could see a retail port coming in. Maybe this port was that difficult and it cost more to make, or maybe the developers/publishers feel the work put in is worth more. Fair enough, but it's also in the power of the consumer to disagree with that and not like the price being asked. Seems to be the most common complaint about this announcement, and is the most reasonable from where I'm sitting.
 
There's a difference between people saying "who asked for this on Switch" and those disappointed with it being a seemingly barebones port. RDR is infamous for not being ported anywhere but having a boost on Xbox BC. It isn't like this existing on Switch/PS4 is stopping Rockstar from doing a full remake. Rockstar didn't even bother doing a PS5/Series version of RDR2 which sold a ton.

If this has a proper retail release and not some nonsense where more than half the game is a download, I'll grab it. I'm excited for this as it means RDR1 on Switch and RDR2 on Steam Deck for the whole RDR series being portable now. Yall need to stop looking at shitposts on other forums to get mad at some boogeyman or fanboys. I bet some resetera members probably look at this place and think "oh they're just mad it isn't on Switch" etc. There are enough stupid things and clickbait websites linked on forums everyday everyday (even on this site) that are not worth engaging with.

So instead of getting mad about people who were hoping for a remake or enhancements, be glad RDR is coming and if you are ok with $50, go for it. I'll wait on impressions and buy it if good.
 
Weird amount of backlash to this imo. I understand wanting more but I view this as a game that hasn’t been available for two gens getting a port to the coolest game machine in ages.

The overpriced argument is pretty amusing after a whole bunch of twitter drama last week around a PC Gamer review of Ratchet and Clank dinging it for being too short for a full priced release. Apparently game prices are consumer preference until enough people perceive offense to justify backlash 🤷‍♂️.

In my opinion the game is worth $50, and while I might not get it right away because I have other stuff I want to play I can easily see myself picking up the physical later this year.
 
Yall need to stop looking at shitposts on other forums to get mad at some boogeyman or fanboys. I bet some resetera members probably look at this place and think "oh they're just mad it isn't on Switch" etc. There are enough stupid things and clickbait websites linked on forums everyday everyday (even on this site) that are not worth engaging with.
It's very much "still bitter about an ex" vibes. If you dislike or have grievances with another online community, stop browsing it, talking about it, and thinking about it, please. It's even in our rules, and we've repeatedly aimed to discourage it.
 
Weird amount of backlash to this imo. I understand wanting more but I view this as a game that hasn’t been available for two gens getting a port to the coolest game machine in ages.

The overpriced argument is pretty amusing after a whole bunch of twitter drama last week around a PC Gamer review of Ratchet and Clank dinging it for being too short for a full priced release. Apparently game prices are consumer preference until enough people perceive offense to justify backlash 🤷‍♂️.

In my opinion the game is worth $50, and while I might not get it right away because I have other stuff I want to play I can easily see myself picking up the physical later this year.

I didn't even buy Ratchet because I don't think I'd enjoy it, but PC Gamer of all sites doing that is pretty funny since they give a lot of short games high scores. Probably needed the clicks and they likely succeeded.

It's very much "still bitter about an ex" vibes. If you dislike or have grievances with another online community, stop browsing it, talking about it, and thinking about it, please. It's even in our rules, and we've repeatedly aimed to discourage it.

I wasn't aware it was explicitly mentioned in the rules. I've done it in the past for sure. Thanks for linking this. I agree.
 
Any port in a storm... I've spent over $50 on a port of a 35 year old game before. Twice even. Ports to a Game and Watch no less. Plus the company that made them already had a bunch of money!
 
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So you are saying the Switch platform made up 1/3rd of GTA trilogy sales?

Ok. I just find that dubious. I’d love to have confirmation of that, though. Other than Monster Hunter and Minecraft, I can’t think of any 3rd party publisher saying they sold 3million+ on the Switch.
I gave a range of 2-3 million which would be 20 to 30% of the total, for a release that was estimated to have sold 10 million in Feb 2022,. For a top ranking SKU, which Chris Dring did confirm, it's not unreasonable and could even be conservative. The release also has had multiple 50% off sales on th eshop since then, so it's definately sold a bunch more.

I'll need to see receipts on your claim that yohb can't thinking of a third party selling 3 million on Switch. Obviously there have been, but expecting you to say this or that doesn't count.
 
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Rockstar isn't doing us a kindness, though. When it comes down to it, this is a fairly basic $50 port of a legacy title by a studio swimming in money, and R* infamously didn't exactly put out the greatest product in their prior GTA remasters. That taken into consideration, I think it's reasonable for people to be upset. It's also reasonable for people (especially newcomers) to celebrate the fact that they can play RDR1 on more recent hardware, to be clear. I get that. Both are entirely fair!

I don't think this really counts as a situation where it makes sense to go "Dang, people on the internet are just so needlessly negative", though. I mean, PC players have been asking for a port of this game since well before the Switch even existed.

This is also saying nothing of the fans who've been into RDR1 for over a decade, and were getting their hopes up to play an idealized version, rather than a simple port. I just can't help but be sympathetic, from that angle. I'd be bitter too!

Who said they were doing this out of kindness? It's a gaming megacorp we're talking about. they're not our friends. It can be a cool thing still despite this.

As for the bolded part, it most definitely is. Have you not seen what "people on the internet" are writing? It's everything from sad to beyond pathetic.
 
Who said they were doing this out of kindness? It's a gaming megacorp we're talking about. they're not our friends. It can be a cool thing still despite this.

As for the bolded part, it most definitely is. Have you not seen what "people on the internet" are writing? It's everything from sad to beyond pathetic.
When we're speaking in broad generalities, it can be difficult, if not impossible to know exactly what's being referred to. Neither of us will have a concrete enough idea of what the other is talking about.

I don't know what sort of commentary you're encountering elsewhere, but the bulk of the backlash I've read has been stuff I'd say is largely reasonable. For specificity: I don't personally believe this port is worth $50, I can understand how it in place of a proper remaster is disappointing for longtime fans, and the lack of a PC version seems like a legit bummer for people who've been requesting one since 2010. All of those things are totally fair grievances, imo.

(I don't think I need to add the caveat that absurd takes like "We should all mail dead rats to Rockstar HQ to harass 'em and show 'em how angry we are!" aren't what I'm defending, but I'm adding it just in case.)
 
I don't remember but there is article said that many big 3rd party games will be coming to the current Switch. This is the result I think
 
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Weird amount of backlash to this imo. I understand wanting more but I view this as a game that hasn’t been available for two gens getting a port to the coolest game machine in ages.
Not gonna lie- I understand the perspective of people pointing out that it's skipping PC twice now. 😂 I think that's funny and fair.
 
I might buy the cart in October but I'll replay the Xbox BC version which has been out for about 5 years now in 4k 30 fps
 
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Red Dead Redemption is one of my favorite games of all time, so having it portable is a dream come true tbh. Probably gonna wait on the physical version though.
 
Not gonna lie- I understand the perspective of people pointing out that it's skipping PC twice now. 😂 I think that's funny and fair.
Yeah, the lack of PC version is a bummer. Given the rumored spaghetti code the game is running I wouldn’t be surprised if 30fps is a hard lock and thus not sellable to PC gamers.
 
A simple remaster

It’s what Nintendo did for Twilight Princess HD on Wii U in terms of updated visuals.

Slightly better textures/shadows, and cleaner visuals with a higher resolution (though a higher resolution may give the impression of higher quality assets too). Sure, Wii U had the benefit of using the Gamepad, whereas RDR Switch gets the Undead Nightmare DLC.

And TPHD was 60 bucks if I recall, but don’t remember there being a ton of backlash except that it was a lazier conversion compared to WWHD which was more of a remaster.

As someone who has played, finished, and still owns it on PS3, playing it on Switch will feel amazing given how poorly it looked and ran compared to 360.

Port, or not, this’ll be a much improved experience compared to PS360, and it does have the added benefit of fricking gaming on the go.

Is it a full on remaster, let alone a remake? Not a chance. Though I will defend the price only slightly in that when factoring inflation, I’m paying a little less than half the price of what it would’ve originally cost in 2010, including the paid DLC (assuming $79.99US for both).

I will reserve full judgement until GameXplain, Digital Foundry, and maybe even NX Gamer post their comparison videos how each platform stacks up. Xbox Series will have the benefit with its BC, and upscaling the game to 4K, though it’ll be on parity with PS4 Pro/PS5 at that rate.

Again, personally am excited for this on Switch despite the price, but others will disagree with me.
 
It’s what Nintendo did for Twilight Princess HD on Wii U in terms of updated visuals.

Slightly better textures/shadows, and cleaner visuals with a higher resolution (though a higher resolution may give the impression of higher quality assets too). Sure, Wii U had the benefit of using the Gamepad, whereas RDR Switch gets the Undead Nightmare DLC.

And TPHD was 60 bucks if I recall, but don’t remember there being a ton of backlash except that it was a lazier conversion compared to WWHD which was more of a remaster.

As someone who has played, finished, and still owns it on PS3, playing it on Switch will feel amazing given how poorly it looked and ran compared to 360.

Port, or not, this’ll be a much improved experience compared to PS360, and it does have the added benefit of fricking gaming on the go.

Is it a full on remaster, let alone a remake? Not a chance. Though I will defend the price only slightly in that when factoring inflation, I’m paying a little less than half the price of what it would’ve originally cost in 2010, including the paid DLC (assuming $79.99US for both).

I will reserve full judgement until GameXplain, Digital Foundry, and maybe even NX Gamer post their comparison videos how each platform stacks up. Xbox Series will have the benefit with its BC, and upscaling the game to 4K, though it’ll be on parity with PS4 Pro/PS5 at that rate.

Again, personally am excited for this on Switch despite the price, but others will disagree with me.
I paid less for my 360 copy but the game is definitely worth the $50 they’re asking for, and I’m willing to pay it.
 
This release is a really big example of the bad side of leaks. If it hadn't leaked ahead of time, the backlash wouldn't be nearly as bad. Everyone got excited for a remake that was never going to happen.
 
Please avoid platform wars commentary like which fan groups deserve to miss out on x game. - PixelKnight, MondoMega, Derachi, Xghost777, VolcanicDynamo
This release is a really big example of the bad side of leaks. If it hadn't leaked ahead of time, the backlash wouldn't be nearly as bad. Everyone got excited for a remake that was never going to happen.

That, and the Glorious PC Master Race got super excited for the possibility of it coming to PC, only to get super angry at something that wasn’t even a sure thing to begin with. The assumption that PC was included is what got them.

Me being a Nintendo fan all my life, I’m used to the prospect of missing out on certain games, so it’s only fair they get to experience it once in a great while, right? 😈
 
This release is a really big example of the bad side of leaks.
If anything, it's a sign that large parts of the gaming community are too eager to jump to conclusions based on the smallest signs of anything happening, as vague as those signs may be. In other words: they fail at the basic task of using their brain every now and then, trying to think critically and being more sceptical.
This is just another example of how these people make themselves look like the fools (and probably learn nothing from it yet again).
 
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